Hello Listers. I would be grateful for any advice/suggestions to resolving a conundrum My gggrandfather was John McMahon, son of Philip McMahon and Elizabeth Meehan, who was christened on 12/12/1830 in the RC parish of Drumgoon. What is the best way of getting hold of further information about Philip McMahon and Elizabeth Meehan (ie age, parents, other family, occupations and especially where they lived?). Also is there anyone out there who might be researching this family? Sincerely Rob FLYNN

As you probably know, Drumgoon/Cootehill RC parish records go back only to 1829, so unless Philip and Elizabeth married in 1829 or early 1830, there's not likely to be a record of their marriage. The Griffith's index shows Philip McMahons in Cavan, but none in Drumgoon. You might check the Tithe Applotments, done in 1820s and 1830s. Diane

Dear John and Barb, Thank you for your support. I found a glimmer of hope in your emails. Back to the search! Kind Regards, Carolyn **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu slove00000001)

*Hi* ** *Try this * ** *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/* <http://www.irelandoldnews.com/> ** ** ** ** *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html*<http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html> ** ** *I separted them more........might have been too close when i first sent them.* ** *Yes the links do work. I just tried them.* ** *Hope it works for you now.* ** *Diana Nowell* I 2009/7/14 <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> > Hi Diane, from New York, USA. > I can't seem to get these links to work. > Are they correct? > Thank you. > Barb in NY > > * > *From: "Diana Nowell" <> > > > To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <IRL-MAYO@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com>; > <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com>; > <IRISH-IN-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Good Irish Genealogy Web Sites and Books > > > > Thank you for posting these links. > > Some I have never seen. > > > > I just came across a site for Irish Newspapers. > > > > *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index.html*< > http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index* > > html > > > > > > Link below takes you directly to *CAVAN* > > > > *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html*< > http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html* > > > > There are a few missing years & months but on a whole it is fantastic > > read. > > * > * > > > ************** > An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! ( > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323036x1201367247/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=JulyExcfooterNO62) >

It's always better to get a photocopy of the original rather than a transcription because transcriptions can contain errors or omissions. I got only a few transcriptions through the IFHF, stopped when I realized, for example, that causes of death had been left off death certificates. Diane

I've purchased a number of transcribed documents through the Irish Family History Foundation website. Now with the Civil Record Index available on the Family Search pilot website, I wanted to find out if it is worthwhile to purchase any duplicate records from the government office (GRO), other than that the GRO copies would be a primary source. Has anyone found errors or additional information when getting the actual document from GRO? Melanie Egan Orlando FL

I just acquired the Baptismal certificates of my CONNELL g-g grandfather [b 1836] and his four older siblings; the eldest was born in 1828. This was from County Cavan, Catholic parish of Balyna, St. Bridget's Church in Clogharinka/Clogharinkoe. In addition, their mother DORAN, and her siblings' records were there back to 1808. So, you may not want to assume you'll be disappointed. Barb N of NYC ************** Dell Studio XPS Desktop: Save up to $400 - Limited Time Offer (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222466512x1201463496/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D3)

Carolyn, I was initially ecstatic since my grgrandparents had been quite elusive(to me!). Finding the right record was exciting. Disappointment set in because I still didn't know the name of my grgrandmother's father, so I'm not sure where to look for her. All may not be lost for you yet. The document should have at least contained the name of the parish. That in all likelihood would have been the parish of the bride. You could try contacting the priest to see if there might have been more info in the register. You might also see if he can look for other potentially related records (baptisms or other marriages in the same time frame with similar name). If the parish is in the Diocese of Kilmore, you can find contact info here... http://www.kilmorediocese.ie/the-parishes. And has been pointed out to me, including a small donation to the priest is generally appreciated. Good luck, John -----Original Message----- From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CarolMay5@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:19 AM To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Thank You- Marriage Query Dear John and Diane, Thank you for your knowledge on this subject and your time. I was a little disappointed. Regards, Carolyn **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09 05:55:00

Dear John and Diane, Thank you for your knowledge on this subject and your time. I was a little disappointed. Regards, Carolyn **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003)

