Here’s my puzzle which I hope some of you might have ideas on. My GGrandfather John Caffrey married Ann Sheridan in the Arva RC Church in 1891. I found that information at the IFHF site. Unfortunately, the abstract did not include parent’s names, and so Ann Sheridan is a bit of a dead end for me. When I last visited Cavan in 2006, I found the April 1863 baptism record for my GGrandfather John in the register at St. Michael’s in Potahee. This date is of course before civil registration, but I have a pretty good handle on my Caffrey’s. (The family farm was in Garrymore.) When I visited the Registrar’s office in Dublin, I was unsuccessful in finding a civil marriage record for John and Ann. I’ve worked with the Cavan office, which was very helpful, but also unable to find a civil marriage registration. They also checked in Counties Leitrim and Longford. John Caffrey became a baker, and the family seemed to move around. They had a daughter born in Arva, my grandfather born in Bawnboy, the next son born in Crossdoney, and the youngest 2 in Granard, Co Longford. John and Ann eventually settled in Ballinamore, Co Leitrim, and are buried now in Potahee. I have a copy of their death records, but of course, parents are not listed. The marriage witnesses were Bernard Whitney and Mary Drumm. I’m not sure how/if that can help me at all. The sponsors at the daughter’s birth were Bernard Whitney and Mary Leonard. From the civil birth record, present at birth was Mary Sheridan, but no relationship given. Again not sure what to do with that info. None of the sponsors for the other baptisms were a Sheridan (although I have not seen my Grandfather’s record yet). Whitney was not a very common name, and I did find a Bernard Whitney immigrating to the US, but I was not able to identify any connections here with that individual. Since John was a baker, I presumed that he may have worked in Arva town, and that perhaps Ann is from there, but that's pure speculation. Any thoughts? Thanks. John
Barb in N of NYC The LDS site familysearch shows that Shercock has filmed Baps and marriages for Shercock 1835 to 1849 and 1868 to 1880. Film 926133 item 2. This is probably all that there is. Ask the Record office if there are any more? HTH Lyn Brown in Griffith On 04/06/2009, at 5:34 AM, MizScarlettNY@aol.com wrote: > Seeking census for surnames CLARKE & FARLEY > LocationL Shercock [near and around Baileborough] > circa 1850 which was start of Andrew, James, & Patrick CLARKE > immig>NYC > (at least 3 daughers, including Annie b 1838-40 ) > > Also seeking Roman Catholic MARRIAGE: > circa 1829 of parents: Andrew CLARKE & Margaret FARLEY > > I went there, I saw there, but I did not conquer! > > All suggestions welcome. > Barb > N of NYC > > > > > ************** > We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ > diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. > (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/ > 355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=e > mlcntnew00000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >
I saw this on the Irish in Philadelphia list, and wanted to send the Cavan info onward to this list, in case it may be of interest to anyone here.. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Christina Finn Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> Date: Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:10 PM Subject: [IRISH-IN-PHILADELPHIA] NEW in IGP Archives for May The following are both large and small files added to the IGP Archives this month. To view any of interest go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on the county and then subject heading. If your county is not listed, please consider contributing. ~Christina ============================================ CAVAN --Church Assorted Arva Church Records Assorted Derrylane Church Marriages --Vital Records Bernard DONOHOE - 1876 - Birth
Seeking census for surnames CLARKE & FARLEY LocationL Shercock [near and around Baileborough] circa 1850 which was start of Andrew, James, & Patrick CLARKE immig>NYC (at least 3 daughers, including Annie b 1838-40 ) Also seeking Roman Catholic MARRIAGE: circa 1829 of parents: Andrew CLARKE & Margaret FARLEY I went there, I saw there, but I did not conquer! All suggestions welcome. Barb N of NYC ************** We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=e mlcntnew00000007)
Hi EPPI are the initials of the following site Enhanced Parlimentary Papers on Ireland 1801 -1922 (British parliamentary papers-digitised) The web site address is http://www.eppi.ac.uk/eppi/digbib/about Rosaleen > From: irl-cavan-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 55 > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:00:42 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: need some help please (Susan Daily) > 2. Re: Norton/Naughton Dilemma (Susan Daily) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:46:06 -0500 > From: Susan Daily <cullivans@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] need some help please > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <d1ea6c980905311746u70ea807evf55b6201fbb4d96e@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Karen, just wanted to note that 1981 was a typo; should have read > 1891 (CENSUS OF IRELAND FOR THE YEAR 1981). > > I used the internet archive to try to learn about eppi, but was > unsuccessful! > http://www.archive.org/web/web.php > > But using Google, eppi probably stands for "The Evidence for Policy and > Practice Information". This is probably its current URL: > http://eppi.ioe.ac.uk/cms/ > > (I am finally reading 800 genealogy emails going back to March!) > Susan > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Karen <KarenHart@maine.rr.com> wrote: > > > I have a page titled CENSUS OF IRELAND FOR THE YEAR 1981. [PROVINCE OF > > ULSTER. It has 1028 in the upper left corner. > > > > The subtitle is "Antrim occupies pp. 1-168; Armagh, 169-250; Cavan, > > 251-346; Donegal, 347-466; Dosey?/Dorey?/Doney?, 467-578 > > > > The Column Headings are four sets of these three headings in each set: > > > > Index Number to Electoral Divisions. > > Townlands and Towns. > > Page. > > > > And one of the entries is: > > Index Number to Electoral Divisions 524 > > Townlands and Towns Clontyduffy (Hart) > > Page 274 > > > > I need help please as I try to understand this. Here are my questions: > > > > 1. What is the meaning of the name Hart in parentheses? > > There only one other on the page in parentheses. It is immediately > > after the Clontyduffy (Hart) entry and it is: > > Index Number to Electoral Divisions 524 > > Townlands and Towns Clontyduffy (Nugent) > > Page 274 > > > > Does this possibly mean that there were two families in the town of > > Clontyduffy, one Hart and one Nugent? > > > > 2. What is the purpose of this list? It appears to say that on page 274 > > of (something) I can find out (something) about Clontyduffy (Hart). > > That is confusing to me. Does anyone else know how to translate that? > > > > At the bottom there is an address that apparently indicates that this came > > from a website. It is > > > > http://www.eppi.ac.uk/ImageRep02/eppi/derived/jpeg1200//1880_1899/00363380%23vol_1892-1892_0092-0092_sv001/p0001032.jpg > > Can anyone tell me what this means? And is the information valid? > > > > There is a handwritten note on my copy which says > > http://www.eppi.ac/ulc/eppi/digbib/ssearch > > which must have been where this was found. > > Does anyone know what eppi is? > > > > 3. And does anyone know what this indicates, if anything, about the name > > Hart? > > > > 4. Is Clontyduffy a townland? Why would the name Hart be in parentheses > > there? > > What county is Clontyfduffy in? > > > > Many thanks for any help you can provide. > > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:51:17 -0500 > From: Susan Daily <cullivans@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Norton/Naughton Dilemma > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <d1ea6c980905311751n6e1b9b34l4fb9ce8f36f0634b@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Also it was probably based upon pronunciation and anglicization. Think about > the Honeymooners TV series. When Jackie says "Norton" it sounds just like > Naughton! ;-) > > Susan > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM, <DLCulhane@cs.com> wrote: > > > I suspect they were Naughton in Ireland and became Norton in the US because > > that name was more common here (just as my Lohans became Logans). IFHF > > unlikely > > to change the spellings of names. > > > > Diane > > > > > > . > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 55 > **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/windows/windowslive/products/social-network-connector.aspx
Also it was probably based upon pronunciation and anglicization. Think about the Honeymooners TV series. When Jackie says "Norton" it sounds just like Naughton! ;-) Susan On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM, <DLCulhane@cs.com> wrote: > I suspect they were Naughton in Ireland and became Norton in the US because > that name was more common here (just as my Lohans became Logans). IFHF > unlikely > to change the spellings of names. > > Diane > > .
Karen, just wanted to note that 1981 was a typo; should have read 1891 (CENSUS OF IRELAND FOR THE YEAR 1981). I used the internet archive to try to learn about eppi, but was unsuccessful! http://www.archive.org/web/web.php But using Google, eppi probably stands for "The Evidence for Policy and Practice Information". This is probably its current URL: http://eppi.ioe.ac.uk/cms/ (I am finally reading 800 genealogy emails going back to March!) Susan On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Karen <KarenHart@maine.rr.com> wrote: > I have a page titled CENSUS OF IRELAND FOR THE YEAR 1981. [PROVINCE OF > ULSTER. It has 1028 in the upper left corner. > > The subtitle is "Antrim occupies pp. 1-168; Armagh, 169-250; Cavan, > 251-346; Donegal, 347-466; Dosey?/Dorey?/Doney?, 467-578 > > The Column Headings are four sets of these three headings in each set: > > Index Number to Electoral Divisions. > Townlands and Towns. > Page. > > And one of the entries is: > Index Number to Electoral Divisions 524 > Townlands and Towns Clontyduffy (Hart) > Page 274 > > I need help please as I try to understand this. Here are my questions: > > 1. What is the meaning of the name Hart in parentheses? > There only one other on the page in parentheses. It is immediately > after the Clontyduffy (Hart) entry and it is: > Index Number to Electoral Divisions 524 > Townlands and Towns Clontyduffy (Nugent) > Page 274 > > Does this possibly mean that there were two families in the town of > Clontyduffy, one Hart and one Nugent? > > 2. What is the purpose of this list? It appears to say that on page 274 > of (something) I can find out (something) about Clontyduffy (Hart). > That is confusing to me. Does anyone else know how to translate that? > > At the bottom there is an address that apparently indicates that this came > from a website. It is > > http://www.eppi.ac.uk/ImageRep02/eppi/derived/jpeg1200//1880_1899/00363380%23vol_1892-1892_0092-0092_sv001/p0001032.jpg > Can anyone tell me what this means? And is the information valid? > > There is a handwritten note on my copy which says > http://www.eppi.ac/ulc/eppi/digbib/ssearch > which must have been where this was found. > Does anyone know what eppi is? > > 3. And does anyone know what this indicates, if anything, about the name > Hart? > > 4. Is Clontyduffy a townland? Why would the name Hart be in parentheses > there? > What county is Clontyfduffy in? > > Many thanks for any help you can provide. > Karen > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
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Barbara, Take a look at LDS Film 0950827. It covers the 4th Battalion, Irish Fusiliers, Royal, formerly Cavan Militia Enrolment Books from 1841-1891 See also http://www.sierratel.com/colinf/genuki/cav/#Military Cheers, Colin Ferguson
I am hoping that someone on the List may be able to help me, or better still have some connection to my Scott Family. Alexander and Ellen Scott had six children - James (1814), Francis (1816), Frances Eleanor (1817), Elizabeth (1822), Catherine (1823) and Arthur (1826). I have the family from the 1841 Census living at Drumkilrooske and from that know that Alexander and Ellen were born in Co. Cavan and were married about 1811. I lack further information on the births of Alexander and Ellen, their marriage, and their deaths/burial place. I do have a lot for the families of James, Francis and Arthur (my direct line), but can not find what happened to the three daughters. Also I have not found the baptisms for any of the six children (all born Co. Cavan according to 1841 Census) Any help or information would be very much appreciated. Joyce (nee Scott).
Re carrickmacross The Newspapers that cover news for Carrickmacross are the Northern Standard and the Dundalk Democrat RS > From: irl-cavan-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 50 > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 01:00:36 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 (Rosaleen Scanlon) > 2. Re: Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > (Sharon Oddie Brown) > 3. Re: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 (narelle richardson) > 4. Re: Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > (narelle richardson) > 5. Carrickmacross & SCANLON (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:40:06 +0100 > From: Rosaleen Scanlon <killarguekennels@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > To: Cavan Mailing List <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU138-W167143D8666F97F13ED2ECDD530@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > Hi > > > > Re Mr R. Jackson RIC Mahcross Tce Carrickmacross > > It is possible that Mr R Jackson was a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary Police(RIC) > > If this is the case then a sercive record can be obtained. If you have a subscription to ancestry ,the ROyal Irish Constabulary index is available. I have searched the index and found a WM R Jackson born in Co.Cavan who enlisted in 1878 aged 19 > > There are 30 other men with the surname Jackson from Cavan who were nembers of the RIC > Mr Jim Herlihy in Cork Ireland has written 5 books on the RIC . He may be able to help > > j_herlihy@esatclear.ie > > > > > > > > From: irl-cavan-request@rootsweb.com > > Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 01:00:38 -0600 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby (narelle richardson) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:23:08 +1000 > > From: narelle richardson <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > > To: IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > <4e8d06fb0905262223n2cdb948m32c01f9e31b6f87f@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after almost > > 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this family. > > > > Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 (b1867) > > emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left > > the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs > > Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. > > > > Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later moving > > to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. > > > > Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all her > > life. > > > > >From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in Glencorran > > County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima > > FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. > > > > The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there > > were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane > > > > A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co > > Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest may > > have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in > > his war diary. > > > > cheers Narelle > > Sydney > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to > > IRL-CAVAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > > **************************************** > > _________________________________________________________________ > Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. > http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/windows/windowslive/default.aspx > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 07:31:12 -0700 > From: Sharon Oddie Brown <s.brown@dccnet.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <83394CE1583F4AC98C80B63A7BDB893E@SharonPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Dear Narelle, > In a month or so, I may have some bit to add to your question. I am just > home from a month in Ireland and have hundreds of bits to assemble. When I > do, I will post them to my site, but will also notify this list for the ones > pertinent to Cavan. I made JACKSON a special focus this time round - > although I ran out of time for what I wanted to run to ground. It isn't so > much that there is a brick wall blocking my next steps as that there are not > enough hours in the day. > Cheers, > Sharon Oddie Brown > Roberts Creek, BC, Canada > History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ > Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "narelle richardson" <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > To: <IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:23 PM > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > > > > Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after > > almost > > 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this > > family. > > > > Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 > > (b1867) > > emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left > > the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs > > Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. > > > > Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later > > moving > > to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. > > > > Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all > > her > > life. > > > >>From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in > >>Glencorran > > County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima > > FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. > > > > The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there > > were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane > > > > A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co > > Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest > > may > > have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in > > his war diary. > > > > cheers Narelle > > Sydney > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:45:25 +1000 > From: narelle richardson <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <4e8d06fb0905271745h54987d48t2eaf20ce466115e0@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2009/5/27 Rosaleen Scanlon <killarguekennels@hotmail.com> > > > > > Hi > > > > Re Mr R. Jackson RIC Mahcross Tce Carrickmacross > > > > It is possible that Mr R Jackson was a member of the Royal Irish > > Constabulary Police(RIC) > > > > > Thanks Rosaleen, had been concentrating on John and Jemima Jackson around > Glencorran - I hadn't really looked at R Jackson at this stage and didn't > have any idea what RIC stood for. Although the one you found on the list may > not be the R Jackson I am looking for - I think the person is a Robert > Jackson b 19 Sept 1869 who is likely to be a younger brother to the girls - > you have given me some great ideas to follow up (and he may even be a > cousin!). Maybe it will be through Robert I can find out more about his > parents! Will check out Ancestry today. > > cheers Narelle > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:03:14 +1000 > From: narelle richardson <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <4e8d06fb0905271803u2ab67176n28decc1b0682e4fd@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Sharon > > Thank you Sharon - yes I know about the insuffiency of the hours! especially > when travelling - I had a couple of wintry days in Cavan many years ago and > while not achieving a lot I do have wonderful images of the countryside and > towns near Glencorran. > > Will patiently await your postings... > > cheers Narelle > > > 2009/5/28 Sharon Oddie Brown <s.brown@dccnet.com> > > > Dear Narelle, > > In a month or so, I may have some bit to add to your question. I am just > > home from a month in Ireland and have hundreds of bits to assemble. When I > > do, I will post them to my site, but will also notify this list for the > > ones > > pertinent to Cavan. I made JACKSON a special focus this time round - > > although I ran out of time for what I wanted to run to ground. It isn't so > > much that there is a brick wall blocking my next steps as that there are > > not > > enough hours in the day. > > Cheers, > > Sharon Oddie Brown > > Roberts Creek, BC, Canada > > History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ > > Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "narelle richardson" <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > > To: <IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:23 PM > > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > > > > > > > Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after > > > almost > > > 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this > > > family. > > > > > > Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 > > > (b1867) > > > emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left > > > the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs > > > Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. > > > > > > Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later > > > moving > > > to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. > > > > > > Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all > > > her > > > life. > > > > > >>From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in > > >>Glencorran > > > County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima > > > FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. > > > > > > The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there > > > were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane > > > > > > A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co > > > Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest > > > may > > > have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in > > > his war diary. > > > > > > cheers Narelle > > > Sydney > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:02:02 EDT > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Carrickmacross & SCANLON > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Cc: killarguekennels@hotmail.com > Message-ID: <d21.513383fa.374f4a9a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Just checking my understanding: Isn't Carrickmacross [that the locals call > Carrick] > in County Monaaghan, near the County Cavan border? > > Rosaleen, I believe that one of my g-grandfather's sisters married a > SCANLON. > I haven't looked at that twig in a while, but her surname was McKENNA, and > her father was Thomas McKENNA, mother Alice MURRAY. I think she later > located to upstate NY, with her husband, or after he died. > > Barb > N of NYC > > > > > > 2009/5/27 Rosaleen Scanlon <killarguekennels@hotmail.com> > > Re Mr R. Jackson RIC Mahcross Tce Carrickmacross > > It is possible that Mr R Jackson was a member of the Royal Irish > > Constabulary Police(RIC) > > > > Thanks Rosaleen, had been concentrating on John and Jemima Jackson around > > Glencorran - I hadn't really looked at R Jackson at this stage and didn't > > have any idea what RIC stood for. Although the one you found on the list > > may > > not be the R Jackson I am looking for - I think the person is a Robert > > Jackson b 19 Sept 1869 who is likely to be a younger brother to the girls > > - > > you have given me some great ideas to follow up (and he may even be a > > cousin!). Maybe it will be through Robert I can find out more about his > > parents! Will check out Ancestry today. > > > > cheers Narelle > > > > > ************** > We found the real ?Hotel California? and the ?Seinfeld? > diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. > (http://www.whereitsat.com/?ncid=emlwenew00000004) > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 50 > **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/windows/windowslive/default.aspx
Hi Narelle Re Jackson Cavan/Monaghan You may be in luck. A Robert Jackson born in Cavan enlisted in 1894 aged 25. Film No 852089. This date corresponds to the date you have. The Clogher Historical Society may be able to help you http://www.clogherhistory.ie/home Rosaleen Scanlon > From: irl-cavan-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 50 > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 01:00:36 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 (Rosaleen Scanlon) > 2. Re: Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > (Sharon Oddie Brown) > 3. Re: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 (narelle richardson) > 4. Re: Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > (narelle richardson) > 5. Carrickmacross & SCANLON (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:40:06 +0100 > From: Rosaleen Scanlon <killarguekennels@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > To: Cavan Mailing List <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU138-W167143D8666F97F13ED2ECDD530@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > Hi > > > > Re Mr R. Jackson RIC Mahcross Tce Carrickmacross > > It is possible that Mr R Jackson was a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary Police(RIC) > > If this is the case then a sercive record can be obtained. If you have a subscription to ancestry ,the ROyal Irish Constabulary index is available. I have searched the index and found a WM R Jackson born in Co.Cavan who enlisted in 1878 aged 19 > > There are 30 other men with the surname Jackson from Cavan who were nembers of the RIC > Mr Jim Herlihy in Cork Ireland has written 5 books on the RIC . He may be able to help > > j_herlihy@esatclear.ie > > > > > > > > From: irl-cavan-request@rootsweb.com > > Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 01:00:38 -0600 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby (narelle richardson) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:23:08 +1000 > > From: narelle richardson <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > > To: IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > <4e8d06fb0905262223n2cdb948m32c01f9e31b6f87f@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after almost > > 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this family. > > > > Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 (b1867) > > emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left > > the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs > > Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. > > > > Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later moving > > to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. > > > > Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all her > > life. > > > > >From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in Glencorran > > County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima > > FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. > > > > The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there > > were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane > > > > A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co > > Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest may > > have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in > > his war diary. > > > > cheers Narelle > > Sydney > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to > > IRL-CAVAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > > **************************************** > > _________________________________________________________________ > Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. > http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/windows/windowslive/default.aspx > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 07:31:12 -0700 > From: Sharon Oddie Brown <s.brown@dccnet.