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    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Clifferna and Larah
    2. Maureen Fitzpatrick
    3. There is a Clifferna church in Larah -- also a Larah church. My family lives there and I never know which one I'm in! Clifferna is dank, smelly and old. There is a graveyard across the street from it I think. I told someone I have a picture of it -- but can't find it -- I'll post it when I do find it. The new Larah church was put up in the 1970-80s. Very modern -- I think round -- seems like they make me spend more time in them kneeling than standing outside looking Close by is an old graveyard -- lots of marble -- I think late 1880s-1920s -- I tried as hard as I might to tolerate the murderous barbed weeds in there but I was bleeding profusely and itching like crazy -- plus soaking wet. I mean the grass was over my head. Small area 20x20 square? My cousin says that it has been cleared out -- 2 years ago. Then theres the other church that's near a a big graveyard to the Carrickallen or Stradone Church -- I'm telling you its difficult to get them straight -- all near each other and I go over enough that I never give it much thought to names until its too late. The area is beautiful and lushly green. Most are farmers of Dairy -- then prices went too low about 8 years ago and switched to eating cows (sorry I'm vegatarian and don't know the proper names) -- Steer? They sent the milk to be made into cheese. Mad Cow hit and really bad for the farmers. I know my cousin has a very few just for their milk (more like a hobby). My other cousin sold the farm and moved to Baliebourough -- he's young 40s. Let me know how I can answer your questions better. Mo cjkeoganjr <cjkeoganjr@prodigy.net> wrote: Clifferna 872 Cavan Tullygarvey Larah Cootehill Ulster Karen, Clifferna is a Townland in the Civil Parish of Larah, Barony of Tullygarvey, Poor Law Union of Cootehill. I am not familiar with that area of Cavan. Perhaps someone will know the area. Regards, Chris Keogan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cush and Karen Anthony" To: Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart, Kilsherdany > You say, "They were Roman Catholic, and those who stayed in Cavan may be > buried at > Clifferna." Could you tell me, please, what is Clifferna? and how could I > find places where folks may be buried in Cavan? Is there a list of > cemeteries or churches? perhaps by religion??? Any help you could give me > would be wonderful. Thanks in advance. I'm looking for parents of Samuel > Hart, b. 1815, and his wife Rebecca Kelly, both apparently from Co. Cavan or > nearby. They married, then went to Canada, and I have all the information > from that point down to me. Samuel and Rebecca were my grandfather's > grandparents. > Thanks so much, > Karen Hart Anthony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:22 PM > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart, Kilsherdany > > > > Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart married Bridget BRADY of Tievenanass in > > Kilsherdany in 1878. > > > > Their children, all born in Knockataggart, were: > > > > > Philip, b 1878 > > > > > Frank, b 1880 > to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > > > > > John, b 1882 > to St. Louis, Missouri > > > > > Susan, b 1884 > to St. Louis, Missouri > > > > > Bridget, b 1887 > > > > They were Roman Catholic, and those who stayed in Cavan may be buried at > > Clifferna. > > > > Any leads appreciated... > > > > Jim > > St. Louis > > > > > Maureen Fitzpatrick Cleveland Film Society Phone: 914-712-0414 Fax: 914-712-0415 email: maureen_fitzpatrick@yahoo.com

    02/06/2004 06:13:02
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Roll Call - LATIMER, LATTAMER, LETTERMORE - ASHFIELD
    2. Jill Finch
    3. Hi, I am researching Latimer and variations of name. William LATIMER, born approx. 1841, Ashfield, County Cavan, father James, mother Isabella (nee Smith). Married Fanny BEALE, (born County Wicklow), moved to New Zealand approx. 1875. Cannot find William in the Ashfield Parish Baptismal Register. Is anyone else researching this family? Best regards Jill, Australia

    02/06/2004 05:25:33
    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart, Kilsherdany
    2. cjkeoganjr
    3. Clifferna 872 Cavan Tullygarvey Larah Cootehill Ulster Karen, Clifferna is a Townland in the Civil Parish of Larah, Barony of Tullygarvey, Poor Law Union of Cootehill. I am not familiar with that area of Cavan. Perhaps someone will know the area. Regards, Chris Keogan xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cush and Karen Anthony" <cushkaren@gwi.net> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart, Kilsherdany > You say, "They were Roman Catholic, and those who stayed in Cavan may be > buried at > Clifferna." Could you tell me, please, what is Clifferna? and how could I > find places where folks may be buried in Cavan? Is there a list of > cemeteries or churches? perhaps by religion??? Any help you could give me > would be wonderful. Thanks in advance. I'm looking for parents of Samuel > Hart, b. 1815, and his wife Rebecca Kelly, both apparently from Co. Cavan or > nearby. They married, then went to Canada, and I have all the information > from that point down to me. Samuel and Rebecca were my grandfather's > grandparents. > Thanks so much, > Karen Hart Anthony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <JFDowd@aol.com> > To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:22 PM > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart, Kilsherdany > > > > Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart married Bridget BRADY of Tievenanass in > > Kilsherdany in 1878. > > > > Their children, all born in Knockataggart, were: > > > > > Philip, b 1878 > > > > > Frank, b 1880 > to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > > > > > John, b 1882 > to St. Louis, Missouri > > > > > Susan, b 1884 > to St. Louis, Missouri > > > > > Bridget, b 1887 > > > > They were Roman Catholic, and those who stayed in Cavan may be buried at > > Clifferna. > > > > Any leads appreciated... > > > > Jim > > St. Louis > > > > >

    02/06/2004 04:57:54
    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Roll call: Loughlin, O'Loughlin, Hannon
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. Dear Nancy, I'll work on it. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada s.brown@dccnet.com www.user.dccnet.com/s.brown/

    02/06/2004 04:57:36
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] McGEE
    2. Claire F. McCormack
    3. McGEE Maudabawn/Killatee townland, Drumgoon parish, 19th century Related surnames: McMAHON TACKNEY REILLY LYNCH BRADY > Decorah, Iowa Claire McCormack Web Site: http://home.rochester.rr.com/cfmccormack

    02/06/2004 04:24:49
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] GAFFNEY
    2. Claire F. McCormack
    3. GAFFNEY Tonagh townland, Mountnugent/Kilbride parish, first half 19th cent. Related surnames: PLUNKETT (Oldcastle/Loughcrew, Co. Meath > Tonagh by 1821) McCABE (Tonagh or vicinity) Claire McCormack Web Site: http://home.rochester.rr.com/cfmccormack

    02/06/2004 04:17:03
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Re: anglo celt repost
    2. kate odonnell
    3. Thanks Kay................lol I hadn't noticed. cheers Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRL-CAVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRL-CAVAN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: IRL-CAVAN-D Digest V04 #40

    02/06/2004 03:51:00
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Thomas Lynch m. Mary ?
    2. Is anyone researching a Thomas Lynch?&amp;nbsp; He is my great great great grandfather.&amp;nbsp; He married Mary ? before leaving Ireland.&amp;nbsp; Believe he came to the United States (NY area) prior to 1847.&amp; nbsp; They had a son named Peter.&amp;nbsp; Do not know if there were other children.&amp;nbsp; Peter Lynch married Bridget McKenna and my great grandfather James Peter Lynch was born in Haverstraw, NY on 5 Aug. 1858.&amp;nbsp; We believe 2-3 more chldren were born in Haverstraw prior to moving to Cleveland, OH about 1863.&amp;nbsp; Denise

    02/06/2004 01:35:56
    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart, Kilsherdany
    2. Cush and Karen Anthony
    3. You say, "They were Roman Catholic, and those who stayed in Cavan may be buried at Clifferna." Could you tell me, please, what is Clifferna? and how could I find places where folks may be buried in Cavan? Is there a list of cemeteries or churches? perhaps by religion??? Any help you could give me would be wonderful. Thanks in advance. I'm looking for parents of Samuel Hart, b. 1815, and his wife Rebecca Kelly, both apparently from Co. Cavan or nearby. They married, then went to Canada, and I have all the information from that point down to me. Samuel and Rebecca were my grandfather's grandparents. Thanks so much, Karen Hart Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: <JFDowd@aol.com> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:22 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart, Kilsherdany > Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart married Bridget BRADY of Tievenanass in > Kilsherdany in 1878. > > Their children, all born in Knockataggart, were: > > > Philip, b 1878 > > > Frank, b 1880 > to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > > > John, b 1882 > to St. Louis, Missouri > > > Susan, b 1884 > to St. Louis, Missouri > > > Bridget, b 1887 > > They were Roman Catholic, and those who stayed in Cavan may be buried at > Clifferna. > > Any leads appreciated... > > Jim > St. Louis > >

    02/06/2004 12:42:13
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt
    2. Patrick O'Sullivan
    3. Many thanks to those who take the time to type & post these various articles to this list.. I've only recently joined & I appreciate the insight they give about how our ancestors lived... Cheers... Pat... pat@ozonline.com.au www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) Check out the Cerberus http://home.vicnet.net.au/~cerberus/ there's an O'Sullivan! (Dominic) ICQ# 17057235 PO Box 65A Armadale, 3143 Victoria, Australia

    02/05/2004 08:56:17
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart, Kilsherdany
    2. Peter MONAGHAN of Knockataggart married Bridget BRADY of Tievenanass in Kilsherdany in 1878. Their children, all born in Knockataggart, were: > Philip, b 1878 > Frank, b 1880 > to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > John, b 1882 > to St. Louis, Missouri > Susan, b 1884 > to St. Louis, Missouri > Bridget, b 1887 They were Roman Catholic, and those who stayed in Cavan may be buried at Clifferna. Any leads appreciated... Jim St. Louis

