Hi, I too have McGuire's from Cavan who were working in the Jute industry in Dundee. I am having problems finding them in Cavan, but as I can only use the internet, and looking at free indexes at that, I understand that it may take me some time to find them. I do have details of all the Scottish vital stats that I need for my direct line, but am beginning to work out on peripheral lines to see if there are any living relatives who may have had more luck tracing their ancestors. Don Farnham. On 05/10/2009 14:43, Anton Mcloughlin wrote: > Dundee had a lot of Irish immigrants working in the Jute industry. Jute > industry was a magnet for unskilled people > > -------- Original Message -------- > >> Wow, that is so interesting! and thanks for sharing, I would never have >> thought to go looking for my Irish people in Scotland. And I should have, >> because I do remember Linda Merle, the listowner of the Scotch Irish list, >> telling us that that whole area of Ireland-sea-Scotland was a giant sea >> kingdom, and that people would travel back and forth as necessary to make a >> living, or as politics affected their lives. She is very knowledgeable, you >> could try sending her an email and asking her about it. >> >> Nancy >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dundee had a lot of Irish immigrants working in the Jute industry. Jute industry was a magnet for unskilled people -------- Original Message -------- > Wow, that is so interesting! and thanks for sharing, I would never have > thought to go looking for my Irish people in Scotland. And I should have, > because I do remember Linda Merle, the listowner of the Scotch Irish list, > telling us that that whole area of Ireland-sea-Scotland was a giant sea > kingdom, and that people would travel back and forth as necessary to make a > living, or as politics affected their lives. She is very knowledgeable, you > could try sending her an email and asking her about it. > > Nancy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Wow, that is so interesting! and thanks for sharing, I would never have thought to go looking for my Irish people in Scotland. And I should have, because I do remember Linda Merle, the listowner of the Scotch Irish list, telling us that that whole area of Ireland-sea-Scotland was a giant sea kingdom, and that people would travel back and forth as necessary to make a living, or as politics affected their lives. She is very knowledgeable, you could try sending her an email and asking her about it. Nancy

Hi Folks, I have found a record on Scotland's People that is quite interesting but seems a bit far fetched. I am tapping into your greater wisdom and expertise. I have found a marriage for Terrence McGuire, parents Denis McGuire and Helen Brady, no location given and Mary Devlin, of County Cavan, father James, deceased and mother Maria Donoly. The marriage is registered in the Burgh of Dundee in County Forfar Scotland in the local Catholic Church on November 26, 1858. Witness was Philip Lynch and Hannah Clark From their son's marriage certificate I can verify that I am fairly sure that this is the set of parents that I am seeking. Their grandson was in my GGGrandparents household on the night of the 1901 Fermanagh census. I know that times were hard. Would they have travelled to the East Coast of Scotland for work? Perhaps there were more Irish working there? All comments and suggestions will be considered. Roy thank you for mentioning the idea of sharing information with others on certificates that we have that contain info not our own. Unfortunately the other bride and groom listed are from Tyrone so will post there. Actually seems I answered my own question if folks from Tyrone were there too. In further reading the second marriage on the same day I find a witness to the second marriage is Mary McGuire ( the recently married Mary Devlin??) same day, same church. Friends or relatives. Friends most likely as all are listed as "weavers." Janet

I googled and found it, looks like they have changed the web site around. Just start with the main site: http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/ I will have to update my bookmark, too. Susan On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Nancy & Ted <hootmon2@earthlink.net> wrote: > In searching for help for Ted on his Flack name, I went looking for the > site that has records on births, deaths, marriages, that you can partially > see and then purchase. > > What happened to it? I have it bookmarked as this, > https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/csi_main.cfm > but get an error message now. I have tried breaking it off at various > places, as well as googling, but can't bring it up. Would some kind soul > tell me what it is? > > BTW, Ted, in my Comerford line, most of them changed their name to Comiskey > during The Troubles, I think. But for a chance remark by my aunt, I would > not have figured it out for a long time--but that Irish Times site does list > it as an alternative. > > nancy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Help? Without direct access to the UK National Archives, I am reliant on the records that are available on-line. The searches I have done on-line have not been succesful in identifying a possible Flack family living in and around Bailieborough, Cavan in 1831 to which William, b. 1 Apr 1810 or 1809, could have belonged (The Army records show that William said he was from the "Parish of Killan, in or near the Town of Balyburrow"). The only clues that I have as to his parents names are that his father may have been also William and that an Elizabeth Flack, possibly his mother, is buried in the same grave in Burnley. The family was Presbyterian (William baptised his son in Limerick Prebyterian Church on 25 Feb 1858.) I have found Flack families in Monaghan and further North, and a family in Lurganbane, but non with a William and Elizabeth. Can anyone suggest how I might proceed? Regards Ted Flack Brisbane Australia

