Hello Looking for information on Michael KIBBER who was a storekeeper when his daughter married in 1851. Any information greatly appreciated. Thanks and regards Debbie Bowdler Motueka, New Zealand

Hello I have just rejoined this list and am hoping someone can help me. I am wanting to know how I would find out infomation about my 3 x great grandparents Ralph MULLIGAN and Mary Anne nee KIBBER. Ralph was the Master of Cavan Union when he married Mary Anne who was the school mistress in 1851. I would also be interested in any information on Cavan workhouse. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks Debbie Bowdler Motueka, New Zealand

ANGLO-CELT JANUARY 5, 1854 FULL Directions for the proper Management of the Wedding Day, including Marriage by License, by Banns, by Registration; Dissenter, Catholic, Quaker, and Gretna Green Marriages, the Expenses, &c. The Bridal Costume; Order of Going to Church, and of Returning Home; Who should propose the Health of the Wedded Pair; Wedding Etiquette; Receipts for Wedding Cakes, &c. &c., and other useful Domestic Information, in the first Volume of "The Family Treasury," price 2s., elegantly bound. Order them of any Bookseller. London: Houlston and Stoneman, 65, Paternoster Row. ===================================================== BIRTH December 30, the wife of Wm. FLEMING jnu. Esq., Richmond, Longford, of a daughter. MARRIED IN Monkstown, Thomas Henry WHITE, Esq., of Orange Hill, county Armagh, to Mary Jane, second daughter of Edw. BARINGTON, Esq., of Fassaroe, county Wicklow. DEATHS January 2, in upper Temple-street, Dublin, Rev. John SWEENY, Rector of Cleenish, in the county Fermanagh. December 31, at Scullalouge, county Wexford, aged 101 years, Mrs. Catherine FURLONG. Of consumption, at his father's residence, Blackford House, Stradbally, Queen's county, on the 25th ult. Mr. Andrew GRAVES, in the twenty first year of his age. December 21 Hardwicke Hospital, Acting-sergeant Charles BYRE (C division), a native of the parish of Wicklow, county Wicklow. On Friday, the 30th ult., at her house in Eaton-place, Elis. Caroline, the fifth daughter of Sir Charles PRICE of Spring Grove, the first baronet. _____________________________________________________________ County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project

ANGLO-CELT JANUARY 5, 1854 TUESDAY Charles KENNY, Thomas GILOOLY, James BROWN, Joseph TREVOR, John DOBSON, Samuel RAMSAY, William PRATT, John M'GINNESS, Thomas KELLET, John BRADY, Samuel PRATT and John M'CORMACK were sworn as a petty jury. Mary HARTIN was charged with stealing an article of wearing apparel at Kilnaleck, on the 29th of October last from Elizabeth CAHILL. Guilty--four months at hard labour. Prisoner--Thank your Worship. Elizabeth TWEEDY and Mary JONES for stealing a shawl at Drum on 15th November last. Acquitted. Edward, Terence, Michael and Patrick REILLY for an assault on Thomas KING, at Cormeen, so as to endanger his life, and in another count for a riot and common assault on 11th October. Thomas FLEMING examined by MR. B. ARMSTRONG--Recollects 11th October, had a farm then, which he held for 27 years, on the lands of Shanoro, has a lease of the farm, no right of pass through it, the prisoners came on his land that day; they are brothers, whose farm adjoins witnesses (sic). Heard in the morning of prisoners breaking down his mearling, went and remonstrated with them, and proceeded to break down the kish they made. Edward REILLY then kicked witness and knocked out a tooth. His sons, Thomas and John, went to save witness, when Michael and Terence commenced to choke him, and Patrick gave him a box in the face; they drew the hay back, and the following lay, though they could have drawn it a nearer way through their own large farm. Cross-examined by Mr. James ARMSTRONG--Some REILLYs had a pass through the meadow, prisoners passed through it for two previous years, when witness was in Scotland. They are in possession three years. Neither MALDEN, the previous possessor, nor Philip REILLY before him, had a quiet pass by that way. The Barrister ordered them to be acquitted, as it was a case of trespass, to be tried by a civil action. James KELAHER for intimidating a juror for a verdict he had given. John JOHNSTON proved the threat. His Worship ordered him to plead guilty, and then decreed that he should find bail himself in ten pounds, and two sureties of five pounds each, to keep the peace for seven years, and on a breach of it to be imprisoned for a month. Michael RIELLY(sic) for stealing bacon at Butler's Bridge, on 9th October last. Guilty--one month hard labour. This terminated the Crown business. WEDNESDAY JOhn KING v. MIchael KING. An action for 9l., the value of a mare lent to defendant, which he surfeited by over-riding, so that she died. The plaintiff proved the loan, and the subsequent death of the mare. Cross-examined by Mr. Cochrane--Gave no notice of the illness of the mare until after she died. Pat MARTIN proved to seeing MIchael KING galloping along the road at a hard rate on the mare. MR. ________,farrier, proved that the mare died of lumps in the throat, which might have been brought on by a surfeit, caused by harding riding. Michael KING--Your Worship, I'll tell you all. Court--Indeed you will not. Did you walk her? Witness--I did, going Court--Coming home? Witness--I came faster then. I met Pat MARTIN, and I had a bit of a canter with him. To MR. KNIPE--I was hearty in Swanlinbar; my stirrup-leather was broke, and the mare began to caper, and the police took me into custody; but the mare went gently home with a neighbour's boy. MR. KNIPE--Were you not carried off the mare? Witness--Wasn't I? Why would I not, when there were three of them at me? Court--Go home, sir. Let there be a decree taken for the full amount. MALONE and wife v. Philip REILLY, Rose REILLY, and others. Actions for certain sums of money, arrears of rent due by the defendants. It appeared that in 1851, the parties had been seized on by order of t he Court of Chancery, for sums due by them as tenants on the Lanauze property. Having no means of removing the distress, they applied to the plaintiffs, (Mrs. MALONE being the widow of the late Mr. LANAUZE) and they gave them up their property, getting a consent in writing that a decree for the amount should issue without stay of execution, when it should please Mr. and Mrs. MALONE to look for it. For these sums the several actions were now brought. MR. Edward M'GAURAN having proved by witnesses the occupation by the defendants, and also the consents given by the respectively, and the circumstances in which they were given. MR. KNIPE, MR. James ARMSTRONG, and Mr. TULLY, for the various defendants, argued in defence that the plaintiffs had promised, when getting the consents, that they would not act on them for twenty years. Mr. Charles MALONE was called up to prove this. Sworn--Is one of the plaintiffs; did not remove the distress to "create a tenancy to himself, but to save defendants;" did not promise not to act upon the consents for twenty years; had given them three years to pay him, and in the mean time gave to each an abatement of five shillings in the pound; is not now in possession of the property, but it is as much his as ever it was, there being a life interest and a jointure payable off it, which is more than the value of the entire estate. Court--This is the most extraordinary case I ever met. Here is a benefactor in the moment of great trouble; he gives them the use of their property, that they were unable to give themselves, asks not to be paid for three years, and makes an abatement on the rents for the future, of twenty-five per cent, and now they come forward and say we will not pay you what, but for you, our goods would have paid for three years ago, because you gave us not twenty years to pay it. Why not ask a hundred years. The defendants have no case; let them go home. Decrees were granted, with certain deductions in one case or two, which Mr. MALONE, as soon as he was assured of them showed himself most ready to allow. [There is a landlord-right as well as tenant-right; and in its cause we must say that, as the facts came out in evidence, and beyound this we know nothing in the matter, Mr. MALONE's case was a clear example of it. Give us to see every landlord doing as he did--removing a distress, and asking at the end of three years what was distrained for, giving in the interval a very large abatement that there might be gathered the means to pay him, and we will say, agitation be at rest; tenant right is secured by the best of all enactments--the promptings of honesty and generosity.-- Ed. A.C.] MOORE v. BROWN. An action of 40l. for damage sustained by a seizure effected in Cavan under a civil bill decree. MR. SWANZY stated the case. The seizure was a most adroit and nefarious trick. The defendant in the decree was the brother of the present defendant, and married to the plaintiff's mother, by whom had had not alone support provided for him but the comfort of an amiable wife. This did not satisfy him, but by a trick he induced the present defendant to get out a friendly decree against him in Ballyconnell, not in Cavan, lest the mother of the children would know if it and provide for the children's property against it; Mrs. BROWN had nothing whatever of her own; all belonged to her children by the will of her late husband. Mrs. BROWN examined by Mr. SWANZY--All the property seized under the decree belonged to her children and was bought with their money, that came into them from certain houses in Cavan. Witness forfeited all her property by marrying again, which she foolishly did. But has a good pair of hands. Court--Perhaps they are too good. Cross examined by Mr. ARMSTRONG--All the furniture that she had at her husband's death was said to Mr. MONTGOMERY. The furniture seized on was bought with Samuel MOORE's money. Samuel was her son. Samuel MOORE corrobated this; he always allowed...(remainder of article cut off) End of Cavan Quarter Session _____________________________________________________________ County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project

"The Anglo Celt" Cavan; Thursday, August 26, 1852 THE CAMP AT SIX-MILE-BRIDGE. - The camp was removed in an incredibly short time after the verdict on Wednesday evening. The soldiers of the 31st Regiment, found guilty of wilful (sic) murder, were given up to Sub-Inspector DONOVAN and a party of police, and, accompanied by an escort of the 47th Regiment, were marched to Ennis gaol, which they reached about midnight. Passing through Newcastle, they were heartily groaned by the people, who assembled in crowds in that village, and appeared well pleased with the verdict. Mr. KELLY, of Cappagh Lodge, receives £30 compensation for use of his demesne by the camp for the seventeen days it was occupied by the military. The cost of the entire investigation will be little short of £500, not including the expenses of the camp. No injury, we understand, has been done to the ground on which the tnets were pitched. - Limerick Reporter. MR. JOHN C. DELMEGE. - Various rumours have been afloat within the last few days regarding this gentleman; some stated that he had fled to the continent, and would not appear till the spring assizes. The fact, however, we are told is, that Mr. Delmege wrote to Mr. CANNY, the coroner of Clare, stating his readiness to become amenable to the law and proceed to Ennis gaol, provided an escort was obtained for him, as it is dangerous, in his estimation, to go through the country in the present state of the public mind. A requisition to Mr. BARRON, R.M., was this (Friday) forwarded for an escort, and twelve of 3rd Dragoon Guards were accordingly sent, as we have been informed; and accompanied by them, and some of the constabulary, Mr. Delmege left Whitehall the residence of his father, about half-past three o'clock this day, for Ennis gaol. - Limerick Reporter. THE MULLINGAR AND CAVAN RAILWAY. - G. R. BOYCE, Esq., who has been for some time the resident engineer for the Railway Company at Athlone, and under whose superintencence the new line of road and approach to the company's station has been made, has been appointed Engineer upon the proposed new line from Mullingar to Cavan. - Westmeath Independent.

"The Anglo Celt" Cavan; Thursday, August 26, 1852 THE AFFRAY WITH THE MILITARY AT SIX-MILE-BRIDGE - VERDICT OF "WILFUL" MURDER. The chief witness for the defence has been Lieut. HUTTON, who is an officer of considerable experience, having taken an active part in four general engagements in India. He says that when the military arrived at Six-mile-bridge, they were received with hooting, groaning and stone-throwing. This last operation proceeded continuously. The mob pressed on the party. The officer endeavoured to remonstrate with them, but this only made bad worse. Father BURKE came up to the cars and said, "Oh, my God! To see those of our own religion, our flesh and blood, treated as convicts!" Volleys of stones accompanied this exclamation. The stone-throwing became so violent that Lieut. Hutton was compelled to face his men about and drive back the people at the bayonet's point. As soon as the charge was over, the mob returned to the attack. About this time the front rank was entangled in the lane, where the fire appears to have taken place. One shot was heard in this lane, and th! en another, and others followed in rapid succession. Three of the soldiers near Lieut. Hutton were lying upon the ground. This officer distinctly swore that the lives of his party and of the voters were in the most imminent danger. His men said to him, "will you allow us to be murdered without firing?" At this moment a number of people rushed past from the front, and Lieut. Hutton, feeling that their flight would create a panic in the rear steadily refused permission to fire. Captain EAGAR swore that, but for the musketry, the affair would have ended in the disarmament and murder of the military party. Capt. Eagar swore, that in the midst of the affray, Father Burke dashed past right before him, with a whip in his hand, in a state of great excitement, as though impelling the mob to rescue the voters from the cars. One of the soldiers deposed that he was compelled to push away Father Burke from the cars, and he called on the people to drag them out. The Court sat at half-past ten o'clock this morning, when The Coroner resumed the reading of the depositions to the jury. This occupied the Court up to two o'clock. Mr. GRAYDON - Now, Mr. Coroner be good enough to tell the jury to take each case separately by itself, so that there may be separate findings. The Coroner - I intended that from the first; if that were not the case we would have only one inquest. Mr. Graydon - And I also call upon you to direct as to identity, and the non-liability of one party for the act of another. The Coroner then proceeded to charge the jury. He said - Gentlemen of the jury, I deeply regret that it has not fallen to my lot to be a person of greater legal experience, in order in some way to relieve your minds of the care and anxiety, which I know you all feel, as the time approaches when you are to decide when, where, how, and by what means the parties named came by their death. Yesterday the tediousness of this protracted inquiry was relieved for nearly four hours by the able and impassioned address of Mr. Gradyon and Mr. COFFEY. They addressed you in a style of eloquence that has been rarely excelled in the highest courts of justice in the land; but, gentlemen, you are not to be led away by any such address from the calm and dispassionate consideration of all the circumstances of this most serious and important inquiry. The coroner's jury is, in fact, a grand jury, and the general result of their verdict is to put the case in course of trial; it is not a f! inal determination of the guilt or innocence of the parties charged. The jury should inquire into and find the cause of the death of the several parties, and by whose hands occasioned. As to these particulars it will be probably found that there is no real controversy; but the jury should further inquire under what circumstances the parties severally lost their lives, and the result of that investigation may be to lead to a verdict of murder, manslaughter, of justifiable homicide against or in favour of some of the parties charged. Now, as to the law of the case. When one man kills another, the act is prima facie, felonious, and amounts to murder, unless the homicide took place under such a state of facts as would in law amount to a justification or excuse, or under such recent provocation as would reduce it to manslaughter. Where the death of one man has been occasioned by the agency of another, the law presumes it to be murder unless circumstances appear which reduce ! it to manslaughter, or amount to a justification. Murder is the malicious killing of another, and malice may be either expressed as for instance where the party charged indicates beforehand his intention to commit the felonious act, or implied from the circumstances of the case, or from the fact alone of taking life without justification or excuse. The law infers malice whenever human life is taken without just cause or provocation, and a wanton disregard of the life of another may, under the circumstances, be evidence of malice. Manslaughter is when a person takes the life of another under circumstances of provocation so fresh and strong as he could not be fairly considered the master of his own judgement (sic) or the guide of his own actions; as, for instance, where one receives a wound or a severe blow, and instantly in the heat of passion, avenges it by striking in return, and kills his adversary. The provocation in that case would rebut the inference of malice. The learned gentleman proceeded with his remarks at great length, laying down the law affecting the case clearly and forcibly. When he had concluded the jury retired to the room shortly before three o'clock, and at twenty minutes to five o'clock they caused it to be announced in open court that twelve of their number had agreed to a verdict. At this time the court was densly (sic) crowded, and the utmost anxiety was evinced to learn the result of this most protracted inquiry. The jury having come into court, the foreman announced that twelve of the jurors had agreed to a particular finding, and they resolved to have the verdict drawn up in a legal form. The coroner then read the finding as follows:- "We are satisfied that John C. DELMEGE, J. P., Jno. GLEESON (first), James POSTINGS, William BARNES, John THOMPSON, John DWYER, James SHARPE, Thos. CLARKE, and John CARTER, soldiers of the 31st Regiment, are guilty of the 'Wilful (sic) murder of Jeremiah FRAWLEY." Mr. William M'MAHON said he was one of five jurors who did not agree to that verdict. He considered the soldiers were culpable, and those who thought with him were for a verdict of manslaughter. The other issues, as to the deaths of Michael CONNELLAN, Michael COLEMAN, Thomas RYAN, James CASEY, and JAMES FLAHERTY, were then severally given into the jury, and a similar verdict of "Wilful (sic) murder" was returned upon each, against Mr. Delmege and the soldiers. On application of counsel, the coroner signed his warrant for committal of the soldiers, and they were transmitted to Ennis gaol in the evening. The coroner also signed his warrant for the apprehension and committal of Mr. John C. DELMEGE, who was not in the court during the day. The proceedings then terminated. The demise of Mrs. SHEIL, relict of the late Right Hon. Richard Sheil, has followed, after a brief interval, her distinguished husband. The lamented lady, who was borne down, by family sorrows, expired at Leghorn on the 4th instant. Her remains will be brought over for interment, and placed alongside those of the illustrious deceased in the retired churchyard of Templetuchy, county Tipperary. County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project

ANGLO-CELT JANUARY 5, 1854 CAVAN QUARTER SESSIONS (continued) MIchael DOLAN was indicted for a riot, but on application, the Court sentenced him to three months imprisonment at hard labour, the sentence to be put in execution, when it would be thought proper to call upon him; that is, when the prisoner shall have been guilty of a similar offence again. Patrick TRACY was indicted for picking a woman's pocket in Ballyconnell. He was found guilty, and sentenced to three months imprisonment without whipping, as there was no evidence of any previous offence by him. The prisoner thanked his Worship. Charles M'CAFFREY was indicted for a similar offence. MIchael KING got the prisoner's hand in his pocket. Mr. ARMSTRONG--Did you see him? How could I find his hand in my pocket unless I saw him. Was it dark? It was betwixt and between, what more do you want to know about it? MR. ARMSTRONG--I''ll send you over to Mr. KNIPE, you need not be angry with me. Cross-examined by Mr. KNIPE--Drank two half ones this morning. On the day in question took plenty, won't say how much before the prisoner took his money. Did not search the shop for the money. Blood-and- thunder-and'ouns must I give an account of all I drank, I was not drunk then, are you drunk now? Well, then, neither am I. To prisoner--Didn't take anything off the ground, nor search it for money when I missed it; others did it for me. The witness was certainly the most lubricous specimen of irascibility we ever saw. John Park, Sub-Constable--Saw KING on the night in question, he was not drunk, but he was through other, in explanation, he was "mul- wathered," he was a companion of TRACY, and should share his fate. Patrick BRADY was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury, committed at last Cavan Sessions, in a civil bill action pending between him and George L'ESTRANGE, Esq. Mr. Benjamin ARMSTRONG stated the case--The prisoner stands indicted for a grievous offence. Last October sessions he had a process against Mr. L'ESTRANGE for loss and damage sustained by a cow bought at Mr. L'ESTRANGE's auction, which came not up to the engagement. A jury was empanelled to decide the issue. It appeared that the cow was sold by BRADY to Bernard WALLS in Cavan. The prisoner was produced to prove his case, and stated his purchase of the cow first, and his selling it to Bernard WALLS for seven pounds. More than once he was asked how much he got for the cow, and still he persisted in saying that he got only seven pounds. This was that the jury might consider him entitled to more damages, than if he got a larger price. But it turned out that the cow was sold for thirteen pounds. WALL proved this; he had given seven pounds and promised six more. WALLS will tell you that before the trial of the civil bill, he offered the six pounds to BRADY more than once, which he refused as often, BRADY then shifted his ground and deliberately swore that he sold the cow for thirteen pounds. This is the case that will be proved before you, and, if I am rightly instructed, you will have it substantiated that he was guilty of deliberate, corrupt, and wilful perjury. MR. Patrick CAFFREY examined by Mr. Benjamin ARMSTRONG--Is Deputy Clerk of the Peace, finds in his book the entry of "BRADY v. L'ESTRANGE" for breach of warranty of a cow. A jury was sworn. Messrs. Edward PLUNKET, Edward KENNEDY, and Henry NESBIT were to try it. Patrick BRADY was sworn on that trial, the oath being adminis- tered in the ordinary way, produces a memorandum, which he took down at the time by direction of the Court; it appeared by that that BRADY swore he sold the cow for seven pounds, and afterwards swore he sold it for thirteen and that he did not swear before that he sold it for seven. To MR. COCHRANE--Will not swear positively that no other witness was examined at that trial but those he has in his record, but to the best of his recollection there were not others. Edward PLUNKETT examined by Mr. B. ARMSTRONG--Was one of the jurors in the civil bill case; recollects BRADY being asked the price of the cow, and he answered "seven pounds" as well as I can recollect. Is not sure whether it was "seven" or "eight" he said. That question was put, that it might be seen how much should be given in damages. To MR. M'GAURAN--Took down a memorandum of what then occurred in writing, and has it not now. MR. M'GAURAN then objected to this evidence, as he had not the paper with him. The Court over-ruled the objection. Mr. M'GAURAN then objected that when, by direction of the Court, a memorandum was made, it was not competent afterwards to give oral testimony on the matter. This, too, was over-ruled by the Court. Examination resumed--After WALLS had given his testimony, BRADY admitted that he sold the cow for thirteen pounds, or thirteen pounds five. Cross-examined by Mr. Edw. M'GAURAN--What (illegible)... George CHADWICK. Sold the cow, gave an engagement according to the herd's book that she was served to calve at a certain time, also that she was a good dairy cow with a defect in one of her teats; recollects SMYTH offering seven pounds for the cow about three weeks after the auction; SMYTH was buying her at the auction; she brought 8l. 20s. there. Cross-examine by B. ARMSTRONG--There was no sale to SMYTH when he offered seven pounds for the cow; did not hear at the sessions BRADY swearing anything about the case. Thomas REILLY--Knows BRADY about seven years employed him in the mean time; had all confidence in him. To MR. B. ARMSTRONG--thinks his general character a good one. Rev. T. MULVANY deposed to the same effect. He knew the prisoner for the last five years; his general character is that of a businesslike honest man. Theophilus THOMPSON, Esq.--Knew the prisoner four or five years; never heard anything against him; had frequent opportunities of seeing him at court of petty sessions, when he came in his capacity of collector of county cess and poor's rate. This closed the case for the defence. His Worship then proceeded to charge the jury, and said--Gentlemen of the jury--Brady is charged with perjury, an offence so admirably described by MR. M'GAURAN. In such a case the jury should have a moral certainty of the guilt of the accused before they would find him guilty. On the other side all are bound to punish such a crime if they see it proved. There is no security to life or property if an oath is not creditable. He who takes away life by false swearing is an assassin; he who takes away property by such a means is a robber. You must be satisfied that the statement charged was false--that it was corruptly false--that it was done with deliberation, for all these constituents are required to the perfection of the charge. Perjury differs in many respects from other crimes. It cannot be proved directly. An assault or a robbery can be proved by positive evidence., but perjury must be deduced from the facts stated. You are to infer whether BRADY does appear to you by fair inference to have the evil intention. Those things laid down, I must tell you that the stating the price the cow was sold for was most material to the trial of the Civil Bill; by it the jury were to measure their damages. A man equivocating is still a perjurer, and therefore the word "got" is the same as the word "said" a thing I would call your attention to, as much stress seem to have been laid upon it. You have, therefore, to consider the evidence of Mr. PLUNKETT. He conveyed to us that he sold the cow for a certain sum. WALLS is met by the prisoner, (and this presses must strongly on him) something is said to him going to give his evidence about seven pounds. Why communicate with a man going to be sworn? You must ask yourselves, was not this an attempt to tamper with WALLS, that his deceit might not be seen through. He has a good character, and besides the defence that he was speaking all the time of an offer by SMYTH of seven pounds. What had that to do with the case? What had an offer to do with the sale. The prisoner is a person of intelligence, and Mr. M'G. argued reasonable upon this matter. This, too, was over-ruled by the Court. Examination resumed--After WALLS had given his testimony, BRADY admitted that he sold the cows for thirteen pounds, or thirteen pounds five. (Repetitive discussion) After much deliberation, a verdict of guilty was pronounced, with a recommendation to mercy. Sentence--Six months' imprisonment at hard labour. Richard GIBSON was indicted for assaulting, on the 16th of December, Head Constable HOPWOOD, and Sub-Constable Michael WELSH, in the execution of their duty, and in another count for a common assault. Hugh BRADY, James BROWN, John MAGINNESS, Thomas M'DOWALL, Martin BEATTY, Mathew BOYLAN, Andrew REILLY, James BRADY, Thomas M'CORMACK, William MAGINNISS and William MAGUIRE were sworn as a petty jury. Wm. ARMSTRONG examined by Mr. HAMILTON--Was in Ar\vagh in MAGUIRE's public house on the 16th December, there was a row there; GIBSON was in the house, he said he would kick any man in Arvagh; witness said he had bad conduct; prisoner ran at him, pulled him by the neck and struck him with a whip. In consequence of the row, the police were sent for, and arrested him. MIchael MURPHY examined by Mr. HAMILTON--Went to MAGUIRE's house, took GIBSON into custody there was no riot at the time; saw prisoner do nothing to any head-constable or other persons; witness was the first that went in. Cross-examined by MR. KNIPE--The magistrates in Arvagh dismissed ARMSTRONG's case when he summoned GIBSON. To a juror--There were four of us bringing GIBSON to the barrack, he complained of bad treatment; witness had him by the neck; saw no assault committed at all, but if any was committed it must have been on the way to the barrack. Court--I think the constable 'had no right' to arrest GIBSON. If he saw a riot, he should have taken the disturbers before a magistrate, but on private information of assault, he could not take any man into custody. There is an excellent book on the subject of their duty, compiled by an eminent lawyer, which the constabulary all ought to have explained to them, and it would teach them what they were to do. He directed the jury to acquit the prisoner, who was acquitted accordingly. Two women, ARMSTRONG and DUFFY, were indicted for stealing goods from Mr. KANE of Ballyconnel, but from the want of evidence they were acquitted. His Worship having admonished them, they were discharged. Pete CASSIDY was indicated for burglary, and having goods in his possession, knowing them to be stolen. He pleaded guilty to the having goods in his possession, and was sentenced to three month's imprisonment with hard labour. Larry M'GIVNEY and two others were indicted for stealing turf from Ballyjamesduff. They were in gaol since September last, for a quantity, value three pence at most. His Worship ordered them to be found guilty, and on the verdict to that effect being returned, they were sentenced to 24 hours' imprisonment, from the first day of the sessions. Francis WARD was indicated for stealing a few articles of wearing apparel from Mary BRESLIN at Arvagh. He was convicted. Mr. GALLOGLY stated that he was convicted ten times, and whipped five times; he is about nine years of age. He was sentenced to a penal servitude of four years. Thomas M'GAGHRAN was indicted for a rape on Anne CONOLLY, an infant, under ten years in Ballyhaise. Verdict--Guilty of the connection, to which the prosecutrix was a consenting party. (to be continued) ____________________________________________________________ County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project

Hi Todd Thanks for your interesting and informative post on the meaning of Celt. What I wonder was the Greeks name for themselves? I t seems to be a common thread that languages use the word "man" for the locals (Inuit, Maori) and Stranger (pakeha in maori) for everyone else, and probably a short step from stranger to enemy or target. Think of our own language, "man" and if a new race arrived from space "alien", with all the conotations attached. It would seem that we are probably insulting the memory of those people long ago by using the word Celt to describe peoples with different racial backgrounds and cultures, some of whom would have been at war with the others. Try going to the English borders today, call someone English when they are Scots, or Welsh when they are English and you will receive a very snippy reply! I always thought of the Celts as being a stocky, dark skinned and haired people like the modern day Welsh and Cornish until I read a description of Celts as a tall germanic people with fair skin, red/blonde hair, the typical Sandy haired Scot. No doubt the cultural differences were as great as the appearances. Of course we have only a few accounts left to us of the customs of these people and much of that is Roman propaganda and the archaeological evidence is difficult to decipher. A thought, should we in fact, call the modern days people living in Ireland Irish when they are descended from so many different backgrounds both racially and culturally? Should we be inclusive in these politically correct days in order to try and mend the arguements of the past or should we acknowledge the fact that the history of Ireland (and most other countires ) has in fact been shaped by continual invasion, migration and intermarriage? Shouldn't we recognise and celebrate the differences in order to understand the past better while acknowledging that we all need to rub along together and that past misdeeds are just that... in the past? regards Jane Pearson jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Lyons" <sniliaghin@iol.ie> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:45 AM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Roman Catholic Parish records - what is available > Antrim, Armagh, Carlow, Cavan, Clare, Donegal, Down, GAlway, Kilkenny, > Laois, Mayo, Meath and Offaly > > National Library of Ireland film numbers, Public Records Office Northern > Ireland and Latter Day Saints Family History film numbers - where-ever > applicable. > > Extracts of records in some cases, information on what lewis had to say > about the R.C. parish - how it fitted in to the civil parish in 1837, or > comments on condition of the records > > Jane > > http://www.from-ireland.net/parishrecords/coindparrecs.htm > > > ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== > For the IRL-CAVAN-L archives, go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/IRL-CAVAN >

Did I miss somethimng here, What is all this about Snow white?????? Surely trhis was a folk tale collected by either the Brothers Grimm or Hans Cristain Andersen both of which would put the story firmly in continental Europe and have nothing whatsoever to do with Ireland. And waht is the source for all the quasi biblical stuff? Is this email just a wind up? Jane Pearson jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: <CARADOC28@aol.com> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] St Pats Day > In a message dated 3/17/2004 2:25:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, donalk@iol.ie > writes: > > > > I think you neglected to mention Snow White, who as a precursor to St. > > Bridgid. Snow White, her given name has been lost through the ages, was so > > called because of her sanctity and purity. The name identified her with her > > mission to rid the Isle of its association with the black arts, signified by > > the ugly wicked queen, who is always portrayed wearing black. > > Because the Celtic Church was presided over by both Druids and Druidesses > > Snow White was easily accepted. > > Just as was to reoccur in Penal times Catholicism was a proscribed faith and > > proponents had to travel in various disguises. > > It is no surprise to those who have studied the history of the faith in > > Ireland that the 7 dwarfs (vertically challenged gentlemen) didn't spent all > > their time mining. They moonlighted as priests. The wicked witch who was > > jealous of Snow White and her success in her quest to christianise Ireland > > was determined to frustrate her crusade. Just as Christ was tempted in the > > desert, so too was Snow White. The poisoned apple is very symbolic, remember > > the garden of Eden. Snow White wrestled with the temptation, but did not > > succumb. The apples effects were transitory and did not immobilise her > > permanently. > > > > Now here is the Glastonbury link. > > > > The prince who woke Snow White from her sleep was none other than Caradoc > > son of Bran a Selerian King from Britain, who supported Snow White in her > > endeavours and gave her the renewed vigour she needed to continue her > > mission. His kiss is significant being as it is the antithesis of the Judas > > kiss in the garden of Gethsemane. > > > > > > no some guy in green the "green lantern " said snakles be gone to no snakes > and they left and christian people became pagans and killable much like > american indians were killable because they were savages. > Mr.McManus's book relates the story of the milesians and moses in his 3rd > chapter page 8 thus his scholorship is as good here as later > itis church history verses fables which you buy. Maybe the document the 29th > chaper of acts would be better for you to understand > a real i stress real archeology document found and published by a frenchman > who didnt want england to get anything good > > > 1- And Paul, full of the blessings of Christ, and abounding in the spirit, > departed out of Rome, determining to go into Spain, for he had a long time > proposed to journey thitherward, and was minded also to go from thence to > Britain. > 2- For he had heard in Phoenicia that certain of the children of Israel, > about the time of the Assyrian captivity, had escaped by sea to "The Isles > afar off" as spoken be the Prophet [Esdra], and called by the Romans - > Britain. > 3- And the Lord commanded the gospel to be preached far hence to the > Gentiles [nations], and to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. > [Act 9:15, 22:21] > 4- And no man hindered Paul; for he testified boldly of Jesus before the > tribunes and among the people; and he took with him cetain of the brethren > which abode with him at Rome, and they took shipping at Ostrium and having > the winds fair, were brought safely into a haven of Spain. > 5- And much people were gathered together from the towns and villages, and > the hill country; for they had heard of the conversion to the Apostle, and > the many miracles which he had wrought. > 6- And Paul preached mightily in Spain, and great multitudes believed and > were converted, for they perceived he was an apostle sent from God. > 7- And they departed out of Spain, and Paul and his company finding a ship > in Armorica sailing unto Britain, they were therein, and passing along the > south Coast, they reached a port called Raphinus. * > 8- Now when it was voiced abroad that the Apostle had landed on their coast, > great multitudes of the inhabitants met him, and they treated Paul courteously > and he entered in at the east gate of their city, and lodged in the house of > an Hebrew and one of his own nation. > 9- And on the morrow he came and stood upon Mount Lud^ and the > people thronged at the gate, and assembled in the Broadway, and he preached > Christ unto them, and they believed the Word and the testimony of Jesus. > 10- And at even the Holy Ghost fell upon Paul, and he prophesied, saying, > Behold in the last days the God of Peace shall dwell in the cities, and the > inhabitants thereof shall be numbered and in the seventh numbering of the people, > their > eyes shall be opened ** > and the glory of their inheritance shine forth before them.The nations shall > come up to worship on the mount the testifieth of the patience and long > suffering of a servant of the Lord. > 11- And in the latter days new tidings of the Gospel shall issue forth out of > Jerusalem, and the hearts of the people shall rejoice, and behold, fountains > shall be opened, and there shall be no more plague. > 12- In those days there shall be wars and rumours of war; and a king shall > rise up, and his sword, shall be for the healing of the nations, and his > peacemaking shall abide, and the glory of his kingdom a wonder among princes. > 13- And it came to pass that certain of the Druids came unto Paul privately, > and showed by their rites and ceremonies they were descended from the Jews *** > which escaped from bondage in the land of Egypt, and the apostle > believed these things, and he gave them the kiss of peace. > 14- And Paul abode in his lodgings three months confirming in the faith and > preaching Christ continually. > 15- And after these things Paul and his brethren departed from Raphinus and > sailed unto Atium in Gaul. > 16- And Paul preached in the Roman garrison and among the people, exhorting > all men to repent and confess their sins. > 17- And there came to him certain of the Belgae to enquire of him of the new > doctrine, and of the man Jesus; And Paul opened his heart unto them and told > them all things that had befallen him, howbeit, that Christ Jesus came into the > world to save sinners; and they departed pondering among themselves upon the > things which they had heard. > 18- And after much preaching and toil, Paul and his fellow labourers passed > into Helvetia, and came to Mount Pontius Pilate, where he who condemned the > Lord Jesus dashed himself down headlong, and so miserably perished. > 19- Immediately a torrent gushed out of the mountain and washed his body, > broken in pieces, into a lake. ****Selah! > 20- And Paul stretched forth his hands upon the water, and prayed unto the > Lord, saying O Lord God, give a sign unto all nations that here Pontius Pilate > which condemned thine only-begotten son, plunged down headlong into the pit. > 21- And while Paul was yet speaking, behold, there came a great earthquake, > and the face of the waters was changed, and the form of the lake like unto the > Son of Man hanging in an agony upon the Cross. > 22- And a voice came out of heaven saying, Even Pilate hath escaped the wrath > to come for he washed his hands before the multitude at the > blood-shedding of the Lord Jesus > 23- When, therefore, Paul and those that were with him saw the earthquake, > and heard the voice of the angel, they glorified God, they were mightily > strengthened in the spirit. > 24- And they journeyed and came to Mount Julius where stood two pillars, one > on the right hand and one on the left hand, erected by Caesar Augustus. > 25- And paul, filled with the Holy Ghost, stood up between the two pillars, > saying, Men and brethren these stones which ye see this day shall testify of my > journey hence; and verily I say, they shall remain until the outpouring of > the spirit upon all nations, neither shall the way be hindered throughout all > generations. > > 26- And they went forth and came unto Illtricum, intending to go by > Macedonia into Asia, and grace was found in all the churches, and they > prospered and had peace. Amen! > *(This is the Roman name for Sandwich, in Kent. In Saxon times there was, > still standing in Sandwich, and old house called the "House of the Apostles: and > tradition has it that Paul was one of the Apostles). > > ^(Ludgate Hill and Broadway where St. Paul's Cathedral stands in London, > England) > ~(this first-ever census in England, prophesied in this > ancient manuscript, was taken in 1801): > **(this "punishment" would include ignorance of their heritage), > ***[Judahites] > ****[ See. It was known in Palestine and Aisia Minor thatPilate had committed > suicide all the way over in Switzerland ! ! Neither Paul or Luke had been > there when Pontius Pulled the Plug.] > > Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinnin g- > carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mch ug > h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop ,M > a.-sprague- and ever growing list > Jim Denning > > > > > > > ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list click on > mailto:IRL-CAVAN-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or > mailto:IRL-CAVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) >

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Sorry kevin I took your holiday wishes in the spirit in which they were intended, but it DOES look like propaganda to me, it all looks so well, saintly doesn't it, the horrible barbarity of people before and the wonderful sanctity afterwards, when as I'm sure we all know, people have always been people whatever their religion, some of em are nice and some of em are seriously NOT nice. And that McMalley passage just sticks in my throat, I'm afraid I can't believe in it. The holiday wishes are appreciated . regards Jane Pearson jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz

hmm , sounds like a bit of propaganda to me , the wonderful benfits of christianity etc etc. I bet they took those wonderful benefits and converted people by use of the sword (rusty or not) Much christian conversion was done by force. When exactly WAS ST pat anyway? and we'd better not go into the "benefits" of modern Irish Christianity again. Jane Pearson jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin O'Malley" <brerkev@yahoo.com> To: <IRL-CAVAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:18 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] St Pats Day > > Wishing all blessings on this Holy day in honor of one of the world's great evangelists, Saint Patrick. > > "...we contrast two widely different natures of the Irish people who before Patrick were carrying the ruthless law of the sword far over sea and land, and that very different Irish people who, after Patrick, left the conquering sword to be eaten by rust, while they went far and wide again over sea and land, bearing now to the nations - both neighboring and far off - the healing balm of Christ's gentle words. All histories of all countries probably could not disclose to the most conscientious searcher another instance of such radical change in a whole nations character being wrought within the lifespan of one man." > > ----Seumas MacManus, The Story of the Irish Race. > > > Kevin O'Malley and family > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > > ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== > For the IRL-CAVAN-L archives, go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/IRL-CAVAN >

Jane, Thanks, I guess we all wish that the world could be as simple and clear cut as that passage makes it to be. Take care, Kevin J T Pearson Outdoor Training <jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz> wrote: Sorry kevin I took your holiday wishes in the spirit in which they were intended, but it DOES look like propaganda to me, it all looks so well, saintly doesn't it, the horrible barbarity of people before and the wonderful sanctity afterwards, when as I'm sure we all know, people have always been people whatever their religion, some of em are nice and some of em are seriously NOT nice. And that McMalley passage just sticks in my throat, I'm afraid I can't believe in it. The holiday wishes are appreciated . regards Jane Pearson jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== For the IRL-CAVAN-L archives, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/IRL-CAVAN Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

Gee, I did mention that I know about some of the darker sides of church history. It was, however, as much as you might not like to admit, not all by force. I guess I'd better not wish any body except Ann on this list any more well holiday wishes if this is the result. Kevin J T Pearson Outdoor Training <jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz> wrote: hmm , sounds like a bit of propaganda to me , the wonderful benfits of christianity etc etc. I bet they took those wonderful benefits and converted people by use of the sword (rusty or not) Much christian conversion was done by force. When exactly WAS ST pat anyway? and we'd better not go into the "benefits" of modern Irish Christianity again. Jane Pearson jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin O'Malley" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:18 PM Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] St Pats Day > > Wishing all blessings on this Holy day in honor of one of the world's great evangelists, Saint Patrick. > > "...we contrast two widely different natures of the Irish people who before Patrick were carrying the ruthless law of the sword far over sea and land, and that very different Irish people who, after Patrick, left the conquering sword to be eaten by rust, while they went far and wide again over sea and land, bearing now to the nations - both neighboring and far off - the healing balm of Christ's gentle words. All histories of all countries probably could not disclose to the most conscientious searcher another instance of such radical change in a whole nations character being wrought within the lifespan of one man." > > ----Seumas MacManus, The Story of the Irish Race. > > > Kevin O'Malley and family > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > > ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== > For the IRL-CAVAN-L archives, go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/IRL-CAVAN > ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list click on mailto:IRL-CAVAN-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or mailto:IRL-CAVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

ANGLO-CELT JANUARY 5, 1854 CAVAN QUARTER SESSIONS - Monday, Jan. 2. Shortly after 10 o'clock the following gentlemen were sworn on the Grand Jury: Thos. HARTLEY, Edward KENNEDY, Pat FAY, Peter BRADY, Wm. Moore BLACK, Francis M'Cabe, M. LOUGH, Jas. KELLY, Alex KETTYLE; John BRADY, Wm. FARIS, James GILROY, John Warren, Jas. MORROW, Hugh COULTER. His Worship, addressing them, said--That there were not many cases for their consideration; only one demanded much attention, it was a case of perjury. The familiarity of the gentlemen before him, with all the forms rendered it unnecessary for him to say more than that they should be satisfied that that statement was wilfully false, that it was a corrupt and deliberate statement, before they found a bill against the traverser. Gentlemen, the bills will be sent up to you in due course, as soon as it is convenient. His Worship proceeded to try the cases of persons applying to be discharged under the Insolvent Act. Pat LEAHY was opposed by Mr. James ARMSTRONG, on behalf of the County Treasurer. Applicant had been security for Wm. POLLOCK, Esq., and in his default, was arrested for a sum of 280l. MR. COCHRANE, who, with Mr. WRIGHT, appeared for the applicant, moved that the case be adjourned to next sessions, as Mr. POLLOCK had plenty of property to pay himself the amount he was deficient in. It was ruled accordingly. George BROOKS, an old and very worn man, was opposed on behalf of his landlord, Mr. ORPEN. It was maintained by Mr. James ARM- STRONG, that he should give up possession of his farm before he was discharged. The rent was payed up to 25th March last. Court--Bring an ejectment, Mr. Armstrong; it is not the rent you want, but the land. Let an assignee be appointed, and all the creditors get the benefit of the property. The applicant stated that he was five years in possession, and paid five years rent at a rate of two guineas an acre. Bartie GIBNEY was opposed by the same person, and in precisely the same circumstances. His rent was paid up to the 25th of March last. Court--Let the man be discharged, and an assignee appointed. David IRWIN was opposed by Mr. Edw. M'GAURAN, on behalf of Alexander BERRY, John GWYNNE, and Wm. ROGERS. Applicant had been receiver under (illegible). His rent was paid up to the 25th March last. Court--Let the man be discharged, and an assignee appointed. David IRWIN was opposed by Mr. Edw. M'GAURAN, on behalf of Alexander BERRY, John GWYNNE, and Wm. ROGERS. Applicant had been receiving under the courts in a lunacy matter. He never paid a shilling of what he got. Therefore Mr. Alexander BERRY, his security opposed his discharge. Mr. COCHRANE stated that Mr. IRWIN gave in his accounts to pass the master, on which 27l only were due. Mr. BERRY kept the accounts, and now turns round to say they were unfairly kept. Court--Why not appoint an assignee, who will make the property available? This is always the better course. Mr. M'GAURAN agreed, with the consent of his clients, and it was left to the Chief Clerk to appoint an assignee. Edward COYLE was opposed, on behalf of his own father, by Mr. TULLY. The arrest was a fraudulent one, he did not owe a penny to his detaining creditor. Thomas COYLE examined--Applicant is his son after he got the decree against him he had six stacks of oats and two cows and a heifer, worth 50l., which he sold in the fair of Longford. Edward COYLE--Is insolvent; there was an arbitration to give the mare, for which he was decreed to him, but the arbitrators not coming in, he was decreed. Court--I remand him until first day of next Session, and if he settles before I leave town I will discharge him. He should and must pay his father. SPIRIT LICENSES. Thomas M'CORMICK and Michael SHERIDAN applied for transfers of licenses to houses in Cavan. An objection was made to M'CORMICK, as having assaulted a policeman, when they came forward to quell a riot between the soldiers and civilians. It appears that M'CORMICK was himself seriously beaten, and in the excitement of the moment seized upon a gun of Sub Constable FOSTER. He denied having been aware that he did the thing at all, and it appears that the Magistrates did not think very ill of the matter, when they only fined him five shillings for the offence. It was left to the Bench. Mr. BURROWES voted against him, MR. THOMPSON and Mr. Thomas KNIPE for him, MR. SMYTH and Mr. PHILIPS also opposed him and he was refused. Michael SHERIDAN obtained it, and so did Andrew CRAWFORD, of Bridge street. APPEALS Rev. Peter SCHVALES, appellant; Simon CAROLL, respondent. This was an appeal to conviction for wages, 5l. 3s. 4d. and costs. Simon CAROLL examined by MR. Samuel KNIPE--Worked with his horse for Mr. SCHVALES, furnished bill for 5l., 3s. 4d. Summoned for it and got conviction at Arvagh; the money is honestly due, produces book. Cross examined by Mr. James ARMSTRONG--Is tenant to Mr. SCHOAS (sic), has nothing aginst that gentleman, called him in open Court a "journeyman sowl saver," his wife made a demand for money in August last, Mr. SCHALES (sic) paid then 7s. 6d., all that was demanded at the time. That was for another debt; he wished to let the horse hire lie over for the rent. MR. SCHOALES distrained for rent in November, on same day got the summon. Rev. Mr. SCHOALES sworn--engaged CARROLL (sic) last February, he was to send in his bill every week, eight items were down at 3s. 4d. each, whereas the whole could be done in a day. He has sixteen items for Miss SCHOALES riding on his pony, and charges 2s. 6d. for each half hour she rode out. When CARROLL's wife gave the bill in August last he asked her was all clear, she answered yes, sir. MR. KNIPE cross-examined the witness very minutely, but he kept to the statement that the seven and sixpence covered all wages. Charlotte CARROLL--Is wife to respondent. The seven and sixpence paid were for odd days work of the husband in MR. SCHOALES's garden, and one and sixpence for washing. His Worship reversed the judgment without costs. Mary DUNN, appellant; Constable James SMITH, respondent. This was a charge for keeping a house open for selling whiskey on Sunday. Mr. Cochrane contended that there was no allegation in the summons that brought the charges under the act, the house was open to be sure, but does not state for "selling whiskey," probably it was for selling coffee it was open. HIs Worship agreed with him, and the judgment was reversed. MR. COCHRANE--Your Worship has power to give 40s costs. Court--You have had a great escape. I'll give none to you. CROWN BUSINESS Charles KENNY, Thomas GILOOLY, John HAMILTON, John MATCHET, Joseph TREVOR, John DOBSON, Robert RAMSAY, John DOWNEY, Samuel PRATT, Joseph MAGUIRE, Ralph FOSTER, and James KELLETT were sworn as a petty jury. Pat LYNCH was indicted for assaulting Edward CAFFRAY, in Bally- jamesduff, so as to endanger his life, and in another count for joining in a riot, when several persons were assaulted. MR. Benjamin ARMSTRONG--The transaction took place on the 22nd March last, in Jas. SMYTH's house, in Ballyjamesduff; on that night a quarrel took place between the parties about some girl alleged to be seduced away from the prisoner; the prisoner was violent there, and assaulted CAFFREY with a knife, and injured him greatly. Edward CAFFREY sworn--MIles REILLY and he went into SMYTH's house for their horses; REILLY is his brother-in-law; it was between eight and nine they went in; LYNCH was behind the counter; REILLY and LYNCH had some words; LYNCH struck at REILLY and coming round, stabbed witness, who was saving REILLY, three times; does not know what REILLY and LYNCH were disputing about; was stabbed in the groin and hip; bled from the wounds until he fainted; was carried home on a cart next night. Lay two or three days; REILLY was also stabbed by LYNCH; Stephen CAREY was waiter in the house, he was stabbed too, but witness knows not by whom. Cross-examined by MR. James ARMSTRONG--Never knew LYNCH before; heard he was going to be married, his wife was a relation of the girl; LYNCH brought a process for the wedding expenses, but on that night knew nothing of the girl's friends being there that night to settle the process; never heard of it before or afterwards; saw nothing done to LYNCH, heard of a tumbler of punch being thrown in his face. Court--That is no evidence, even on cross-examination. Hearsay will do nothing whatever in the matter. MIles REILLY--Went into SMYTH's with the last witness; saw LYNCH and Edward CAFFREY's son arguing; LYNCH was keeping CAFFREY's wife there, and witness desired him to let her go; words ensued, he charged across the counter, and witness threw a glass of punch in his face; CAFFREY and witness did not go into the house together, (CAFFREY was called up, and after some hesitation, admitted that REILLY had been in before him.) LYNCH hopped across the counter, seemingly to strike witness, who threw the punch in his face in defence. CAFFREY interfered to save him after my coat was cut seven or eights times; knows not with what instrument he made the thursts (sic); it was then he stabbed CAFFREY. Cross-examined by Mr. COCHRANE--Knew not of any settlement on that night; saw not LYNCH cut, or with black eyes. Stephen CAREY--Was waiter in the house that night; coming from the kitchen, found CAFFREY and REILLY and Patrick LYNCH quarreling; saw LYNCH with a knife attempting to stab Miles REILLY; alarmed the master when LYNCH was pushed out; at the door he made an attempt to stab REILLY, which witness received in the hand; CAFFREY's wife was drinking behind the counter with SMYTH. Cross-examine by Mr. James ARMSTRONG--Heard nothing of any settlement; was attending to the kettle, and often enough to the pot. Court--MR. ARMSTRONG, don't ask him, none of the party will tell you anything, though they all know everything about it. Head-Constable GRAINGER--Recollects the night in question saw CAFFREY lying in a stream of blood; ran away for a doctor; thought the man was dying; went to the prisoner's house; asked to see him, when he at once gave up the knife. Mr. ARMSTRONG--You ran off when you saw the blood, with your long sword, like a good soldier. MR. ARMSTRONG--In this case the prisoner is indicted for a serious offence. I don't want to screen him, for he did the imprudent act; but if a man is provoked, so that he is apprehansive of danger to himself, even such an act will have some justification. LYNCH was courting the daughter of one Daniel LYNCH; the wedding day was named, when some busy body interfered and broke it off; LYNCH the prisoner processed for the expenses; a settlement was asked and LYNCH invited to it, he attended and after being some time in the house Terence M'CABE asked him to take a glass of punch, when going behind the counter the glass was thrown in the prisoner's (illegible)... was a party of seven or eight on the one side, and LYNCH was without an assistant, he then used the knife. Terence M'CABE examined--He proved the throwing of the glass of punch in LYNCH's face. Court--Gentlemen, find him guilty of a common assault; no medical evidence has proved his life endangered. They returned a verdict accordingly. His worship then addressed the prisoner on his cowardly and dastardly act. He brought it from America, where he was, and where it was very prevalent; it is creeping into England; and must be put down when it threatens to invade Ireland. If there had been medical evidence of danger to life, sentence of transportation would be recorded; as it was, such conduct should be repehended severely, and the sentence would be three month's imprisonment at hard labour. ______________________________________________________________ County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project

In 1824 came the first signs of the existence archaeologically of an important Iron Age cemetery at Hallstatt, a small village in Upper Austria. Since much was lost about the Celts through the centuries, archaeology, just developing as a science in the 19th century, became a chief source of knowledge about the Celts in Europe. From 1846 until 1963, when excavations stopped at the cemetery, anywhere from 1000 to 2000 graves (My sources conflict) were excavated. The cemetery mostly dates to the seventh and sixth centuries B.C.E., and includes graves of many different classes. 1000-2000 graves egad one might be mine Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning

In a message dated 3/17/2004 6:51:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, document@choiceonemail.com writes: > FYI - > The term "Celtic," from the Greek Keltoi was used by the Greeks to refer to > the peoples who lived beyond the Alps. This term, more or less, meant > stranger. There were many tribes who were referred to as the Keltoi, each of which > had their own unique culture and identity. These tribes were mainly found in > the areas we modernly refer to as Northern Italy, France, and Germany. Of > note, the cultures of the British Isles and Ireland - which in contemporary > thought form the heart of the Celtic culture - were still unknown to the Greeks > and therefore not held under the term Keltoi. It is only later that > archaeologists and linguists begin defining things such as the Hallstatt and La Tene' > periods and deciphering the Indo-European languages that we see an expansion of > the use of the term "Celtic" extending into non-Keltoi cultures. Coupled > with the European unification propaganda of the 1800's, the term "Celtic" became > a rallying point for all of the European countries as a point of ! > mutual identification. > very good one small correction Keltoi is the name of the people who were between the babylonians and the meades and then crossed the caspian mountians and headed west. the name comes from the behiston rock this unification propaganda of the 1800's is the awareness of where the people came from it was this that the chapter29 refered to as them "10- And at even the Holy Ghost fell upon Paul, and he prophesied, saying, Behold in the last days the God of Peace shall dwell in the cities, and the inhabitants thereof shall be numbered and in the seventh numbering of the people, their eyes shall be opened ** and the glory of their inheritance shine forth before them.The nations shall come up to worship on the mount the testifieth of the patience and long suffering of a servant of the Lord." then came german rationalism which castigated this and other teachings from the ciricular of teaching. this rationalism was the pavement for the third riech and the evils of aryianism. <<Many times, the term "Celtic" is used by scholars as a way to generalize and hide their lack of knowledge regarding the origin or subject of their work. By taking the time to specifically state the culture we are able to alleviate vagueness in our writing and expand our understanding of the topic. However, the term "Celtic" has become quite popular and is perhaps one of the more widely recognized terms we can use when referring to this widespread group of cultures on a collective basis.>> they really mean the same but for the scope today celtic means Irish maybe greater british. keltoi meant those with france scandinavia,old germany, swiss spanish,balkins and thrace. my name like most of ours is through out this terittory Ireland=denning dinan dinnin dennen dynnin, scotland dinning dinnin ect england denning dennen ect france denune denoon ect scandinavia denney denny denninge ect germany dennig dennen nice to meet you and you knowledge we probably disagree on small stuff but thats fine Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning

I think you neglected to mention Snow White, who as a precursor to St. Bridgid. Snow White, her given name has been lost through the ages, was so called because of her sanctity and purity. The name identified her with her mission to rid the Isle of its association with the black arts, signified by the ugly wicked queen, who is always portrayed wearing black. Because the Celtic Church was presided over by both Druids and Druidesses Snow White was easily accepted. Just as was to reoccur in Penal times Catholicism was a proscribed faith and proponents had to travel in various disguises. It is no surprise to those who have studied the history of the faith in Ireland that the 7 dwarfs (vertically challenged gentlemen) didn't spent all their time mining. They moonlighted as priests. The wicked witch who was jealous of Snow White and her success in her quest to christianise Ireland was determined to frustrate her crusade. Just as Christ was tempted in the desert, so too was Snow White. The poisoned apple is very symbolic, remember the garden of Eden. Snow White wrestled with the temptation, but did not succumb. The apples effects were transitory and did not immobilise her permanently. Now here is the Glastonbury link. The prince who woke Snow White from her sleep was none other than Caradoc son of Bran a Selerian King from Britain, who supported Snow White in her endeavours and gave her the renewed vigour she needed to continue her mission. His kiss is significant being as it is the antithesis of the Judas kiss in the garden of Gethsemane. > Well there is Irish History as hard as it is to separate from fables ever > hear of Ollam Folla. Who brought TeaTephi a daughter of Zedikiak to ireland to > marry the Irish High king . Who then were sworn in as kings on the stone until > Fergus took the Stone to Scotland. then Edward took it to England with all > those king > sworn in on the Stone. > Ollam Folla then started the Irish laws and religous system at Tara. > Shortly after Christ was Crucified, Lazarus, Mary Mother of Christ Mary > magdeline ,Martha, and Joseph of Arimatea [ Palinstine Minister of Mining > ,Christs uncle] went to Southern France were you will find relics of the women. > The men crossed the British Channel and went to Glastonbury where according > to legend Christ came with his uncle for mining tin contracts for Palestine. It > was in Glastonbury Joseph and Lazarus being enemies of rome were embraced > by the Druids and they converted. The enemy ofmy enemy is my friend. The first > above ground church after Christ was the British Church. The first Church > Councils sat the churchs by senority. Britian was first. > Then came Caradoc son of Bran a Selerian King from Britian who was captured > by the Romans by treachery . When he got to Rome they allowed him to address > the Roman senate because of his military genius he was the only king allowed > to live in Rome. They changed his name to Caractatus when he live with his wife > Pricilla in Rome. He received part of British Taxes to live on. > If you read Romans it was in the house of Pricilla that the Roman Church > started. Yeah that Pricilla because the couple were Christian. > Their decendents Gladys, then Claudia who was the mother of Constantine > thus the Christainizing of Rome. > As you might expect this could possibly be a dangerous notion to a chruch > that claimed supremacy. Thus it was supressed. The protestents didnt find it any > more appealing. S o thus you know nothing about it. > > Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinnin g- > carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mch ug > h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop ,M > a.-sprague- and ever growing list > Jim Denning > > > > > ==== IRL-CAVAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list click on > mailto:IRL-CAVAN-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or > mailto:IRL-CAVAN-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) > > > >