Hi, I just want to thank you for stopping the mania. I was the first person to respond to the question "Orangemen" and tried to be non-biased and brief. I was afraid that someone might answer first in an inflamatory manner --as we know that happened immediately. After the first 5 messages I deleted all that said "Orangemen." I've had first hand experience with the Orangemen Parades and knew my opinions would spur venom -- my opinions are very neutral :-) My family lives in Derry. Thanks again, Mo CountyCavan@aol.com wrote: Okay.... Now hear me! If you can't be nice, take your toys home and leave the list alone! Here's the deal. I'm a fairly easy-going admin, but here are the rules. This list has always been civil. It will remain civil, from this point forward. If you have any problems with that, write to me individually and not on the list. It takes up too much space in the archives and no one wants to read that drivel. I'm not sure how this conversation got out of hand and I don't care. I was going to write to each person who participated in the conversation, but feel this is a better way to have all subscribers understand my commitment to a happy, successful list. Suffice it to say, that I will not tolerate any more unkindness, irresponsible behavior, OR rude comments to, about or from subscribers on this list. If you can't be nice, you won't be on this list. Period. This list is for discussion of genealogy, history, language, culture, family, etc. If you can't discuss these things in a genuinely pleasant and amicable manner, I will take steps to remove you. That's the benefit of being the list admin. I don't drop the ax often, but it is severe when it happens. So, this conversation is done, complete, zip, over. The next person to say one more thing in a negative tone or continue this discussion on the list in any way, shape or form, will be placed on the reject list! Period. Got a complaint, comment, wish, hope or dream, write me off the list. But if it can't be resolved amicably, you then become history on this list. Got it? Amen. Over and out! Denise A. Wells Vice-President, Florida Chapter Association of Professional Genealogists Member of International Society of Family History Writers & Editors Member of International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists List-Owner, IRL-Cavan-L, and many others cc for Arapahoe County and Denver County Colorado GenWeb USGenWeb cc for Cos. Cavan, Clare & Longford IrelandGenWeb Project coordinator www.irelandgenweb.com/ Former Education Director, Genealogical Society of Marion County, IN ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== For the IRL-CAVAN-L archives, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/IRL-CAVAN Maureen Fitzpatrick Cleveland Film Society Phone: 914-712-0414 Fax: 914-712-0415 email: maureen_fitzpatrick@yahoo.com

> CountyCavan@aol.com wrote: > Okay.... Now hear me! If you can't be nice, take your toys home and leave > the list alone! Hi List Admin Thank you for this direction. ********** My Cavan People are/were SEAMANs. I have two pages from a family bible. Thought you might be interested. First Page Seaman Family Bible In 1690 seven SEAMAN brothers came from England to Ireland with Wm Prince of Orange as his bodyguards. Two remained in Ireland. The others returning to England. John SEAMAN was a police officer in Ireland. When he was 22 years of age he went to Derry to put in an apprenticship as a clerk, He was allowed to join the Apprentice Boys Club as he had relations in the seige of Derry. The Apprentice Boys held the gates the time of the seige and the club was formed to commemorate that event and you could not join unless you had relations in the siege. William SEAMAN born 1827 still living John SEAMAN " 1796 William SEAMAN " 1760 Sam C SEAMAN " ******************* next page of SEAMAN Family Bible Copied from William SEAMAN's Bible William SEAMAN is my name. Ireland is my nation. Cavan is my dwelling place Christ is my salvation. Catihan SEAMAN is not dead. She is just getting thinner. (in a different hand) James HICKS, his hand, pen, he will do good. Billy HICKS son unto William HICKS departed this life February the 23rd 1777 (1790. 1777) (18 (name blotted) daughter of Samuel (Samell) SEAMAN departed this life February 3 in the year of our lord 1784. Margaret SEAMAN departed this life June 5 at 2 of the clock 1785 (in a different hand) in the afternoon 1785 Sam C SEAMAN Departed this Life August the 30th 1784 HICKS Family Christian HICKS, Wife to William HICKS Departed this life Sept 12th 1769 at eleven o'clock at night James this is with my kind love to and is of ---- Richard HICKS William James HICKS his hand and pen Charles MacMullon his hand too. Last page of Bible William SEAMAN copy Char MacMULLON his hand. ****************** I don't know how the HICKS family relates to my SEAMANs though some connection is evident or why Charles MacMULLON wrote in the bible either. Possibly because they were litterate and my SEAMANs were not. Any Ideas. Any Suggestions Thanks, Malcolm CAMPBELL