Thanks Grant -- I knew about that one, but this one was all Irish records, and they were adding more and more everytime you went. Here is one, I was confusing this with the one I'm seeking, but Ted, you might find info here: http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/search.php Nancy

In searching for help for Ted on his Flack name, I went looking for the site that has records on births, deaths, marriages, that you can partially see and then purchase. What happened to it? I have it bookmarked as this, https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/csi_main.cfm but get an error message now. I have tried breaking it off at various places, as well as googling, but can't bring it up. Would some kind soul tell me what it is? BTW, Ted, in my Comerford line, most of them changed their name to Comiskey during The Troubles, I think. But for a chance remark by my aunt, I would not have figured it out for a long time--but that Irish Times site does list it as an alternative. nancy

Until you find the other try this one. http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#start Yours Aye, Grant. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy & Ted" <hootmon2@earthlink.net> To: <IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:35 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Irish records site > In searching for help for Ted on his Flack name, I went looking for the > site that has records on births, deaths, marriages, that you can partially > see and then purchase. > > What happened to it? I have it bookmarked as this, > https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/csi_main.cfm > but get an error message now. I have tried breaking it off at various > places, as well as googling, but can't bring it up. Would some kind soul > tell me what it is? > > BTW, Ted, in my Comerford line, most of them changed their name to > Comiskey during The Troubles, I think. But for a chance remark by my > aunt, I would not have figured it out for a long time--but that Irish > Times site does list it as an alternative. > > nancy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I recently told the support team at familysearch.org that a relative's entry in the civil birth index does not appear in the on-line index (on Record Search pilot) for that year, nor do three others from that birth index page that I searched for randomly, suggesting the page was skipped or misentered. They said I should keep a list of the errors I'd noted, as it might be possible in the future to correct the index (a notice of that capability would be posted). I'd suggest that everyone who has photocopies of actual civil registrations check them against the on-line index, as time permits, and note any discrepancies so that they can someday be corrected. This is a great resource, but it clearly still needs work. Diane Culhane

In a message dated 9/21/2009 9:04:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tomandmaureen@roadrunner.com writes: I have a few Broderick's in NYC , but no Dennings, trey chelsea ma. Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Genealogy List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project In a message dated 9/21/2009 9:04:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tomandmaureen@roadrunner.com writes: I have a few Broderick's in NYC , but no Dennings,

I have a few Broderick's in NYC , but no Dennings, Tom Brady -----Original Message----- From: irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-cavan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CARADOC28@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:26 PM To: IRL-LONGFORD@rootsweb.com Cc: IRL-CAVAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] BRODERICK WHO HAS THEM BRODERICK WHO HAS THEM ESPECIALLY WITH A FORM OF DENNING Cause i do in chelsea ma Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Genealogy List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Ma zzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.99/2372 - Release Date: 09/16/09 17:49:00

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I think that's the joke, although presumably locals knew it was there and so it served its purpose. Diane

This is fine, but, if the sign is below the surface, how can you read it and be warned? Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kemp" <thomas.j.kemp@gmail.com> To: <irl-cavan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:50 AM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Anyone seen this stone sign in Cavan? > Anyone been to County Cavan, Ireland and know if this helpful stone > sign is still there? > This article is from the (New Hampshire) Farmer's Cabinet - 1 April 1806. > > It reads "When this stone is out of sight, it is not safe to ford the > river.&q...uot; > Does anyone know exactly where this stone is/was? > > See: http://bit.ly/Rhppi > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CAVAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Anyone been to County Cavan, Ireland and know if this helpful stone sign is still there? This article is from the (New Hampshire) Farmer's Cabinet - 1 April 1806. It reads "When this stone is out of sight, it is not safe to ford the river.&q...uot; Does anyone know exactly where this stone is/was? See: http://bit.ly/Rhppi

Thanks for sharing all of your hard work, Sharon, and for the idea of researching deeds -- I'm sure it will benefit others as all of our trees expand. Nancy

I have listed beneath the names, places and dates of the last dozen or so deeds I have posted to my web site this week. Recently, I have received a few emails asking why I am making deeds my focus. I find it to be one of the most productive ways through brick walls when it comes to that class of people who had leases of land. As a result of my work in this past week, I have been able to connect a few dozen more people in my tree and also I have been able to add details about dozens more. For those of us whose known ancestors stretch back into the 1700s, this is sometimes the best way to make progress. And I continue to share these transcriptions with others on the lists, in part because sharing feels good, but also because I am always hungry to learn more. The updated tree can be found at: Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl The deeds can be accessed either at What's New: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/misc/whatsnew.htm or else on the page: where I have hyperlinks to all the deeds: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/Wills_and_Will_abstracts.htm As always, I appreciate learning of any errors that need correction. I also try to correct case-sensitive errors as some searches won't work when I get them wrong (example "WIlliam" instead of "William". Also, as always, enjoy and let me know if you find family. Here's the new postings: 1868 January 27 NAMES: Henry COULTER of Carrickastuck; Arthur JOHNSTON of Lisdoo; Alexander DONALDSON of Philipstown; Henry COULTER; Matthew Moore GRAHAM of Lisdoo; Edward FERRER; WIlliam ARNOTT. OTHER PLACES: Shortstone; Cloughmaguigan. 1866 July 13 NAMES: Henry COULTER of Carrickastuck; Arthur JOHNSTON of Dundalk; Alexander DONALDSON of Philipstown; Henry COULTER; Bernard CLARK of Mill Park; Augustus GRAHAM of Lisdoo; John McCABE; John M. NUGENT; Richard William McDERMOTT. OTHER PLACES: Castletown River; Shortstone; Cloughmaguigan; Barronstown. 1851 April 28 NAMES: Henry COULTER of Carrickastuck; William CHARLETON of Philipstown; Ann COULTER of Carrickastuck; Andrew HAMILTON of Longfield; James TREACY; Alexander DONALDSON of Philipstown; Mary COULTER; Eliza COULTER; William COULTER; Ralph COULTER; Sarah Anne COULTER; John COULTER; Margaret COULTER; Richard LONDON [perhaps LONDAN] of Castletown; Joseph DICKIE; [Jos?] H. HARRIOT. 1848 December 21 NAMES: Alexander McEVOY, Philipstown;William CHARLETON, Philipstown; Alexander DONALDSON late of Philipstown; James McEVOY. 1838 March 10 NAMES: Samuel COULTER of Molesworth; Alexander DONALDSON of Philipstown; Humphry STEVENSON; Joseph COULTER of Dowdalls Hill; DOWDALL; QUIGLEY; GEMON; FITZSIMMON; Samuel COULTER of Kingstown, Dublin; Thomas Elder FLEURY of Dublin; Walter GLASSCOCK. OTHER PLACES: Dowdalls Hill. 1803 December 7 NAMES: Charles COULTER of Annaghvacky; Patrick McARDLE of Carrickastuck; James COULTER of Carrickastuck; William COULTER; Charles COULTER; Ralph COULTER; Henry COULTER; Bryan CALLANS of Tankharlsrock aka Tankardsrock; Patrick CONNELY of Tavenaghvore (aka Tawnamore?); Daniel CASSIDY of Dundalk. 1803 December 5 NAMES: Charles COULTER of Annaghvacky; Owen ROONEY of Carrickastuck; William COULTER; Charles COULTER; Ralph COULTER of Carrickastuck; Henry COULTER of Carrickastuck; James COULTER sr.; Patrick CONNOLLY of Cavananore; Edward GREGORY of Dundalk; Mary PAGE & Stephen PAGE of Dundalk. 1799 December 10 NAMES: Charles COULTER of Roachdale; Patrick LENNON of Carrickastuck; James COULTER sr. of Carrickastuck; William COULTER of Carrickastuck; Patrick CONOLLY of Toanaghmore aka Tawnamore; McALESTOR of Annaghvackey. 1776 December 4 NAMES: John COULTER of Carrickastuck; William POLLOCK of Carrickastuck; Charles COULTER; William COULTER; John COULTER; Lord John BELLEW; James COULTER; Robert BRANNAN jr. of Longfield, Monaghan; Catherine COULTER; Michael MOLONY. 1753 May 29 NAMES: Rev Patrick SIMSON aka SIMPSON aka SYMPSON of Mount Pleasant, Co. Louth; John COULTER & Andrew COULTER of Cavananore; John COULTER; Grizel SIMSON; Joseph COULTER; John McNEAL of Foughart; Henry MacNeil KENNEDY; George KENNEDY; Samuel BRADFORD; John BRADFORD of Cavananore; William GREEN; P. Simson KENNEDY. OTHER PLACES: Dungooley. 1748 February 14 NAMES: Charles COULTER of Carrickastuck; Mary COULTER otherwise McEVERS; Thomas McEVERS of Dublin; Nicodemus McEVERS of Dublin; Elizabeth KYLE of Dublin; Townet SMITH; William HERON of Dublin; William THOMAS of Dublin. 1735 August 27 NAMES: Rt. Hon. John Lord BELLEW; Charles COULTER of Carrickastuck; William COULTER of Carrickastuck; John COULTER; James COULTER; George PIPPARD of Drogheda; Cornelius M'LAUGHLIN of Drogheda; Matthew PAGEITT; Benjamin JOHNSTON. 1734 March 11 NAMES: Rt. Hon John Lord BELLEW; Rev Patrick SYMPSON aka SIMPSON aka SIMSON of Philipstown; James COULTER; Charles COULTER; Nathanial COULTER of Cavananore; Samuel COULTER of Cavananore; Grizel SYMPSON aka SIMSON aka SIMPSON; George PIPPARD of Drogheda; Cornelius M'LAUGHLIN of Drogheda; William CONWAY of Ballenfull aka Ballinfuil. OTHER PLACES: Annaghvackey. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

listowners have to go thru the emails the filters catch tons of them Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Genealogy List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project In a message dated 8/30/2009 5:04:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, s.brown@dccnet.com writes: Forgive me if this is a duplicate message - but I sent it August 24th to a number of rootsweb lists and near as I can tell, it never showed up in any of them:

Forgive me if this is a duplicate message - but I sent it August 24th to a number of rootsweb lists and near as I can tell, it never showed up in any of them: Here are the additions of the past couple of weeks (as always - they can be readily accessed at: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/misc/whatsnew.htm and please let me know of any errors. and/or additions that I can make to the footnotes): 1852 February 17 NAMES: John COULTER of Skyhill, Co. Louth; Hannah LUNDY of Carrickmacross, Co. Monaghan; Launcelot COULTER of Ballymascanlon, Co.; Henry CRANSON aka CRANSTON of Lisgar, Co. Cavan; Thomas SHEWEL of Killeen aka Killen, Co. Louth; Edward CRANSTON of Lisgar; Lawrence LEVINS of Carrickmacross; James Neale MACNALL. NOTE: This one was particularly exciting for me since it moved me closer to connecting up disconnected COULTER trees. 1828 July 22 NAMES: John CUNNINGHAM; James McGRAIN; George McGUSTY, Esq. of Skyhill; Robert GETTY; John SCOTT; John Thomas DICKIE; Andrew Coulter BRADFORD; James CRAWLEY; William PAGE; William HUDSON; Terence COLEMAN; James PARKS; John KNOWLES; Robert GODBY; Patrick WYRE; Peter O'HARE; Mr. STAPLES, KC.; Mr. SCRIVEN; Priest MURPHY; Patty MOONEY of Newtownhamilton; Thomas BURNS of Corcreechy; Matthew MAGENNIS of Newry; James McPARLAND of Markethill; David MONEYPENNY; Mr. MAYNE; Lennox BIGGER; Mr. CROWE; Peter HENEY; Capt BARKER; Arthur McGEOUGH; Owen McPARLAND; John ROCK; O'CALLAGHAN; Peter CAMPBELL; Patrick HAGAN; Samuel GILMORE; Dr. GOODWIN; Peter McANENY; Patrick CUNNINGHAM; McKITTRICK; James CUNNINGHAM; Rev. Gervaise TINLEY; Mr. FOSTER. OTHER PLACES: Crossmaglen, Creggan, Ballsmill, Forkhill, Carrickastuck. NOTE: This deed needs more work on the footnote, but I could stay with it for months if I tried to find out everything about everyone. I depend here on the kindness of strangers to tune me up. 1773 November 19-23 NAMES: James BARCLAY of Maghera, Co. Londonderry; George CLINTON of Garvagh; Joseph WARDEN of Castle-Dawson; Robert & George BARCLAY. 1828 January 4 NAMES: Rev. William HUTCHINSON. Enjoy! Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl