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    1. [IRL-CAVAN] searching for PLANT & BELL
    2. James Crighton
    3. Query to anyone who can help.........did the Church of Ireland ministers have to submit returns to local Bishops, (like in England with the Church of England and Bishops Transcripts)? My reason for asking - my ancestors came from Virginia, County Cavan, and a cousin has been to the church there and told that the earlier church there was burnt in 1829 and Parish records were lost. My gggrandfather's brother's christening in the current register is the first, and that was in 1831 [Name - John Plant]. I am stuck there and unable to go back further.... His father is supposed to be Samuel Plant and mother possibly Jane or Sarah Bell (I say possible as on the shipping passsenger list I have it says he could read and write, he and his brother James arrived in Moreton Bay in 1856, but John lists his mother's name as Sarah then on his marriage license he says his mother is Jane Bell?????? figure it out.......I can't. I can't find any reference to a death for Sarah or Jane Plant/Bell in the parish records for Virginia or in the Irish Vital Records. Her husband arrived in Moreton Bay in 1863. It's strange he he should come to Queensland to be with his children yet leave his wife in Ireland.....any suggestions? Jim in Queensland

    12/29/2008 12:35:58
    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] searching for PLANT & BELL
    2. otterkey
    3. Jim, In the "Griffith's Valuation" for Co. Cavan c. 1856/57, there are four listings for the surname PLANT and they are all in the same area. They are all for the name William PLANT. The most likely home for the family was in the townland of Cornaslieve, Parish of Lurgan. It was on that townland that William held over 53 acres which included a house. He also had several other meadows and fields in the area, including in the townland of Lisgrea, Lurgan Parish. All these places are very near the town of Virginia, Co. Cavan.

    12/29/2008 02:42:02
    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] searching for PLANT & BELL
    2. James Crighton
    3. Thank you to the Listers who have replied to my request and supplied additional information. It seems WILLIAM PLANT was a younger brother of Samuel (born abt 1807) who married Henrietta Hill and went on to 15 children between them (poor girl! ). I am imagining he may have bought out or taken over management of the farm his father had in Cornaslieve, but I know that can be dangerous. Rumours abound within our family that they boys used to cross the sea to England to stay with relatives and assist with harvests, but I cannot prove any of that or make a connection with any of the English PLANTS. Samuel and William were brothers with another five childlren as siblings, Martha (b 1803) Jane (b1805) Elizabeth, Mary (b.abt 1809), and Susan (b. abt 1811) Their parents are shown to be Samuel Plant and Mary Dignan. 2008/12/30 otterkey <otterkey@msn.com> > Jim, > > In the "Griffith's Valuation" for Co. Cavan c. 1856/57, there are four > listings for the surname PLANT and they are all in the same area. They are > all for the name William PLANT. The most likely home for the family was in > the townland of Cornaslieve, Parish of Lurgan. It was on that townland that > William held over 53 acres which included a house. He also had several > other meadows and fields in the area, including in the townland of Lisgrea, > Lurgan Parish. All these places are very near the town of Virginia, Co. > Cavan. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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