Hello Meg, Could you possibly do a look up for me Killan ,Catherine McFadden,born abt. 1844,parents,John McFadden and Mary Maud Carrol. Regards,Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meg Greenwood" <scotquester@bartnet.net> To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 1:17 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Birth & , Marriage info for Blackstep, Knockbride > Joanne, The FHC where I volunteer as a non-churchmember HAS film #926133 > permanently on the shelves, I ordered it over 8y ago for a Kilann birth > that was located and was readable. Here is what's listed to be in it : > > > Item 1 Parochial registers of Killesher (Fermanagh), 1855-1881 Catholic > Church. Parish of Killesher (Fermanagh) > > Item 2 Parochial registers of Killann (Cavan), 1835-1880 Catholic > Church. Parish of Killann (Cavan) > > Item 3 Parochial registers of Knockbride (Cavan), 1835-1860 Catholic > Church. Parish of Knockbride (Cavan) > The film notes for Knockbride say the film has portions that are > illegible and faded. It was filmed in 1973 from originals in Dublin. > > > Anyone can order in this film for viewing, making photocopies and doing > research.....however if you wish a simple lookup done, please send me > details and I'll check that film. Need a name, which Church registers > you need searched and an expected date. > > Will also pass along that Civil Registration began in Ireland in > 1864....any death in Ireland after 1 Jan, 1864 must by law be registered > at the parish General Register Officve [GRO]. Therefore the 1871 death > would be in the Registration books......or was this death in the US ? > Sorry, I've not read the original query. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA > ========================= > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kay I thank you and all who have helped contribute & work so hard with the "IRELANDOLDNEWS". It is fantastic & so enjoyable to read! I am serious that it is like picking up a favorite Novel. You can almost see the people & places, hear the sounds of all goings on. It puts one in closer touch with who our familys were & their every day life good or bad which ever the case is. I have cried & I have laughed at entrys. I just hope everyone who are searching for their ancesters in Ireland, take the time to read all of the newspapers! Trust me, you won't be sorry but so welled pleased. JOB WELL DONE! THANK YOU ONE and ALL!!!!!!! Diana Nowell 2009/7/8 Kay Stanton <kay-stanton@cfl.rr.com> > GOOD MORNING, DIANA... > > TO YOU AND OTHERS WHO ARE JUST DISCOVERING "IRELANDOLDNEWS" WE WHO TYPED > THE TRANSCRIPTIONS ARE PLEASED TO KNOW OUR WORK IS BEING READ AND > APPRECIATED. COLIN FERGUSON OF CALIFORNIA WAS IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT AND > THERE WERE SEVERAL OF US WHO TYPED TRANSCRIPTIONS, PRIMARILY KAREN HART AND > I. WE TRIED TO TYPE ARTICLES OF GENEALOGICAL INTEREST AS WELL AS ARTICLES > SHOWING HOW THE PEOPLE LIVED ON A DAILY BASIS. THERE ARE GAPS BECAUSE WE > ONLY HAD CERTAIN MICROFILMS AVAILABLE TO US. > > ENJOY! > > KAY STANTON > DAYTONA BEACH, FL > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Nowell" <Diana@nowell.co.uk> > To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <IRL-MAYO@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com>; < > IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com>; < > IRISH-IN-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Good Irish Genealogy Web Sites and Books > > > Thank you for posting these links. >> Some I have never seen. >> >> I just came across a site for Irish Newspapers. >> >> *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index.html*< >> http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index.html> >> >> Link below takes you directly to *CAVAN* >> >> *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html*< >> http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html> >> >> There are a few missing years & months but on a whole it is fantastic >> read. >> >> Not only have I found my own family mentioned but it takes you back in >> time >> to how life truly was for them. >> >> It is like picking up a favorite Novel. >> >> Happy researching everyone >> >> Diana Nowell >> 2009/7/6 <DLCulhane@cs.com> >> > >

GOOD MORNING, DIANA... TO YOU AND OTHERS WHO ARE JUST DISCOVERING "IRELANDOLDNEWS" WE WHO TYPED THE TRANSCRIPTIONS ARE PLEASED TO KNOW OUR WORK IS BEING READ AND APPRECIATED. COLIN FERGUSON OF CALIFORNIA WAS IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT AND THERE WERE SEVERAL OF US WHO TYPED TRANSCRIPTIONS, PRIMARILY KAREN HART AND I. WE TRIED TO TYPE ARTICLES OF GENEALOGICAL INTEREST AS WELL AS ARTICLES SHOWING HOW THE PEOPLE LIVED ON A DAILY BASIS. THERE ARE GAPS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD CERTAIN MICROFILMS AVAILABLE TO US. ENJOY! KAY STANTON DAYTONA BEACH, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Nowell" <Diana@nowell.co.uk> To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> Cc: <IRL-MAYO@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com>; <IRISH-IN-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Good Irish Genealogy Web Sites and Books > Thank you for posting these links. > Some I have never seen. > > I just came across a site for Irish Newspapers. > > *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index.html*<http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index.html> > > Link below takes you directly to *CAVAN* > > *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html*<http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html> > > There are a few missing years & months but on a whole it is fantastic > read. > > Not only have I found my own family mentioned but it takes you back in > time > to how life truly was for them. > > It is like picking up a favorite Novel. > > Happy researching everyone > > Diana Nowell > 2009/7/6 <DLCulhane@cs.com>

----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Nowell" <Diana@nowell.co.uk> To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> Cc: <IRL-MAYO@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-GALWAY@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com>; <IRL-MONAGHAN@rootsweb.com>; <IRISH-IN-CHICAGO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Good Irish Genealogy Web Sites and Books > Thank you for posting these links. > Some I have never seen. > > I just came across a site for Irish Newspapers. > > *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index.html*<http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index.html> > > Link below takes you directly to *CAVAN* > > *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html*<http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html> > > There are a few missing years & months but on a whole it is fantastic > read. > > Not only have I found my own family mentioned but it takes you back in > time > to how life truly was for them. > > It is like picking up a favorite Novel. > > Happy researching everyone > > Diana Nowell > 2009/7/6 <DLCulhane@cs.com>

I've found that the information on the downloaded records is sometimes not as complete as that on the original. For example, no cause of death in the transcription of a death certificate on which it was provided. If the parish register has been filmed, you might check the film to be sure information wasn't omitted. Diane

Hi Carolyn, I think it's hard to define "usual" for the parish records. Each priest had his own way of recording. For marriages, you might get parents, and would probably get witnesses. You might get a townland, but not necessarily. I wouldn't expect to find age or occupation in a church record. If it occurred after 1864, however, you at least have a date which you can use to get the civil record, which would have age, father and occupation. In the couple of cases where I've purchased the records, the value to me was the confirmation of the match of the 2 individuals, and the date of the marriage. I too wish that parents were listed, but it is what it is. One side note, which I find interesting..., my GrGrandparents marriage was recorded in Latin, which was not uncommon. When the record was transcribed, they chose to translate it into English. I discovered this because I've been exchanging emails with the current pp. It doesn't matter too much, other than I generally record exactly what was written in the registers when keeping notes on my ancestors. (Johannes for John, Anna for Anne). And I guess to answer your original question, Father did offer this to me in one of our exchanges: "Sadly , the priest who was in the parish at the time generally ignored the column for parents' and witnesses' names so there are no further details for John and Anna ( the form of entry)...". John -----Original Message----- From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CarolMay5@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:17 AM To: irl-cavan@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Query about Marriage record Hi, I just used the Cavan site to download a marriage record. It was a Catholic marriage. The information was so limited I could have known most from the original search. No parents, no age, no occupation and no address. Is this usual for Catholic marriages or was just unlucky? The Protestant marriage provide more information. Any confirmation would be appreciated. Regards, Carolyn **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.386 / Virus Database: 270.13.7/2222 - Release Date: 07/07/09 05:53:00

Hi, I just used the Cavan site to download a marriage record. It was a Catholic marriage. The information was so limited I could have known most from the original search. No parents, no age, no occupation and no address. Is this usual for Catholic marriages or was just unlucky? The Protestant marriage provide more information. Any confirmation would be appreciated. Regards, Carolyn **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003)

Hi MarieThank you for your reply yes i am a McShane my ggg grand dad was John McShane he married Maryann McCann they had Henry ,Sarah, John i know there is more but i cant find the they do follow the naming Pattern MY gg granfather John had Roseann, Henry, Patrick, John ,Daniel , Hugh.Isabella On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM, <mimitwo2@cox.net> wrote: > HI Jean ! SORRY TO SAY i HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHERE THESE MCSHANE > FAMILY CAME FROM IN IRELAND. MY HUSBAND'S GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS PATRICK > MCSHANE HE SERVED IN THE US CIVIL WAR. I GOT HIS MILITARY AND PENSION > RECORDS. ALSO HIS ENLISTEMENT PAPERS; SOMEWHERE ON A DOCUMENT HE SAID > HE WAS FROM COUNTY MONAGHAN. BUT THEN AGAIN I DON;T REALLY KNOW. HIS > YOUNGER SON CHRISTOPHER MCSHANE WAS BORN IN RHODE ISLAND IN 1862. > PATRICK'S WIFE DIED IN 1864. I CAN NOT LOCATE A DEATH RECORD. ALL I > HAVE IS A BURIAL RECORD AT OLD ST MARY'S CEMETERY IN WHAT IS NOW WEST > WARWICK, RI > IN 1884 CHRISTOPHER MCSHANE MARRIED A MARARGET ANDERSON [?HICKEY]. THEY > HAD A STILLBORN SON IN OCTOBER 1865. IN APRIL 1888 THEY HAD A 2ND SON > GEORGE EDWARD MCSHANE. SOMETIME BETWEEN 1888 AND JUST BEFORE 1900 > MARGARET AND CHRISTOPHER EITHER DIVORCED OR SHE DIED. THIS IS MY > GREATEST BRICK WALL. I CAN NOT FIND MARGARET MCSHANE. DEAD OR ALIVE > SOMEWHERE. GEORGE MCSHANE MARRIED MARY FITZPATRICK IN APRIL 1912. THEY > HAD 3 CHILDREN : JOHN , THOMAS AND HELEN. JOHN WAS BORN IN 1915. THOMAS > IN 1916 AND HELEN IN 1917. IN OCTOBER 1918 GEORGE DIED OF COMPLICATIONS > TO THE GREAT FLU EPIDEMIC. HE WAS 30 YRS OLD. BEFORE HE WAS MARRIED HE > LIVED WITH HIS GRANDMOTHER'S SISTER SARAH RUSSELL CONLEY. I WAS TOLD > THAT HE LIVED WITH THEM ALL THE TIME HE WAS GOING TO SCHOOL. AND THAT > HE WENT BY GEORGE CONLEY FOR YRS. THERE WAS I THINK A DISCONNECT FROM > HIS FATHER CHRISTOPHER.... I CAN NOT BE SURE OF THIS ... BUT WHEN > THOMAS, JOHN AND HELEN WERE SMALL HE CAME TO VISIT THEM ON CHRISTMAS DAY > AND THOUGHT HE WOULD SPEND THE NIGHT... HOWEVER HIS DAUGHTER-IN-LAW'S > SISTER MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY HAD 'NO ROOM FOR HIM' SO OFF HE WENT > NEVER TO SEE HIS GRANDCHILDREN FOR MANY YRS TO COME. HE DIED IN OCTOBER > 1946 LIVING ALONE IN CT. HE IS BURIED THERE ALSO IN A 'BORROWED GRAVE' > FROM I COULD FIND OUT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE HAS A HEADSTONE.... OR > EXACTLY WHAT CEMETERY HEIS BURIED IN. MY HUSBAND'S FATHER WAS THOMAS > AND THIS FROM WHOM I GOT THIS INFO. THOMAS DIED IN AUGUST 2003. I > THOUGHT MAYBE WHEN WE WENT THRU HIS 'STUFF' WE WOULD FIND SOME INFO.... > BUT FOUND NOTHING...... SO WHAT I HAVE ON THE MCSHANES I CAN FIT ON 2 > OR 3 8X10 INCH PAPERS.... DOES NOT SAY MUCH....... BUT I KEEP LOOKING > HOPING I CAN FIND SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.... > THANKS/MARIE\ > > > PS: ARE YOU A MCSHANE ?????? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

HI Jean ! SORRY TO SAY i HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHERE THESE MCSHANE FAMILY CAME FROM IN IRELAND. MY HUSBAND'S GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS PATRICK MCSHANE HE SERVED IN THE US CIVIL WAR. I GOT HIS MILITARY AND PENSION RECORDS. ALSO HIS ENLISTEMENT PAPERS; SOMEWHERE ON A DOCUMENT HE SAID HE WAS FROM COUNTY MONAGHAN. BUT THEN AGAIN I DON;T REALLY KNOW. HIS YOUNGER SON CHRISTOPHER MCSHANE WAS BORN IN RHODE ISLAND IN 1862. PATRICK'S WIFE DIED IN 1864. I CAN NOT LOCATE A DEATH RECORD. ALL I HAVE IS A BURIAL RECORD AT OLD ST MARY'S CEMETERY IN WHAT IS NOW WEST WARWICK, RI IN 1884 CHRISTOPHER MCSHANE MARRIED A MARARGET ANDERSON [?HICKEY]. THEY HAD A STILLBORN SON IN OCTOBER 1865. IN APRIL 1888 THEY HAD A 2ND SON GEORGE EDWARD MCSHANE. SOMETIME BETWEEN 1888 AND JUST BEFORE 1900 MARGARET AND CHRISTOPHER EITHER DIVORCED OR SHE DIED. THIS IS MY GREATEST BRICK WALL. I CAN NOT FIND MARGARET MCSHANE. DEAD OR ALIVE SOMEWHERE. GEORGE MCSHANE MARRIED MARY FITZPATRICK IN APRIL 1912. THEY HAD 3 CHILDREN : JOHN , THOMAS AND HELEN. JOHN WAS BORN IN 1915. THOMAS IN 1916 AND HELEN IN 1917. IN OCTOBER 1918 GEORGE DIED OF COMPLICATIONS TO THE GREAT FLU EPIDEMIC. HE WAS 30 YRS OLD. BEFORE HE WAS MARRIED HE LIVED WITH HIS GRANDMOTHER'S SISTER SARAH RUSSELL CONLEY. I WAS TOLD THAT HE LIVED WITH THEM ALL THE TIME HE WAS GOING TO SCHOOL. AND THAT HE WENT BY GEORGE CONLEY FOR YRS. THERE WAS I THINK A DISCONNECT FROM HIS FATHER CHRISTOPHER.... I CAN NOT BE SURE OF THIS ... BUT WHEN THOMAS, JOHN AND HELEN WERE SMALL HE CAME TO VISIT THEM ON CHRISTMAS DAY AND THOUGHT HE WOULD SPEND THE NIGHT... HOWEVER HIS DAUGHTER-IN-LAW'S SISTER MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY HAD 'NO ROOM FOR HIM' SO OFF HE WENT NEVER TO SEE HIS GRANDCHILDREN FOR MANY YRS TO COME. HE DIED IN OCTOBER 1946 LIVING ALONE IN CT. HE IS BURIED THERE ALSO IN A 'BORROWED GRAVE' FROM I COULD FIND OUT. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF HE HAS A HEADSTONE.... OR EXACTLY WHAT CEMETERY HEIS BURIED IN. MY HUSBAND'S FATHER WAS THOMAS AND THIS FROM WHOM I GOT THIS INFO. THOMAS DIED IN AUGUST 2003. I THOUGHT MAYBE WHEN WE WENT THRU HIS 'STUFF' WE WOULD FIND SOME INFO.... BUT FOUND NOTHING...... SO WHAT I HAVE ON THE MCSHANES I CAN FIT ON 2 OR 3 8X10 INCH PAPERS.... DOES NOT SAY MUCH....... BUT I KEEP LOOKING HOPING I CAN FIND SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.... THANKS/MARIE\ PS: ARE YOU A MCSHANE ??????

Hi marieI saw your surname is McShane do you know if your McShane family came from Cavan Kind regards Jean On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:25 AM, <mimitwo2@cox.net> wrote: > Looking for the death records of my great grandparents. > > JOHN CRUDDEN- husband of Anne Sheil died before 1901 [ as in the 1901 > census Anne was listed as 'widow'] > > ANNE {SHEIL} CRUDDEN - widow of JoHN died after 1911. In the 1911 > census still living. > > They came from Loughdavan -loughduff area of County Cavan > > Much thanks > > Marie McShane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

Thank you for posting these links. Some I have never seen. I just came across a site for Irish Newspapers. *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index.html*<http://www.irelandoldnews.com/index.html> Link below takes you directly to *CAVAN* *http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html*<http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/index.html> There are a few missing years & months but on a whole it is fantastic read. Not only have I found my own family mentioned but it takes you back in time to how life truly was for them. It is like picking up a favorite Novel. Happy researching everyone Diana Nowell 2009/7/6 <DLCulhane@cs.com> > I posted the following tips on a message board in response to a request and > it was suggested that I post them to mailing lists, too, so here goes. > Additions more than welcome (and apologies to those who will get this > several > times)! > > Diane > > Good Irish Genealogy Web Sites and Books > > Failteromhat.com has lots of useful information, including Griffith's > index. Quick way to determine where names were most common in mid-19th > century. > > Askaboutireland.ie has Griffith's pages and maps. > > Irish-roots.ie lets you search civil and church records indexes, more being > added regularly. Have to pay to see actual entries, so I use to narrow > possibilities, then get entries from LDS or GRO (don't trust transcriptions > on > line, as can have errors). > > Irishtimes.com/ancestor has lots of great information. I use it mostly for > finding what records exist for various Catholic parishes. If LDS haven't > filmed, National Library of Ireland often has and you can pay a researcher > to > search. County heritage centers are another, but expensive, avenue, but > I've > had very mixed results. > > Groireland.ie is for ordering civil records that haven't been filmed by the > LDS. > > Nationalarchives.ie gradually putting 1911 Irish census on line. Both 1911 > and 1901 should be on line by end of 2009. > > Leitrim-roscommon.com has lots of information for more than just Leitrim > and Roscommon. > > Familysearch.org good for searching IGI (under Advanced Search) and Record > Search pilot (all civil indexes are supposed to be on there, but I've found > not complete), as well as library catalog. > > If you have any Clare ancestors, clarelibrary.ie is wonderful. > > Grenham's Tracing Your Irish Ancestors very useful for getting the lay of > the Irish genealogy land. > > Mitchell's New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland helpful for converting civil > parishes in Griffith's to RC parishes, as well as for figuring out civil > registration districts. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >