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    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] St Pats Day
    2. In a message dated 3/17/2004 8:37:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, shanedr@sbcglobal.net writes: > That is news to me! Pardon my ignorance but what is the source that says > most of pre-Patrick Ireland was Christian. And if so that quote from "Seumas > MacManus, The Story of the Irish Race" would mean the Catholic Faith is more > peaceful than other Christian faiths. Considering the Spanish Inquisition and > other dark periods in Catholic history I find an always completely peaceful > Catholic Faith is hard to swallow. Well there is Irish History as hard as it is to separate from fables ever hear of Ollam Folla. Who brought TeaTephi a daughter of Zedikiak to ireland to marry the Irish High king . Who then were sworn in as kings on the stone until Fergus took the Stone to Scotland. then Edward took it to England with all those king sworn in on the Stone. Ollam Folla then started the Irish laws and religous system at Tara. Shortly after Christ was Crucified, Lazarus, Mary Mother of Christ Mary magdeline ,Martha, and Joseph of Arimatea [ Palinstine Minister of Mining ,Christs uncle] went to Southern France were you will find relics of the women. The men crossed the British Channel and went to Glastonbury where according to legend Christ came with his uncle for mining tin contracts for Palestine. It was in Glastonbury Joseph and Lazarus being enemies of rome were embraced by the Druids and they converted. The enemy ofmy enemy is my friend. The first above ground church after Christ was the British Church. The first Church Councils sat the churchs by senority. Britian was first. Then came Caradoc son of Bran a Selerian King from Britian who was captured by the Romans by treachery . When he got to Rome they allowed him to address the Roman senate because of his military genius he was the only king allowed to live in Rome. They changed his name to Caractatus when he live with his wife Pricilla in Rome. He received part of British Taxes to live on. If you read Romans it was in the house of Pricilla that the Roman Church started. Yeah that Pricilla because the couple were Christian. Their decendents Gladys, then Claudia who was the mother of Constantine thus the Christainizing of Rome. As you might expect this could possibly be a dangerous notion to a chruch that claimed supremacy. Thus it was supressed. The protestents didnt find it any more appealing. S o thus you know nothing about it. Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning

    03/17/2004 06:09:02
    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] St Pats Day
    2. donal
    3. I think you neglected to mention Snow White, who as a precursor to St. Bridgid. Snow White, her given name has been lost through the ages, was so called because of her sanctity and purity. The name identified her with her mission to rid the Isle of its association with the black arts, signified by the ugly wicked queen, who is always portrayed wearing black. Because the Celtic Church was presided over by both Druids and Druidesses Snow White was easily accepted. Just as was to reoccur in Penal times Catholicism was a proscribed faith and proponents had to travel in various disguises. It is no surprise to those who have studied the history of the faith in Ireland that the 7 dwarfs (vertically challenged gentlemen) didn't spent all their time mining. They moonlighted as priests. The wicked witch who was jealous of Snow White and her success in her quest to christianise Ireland was determined to frustrate her crusade. Just as Christ was tempted in the desert, so too was Snow White. The poisoned apple is very symbolic, remember the garden of Eden. Snow White wrestled with the temptation, but did not succumb. The apples effects were transitory and did not immobilise her permanently. Now here is the Glastonbury link. The prince who woke Snow White from her sleep was none other than Caradoc son of Bran a Selerian King from Britain, who supported Snow White in her endeavours and gave her the renewed vigour she needed to continue her mission. His kiss is significant being as it is the antithesis of the Judas kiss in the garden of Gethsemane. > Well there is Irish History as hard as it is to separate from fables ever > hear of Ollam Folla. Who brought TeaTephi a daughter of Zedikiak to ireland to > marry the Irish High king . Who then were sworn in as kings on the stone until > Fergus took the Stone to Scotland. then Edward took it to England with all > those king > sworn in on the Stone. > Ollam Folla then started the Irish laws and religous system at Tara. > Shortly after Christ was Crucified, Lazarus, Mary Mother of Christ Mary > magdeline ,Martha, and Joseph of Arimatea [ Palinstine Minister of Mining > ,Christs uncle] went to Southern France were you will find relics of the women. > The men crossed the British Channel and went to Glastonbury where according > to legend Christ came with his uncle for mining tin contracts for Palestine. It > was in Glastonbury Joseph and Lazarus being enemies of rome were embraced > by the Druids and they converted. The enemy ofmy enemy is my friend. The first > above ground church after Christ was the British Church. The first Church > Councils sat the churchs by senority. Britian was first. > Then came Caradoc son of Bran a Selerian King from Britian who was captured > by the Romans by treachery . When he got to Rome they allowed him to address > the Roman senate because of his military genius he was the only king allowed > to live in Rome. They changed his name to Caractatus when he live with his wife > Pricilla in Rome. He received part of British Taxes to live on. > If you read Romans it was in the house of Pricilla that the Roman Church > started. Yeah that Pricilla because the couple were Christian. > Their decendents Gladys, then Claudia who was the mother of Constantine > thus the Christainizing of Rome. > As you might expect this could possibly be a dangerous notion to a chruch > that claimed supremacy. Thus it was supressed. The protestents didnt find it any > more appealing. S o thus you know nothing about it. > > Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinnin g- > carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mch ug > h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop ,M > a.-sprague- and ever growing list > Jim Denning > > > > > ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list click on > mailto:IRL-CAVAN-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or > mailto:IRL-CAVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) > > > >

    03/17/2004 12:17:59