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <83394CE1583F4AC98C80B63A7BDB893E@SharonPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Dear Narelle, > In a month or so, I may have some bit to add to your question. I am just > home from a month in Ireland and have hundreds of bits to assemble. When I > do, I will post them to my site, but will also notify this list for the ones > pertinent to Cavan. I made JACKSON a special focus this time round - > although I ran out of time for what I wanted to run to ground. It isn't so > much that there is a brick wall blocking my next steps as that there are not > enough hours in the day. > Cheers, > Sharon Oddie Brown > Roberts Creek, BC, Canada > History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ > Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "narelle richardson" <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > To: <IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:23 PM > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > > > > Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after > > almost > > 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this > > family. > > > > Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 > > (b1867) > > emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left > > the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs > > Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. > > > > Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later > > moving > > to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. > > > > Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all > > her > > life. > > > >>From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in > >>Glencorran > > County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima > > FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. > > > > The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there > > were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane > > > > A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co > > Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest > > may > > have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in > > his war diary. > > > > cheers Narelle > > Sydney > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:45:25 +1000 > From: narelle richardson <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <4e8d06fb0905271745h54987d48t2eaf20ce466115e0@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2009/5/27 Rosaleen Scanlon <killarguekennels@hotmail.com> > > > > > Hi > > > > Re Mr R. Jackson RIC Mahcross Tce Carrickmacross > > > > It is possible that Mr R Jackson was a member of the Royal Irish > > Constabulary Police(RIC) > > > > > Thanks Rosaleen, had been concentrating on John and Jemima Jackson around > Glencorran - I hadn't really looked at R Jackson at this stage and didn't > have any idea what RIC stood for. Although the one you found on the list may > not be the R Jackson I am looking for - I think the person is a Robert > Jackson b 19 Sept 1869 who is likely to be a younger brother to the girls - > you have given me some great ideas to follow up (and he may even be a > cousin!). Maybe it will be through Robert I can find out more about his > parents! Will check out Ancestry today. > > cheers Narelle > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:03:14 +1000 > From: narelle richardson <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <4e8d06fb0905271803u2ab67176n28decc1b0682e4fd@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Sharon > > Thank you Sharon - yes I know about the insuffiency of the hours! especially > when travelling - I had a couple of wintry days in Cavan many years ago and > while not achieving a lot I do have wonderful images of the countryside and > towns near Glencorran. > > Will patiently await your postings... > > cheers Narelle > > > 2009/5/28 Sharon Oddie Brown <s.brown@dccnet.com> > > > Dear Narelle, > > In a month or so, I may have some bit to add to your question. I am just > > home from a month in Ireland and have hundreds of bits to assemble. When I > > do, I will post them to my site, but will also notify this list for the > > ones > > pertinent to Cavan. I made JACKSON a special focus this time round - > > although I ran out of time for what I wanted to run to ground. It isn't so > > much that there is a brick wall blocking my next steps as that there are > > not > > enough hours in the day. > > Cheers, > > Sharon Oddie Brown > > Roberts Creek, BC, Canada > > History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ > > Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "narelle richardson" <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > > To: <IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:23 PM > > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > > > > > > > Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after > > > almost > > > 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this > > > family. > > > > > > Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 > > > (b1867) > > > emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left > > > the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs > > > Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. > > > > > > Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later > > > moving > > > to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. > > > > > > Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all > > > her > > > life. > > > > > >>From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in > > >>Glencorran > > > County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima > > > FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. > > > > > > The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there > > > were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane > > > > > > A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co > > > Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest > > > may > > > have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in > > > his war diary. > > > > > > cheers Narelle > > > Sydney > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:02:02 EDT > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Carrickmacross & SCANLON > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Cc: killarguekennels@hotmail.com > Message-ID: <d21.513383fa.374f4a9a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Just checking my understanding: Isn't Carrickmacross [that the locals call > Carrick] > in County Monaaghan, near the County Cavan border? > > Rosaleen, I believe that one of my g-grandfather's sisters married a > SCANLON. > I haven't looked at that twig in a while, but her surname was McKENNA, and > her father was Thomas McKENNA, mother Alice MURRAY. I think she later > located to upstate NY, with her husband, or after he died. > > Barb > N of NYC > > > > > > 2009/5/27 Rosaleen Scanlon <killarguekennels@hotmail.com> > > Re Mr R. Jackson RIC Mahcross Tce Carrickmacross > > It is possible that Mr R Jackson was a member of the Royal Irish > > Constabulary Police(RIC) > > > > Thanks Rosaleen, had been concentrating on John and Jemima Jackson around > > Glencorran - I hadn't really looked at R Jackson at this stage and didn't > > have any idea what RIC stood for. Although the one you found on the list > > may > > not be the R Jackson I am looking for - I think the person is a Robert > > Jackson b 19 Sept 1869 who is likely to be a younger brother to the girls > > - > > you have given me some great ideas to follow up (and he may even be a > > cousin!). Maybe it will be through Robert I can find out more about his > > parents! Will check out Ancestry today. > > > > cheers Narelle > > > > > ************** > We found the real ?Hotel California? and the ?Seinfeld? > diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. > (http://www.whereitsat.com/?ncid=emlwenew00000004) > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 50 > **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/windows/windowslive/default.aspx
One place that helped me find my Co Armagh ancestor was a search in the Families in British India Society (FIBIS) http://www.fibis.org/ He had retired from the Britsh army in 1819, and there he was. Im not sure about other military sources, but when in doubt I google. Have turned up a lot that way. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:58 AM, <Bunnie1903@aol.com> wrote: > > Hello, > What branch of service would a man have served in County > Cavan? My grandfather (born circa 1841) received a "pension". Would this > "pension" be a military one or was the "old age pension" in effect at > around > that time? > I have come up against that proverbial brick wall in trying > to go back further than 1841, since Cavan records do not go back very > far...at least for me. > Any help will be most appreciated. Thank you. > > Barbara > New Jersey/USA > > > ************** > Cooking Dinner For Two? Sign Up & Get Immediate > Member-Only Savings. > ( > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222652750x1201460983/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215225797%3B37274671 > %3Bq%3Fhttp:%2F%2Frecipes.cookingfor2.pillsbury.com<http://2frecipes.cookingfor2.pillsbury.com/> > %2F%3FESRC%3D934) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia
Hi Sharon Thank you Sharon - yes I know about the insuffiency of the hours! especially when travelling - I had a couple of wintry days in Cavan many years ago and while not achieving a lot I do have wonderful images of the countryside and towns near Glencorran. Will patiently await your postings... cheers Narelle 2009/5/28 Sharon Oddie Brown <s.brown@dccnet.com> > Dear Narelle, > In a month or so, I may have some bit to add to your question. I am just > home from a month in Ireland and have hundreds of bits to assemble. When I > do, I will post them to my site, but will also notify this list for the > ones > pertinent to Cavan. I made JACKSON a special focus this time round - > although I ran out of time for what I wanted to run to ground. It isn't so > much that there is a brick wall blocking my next steps as that there are > not > enough hours in the day. > Cheers, > Sharon Oddie Brown > Roberts Creek, BC, Canada > History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ > Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "narelle richardson" <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > To: <IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:23 PM > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > > > > Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after > > almost > > 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this > > family. > > > > Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 > > (b1867) > > emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left > > the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs > > Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. > > > > Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later > > moving > > to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. > > > > Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all > > her > > life. > > > >>From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in > >>Glencorran > > County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima > > FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. > > > > The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there > > were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane > > > > A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co > > Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest > > may > > have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in > > his war diary. > > > > cheers Narelle > > Sydney > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
2009/5/27 Rosaleen Scanlon <killarguekennels@hotmail.com> > > Hi > > Re Mr R. Jackson RIC Mahcross Tce Carrickmacross > > It is possible that Mr R Jackson was a member of the Royal Irish > Constabulary Police(RIC) > > Thanks Rosaleen, had been concentrating on John and Jemima Jackson around Glencorran - I hadn't really looked at R Jackson at this stage and didn't have any idea what RIC stood for. Although the one you found on the list may not be the R Jackson I am looking for - I think the person is a Robert Jackson b 19 Sept 1869 who is likely to be a younger brother to the girls - you have given me some great ideas to follow up (and he may even be a cousin!). Maybe it will be through Robert I can find out more about his parents! Will check out Ancestry today. cheers Narelle
Hello, What branch of service would a man have served in County Cavan? My grandfather (born circa 1841) received a "pension". Would this "pension" be a military one or was the "old age pension" in effect at around that time? I have come up against that proverbial brick wall in trying to go back further than 1841, since Cavan records do not go back very far...at least for me. Any help will be most appreciated. Thank you. Barbara New Jersey/USA ************** Cooking Dinner For Two? Sign Up & Get Immediate Member-Only Savings. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222652750x1201460983/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215225797%3B37274671 %3Bq%3Fhttp:%2F%2Frecipes.cookingfor2.pillsbury.com%2F%3FESRC%3D934)
Just checking my understanding: Isn't Carrickmacross [that the locals call Carrick] in County Monaaghan, near the County Cavan border? Rosaleen, I believe that one of my g-grandfather's sisters married a SCANLON. I haven't looked at that twig in a while, but her surname was McKENNA, and her father was Thomas McKENNA, mother Alice MURRAY. I think she later located to upstate NY, with her husband, or after he died. Barb N of NYC > > 2009/5/27 Rosaleen Scanlon <killarguekennels@hotmail.com> > Re Mr R. Jackson RIC Mahcross Tce Carrickmacross > It is possible that Mr R Jackson was a member of the Royal Irish > Constabulary Police(RIC) > > Thanks Rosaleen, had been concentrating on John and Jemima Jackson around > Glencorran - I hadn't really looked at R Jackson at this stage and didn't > have any idea what RIC stood for. Although the one you found on the list > may > not be the R Jackson I am looking for - I think the person is a Robert > Jackson b 19 Sept 1869 who is likely to be a younger brother to the girls > - > you have given me some great ideas to follow up (and he may even be a > cousin!). Maybe it will be through Robert I can find out more about his > parents! Will check out Ancestry today. > > cheers Narelle ************** We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/?ncid=emlwenew00000004)
Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after almost 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this family. Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 (b1867) emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later moving to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all her life. >From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in Glencorran County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest may have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in his war diary. cheers Narelle Sydney
Hi Re Mr R. Jackson RIC Mahcross Tce Carrickmacross It is possible that Mr R Jackson was a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary Police(RIC) If this is the case then a sercive record can be obtained. If you have a subscription to ancestry ,the ROyal Irish Constabulary index is available. I have searched the index and found a WM R Jackson born in Co.Cavan who enlisted in 1878 aged 19 There are 30 other men with the surname Jackson from Cavan who were nembers of the RIC Mr Jim Herlihy in Cork Ireland has written 5 books on the RIC . He may be able to help j_herlihy@esatclear.ie > From: irl-cavan-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 01:00:38 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby (narelle richardson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:23:08 +1000 > From: narelle richardson <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > To: IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <4e8d06fb0905262223n2cdb948m32c01f9e31b6f87f@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after almost > 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this family. > > Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 (b1867) > emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left > the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs > Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. > > Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later moving > to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. > > Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all her > life. > > >From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in Glencorran > County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima > FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. > > The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there > were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane > > A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co > Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest may > have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in > his war diary. > > cheers Narelle > Sydney > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 49 > **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Twice the fun—Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/windows/windowslive/default.aspx
Dear Narelle, In a month or so, I may have some bit to add to your question. I am just home from a month in Ireland and have hundreds of bits to assemble. When I do, I will post them to my site, but will also notify this list for the ones pertinent to Cavan. I made JACKSON a special focus this time round - although I ran out of time for what I wanted to run to ground. It isn't so much that there is a brick wall blocking my next steps as that there are not enough hours in the day. Cheers, Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl ----- Original Message ----- From: "narelle richardson" <narelle.richardson@gmail.com> To: <IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Jackson, Fagan/Fegan at Glencorran or nearby > Picking up on my research on this line I have rejoined the list after > almost > 10 years to see if there is a chance someone may be researching this > family. > > Hannah Jackson aged 18 (b1865) and her sister Agnes Jackson aged 16 > (b1867) > emigrated alone to Queensland in 1883 on the Duke of Buccleuch. They left > the ship in Bowen and went into employment from there; Hannah to a Mrs > Smith and Agnes to a Joseph Emmerson as general servants. > > Hannah (my g Grandmother) married Arthur LAWS in Bowen in 1887 later > moving > to Townsville and Mackay in Nth Queensland. > > Agnes married John Bailey GRANTHAM probably in Bowen where she lived all > her > life. > >>From Hannah's birth and marriage certificates I know she was born in >>Glencorran > County Cavan and that their parents were John JACKSON (farmer) and Jemima > FAGAN/FEGAN. I believe the family may have been Church of Ireland. > > The Griffith's valuations don't show any Jacksons at Glencorran but there > were Jacksons and Fagans in nearby Pollabane > > A *Mr R Jackson,* living at *RIC Mahcross Terrace, Carrickmacross, **Co > Monaghan* in 1918 may be a relative of Hannah's, as Hannah's son Ernest > may > have visited him during his time of service in WW1 - this address was in > his war diary. > > cheers Narelle > Sydney >