In a message dated 3/17/2004 12:19:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, brerkev@yahoo.com writes: > > "...we contrast two widely different natures of the Irish people who before > Patrick were carrying the ruthless law of the sword far over sea and land, > and that very different Irish people who, after Patrick, left the conquering > sword to be eaten by rust, while they went far and wide again over sea and > land, bearing now to the nations - both neighboring and far off - the healing > balm of Christ's gentle words. All histories of all countries probably could not > disclose to the most conscientious searcher another instance of such radical > change in a whole nations character being wrought within the lifespan of one > man." > > ----Seumas MacManus, The Story of the Irish Race. all this is something as long as you asume the pre patrick people to be barbarians which they were not they where christians Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning