Hi Pat, For certs, you would go to the GRO. This link on the Proni website explains what records they do NOT have -> http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/research_and_records_held/records_not_held_in_ proni.htm My understanding of PRONI, and others may explain it differently, is similar to a role of the National Library and National Archives in Dublin. They do have microfilmed copies of many records of public interest, including parish records from various denominations. The official record keeper for birth-marriage-death, however, is the GRO (or GRONI). Hope that helps a little. John -----Original Message----- From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Jackson Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:18 PM To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] The elusive Owen Kelly [again] Hello again, firstly thanks to all replies. I must confess however I am a little confused - should I try for certs at PRONI or GRO ? Regards A bit confused pj ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.1/2211 - Release Date: 07/03/09 05:53:00