Hi John and Maureen, many thanks for your kind replies, to be honest I do not know if she did have a middle name. If she did she never used it. I have her marriage and death cert but they just have her first and last name on them. I have even wondered if she could have been born at sea and registered on arrival in England but no luck. Her birth is also proving to be extremely difficult to find. Maureen - Owen her father ended up in England with his family. I have tried three times for her cert. I was told at one time Cavan was in Northern Ireland until 1920 when it became part of the Republuic of Ireland. Perhaps we should have Irish ancestors with very unusual names, that way we might find them easier to locate. Kind regards pj

To all, My apologies for any confusion. I had sent Pat a note off list regarding her grandmothers middle name. At brsgeneology.com there is a baptism in Annagh (RC) in1882 for a Mary Josephine Kelly. Pat, Cavan was and is in Ulster Province along with the 6 counties of NI and Donegal and Monaghan of the Republic. Prior to 1922 time frame, there was only Ireland. After the Irish Free State was established, Northern Ireland became a more formal entity. The civil records for Cavan would be found in the Republic's General Register's Office (GRO), though. The counterpart in Northern Ireland would be GRONI - General Register's Office of Northern Ireland. (PRONI stands for Public Records of NI). Given all of your time frames, if the records exists, meaning if the event was actually registered in Ireland, the records should be available through the GRO in Dublin/Roscommon. Your right about the unusual names... Kelly does not make your challenge a simple one. John On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Patricia Jackson < patricia.jackson60@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi John and Maureen, many thanks for your kind replies, to be honest I do > not know if she did have a middle name. If she did she never used it. I have > her marriage and death cert but they just have her first and last name on > them. I have even wondered if she could have been born at sea and registered > on arrival in England but no luck. Her birth is also proving to be extremely > difficult to find. Maureen - Owen her father ended up in England with his > family. I have tried three times for her cert. I was told at one time Cavan > was in Northern Ireland until 1920 when it became part of the Republuic of > Ireland. Perhaps we should have Irish ancestors with very unusual names, > that way we might find them easier to locate. > Kind regards > pj > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >