I have Dolan's , I do not have an Ireland location though, they were in NYC circa 1850 through 1880 +/- , when marriages took place , I am still trying to establish lineage, the subsequent or married name were Brady and Plunkett. Tom Brady -----Original Message----- From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Daily Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:43 PM To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] looking for win This person is looking for family with the last names Win and Dolan from "Owencham in Templeport" which is presumably in County Cavan. The toolbar info is part of the automatic signature that AOL adds to all of its email users' emails. You just ignore from the asterisks onward. Every AOL account has some kind of info added, like your email account adds advertizing for the antivirus program AVG. Susan On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:59 AM, tom brady <tomandmaureen@roadrunner.com>wrote: > This message is unclear ! > > Especially about downloading another toolbar ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MCGOVGEN@aol.com > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:54 AM > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] looking for win > > > Hello I am new to the list and was wondering if any one was working on > win and dolan family from Owencham in templeport.John Mcgovern > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at > your fingertips. ( > http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000 > 04) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in > this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: > 06/12/09 05:55:00 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/12/09 05:55:00

Templeport is in the Glangevlin area of Cavan > From: irl-cavan-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 63 > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:00:33 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. looking for win (MCGOVGEN@aol.com) > 2. Re: looking for win (tom brady) > 3. Re: looking for win (Susan Daily) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:54:01 EDT > From: MCGOVGEN@aol.com > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] looking for win > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c31.59e4820e.3763b7f9@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hello I am new to the list and was wondering if any one was working on win > and dolan family from Owencham in templeport.John Mcgovern > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:59:30 -0400 > From: "tom brady" <tomandmaureen@roadrunner.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] looking for win > To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <DA4D05F8C9234E9CA4FE77D8A4148DBA@Desktop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This message is unclear ! > > Especially about downloading another toolbar ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of MCGOVGEN@aol.com > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:54 AM > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] looking for win > > > Hello I am new to the list and was wondering if any one was working on win > and dolan family from Owencham in templeport.John Mcgovern > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000 > 04) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this > incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/12/09 > 05:55:00 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:43:24 -0500 > From: Susan Daily <cullivans@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] looking for win > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <d1ea6c980906121343x40e74b6eg6d073135ff5fdcc6@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > This person is looking for family with the last names Win and Dolan > from "Owencham in Templeport" which is presumably in County Cavan. > > The toolbar info is part of the automatic signature that AOL adds to all of > its email users' emails. You just ignore from the asterisks onward. Every > AOL account has some kind of info added, like your email account adds > advertizing for the antivirus program AVG. > > Susan > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:59 AM, tom brady <tomandmaureen@roadrunner.com>wrote: > > > This message is unclear ! > > > > Especially about downloading another toolbar ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of MCGOVGEN@aol.com > > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:54 AM > > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] looking for win > > > > > > Hello I am new to the list and was wondering if any one was working on win > > and dolan family from Owencham in templeport.John Mcgovern > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > > fingertips. > > ( > > http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000 > > 04) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this > > incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/12/09 > > 05:55:00 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 63 > **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Get 30 Free Emoticons for your Windows Live Messenger http://www.livemessenger-emoticons.com/funfamily/en-ie/

This person is looking for family with the last names Win and Dolan from "Owencham in Templeport" which is presumably in County Cavan. The toolbar info is part of the automatic signature that AOL adds to all of its email users' emails. You just ignore from the asterisks onward. Every AOL account has some kind of info added, like your email account adds advertizing for the antivirus program AVG. Susan On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:59 AM, tom brady <tomandmaureen@roadrunner.com>wrote: > This message is unclear ! > > Especially about downloading another toolbar ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of MCGOVGEN@aol.com > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:54 AM > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] looking for win > > > Hello I am new to the list and was wondering if any one was working on win > and dolan family from Owencham in templeport.John Mcgovern > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > ( > http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000 > 04) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this > incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/12/09 > 05:55:00 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This message is unclear ! Especially about downloading another toolbar ? -----Original Message----- From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MCGOVGEN@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:54 AM To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] looking for win Hello I am new to the list and was wondering if any one was working on win and dolan family from Owencham in templeport.John Mcgovern **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000 04) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/12/09 05:55:00

Hello I am new to the list and was wondering if any one was working on win and dolan family from Owencham in templeport.John Mcgovern **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004)

FARLEY FARREL FERRAL ARE ESSENTUALY THE SAME NAME VIA GENETICS Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Genealogy List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project In a message dated 6/10/2009 7:10:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kay-stanton@cfl.rr.com writes: HI... KAREN HART AND I TRANSCRIBED A LOT OF ARTICLES FOR THE CAVAN NEWSPAPERS AND THE NAME "FARLEY" OFTEN APPEARED. I CAN'T REMEMBER IN WHAT CONTEXT, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK. THOSE TRANSCRIPTIONS AND OTHER NEWSPAPERS ARE AT: irelandoldnews.com KAY STANTON DAYTONA BEACH, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: <O1AFARLEY@aol.com> To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Census records > Regarding surname Farley from County Cavan. My grandfather was born in > Brooklyn, NY in 1886. I found the family in the 1900 US census. It > appears > that his father was born in NY ( his parents were from Ireland) His birth > year > is 1853. If there is any connection, I'd love to hear from you. I've hit > a > blank wall trying to track them down. > Alice, NJ > > > >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Dell Deals: Don’t miss huge summer savings on popular laptops starting at $449. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221770187x1201425153/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215566131%3B37864407%3B i)

I don't know the names of my great great grandparents. His name may have been John Farley. I also know they came to the States prior to 1853. All I know is that they were from County Cavan. They settled in Brooklyn, NY. But I think about one third of the population of Brookly were named Farley. My great grandparents were John Farley and Ellen Curtis. Alice, NJ **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004)

It would be helpful if we knew the names of the people whom you seek? I am helping with Farley/Farrelly family from Closenabradden in Parish of Enniskeen, in eastern Co. Cavan. Lyn Brown in Griffith. On 10/06/2009, at 3:28 AM, O1AFARLEY@aol.com wrote: > Regarding surname Farley from County Cavan. My grandfather was born > in > Brooklyn, NY in 1886. I found the family in the 1900 US census. It > appears > that his father was born in NY ( his parents were from Ireland) His > birth year > is 1853. If there is any connection, I'd love to hear from you. > I've hit a > blank wall trying to track them down. > Alice, NJ > > > >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals > at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

And I am looking into Farley's from Killeshandra, Knockbride, and areas around Ballyjamesduff. So if there is any info anyone wants to exchange, please ask me Peter -----Original Message----- From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Brown Sent: 10 June 2009 09:19 To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Census records It would be helpful if we knew the names of the people whom you seek? I am helping with Farley/Farrelly family from Closenabradden in Parish of Enniskeen, in eastern Co. Cavan. Lyn Brown in Griffith. On 10/06/2009, at 3:28 AM, O1AFARLEY@aol.com wrote: > Regarding surname Farley from County Cavan. My grandfather was born > in > Brooklyn, NY in 1886. I found the family in the 1900 US census. It > appears > that his father was born in NY ( his parents were from Ireland) His > birth year > is 1853. If there is any connection, I'd love to hear from you. > I've hit a > blank wall trying to track them down. > Alice, NJ > > > >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals > at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000 04 > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi As the family moved around a lot ,it is possible that John was a member of the ROYAL IRISH CONSTABULARY POLICE FORCE. (RIC) The index is on Ancestry Many retired RIC constable had other jobs when they retired from the force. A search of the 1901 and 1911 census may tell you where the family were in 1901./1911The census also mentions the occupation In 1891 the bride married in her home parish. Have you considered searching the Northern Ireland records. Another possibility is that the names on the marriage certificate is not the names you remember. The Ango Celt Newspaper for Cavan is also on line at this address http://www.irishnewsarchive.com/ http://www.emeraldancestors.com/ http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/census.shtml Good Luck Rosaleen Sligo Ireland > From: irl-cavan-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 59 > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:00:41 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. One of my brick walls... (john caffrey) > 2. Re: One of my brick walls... (Lornadolinska@aol.com) > 3. Re: One of my brick walls... (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 4. Re: One of my brick walls... (John Caffrey) > 5. Re: Census records (O1AFARLEY@aol.com) > 6. Re: One of my brick walls... (JFDowd@aol.com) > 7. 1891 Marriages ? (Meg Greenwood) > 8. Re: One of my brick walls... (Melanie Egan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:10:26 -0400 > From: john caffrey <jcbeara@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <14dd76850906090810l753b33fawe7e6532aca8575fd@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Here?s my puzzle which I hope some of you might have ideas on. My > GGrandfather John Caffrey married Ann Sheridan in the Arva RC Church in > 1891. I found that information at the IFHF site. Unfortunately, the abstract > did not include parent?s names, and so Ann Sheridan is a bit of a dead end > for me. > > > > When I last visited Cavan in 2006, I found the April 1863 baptism record for > my GGrandfather John in the register at St. Michael?s in Potahee. This date > is of course before civil registration, but I have a pretty good handle on > my Caffrey?s. (The family farm was in Garrymore.) When I visited the > Registrar?s office in Dublin, I was unsuccessful in finding a civil marriage > record for John and Ann. I?ve worked with the Cavan office, which was very > helpful, but also unable to find a civil marriage registration. They also > checked in Counties Leitrim and Longford. > > > John Caffrey became a baker, and the family seemed to move around. They had > a daughter born in Arva, my grandfather born in Bawnboy, the next son born > in Crossdoney, and the youngest 2 in Granard, Co Longford. John and Ann > eventually settled in Ballinamore, Co Leitrim, and are buried now in > Potahee. I have a copy of their death records, but of course, parents are > not listed. > > > > The marriage witnesses were Bernard Whitney and Mary Drumm. I?m not sure > how/if that can help me at all. The sponsors at the daughter?s birth were > Bernard Whitney and Mary Leonard. From the civil birth record, present at > birth was Mary Sheridan, but no relationship given. Again not sure what to > do with that info. None of the sponsors for the other baptisms were a > Sheridan (although I have not seen my Grandfather?s record yet). Whitney was > not a very common name, and I did find a Bernard Whitney immigrating to the > US, but I was not able to identify any connections here with that > individual. > > > Since John was a baker, I presumed that he may have worked in Arva town, and > that perhaps Ann is from there, but that's pure speculation. > > > Any thoughts? Thanks. > > John > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:22:31 EDT > From: Lornadolinska@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c94.46a47a6c.375fd837@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Your best bet would be to contact the church direct and see what they have > in their records. My Grandparents married in 1925 and although noted in > the marraige register at St Collumcille's Church at Aughnacliffe and a > notation in the baptismal register at St Michael's Potahee there is no civil > record of the marraige at all. > > Lorna > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:14:16 EDT > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d5b.490b1088.375fe458@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Have your tried writing the priest at Sacred Heart Church in Arva? Explain > all the hoops you've jumped through and ask if he might look through the > 1891 marriage register. Include an offering for his time. > > Diane > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:50:59 -0400 > From: "John Caffrey" <jcbeara@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4a2e92f0.1ac1f10a.0f5c.2254@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Diane and Lorna, > > Thank you both. I had not contacted the church directly. (Duh-oh!!) I will > do that though. > > Thanks. > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of DLCulhane@cs.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:14 PM > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > > Have your tried writing the priest at Sacred Heart Church in Arva? Explain > all the hoops you've jumped through and ask if he might look through the > 1891 marriage register. Include an offering for his time. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.56/2162 - Release Date: 06/09/09 > 05:53:00 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:28:27 EDT > From: O1AFARLEY@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Census records > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <ca1.58faa31a.375ff5bb@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Regarding surname Farley from County Cavan. My grandfather was born in > Brooklyn, NY in 1886. I found the family in the 1900 US census. It appears > that his father was born in NY ( his parents were from Ireland) His birth year > is 1853. If there is any connection, I'd love to hear from you. I've hit a > blank wall trying to track them down. > Alice, NJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:31:06 EDT > From: JFDowd@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d29.44ad1671.375ff65a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I'd look to see if Mary Drumm married a Leonard, during the interval > between the marriage and the daughter's birth. > > The Maid of Honor and the Godmother may be the same Mary. > > ~ Jim > St. Louis, Missouri > > ============== > > > In a message dated 6/9/2009 10:11:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > jcbeara@gmail.com writes: > > The marriage witnesses were Bernard Whitney and Mary Drumm. I?m not sure > how/if that can help me at all. The sponsors at the daughter?s birth were > Bernard Whitney and Mary Leonard. From the civil birth record, present at > birth was Mary Sheridan, but no relationship given. Again not sure what to > do with that info. > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:57:33 -0500 > From: Meg Greenwood <scotquester@bartnet.net> > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] 1891 Marriages ? > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4A2E947D.7090905@bartnet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I must have deleted this one before I read it. The FHC nearby has INDEX > film [not the full registration] for 1891 Marriages if it would help > any. Someone will need to re-contact me with any details to find this > marriage. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:48:29 -0400 > From: "Melanie Egan" <megan@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <63785C3F6E57427397184340BCDF0817@DefaultPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; > reply-type=original > > John, > > I don't have any tips toward your brick wall, but I wanted to let you know > that there is an online index for old County Leitrim newspapers. If you > find a record that is of interest, you can e-mail the library and they'll > send the copy for $5. > This is the website for the library. > http://www.leitrimcoco.ie/eng/Services_A-Z/Library > > Click on Leitrim Newspaper Search on the right. Since your ancestors lived > in Leitrim during a good part of their lives, you may find mention of them. > > Melanie Egan > Orlando > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 59 > **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Get 30 Free Emoticons for your Windows Live Messenger http://www.livemessenger-emoticons.com/funfamily/en-ie/

Have you searched the church records? They're your best bet for information before Griffith's (1850s) and civil registration (1864). Diane

Thanks All for your responses! A request is now winging its way to Sacred Heart in Arva. Rosaleen, the family was in Granard in 1901 and Ballinamore in 1911. I know that John was a baker. In fact my grandfather's youngest brother left Ireland for NY after a fire in the bakery in Ballinamore in 1929. Since they were married in the church in Arva, and the first born was also born in Arva, I assumed that Ann is from there, and John was working there as a baker. Melanie, thanks for the library links. They've made great progress! I spent an afternoon at the Ballinamore library in 2006, but the index wasn't quite so electronic. And unfortunately, I didn't know about the bakery fire at the time. John -----Original Message----- From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rosaleen Scanlon Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:57 AM To: Cavan Mailing List Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 59 Hi As the family moved around a lot ,it is possible that John was a member of the ROYAL IRISH CONSTABULARY POLICE FORCE. (RIC) The index is on Ancestry Many retired RIC constable had other jobs when they retired from the force. A search of the 1901 and 1911 census may tell you where the family were in 1901./1911The census also mentions the occupation In 1891 the bride married in her home parish. Have you considered searching the Northern Ireland records. Another possibility is that the names on the marriage certificate is not the names you remember. The Ango Celt Newspaper for Cavan is also on line at this address http://www.irishnewsarchive.com/ http://www.emeraldancestors.com/ http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/census.shtml Good Luck Rosaleen Sligo Ireland > From: irl-cavan-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 59 > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:00:41 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. One of my brick walls... (john caffrey) > 2. Re: One of my brick walls... (Lornadolinska@aol.com) > 3. Re: One of my brick walls... (DLCulhane@cs.com) > 4. Re: One of my brick walls... (John Caffrey) > 5. Re: Census records (O1AFARLEY@aol.com) > 6. Re: One of my brick walls... (JFDowd@aol.com) > 7. 1891 Marriages ? (Meg Greenwood) > 8. Re: One of my brick walls... (Melanie Egan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:10:26 -0400 > From: john caffrey <jcbeara@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <14dd76850906090810l753b33fawe7e6532aca8575fd@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Here?s my puzzle which I hope some of you might have ideas on. My > GGrandfather John Caffrey married Ann Sheridan in the Arva RC Church in > 1891. I found that information at the IFHF site. Unfortunately, the abstract > did not include parent?s names, and so Ann Sheridan is a bit of a dead end > for me. > > > > When I last visited Cavan in 2006, I found the April 1863 baptism record for > my GGrandfather John in the register at St. Michael?s in Potahee. This date > is of course before civil registration, but I have a pretty good handle on > my Caffrey?s. (The family farm was in Garrymore.) When I visited the > Registrar?s office in Dublin, I was unsuccessful in finding a civil marriage > record for John and Ann. I?ve worked with the Cavan office, which was very > helpful, but also unable to find a civil marriage registration. They also > checked in Counties Leitrim and Longford. > > > John Caffrey became a baker, and the family seemed to move around. They had > a daughter born in Arva, my grandfather born in Bawnboy, the next son born > in Crossdoney, and the youngest 2 in Granard, Co Longford. John and Ann > eventually settled in Ballinamore, Co Leitrim, and are buried now in > Potahee. I have a copy of their death records, but of course, parents are > not listed. > > > > The marriage witnesses were Bernard Whitney and Mary Drumm. I?m not sure > how/if that can help me at all. The sponsors at the daughter?s birth were > Bernard Whitney and Mary Leonard. From the civil birth record, present at > birth was Mary Sheridan, but no relationship given. Again not sure what to > do with that info. None of the sponsors for the other baptisms were a > Sheridan (although I have not seen my Grandfather?s record yet). Whitney was > not a very common name, and I did find a Bernard Whitney immigrating to the > US, but I was not able to identify any connections here with that > individual. > > > Since John was a baker, I presumed that he may have worked in Arva town, and > that perhaps Ann is from there, but that's pure speculation. > > > Any thoughts? Thanks. > > John > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:22:31 EDT > From: Lornadolinska@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c94.46a47a6c.375fd837@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Your best bet would be to contact the church direct and see what they have > in their records. My Grandparents married in 1925 and although noted in > the marraige register at St Collumcille's Church at Aughnacliffe and a > notation in the baptismal register at St Michael's Potahee there is no civil > record of the marraige at all. > > Lorna > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:14:16 EDT > From: DLCulhane@cs.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d5b.490b1088.375fe458@cs.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Have your tried writing the priest at Sacred Heart Church in Arva? Explain > all the hoops you've jumped through and ask if he might look through the > 1891 marriage register. Include an offering for his time. > > Diane > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:50:59 -0400 > From: "John Caffrey" <jcbeara@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4a2e92f0.1ac1f10a.0f5c.2254@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Diane and Lorna, > > Thank you both. I had not contacted the church directly. (Duh-oh!!) I will > do that though. > > Thanks. > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of DLCulhane@cs.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:14 PM > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > > Have your tried writing the priest at Sacred Heart Church in Arva? Explain > all the hoops you've jumped through and ask if he might look through the > 1891 marriage register. Include an offering for his time. > > Diane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.56/2162 - Release Date: 06/09/09 > 05:53:00 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:28:27 EDT > From: O1AFARLEY@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Census records > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <ca1.58faa31a.375ff5bb@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Regarding surname Farley from County Cavan. My grandfather was born in > Brooklyn, NY in 1886. I found the family in the 1900 US census. It appears > that his father was born in NY ( his parents were from Ireland) His birth year > is 1853. If there is any connection, I'd love to hear from you. I've hit a > blank wall trying to track them down. > Alice, NJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000 04) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:31:06 EDT > From: JFDowd@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d29.44ad1671.375ff65a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I'd look to see if Mary Drumm married a Leonard, during the interval > between the marriage and the daughter's birth. > > The Maid of Honor and the Godmother may be the same Mary. > > ~ Jim > St. Louis, Missouri > > ============== > > > In a message dated 6/9/2009 10:11:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > jcbeara@gmail.com writes: > > The marriage witnesses were Bernard Whitney and Mary Drumm. I?m not sure > how/if that can help me at all. The sponsors at the daughter?s birth were > Bernard Whitney and Mary Leonard. From the civil birth record, present at > birth was Mary Sheridan, but no relationship given. Again not sure what to > do with that info. > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown000000 04) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:57:33 -0500 > From: Meg Greenwood <scotquester@bartnet.net> > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] 1891 Marriages ? > To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4A2E947D.7090905@bartnet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I must have deleted this one before I read it. The FHC nearby has INDEX > film [not the full registration] for 1891 Marriages if it would help > any. Someone will need to re-contact me with any details to find this > marriage. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:48:29 -0400 > From: "Melanie Egan" <megan@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... > To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <63785C3F6E57427397184340BCDF0817@DefaultPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; > reply-type=original > > John, > > I don't have any tips toward your brick wall, but I wanted to let you know > that there is an online index for old County Leitrim newspapers. If you > find a record that is of interest, you can e-mail the library and they'll > send the copy for $5. > This is the website for the library. > http://www.leitrimcoco.ie/eng/Services_A-Z/Library > > Click on Leitrim Newspaper Search on the right. Since your ancestors lived > in Leitrim during a good part of their lives, you may find mention of them. > > Melanie Egan > Orlando > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 59 > **************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Get 30 Free Emoticons for your Windows Live Messenger http://www.livemessenger-emoticons.com/funfamily/en-ie/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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HI... KAREN HART AND I TRANSCRIBED A LOT OF ARTICLES FOR THE CAVAN NEWSPAPERS AND THE NAME "FARLEY" OFTEN APPEARED. I CAN'T REMEMBER IN WHAT CONTEXT, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK. THOSE TRANSCRIPTIONS AND OTHER NEWSPAPERS ARE AT: irelandoldnews.com KAY STANTON DAYTONA BEACH, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: <O1AFARLEY@aol.com> To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Census records > Regarding surname Farley from County Cavan. My grandfather was born in > Brooklyn, NY in 1886. I found the family in the 1900 US census. It > appears > that his father was born in NY ( his parents were from Ireland) His birth > year > is 1853. If there is any connection, I'd love to hear from you. I've hit > a > blank wall trying to track them down. > Alice, NJ > > > >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your > fingertips. > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John, I don't have any tips toward your brick wall, but I wanted to let you know that there is an online index for old County Leitrim newspapers. If you find a record that is of interest, you can e-mail the library and they'll send the copy for $5. This is the website for the library. http://www.leitrimcoco.ie/eng/Services_A-Z/Library Click on Leitrim Newspaper Search on the right. Since your ancestors lived in Leitrim during a good part of their lives, you may find mention of them. Melanie Egan Orlando

I'd look to see if Mary Drumm married a Leonard, during the interval between the marriage and the daughter's birth. The Maid of Honor and the Godmother may be the same Mary. ~ Jim St. Louis, Missouri ============== In a message dated 6/9/2009 10:11:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jcbeara@gmail.com writes: The marriage witnesses were Bernard Whitney and Mary Drumm. I’m not sure how/if that can help me at all. The sponsors at the daughter’s birth were Bernard Whitney and Mary Leonard. From the civil birth record, present at birth was Mary Sheridan, but no relationship given. Again not sure what to do with that info. **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004)

Regarding surname Farley from County Cavan. My grandfather was born in Brooklyn, NY in 1886. I found the family in the 1900 US census. It appears that his father was born in NY ( his parents were from Ireland) His birth year is 1853. If there is any connection, I'd love to hear from you. I've hit a blank wall trying to track them down. Alice, NJ > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004)

Diane and Lorna, Thank you both. I had not contacted the church directly. (Duh-oh!!) I will do that though. Thanks. John -----Original Message----- From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DLCulhane@cs.com Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:14 PM To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] One of my brick walls... Have your tried writing the priest at Sacred Heart Church in Arva? Explain all the hoops you've jumped through and ask if he might look through the 1891 marriage register. Include an offering for his time. Diane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.56/2162 - Release Date: 06/09/09 05:53:00

Have your tried writing the priest at Sacred Heart Church in Arva? Explain all the hoops you've jumped through and ask if he might look through the 1891 marriage register. Include an offering for his time. Diane

I must have deleted this one before I read it. The FHC nearby has INDEX film [not the full registration] for 1891 Marriages if it would help any. Someone will need to re-contact me with any details to find this marriage. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA

Your best bet would be to contact the church direct and see what they have in their records. My Grandparents married in 1925 and although noted in the marraige register at St Collumcille's Church at Aughnacliffe and a notation in the baptismal register at St Michael's Potahee there is no civil record of the marraige at all. Lorna