    02/05/2004 04:22:31
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] RUSK, GIBSON, JOHNSTONE
    2. S. Dequer
    3. Hi, I'm new to the list. Looking for these families in the Drumlom/Shircock/Baillieborough area, before 1850. I am descended from Joshua Wauchope or Wauhab and Matilda Rusk, m.1845. I have Wauhab info if anyone needs it. Thanks--Sharon _________________________________________________________________ Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your online time. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200363ave/direct/01/

    02/05/2004 12:36:37
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Re: Sarah O'Neill arrived Australia 1841
    2. Bev Kronk
    3. Hi listers Last year someone on the list was asking about a Sarah O'Neill who married a Patrick CONNOLLY in Australia in 1843. Unfortunately the email address is bouncing, so will post the following information to the list. This may or may not be the Sarah in question. >From Bounty Immigration to New South Wales 1828 to 1842. Name Sarah O'Neill Age 27 Year 1841 Ship Runnymede Native Place Swadling Bar Cavan Ireland Occupation Dairymaid Religion Roman Catholic Notes Dau of James and Betty O'Neill, deceased. Reel No. 1337 Regards Bev

    02/05/2004 11:37:26
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Re: IRL-CAVAN-D Digest V04 #41
    2. James O'Connor
    3. I believe a Cess payer is a taxpayer and that an assizes was something like a grand jury. Best Guess joan IRL-CAVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 IRL-CAVAN-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 41 Today's Topics: #1 [IRL-CAVAN] ANGLO-CELT - SEPTEMBER [JOwenG@aol.com] #2 Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Maguires county Ca ["Buffy Cat" ] #3 [IRL-CAVAN] Carrickallen [Maureen Fitzpatrick #4 Re: [IRL-CAVAN] In seach of Maguir ["Buffy Cat" ] #5 Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Roll call: Loughli ["Sharon Oddie Brown" #6 [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess-Paye ["Kay Stanton" #7 Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess- ["Neil & Marg Andrews" #8 Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess- ["Kay Stanton" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from IRL-CAVAN-D, send a message to IRL-CAVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. For help, contact: IRL-Cavan-Admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:57:33 EST From: JOwenG@aol.com To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] ANGLO-CELT - SEPTEMBER 29, 1848 ANGLO-CELT SEPTEMBER 29, 1848 BANKRUPTS TO BE HEARD AT CAVAN -- 13th November next.-- Henry M'AULEY, Cornemraher, farmer Owen SMYTH, Gortine, ditto James M'CABE, Aughatolen, ditto JOhn LEE, Gortine, ditto Denis M'CABE, Drumheish, ditto Thomas MULVANY, Kilnacar, shopkeeper Philip BRADY, Drumkeerinmore, farmer Samuel WILTON, Corglas, labourer Patrick MULHOLLAND, Cornacarrow, farmer Benjamin STAFFORD, Tomkinroad, ditto Michael LARKIN, Amiens, ditto Terence FARRELLY, Drumrath, ditto James DRENNAN, Curneemraher, ditto DECLARATION OF PAUPER PRISONERS LODGED SEPTEMBER 18 ___________________________________________________________ LOCAL NEWS PARISH OF BAILIEBOROUGH--The Rev. F. FITZPATRICK, Rector of Shercock, has been collated to the living of Bailieborough, in the room of the Rev. C. C. BERESFORD, deceased. This appointment gives entire and general satisfaction, and shows in a most favourable light the just discrimination of the Lord Bishop of Kilmore, for a more pure-minded and efficient clergyman he could not possibly select. The Rev. Mr. LOYD has succeeded to the Rectory of Shercock. PRESBYTERIAN MISSIONARY SOCIETY--A meeting of this society was held in the Presbyterian Chapel, Farnham-street, Cavan, on Tuesday evening. The Rev. Mr. KIRKPATRICK attended as a deputation from Dublin, and detailed in a clear and interesting speech the working and prospects of the society, and urged his hearers to more active exertions in behalf of the cause he advocated. The meeting was well attended, and all present were highly pleased with the proceedings. SUDDEN DEATH--On the night of Monday last, the wife of a farmer named M'GOVERN, within a mile and a-half of this town, suddenly took ill after retiring to bed, when she called to her husband for a drink, and having received it, gave him a blessing, and reclined herself in an apparent position for repose. About the hour of one or two o'clock it was ascertained that she had been getting worse; spiritual and medical aid were sent for; but ere any assistance could be given, the woman expired. She had been in the possession of good health for some time previous, and was in the best of spirits on that evening. ASSAULT AND RESCUE--We have been favoured with the particulars of an attempt to seize upon the crops of a tenant by R. M. HASSARD, Esq., for rent, under an affirmation decree, and of a subsequent rescue and assault by the country people. We are aware of the bad feeling that has long existed between Mr. HASSARD and his tenants, and are averse to meddling in such matters; but our duty, as a public journalist, compels us to give a condensed account of the present transaction. On Friday last, Mr. HASSARD, who resides in Bailieborough, proceeded with his son and two bailiffs to the lands of Shancock to execute an affirmation decree on the goods of a tenant named Owen CLARKE for the amount of a year's rents due at November, 1847. The seizure was made upon a field of oats in the stook; but no sooner was it acomplished than a number of labourers gathered and drove off Mr. HASSARD's party, threatening them with greater violence should they return. Mr. HASSARD then went to Capt. WILCOX, R.M., who granted warrants for the ringleaders. In his absence a Mr. JACKSON, a receiver under the court, laid a seizure upon the same field for the sum of �15, due by CLARKE to him also for rent. It appears CLARKE held two farms--one from Mr. HASSARD and one under the courts; the former he did not till this year, but the latter he did. When Mr. HASSARD went to look for his rent he was obliged there to seize upon the crop grown on the second farm, which Mr. JACKSON would not suffer to be removed until his demand was satisfied. The rioters having been apprehended on Saturday were bound over to take their trials at the ensuing quarter sessions. On Monday Mr. HASSARD returned with his men to complete the seizure and remove or sell the oats. When he appeared on the ground, CLARKE's friends, who had been on the look- out, assembled, and marching into the field, two deep, armed with pitchforks, reaping hooks, &c., declared they would resist the seizure. Mr. HASSARD, however, persisted in his intentions, when a scuffle or fight ensued, that at one time was very alarming. Mr. HASSARD received a stab of a pitchfork in the side, which was happily warded off by a parcel of gunpowder and some flints he had about him. He also received a blow of a billhook, which perforated his coat, glancing down sideways without doing further injury. The bailiffs were cut and bruised, one of them receiving a serious wound in the back of the head. Mr. HASSARD was urged by some of his party to discharge a brace of pistols he carried, but was dissuaded by his son, a boy of seventeen years of age. At this stage Mr. HASSARD and his men beat a retreat to Bailieborough, hotly pursued by their opponents. The police immediately went in quest of the rioters, eighteen or twenty of whom they arrested between that and next morning, many of whom were amongst those who had entered recognizances on the previous Saturday. We have been supplied with their names, but we have not space to give them insertion. Another curious circumstance connected with this affair remains to be told. The oats which was in disp ute, and which Mr. JACKSON held for his demand, was carried off at night by a large body of people, while he slept. This was done with such silence and agility that no noise was heard, nor was there the slightest trace of the oats to be found in the morning, although there had been �40 worth in the field on the preceding night. The above are the particulars as they have been forwarded to us; we cannot vouch for their authenticity, but we believe them to be in the main correct. OLDCASTLE UNION--(From a Correspondent)--At a meeting of the Oldcastle Board of Guardians, held on the 22nd instant, Mr. LANGEN, lately a colour-sergeant in the army, and an Englishman, was appointed to the situation of Master of the Workhouse; and Mr. FORSYTHE, a pensioner, was appointed to the situation of Porter. The salary of the Medical Officer, Doctor O'REILLY, was raised from forty pounds to sixty pounds per annum. Several contracts were disposed of. The workhouse is in a healthy state. ====================================================== DIED--This day, in this town, Charles, infant son of Mr. Edward KENNEDY. ====================================================== THE O'REILLY ARMS ARMS--Quarterly, first and fourth vert; a dexter hand proper, blooded gules, supported by two lions rampant, or. Second, Argent, between an embattled Chevron, three balls; gules, a chief sable. Third, Argent, on a mound an oak tree, with a serpent descending from its brances, all proper. CRESTS--First, out a ducal coronet, or, an oak tree, with a serpent descending from its branches, all proper. SUPPORTERS--Two Lions rampant, or. MOTTO--"Fortitudine et Prudentia." The "Chester Chronicle" of last week copied our article on the decease of Dr. O'REILLY of Annagh, which they tastefully enclosed in a mourning border, surmounting it with an engraving of the O'REILLY arms and the above heraldic description. ===================================================== County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:51:26 -0500 From: "Buffy Cat" To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Maguires county Cavan Just wanted to thank you - I believe it is good to try and follow up on all leads. One never knows where they may lead. Thanks again ----- Original Message ----- From: kate odonnell To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Maguires county Cavan I do know there is a Maguire family in Nowra on the NSW Sth Coast, who also came from the Bailieborough area, I believe knockbride. This lady is still in contact with her family in Cavan. I believe the name Brady is also closely related and there was a priest out here too. His name if my memory serves me correctly was father ? O'Brien. Last known to have retired in Goulburn. He too was connected to the Brady's and I believe the Maguires. LOL hope this is not just gossip! regards Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:09 AM Subject: IRL-CAVAN-D Digest V04 #39 ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:45:36 -0800 (PST) From: Maureen Fitzpatrick To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Carrickallen Hi, Fitzpatrick, my grandfather's family is in Laragh and Knockbride. I've been to church in Carrickallen. So my grandfather is Patrick Fitzpatrick of Tulliinchion, Mountain Lodge, Cootehill, Co. Cavan. Our greatgrandfather married a Brady. Well heck all the Fitz' married Bradys Hey and there was even a bunch from Carrickallen. Francis Fitz Carrickallen married Catherine Brady townland? Edward Fitz Carrickallen married Bridget Brady Father Connon Teevegs Francis Fitz Tulliinchion married Annie Brady? And then I have Brady's that are from Lakeland (Legland) My cousin Maria Fitzpatrick (Tulliinchion) is married to Michael Lee in Knocktaggert. (And yes there are Fitz from there too.) Any of this in your files? I take the Fitz back to Belturbet 1710. I'm too much a wimp to take on the Clarke and Brady name yet! (I'm already batteling McHugh & McGovern in Glangevlin.) Thanks, Maureen Fitzpatrick "Claire F. McCormack" wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C3EB17.C7A413E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit COONEY, Carricknamaddo/Waterloo townland, Killinkere parish, 19th century. Married into: FOX (Knockbride), Smith (Lower Lavey) CONNELL/O�CONNELL (Knockataggert), BRADY (Carrickallen, Larah parish) & (Lurgan): PAGE (Oamaru, New Zealand) Claire McCormack Web Site: http://home.rochester.rr.com/cfmccormack ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C3EB17.C7A413E0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Claire F. McCormack.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Claire F. McCormack.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:McCormack;Claire;F. FN:Claire F. McCormack EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:cmcc@rochester.rr.com REV:20040204T170946Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00BB_01C3EB17.C7A413E0-- Maureen Fitzpatrick Cleveland Film Society Phone: 914-712-0414 Fax: 914-712-0415 email: maureen_fitzpatrick@yahoo.com ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:54:03 -0500 From: "Buffy Cat" To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] In seach of Maguires/McGuires in County Cavan Hi: Wanted to thank you for your response. Tomorrow when time permits I will send you what I have but it isn't too much. I'm new at this and at times find it frustrating. Thanks again ----- Original Message ----- From: Hollis To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] In seach of Maguires/McGuires in County Cavan Hi I think we have some type of connection here, although It may be coicidence. I have the marriage of my Gt Gt Grandparents Patrick Lynch and Mary /Margaret Maguire 27 Nov 1861 at possibly Seefin Co Cavan their marriage witnesses were a PAT CAROLAN and a Mary Lynch. Seefin in very near Bailieboro. Look forward to a reply. Barbara from Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buffy Cat" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] In seach of Maguires/McGuires in County Cavan > Hi: > > In search of Hugh & Elizabeth Maguire (brother and sister). Parents Denis Maguire and Mary Carolan (Carlan) from Bailieboro, County Cavan. > > Also, brother and sister John and Bridget Mc Guire, parents Denis McGuire and Mary Carlin, of Cloghan, Donegal. > > Any information appreciated. > > Thank you > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:55:55 -0800 From: "Sharon Oddie Brown" To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Roll call: Loughlin, O'Loughlin, Hannon Greetings, I too am interested in the name "O'Laughlin" - or various spellings along that line. I have a Margaret O'LAUGHLIN (d. 7 December 1797) who married a George JACKSON and moved to Crossmaglen, Co. Armagh. Any ideas where I might look? Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada s.brown@dccnet.com www.user.dccnet.com/s.brown/ ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 7 message/rfc822 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 00:49:37 -0500 From: "Kay Stanton" To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess-Payers - April 29, 1852 "The Anglo Celt" Cavan; Thursday, April 29, 1852 LIST OF CESS-PAYERS appointed by the Grand Jury, at Spring Assizes, 1852, pursuant to the 8th Section of the Act 6 & 7 Wm. IV., ch. 116, as eligible to be associated with the Justices at Presentment Sessions to be holden previous to Summer Assizes 1852, of whom one-half to be selected by Ballot, will be entitled to sit and vote in their respective Baronies. CASTLERAGHAN. 1. Henry T. RATHBOURNE, Virginia 2. Henry O'REILLY, Mullagh. 3. Joseph PORTER, Tyefield. 4. Richard CARROL, Edenburt. 5. Charles PARR, Carnaveagh. 6. Owen BOYLEN, Drumloman. 7. Robert MORROW, Derrylurgan. 8. John KELLETT, Rantarin. 9. David KELLETT, Cornasesk. 10. Thomas BUCHANAN, Gradum. 11. Francis JENNINGS, Killyduff. 12. Peter BRADY, Cormuddyduff. CLONMAHON. 1. Joseph KNIGHT, Culleboy. 2. Anthony KILROY, Omard. 3. William FOSTER, Aughawilagh. 4. Edward ROTHERAM, Roebuck. 5. Trouson DIMSDALE, Legaland. 6. Thomas S. O'REILLY, Ballinagh. 7. Thomas STRONG, Cavanacoulter. 8. Robert STRADFORD, Cloncavid. 9. William GALLIGAN, Drumkelly. 10. Samuel HEASLIP, Cornaseer. 11. John BEATTY, Lisiney. 12. Michael HOLMES, Lisduff. CLONKEE. 1. Thomas ARGUE, Bailieborough. 2. Robert KELLY, Drumtamon. 3. Thomas CHALMERS, Bailieborough. 4. Edward BLOOMER, Lateriff. 5. John MARTIN, Greagh. 6. Owen GAFFNEY, Raleghbeg. 7. Patrick REILLY, Glassleck. 8. William ENGLISH, Taghart. 9. Charles PARR, Drumscarow. 10. Thomas HALL, Drumeague. 11. Henry REBURN, Lisnadara. 12. John FITZSIMONS, Derry. UPPER LOUGHTREE. 1. Laurence KENNEDY, Ballyhaise. 2. John MOORE, Ballymacarue. 3. Robert FEGAN, Swellan. 4. James BLACK, Toneymore. 5. William CARMICHAEL, Munnery. 6. James FEGAN, Annaglough. 7. William SCOTT, Clonluscan. 8. James WILSON, Butlersbridge. 9. James FAY, Cavan. 10. James LEE, Latagloghan. 11. Thomas HaRTLEY, Countenan. 12. Charles KENNY, Tullylough. LOWER LOUGHTEE. 1. David GRIFFITH, the Lodge. 2. Francis EBBITT, Drumgart. 3. George ARMSTRONG, Quivey. 4. Bernard M'DONALD, Caldragh. 5. John KELLY, Miltown. 6. Thomas CLARKE, Belturbet. 7. James BERRY, jun., Aughavogher. 8. Alexander CLEMENGER, Ardue. 9. Hugh HINKSTON, Bunn. 10. Alexander LANG, Belturbet. 11. William GREGG, Gortaquill. 12. Charles BELL, Drumaloor. TULLYGARVEY. 1. Edward M'INTOSH, Cootehill. 2. Samuel MARTIN, Tullyvinn. 3. John ROBERTS, Clinandra. 4. Phillip SMITH, Artonagh. 5. Joseph ADAMS, Rakane. 6. John DAVIS, Redhills. 7. Charles MURPHY, Caldragh. 8. William WORTHY, Lisogoan. 9. James VOGAN, Cornasass. 10. Nicholas BRADY, Tonyinn. 11. Charles WHITELY, Cortabea. 12. James M'QUILLAN, Drumhose. TULLYHUNCO. 1. Richard FOX, Esq., Aughabawn. 2. William CLEMENGER, Killyshandra. 3. Joseph DONALDSON, Derrylane. 4. Joseph DENHAM, Macken. 5. George REA, Kildallon. 6. Charles ALEXANDER, Killeshandra. 7. David VEITCH, Ballyheady. 8. Richad ARNOLD, Aughavadrin. 9. Robert VANCE, Arva. 10. George BEST, Cornuacrum 11. Charles HAUGHTON, Loughnafin. 12. Gustavus NOBLE, Aughnacor. TULLYHAW. 1. John CROSS, Erreran. 2. David FINLAY, Bawnboy. 3. William GIBSON, Cloneary. 4. Henry GOODFELLOW, Gortnaleck. 5. Thomas NUGENT, Swanlinbar. 6. Joseph MAGUIRE, Kilsub. 7. James REILLY, Owngallis. 8. Richard KELLS, Killenaffe. 9. Robert ROYCROFT, Lisnover. 10. Daniel VEITCH, Curraghmore. 11. James KELLS, Ballyconnell. 12. James SPOTTEN, Newtowgore. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 8 message/rfc822 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 16:31:21 +1000 From: "Neil & Marg Andrews" To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess-Payers - April 29, 1852 A Cess-Payer eh? What or whom is a Cess-Payer? What is Cess? I am curious to know what they were elected to. What did they vote for? Were they a sort of jury or judges at the Assizes? Anyone hazard a guess? Marg A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Stanton" To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:49 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess-Payers - April 29, 1852 > "The Anglo Celt" > > Cavan; Thursday, April 29, 1852 > LIST OF CESS-PAYERS appointed by the Grand Jury, at Spring Assizes, 1852, pursuant to the 8th Section of the Act 6 & 7 Wm. IV., ch. 116, as eligible to be associated with the Justices at Presentment Sessions to be holden previous to Summer Assizes 1852, of whom one-half to be selected by Ballot, will be entitled to sit and vote in their respective Baronies. > > UPPER LOUGHTREE. > > 1. Laurence KENNEDY, Ballyhaise. > > 2. John MOORE, Ballymacarue. > > 3. Robert FEGAN, Swellan. > > 4. James BLACK, Toneymore. > > 5. William CARMICHAEL, Munnery. > > 6. James FEGAN, Annaglough. > > 7. William SCOTT, Clonluscan. > > 8. James WILSON, Butlersbridge. > > 9. James FAY, Cavan. > > 10. James LEE, Latagloghan. > > 11. Thomas HaRTLEY, Countenan. > > 12. Charles KENNY, Tullylough. > > > > LOWER LOUGHTEE. > > 1. David GRIFFITH, the Lodge. > > 2. Francis EBBITT, Drumgart. > > 3. George ARMSTRONG, Quivey. > > 4. Bernard M'DONALD, Caldragh. > > 5. John KELLY, Miltown. > > 6. Thomas CLARKE, Belturbet. > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 9 message/rfc822 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 01:37:58 -0500 From: "Kay Stanton" To: IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess-Payers - April 29, 1852 Let me add a little to the mystery... There was a bottom line that read, "The HIgh Constables of the respective Baronies are required by the Grand Jury to notify to the Cess-payers their nomination as presiding Cess-payers for the ensuing Special Sessions. EDWARD E. MAYNE. Secretary of the Grand Jury April 5th, 1852. It was separated from the list by a line, and I didn't realize it was part of the same article... Sorry. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Marg Andrews" To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess-Payers - April 29, 1852 > A Cess-Payer eh? What or whom is a Cess-Payer? What is Cess? > I am curious to know what they were elected to. What did they vote for? > Were they a sort of jury or judges at the Assizes? > Anyone hazard a guess? > Marg A. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kay Stanton" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:49 PM > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess-Payers - April 29, 1852 > > > > "The Anglo Celt" > > > > Cavan; Thursday, April 29, 1852 > > > LIST OF CESS-PAYERS appointed by the Grand Jury, at Spring Assizes, > 1852, pursuant to the 8th Section of the Act 6 & 7 Wm. IV., ch. 116, as > eligible to be associated with the Justices at Presentment Sessions to be > holden previous to Summer Assizes 1852, of whom one-half to be selected by > Ballot, will be entitled to sit and vote in their respective Baronies. > > > > UPPER LOUGHTREE. > > > > 1. Laurence KENNEDY, Ballyhaise. > > > > 2. John MOORE, Ballymacarue. > > > > 3. Robert FEGAN, Swellan. > > > > 4. James BLACK, Toneymore. > > > > 5. William CARMICHAEL, Munnery. > > > > 6. James FEGAN, Annaglough. > > > > 7. William SCOTT, Clonluscan. > > > > 8. James WILSON, Butlersbridge. > > > > 9. James FAY, Cavan. > > > > 10. James LEE, Latagloghan. > > > > 11. Thomas HaRTLEY, Countenan. > > > > 12. Charles KENNY, Tullylough. > > > > > > > > LOWER LOUGHTEE. > > > > 1. David GRIFFITH, the Lodge. > > > > 2. Francis EBBITT, Drumgart. > > > > 3. George ARMSTRONG, Quivey. > > > > 4. Bernard M'DONALD, Caldragh. > > > > 5. John KELLY, Miltown. > > > > 6. Thomas CLARKE, Belturbet. > > > > > --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online

    02/05/2004 09:37:24
    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess-Payers - April 29, 1852
    2. Neil & Marg Andrews
    3. A Cess-Payer eh? What or whom is a Cess-Payer? What is Cess? I am curious to know what they were elected to. What did they vote for? Were they a sort of jury or judges at the Assizes? Anyone hazard a guess? Marg A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Stanton" <kay-stanton@cfl.rr.com> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:49 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt - Cess-Payers - April 29, 1852 > "The Anglo Celt" > > Cavan; Thursday, April 29, 1852 > LIST OF CESS-PAYERS appointed by the Grand Jury, at Spring Assizes, 1852, pursuant to the 8th Section of the Act 6 & 7 Wm. IV., ch. 116, as eligible to be associated with the Justices at Presentment Sessions to be holden previous to Summer Assizes 1852, of whom one-half to be selected by Ballot, will be entitled to sit and vote in their respective Baronies. > > UPPER LOUGHTREE. > > 1. Laurence KENNEDY, Ballyhaise. > > 2. John MOORE, Ballymacarue. > > 3. Robert FEGAN, Swellan. > > 4. James BLACK, Toneymore. > > 5. William CARMICHAEL, Munnery. > > 6. James FEGAN, Annaglough. > > 7. William SCOTT, Clonluscan. > > 8. James WILSON, Butlersbridge. > > 9. James FAY, Cavan. > > 10. James LEE, Latagloghan. > > 11. Thomas HaRTLEY, Countenan. > > 12. Charles KENNY, Tullylough. > > > > LOWER LOUGHTEE. > > 1. David GRIFFITH, the Lodge. > > 2. Francis EBBITT, Drumgart. > > 3. George ARMSTRONG, Quivey. > > 4. Bernard M'DONALD, Caldragh. > > 5. John KELLY, Miltown. > > 6. Thomas CLARKE, Belturbet. >

    02/05/2004 09:31:21
    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Re: Roll call- GIBNEY
    2. Treehouse
    3. Hello Patrick, My great-grandmother was Margaret GIBNEY. She was supposedly from Co. Caven. She married James MURRAY from Co. Fermanagh. I don't know if there is even a possibility of any connection but I don't see the name GIBNEY come up often. (hardly at all). I don't have a lot of info. on her but I would be interested in knowing more about anyone named GIBNEY. I hope to hear from you soon, Regards Pauline Leonard Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick J. McCann, Jr." <magisterpat@worldnet.att.net> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:03 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Re: Roll call > GIBNEY & McCANN in parishes bordering Castlepollard, Co. Westmeath, > probably Drumlumman South & Kilbride. > -- > Patrick J. McCann, Jr. > Dallas, TX > CRESCIT SUB PONDERE VIRTUS > >

    02/05/2004 08:10:27
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Greacrottagh
    2. Maureen Fitzpatrick
    3. Ok, and I have Fitzpatrick's in Greacrottagh Drung into 1975 -- haven't looked into them. That line starts with Hugh in Drumcalpin 1796 -- married to a Judith (1821 Census). They just HAD to have married a BRADY :-) My cousin Noel Clarke knew them (He's in his 40s). I stand corrected ...there are Bradys here! Edward born Drumcalpin went to Greacrotagh. He had a son Eugene. He's related to "a sister who married a Brady." Ok, Alex Trebeck...the answer is????? Somewhere I have Mary Fay signing a paper -- changed Gen. Programs and lost "witness" recording capabilities. She's related somewhere in there. Up along my cousin Marie's driveway are the Fitzsimmons -- and yes they married into my line :-) Thanks, Mo "Claire F. McCormack" <cmcc@rochester.rr.com> wrote: FOX, Leure/Lear and Turfad townlands, Knockbride parish, 19th century. Married into: COOK (Clifferna) REILLY (Turfad) HIGGINS (Turfad > Phila, USA) COONEY (Killinkere parish) BRADY (Greaghcrotta) MEEHAN (Tonyduff >Derby, England) McCABE (Carrickacrommon > South Dakota, USA) McDERMOTT (Knockbride parish > South Dakota, USA) FITZSIMMONS (Knockbride) FAY " Claire McCormack Web Site: http://home.rochester.rr.com/cfmccormack Maureen Fitzpatrick Cleveland Film Society Phone: 914-712-0414 Fax: 914-712-0415 email: maureen_fitzpatrick@yahoo.com

    02/05/2004 08:04:25
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] Morrow, How, Maguire/McGuire, Ingram, Byers, Magill/McGill & others-1800s>Canada
    2. Dave Ingram
    3. My ancestors from the above families emigrated from Co. Cavan Ireland in 1825-1850 to Ontario. They settled in Durham, Victoria, Peterborough and Haliburton, counties mainly in the following townships; Douro, Dummer, Otonabee, Cavan, Manvers, South Monaghan, Snowden. More ancestors and associated families from Co. Cavan are recorded in the surnames database on my webpages as well as those originally from other areas in Ireland and England. My family file contains information on over 3,300 individuals and over 1100 marriages. If you see any possible connections I'm always happy to share information. Dave Ingram My Genealogy WebPages.......UPDATED 01 February 2004 http://www.my-ged.com/ingram2/ http://www.gencircles.com/users/daveingram http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=713

    02/05/2004 07:56:34
    1. [IRL-CAVAN] FOX
    2. Claire F. McCormack
    3. FOX, Leure/Lear and Turfad townlands, Knockbride parish, 19th century. Married into: COOK (Clifferna) REILLY (Turfad) HIGGINS (Turfad > Phila, USA) COONEY (Killinkere parish) BRADY (Greaghcrotta) MEEHAN (Tonyduff >Derby, England) McCABE (Carrickacrommon > South Dakota, USA) McDERMOTT (Knockbride parish > South Dakota, USA) FITZSIMMONS (Knockbride) FAY " Claire McCormack Web Site: http://home.rochester.rr.com/cfmccormack

    02/05/2004 07:43:07
    1. Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt
    2. Kay Stanton
    3. Thank you, Pat... I'm just one of the typists and I love doing it! I had little conception of what their daily life was like until reading the these transcriptions. It has brought a whole new dimension to my research. I feel especially good when someone actually makes a connection - and it does happen! So keep on reading... Kay Stanton Daytona Beach, Florida USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick O'Sullivan" <pat@ozonline.com.au> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:56 AM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Anglo Celt > Many thanks to those who take the time to type & post these various > articles to this list.. > I've only recently joined & I appreciate the insight they give about how > our ancestors lived... > Cheers... > Pat... > > pat@ozonline.com.au > www.gencircles.com/users/pat-online (updated weekly) > Check out the Cerberus http://home.vicnet.net.au/~cerberus/ there's an > O'Sullivan! (Dominic) > ICQ# 17057235 > PO Box 65A > Armadale, 3143 > Victoria, Australia > > >

    02/05/2004 05:04:41