The following entries are from the 1821 Census. Lds Fim number 0597155 Townland of Lackanmore Parish of Denn Barony of Castlerahan Unless otherwise stated all houses are one storey House Number 1 Bryan Smith - Head - Age30 - Farmer Ann Smith - His Wife - Age 24 Bridget Smith - His Daughter - Age 1 Elizabeth Corvey - Age 18 - Flax Spinner John Rich - Age 20 - Labourer - Servant House Number 2 Peter Smith - Head - Age 76 - Farmer Margaret Smith - His Wife - Age 60 Margaret Smith - His Daughter - Age 16 - Flax Spinner Owen Smith - His Son - Age 22 - Labourer Ann Fitzsimons - Age 18 - Flax Spinner Mary Brady - His Grand-daughter - Age 2 Tom Corby - Age 22 - Labourer Servant Tom ? - Age 18 - Labourer Servant House Number 3 Michael Smith - Head - Age 40 - Farmer Judith Smith - His Wife - Age 32 Mary Smith - His Daughter - Age 10 Bridget Smith - His Daughter - Age 8 Patt Smith - His Son - Age 6 Margaret Smith - His Daughter - Age 4 Peter Smith - His Son - Age 2 Mathew Smith - His Son - Age 1 Anthony Brady - Age 18 - Labourer Servant Mary R------gan? - Age 20 - Flax Spinner Bridget McGrath - Age 50 Thomas Olivar - Age 16 - Herd Boy House Number 4 Andrew Reily - Head - Age 45 - Farmer Ann Reily - His Wife - Age - 30 Peter Reily - His Son - Age 18 - Labourer Judith Brady - Age 20 - Flax Spinner Phillip Reily - His Son - Age 2 Thomas Reily - His Son - Age 10 - Herd Boy House Number 5 Thomas Reilly - Head - Age 21 Margaret Reilly - His Wife - Age 21 Phillip Reilly - His Son - Age 2 Peter Reilly - His Son - Age 1 Mary ??? - Age 15 - Flax Spinner House Number 6 Patt Lynch - Head - Age 40 - Farmer Bridget Lynch - His Wife - Age 30 Rose Lynch - His Daughter - Age 8 Judith Lynch - His Daughter - Age 3 John Lynch - His Son - Age 1 House Number 7 Connor Reily - Head - Age 36 Catherine Reily - His Wife - Age 30 Mary Reily - His Daughter - Age 17 - Flax Spinner Anne Reily - His Daughter - Age 15 - Flax Spinner Patt Reily - His Son - Age 12 Bridget Reily - His Daughter - Age 10 Peter Reily - His Son - Age 2 House Number 8 Charles Gafney - Head - Age 38 - Farmer Mary Gafney - His Wife - Age 36 Michael Gafney - His Son - Age 2 Peter Gafney - His Son - Age 1 Catherine Brady - Age 70 - Travelling Woman House Number 9 Patt Magauran - Head - Age 60 Catherine Magauran - His Wife - Age 50 Terence Magauran - His Son - Age 30 - Labourer Servant Michael Magauran - His Son - Age 10 House Number 10 Bryan Gafney - Head - Age 40 - Farmer Rose Gafney - His Wife - Age 40 Michael Gafney - His Son - Age 10 Phillip Gafney - His Son - Age 9 Patt Gafney -His Son - Age 1 House Number 11 Bryan Smith - Head - Age 40 - Farmer Catherine Smith - His Wife - Age 40 Andrew Smith - His Son - Age 17 Patt Smith - His Son - Age 12 Rose Smith - His Daughter - Age ? Phillip Smith - His Son - Age 3 John Smith - His Son - Age 2 Mary Ruddy - Age 30 - Flax Spinner House Number 12 Peter Smith - Head - Age 30 - Farmer Thomas Smith - His Brother - Age 20 - Labourer Connor Smith - His Brother - Age 18 - Labourer Ann Smith - His Sister - Age 16 - Spinner House Number 13 Judith Smith - Head - Age 60 - Widow - Farmer Michael Smith - Her Son - Age 20 - Labourer John Smith - Her Son - Age 18 - Labourer Catherine Smith - Her Daughter - Age 14 - Flax Spinner Michael Smith - Her Son - Age 25 - Labourer Ann McAvoy - Age 20 - Flax Spinner Catherine McAvoy - Age 19 - Flax Spinner House Number 14 James Lynch - Head - Age 45 - Farmer Ellen Lynch - His Wife - Age 30 Mary Lynch - His Daughter - Age 10 Catherine Lynch - His Daughter - Age 8 Ellen Lynch - His Daughter - Age 4 Patt Lynch - His Son - Age 2 John Donocho - Age 20 - Labourer Servant House Number 15 James Murphy - Head - Age 30 - Farmer Mary Murphy - His Wife - Age 30 Mary Murphy - His Daughter - Age 3 Bridget Murphy - His Daughter - Age 1 House Number 16 John Brady - Head - Age 38 - Farmer Mary Brady - His Wife - Age 30 Phillip Brady - His Son - Age 14 Mary Brady - His Daughter - Age 8 Judith Brady - His Daughter - Age 2 Bridget Smith - Age 16 - Spinning Servant House Number 17 Michael Reily - Head - Age 50 - Farmer & Mason Catherine Reily - His Wife - Age 50 James Reily - His Son - Age 20 - Labourer Phillip Reily - His Son - Age 18 - Labourer Michael Reily - His Son - Age 14 - Labourer Patt Reily - His Son - Age 7 Rose Reily - His Daughter - Age 15 - Spinner Catherine Reily - His Daughter - Age 9 Bridget Thomson - Age 20 - Spinning Sevant House Number 18 ? Smith - Head - Age 30 - Farmer Ellen Smith - His Wife - Age 30 Mary Smith - His daughter - Age 8 Judith Smith - His Daughter - Age 5 Patt Smith - His Son - Age 3 Bernard Smith - His Son - Age 1 Thomas Reily - Age 20 - Labouring Servant Anne Reily - Age 17 - Flax Spinner House Number 19 Patt Flanagan - Head - Age 30 Mary Flanagan - His Wife - Age 26 Mary Flanagan - His Daughter - Age 4 Bridget Flanagan - His Daughter - Age 4 Edward Flanagan - His Son - Age 2 House Number 20 Bridget McAvoy - Head - Age 40 Margaret McAvoy - Her Daughter - Age 14 House Number 21 Bryan Sexton - Head - Age 40 - Farmer Catherine Sexton - His Wife - Age 30 Rose Sexton - His Daughter - Age 12 Mary Sexton - His Daughter - Age 9 Patt Sexton - His Son - Age 6 John Sexton - His Son - Age 4 Michael Sexton - His Son - Age 3 James Sexton - His Son - Age 1 House Number 22 Thomas Smith - Head - Age 26 - Farmer Mary Smith - His Wife - Age 24 Anne Smith - His Daughter - Age 2 Thomas Smith - His Son - Age 1 Bryan Darby - Age 24 - Labouring Servant Elizabeth Gordon - Age 15 - Spinning Servant House Number 23 Andrew Boyland - Head - Age 40 Catherine Boyland - His Wife - Age 36 Bernard Boyland - His Son - Age 6 Michael Boyland - His Son - Age 2 House Number 24 Michael McBrien - Head - Age 40 - Farmer Bridget McBrien - His Daughter - Age 4 John McBrien - His Son - Age 3 House Number 25 Thomas McAvoy - Head - Age 50 - Farmer Margaret McAvoy - His Wife - Age - 40 ? McAvoy - His Son - Age 14 Ann McAvoy - His Daughter - Age 9 House Number 26 Elizabeth McAvoy - Head - Age 60 - Widow - Farmer James McAvoy - Her Son - Age 22 - Labourer Bridget McAvoy - Her Daughter - Age 8 House Number 27 Philip Smith - Head - Age 30 - Farmer Ann Smith - His Wife - Age 24 John Smith - His Son - Age 2 Judith Smith - His Daughter - Age 1 House Number 28 Peter Smith - Head - Age 30 - Farmer Connor Smith - His Brother - Age 20 - Weaver Thomas Smith - His Brother - Age 24 Mason Ann Smith - His Sister - Age 18 - Spinner House Number 29 Patt Smith - Head - Age 30 - Farmer Mary Smith - His Sister - Age 23 - Spinner Phillip Smith - His Brother - Age 20 - Labourer Catherine Smith - His Sister - Age 15 - Spinnner John Smith - His Brother - Age 8 House Number 30 Patt McAvoy - Head - Age 32 - Farmer Bridget McAvoy - His Wife - Age 26 James McAvoy - His Son - Age 10 Elizabeth McAvoy - His Daughter - Age 8 Bridget McAvoy - His Daughter - Age 5 Mary McAvoy - His Daughter - Age 1 House Number 31 James Reilly - Head - Age 50 - Farmer Patt Reilly - His Son - Age 20 Ann Reilly - His Daughter - Age 18 - Spinner Catherine Reilly - His Daughter - Age 10 Rose Reilly - His Daughter - Age 8 Bridget Reilly - His Daughter - Age 7 Ellen Reilly - His Daughter - Age 3 House Number 32 Garrett Reilly - Head - Age 45 Catherine Reilly - His Wife - Age 50 Bridget Reilly - His Daughter - Age 15 - Spinner Catherine Reilly - His Daughter - Age 12 Terence Reilly - His Son - Age 10

Was there an 1821 census for Monaghan? and how would one go about using it?

Hi Dave, On the 27th December you sent this email to me. Thank you very much for the information. Without getting myself into the bad books 'again' could I ask if (1) There are birth records for any children born to this Alexander WEBSTER and Elspet LAING. My James WEBSTER was born in Killeshandra (c) 1852 and unfortunately it only states his age at death on his Death Certificate. (2) Also where do I make contact for his Marriage Certificate? He was married in the Presbyterian Church, City of Cork (c) 1881 to Mary Frances Murray. I only know how old he was when he married aged 29. I don't know anything about Mary Frances MURRAY. (3) I don't know if you remember me trying to find Hannah Webster's birth record but in purchasing her Marriage Certificate (BMD NSW) I was able to establish the fact that she was born in Tralee, Ireland in (c) 1882 so now I am hoping somehow I can find out her actual birthdate. If this is too much to ask for, could you please tell me where and how I can go about finding out this information. Thank you Dave. Regards, Hilda Cooper, Sydney. Australia (It's hard living on the other side of the world and perhaps doing things differently here) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] WEBSTER FAMILY FROM KILLESHANDRA > Hi Hilda, Found this marriage for you; Alexander WEBSTER to Elspet > LAING, > 21 May 1836 > Keig, Aberdeen, > Scotland > > Webster to seems to fairly common surname in Aberdeen. Dave Blair > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: > 12/25/2006 > >

Hi Hilda, I don't really know or have birth records, except again you can write to local Presbyterian Church in Killeshandra or google the P. churches' main office in Ireland for records.? On the people c.1881 or so write/e-mail-fax to GRO (Gov. Records Office) no longer in Dublin but in Co Roscommon here is the web link _www.groirelan.ie/_ (http://www.groirelan.ie/) . Or write to them at Gro, Convent Rd, Roscommon, Co. Roscommon, Ireland, they have all BMD records all religions.Thats the best way, you find out names & towns/churches for clues to write to. Hope this helps. Dave Blair

DESCENDANTS IN IRELAND? JAMES INGRAM b. c1800 Fartha Knockbride Parish Co Cavan Ireland d. 17 Feb 1878 - brothers SAMUEL & EDWARD SAMUEL INGRAM m JANE // i. son ALEXANDER b 01 Mar 1824 EDWARD INGRAM m ANNE // i DAVID INGRAM, b. 13 Mar 1826 ii. ANNE INGRAM b. 13 Mar 1826 iii. EDWARD INGRAM b. Bef 19 Jul 1829 iv. JANE INGRAM b. c1832 m JOHN WADE 14 Feb 1856 Res time of m Jane-Fartha John- Drumgoon JAMES INGRAM m ISABELLA // b c1807 d 14 May 1878 Fartha i. MARY INGRAM b c1823 Fartha m ISAAC MAGUIRE 26 Apr 1837 Res time of m Mary Knockbride Isaac Lavey ii. ISABELLA INGRAM b c1824 d 03 Aug 1862 Cartwright ON. (not verified this Isabella attached to correct Ingram family see private notes) iii. JAMES INGRAM b c1825 Fartha iv. WILLIAM INGRAM b 15 Oct 1829 Fartha d 02 Oct 1888 Bethany ON. v. JOHN INGRAM b Bef 28 Apr 1839 Fartha vi. SAMUEL EDWARD INGRAM b cAug 1846 Fartha d 10 Feb 1918 Seefin vii. MARGARET ISABELLA INGRAM b 23 Apr 1853 Fartha DAVID INGRAM m ISABELLA DRURY d/o JOHN DRURY & ISABELLA FAULKNER 06 Aug 1856 Res at m Isabella Ardmore David Fartha i EDWARD INGRAM b 05 Aug 1857 ii JAMES INGRAM b 06 Dec 1860 d 22 May 1947 Knockbride Parish iii. JOHN INGRAM b Abt. 1862 m. MARY ANNE THOMPSON b. Abt. 1862. iv. ISABELLA INGRAM b 27 Jan 1865 m JOHN LEACH 25 Jul 1907 Res time of m Fartha v. MARGARET INGRAM b 07 Sep 1868 vi. WILLIAM INGRAM b 16 Sep 1872 vii. ROBERT INGRAM b 26 Aug 1874 d 17 Apr 1894 Fartha, viii. ELIZABETH INGRAM b 18 Sep 1878 Fartha ix. CATHERINE INGRAM b 22 Mar 1881 ISABELLA INGRAM m MATTHEW 'MATT' FERGUSON 13 Apr 1843 in Corroneary Presbyterian Church, Knockbride b c1817 Knockbride Both died Cartwright ON. i. EDWARD JOHN FERGUSON b 14 Jan 1844 d 22 Jul 1921 Thornbury ON. JAMES INGRAM m MARGARET MCCLELLAN. i. JAMES INGRAM b. Bef 15 Mar 1840 WILLIAM INGRAM m ELIZABETH MAGUIRE 12 Mar 1849 in Knockbride Parish Elizabeth d/o THOMAS MAGUIRE and MARY WHITE b 22 Jun 1829 d 11 Apr 1904 Bethany ON. Arrived Canada settled Manvers Twp. I have recorded 10 children & descendants d.i. NB: THOMAS MAGUIRE & 6 other children left Ireland to settle MANVERS GALWAY Twps HALIBURTON & UXBRIDGE areas Surname spelling changed to McGUIRE SAMUEL EDWARD INGRAM m ELIZABETH WADE d/o ARRON WADE 18 Apr 1878 i. ARRON JAMES INGRAM b 20 May 1879 Fartha d 27 Oct 1956 Knockbride. Bapt 05 Aug 1846 Rev George J Kellett who married William Ingram & Elizabeth Maguire Res time of m Samuel Fartha Elizabeth Drumhillagh time of death Seefin JAMES INGRAM m (1) MATILDA 'TILLY' DRURY 17 Dec 1908 d/o JOHN DRURY & ISABELLA FAULKNER b 06 Aug 1876 d c1909. (2) ELIZABETH LUCAS d/o JOHN W. LUCAS 17 Nov 1910 b. c1886 d. 27 Nov 1963 Children JAMES INGRAM & MATILDA DRURY i. DAVID INGRAM b Abt. 1909 Knockbride Parish Children of JAMES INGRAM & ELIZABETH LUCAS i. MARY JANE CECELLIA 'CELIA' INGRAM b 29 May 1915 ii. HARRY INGRAM b c1918 d. 02 Jan 1974. iii HENRY INGRAM b 13 Jan 1918 iv. ANNIE ISABEL INGRAM b. 23 Feb 1921 v. ANN INGRAM b. c1925, Knockbride Parish, d. 18 Nov 1989. Church of Ireland Old Cemetery Knockbride JAMES INGRAM m ISABELLA MCKELVEY daughter of HENRY MCKELVEY 29 Oct 1858 i. JAMES INGRAM b 05 Nov 1859 Knockbride Parish ARRON JAMES INGRAM m CHARLOTTE SOPHIA i. CHARLOTTE SOPHIA INGRAM b Bef 11 Aug 1914 ii. SAMUEL INGRAM b c1916 d 1 July 1993 burial Corroneary Presbyterian Cemetery Knockbride. iii. HERBERT ALEXANDER INGRAM b. 20 May 1920 JAMES INGRAM m MARIA ANN WADE 26 Jun 1892 i. JAMES INGRAM b. 14 Mar 1894 Knockbride Parish ii. JANE INGRAM b. 06 Mar 1896 m GEORGE CHAMBERS 11 Jun 1924 Res time of marriage Jane-Fartha, George-Billis iii. MARY ANN INGRAM, b. 11 Jan 1898, Knockbride Parish. iv. DAVID JAMES INGRAM, b. 03 Oct 1909, Knockbride Parish, Dave Ingram My Genealogy Webpages:.......UPDATED: 01 JANUARY 2007 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=713 http://www.gencircles.com/users/daveingram

Nineteen-year-old Mary Reilly ,a Laundress from Ballyconnell ,Cavan ,Ireland , was aboard the ship ' Wallasea ' , bound for Sydney , New South Wales ,Australia , in 1865. She appeared to have travelled alone or at least unaccompanied by any other Reilly. I would like to learn something of Mary's background , including her birth , her family , and her place of work...... Would her being a Laundress mean that she necessarily worked at a Laundry or could it mean that shemay have worked as household domestic staff ? How can I proceed ? Ray in New Zealand _________________________________________________________________ Need a new job? Check out XtraMSN Careers http://xtramsn.co.nz/careers

Seek info on Irwin family who attended Coroneary Presbyterian Church near Cootehill. I believe the date are baptism dates of infants, as my ggg-grandfather is Richard, b. in 1813. parents: James Irwin and wife Martha (Pepper) children: 1. Elizabeth 1794 2. Mary 1794 3. John 1797 4. Mary 1799 5. James 1802 6. Robert 1805 7. Lydia 1807 8. David 1810 9. Richard 1813 I have information on Richard, David, Robert and Lydia; all of whom emigrated with their mother, to Ontario, Canada, in 1832, and settled in New York and Michigan over the next few years. Robert Pepper and another brother also came about the same time and ended in Oakland County, Michigan. I seek info on the pre-1832 Irwin and Pepper families in County Cavan and maybe Monaghan, who might be connected. I plan to visit the area in 2008 or 09. Thanks for any possibilities and tips on research of this area and time. Diane W

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Hi Jane, I certainly wasn't getting swept up in my own research. Successes for me, are few and far between. I was merely asking for help. Whether someone has more information is another matter. As I am not able to read into someones computer memory, unfortunately for me, I did not know how much information Dave had on file. I believe in one old Proverb......'Ask and it shall be given unto you'. I would rather take the opportunity of asking and be told....'No I am sorry I don't have that information'....rather than to be told..........'Why didn't you ask me'. I think that just about sums up the way I feel and I would like the matter to be laid to rest. Happy New Year to You too. Hilda Cooper, Sydney Australia.

Hilda I wasn't trying to be mean to you, just pointing out that despite David's great kindness in looking up the records he holds he can't be expected to necessarily have ALL the records you need at his fingertips. Sorry to have upset you, I know how easy it is to get swept up in your own researches! Have a happy new year Jane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hilda Cooper Sent: Wednesday, 27 December 2006 12:22 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] WEBSTER FAMILY FROM KILLESHANDRA I apologise most profusely if I have overstepped the mark. I am hurt and upset to say the least if I have cause Dave any angst at all. Dave, please accept my apologies and thank you for the information that you have given me thus far. Sincerely, Hilda Cooper, Sydey, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J T Pearson Outdoor Training" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] WEBSTER FAMILY FROM KILLESHANDRA > Hilda > You are asking too much of Dave. He has kindly checked up his copy of > the Killeshandra 1841 census for you and found the family AND a birth > place of scotland to direct you back further. > It is now up to you to try and find the birth records for James which > you may find by a search on the IGI on the LDS website. The records > David holds are those of the 1841 census only so he cannot answer your > request for a birth in 1852. > You are extremely lucky that your family was living in the only parish > in Ireland where the census records for 1841 have survived and also > lucky that there is someone out there with a copy of the full > transcript. The index is available on CD but the full listing is > harder to track down. You could try the Irish origins site for an > index search of the Griffiths valuation also the Irish Times website > which has links to baptism records (index only) for Co Cavan. > Good hunting > Jane > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Hilda Cooper > Sent: Wednesday, 27 December 2006 10:20 a.m. > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] WEBSTER FAMILY FROM KILLESHANDRA > > Thank you Dave, > Could we stretch the friendship a little and could I ask you to find > the birth of James WEBSTER in Killeshandra please. > On his Death Certificate it states > (actual wording) 'Born Killeshandra North Ireland Father Alexander > Mother Elizabeth.' > He died in Sydney in 1894 at age 42 which would mean he was born (c) 1852. > It also states that he was a saddler and his father was a farrier. > Is this enough info to find him? > Hilda. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:05 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] WEBSTER FAMILY FROM KILLESHANDRA > > >> Hi Hilda, Found this marriage for you; Alexander WEBSTER to Elspet >> LAING, >> 21 May 1836 >> Keig, >> Aberdeen, Scotland >> >> Webster to seems to fairly common surname in Aberdeen. Dave Blair >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.27/602 - Release Date: >> 12/25/2006 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/556 - Release Date: > 28/11/2006 > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/556 - Release Date: > 28/11/2006 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: > 12/26/2006 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/556 - Release Date: 28/11/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/556 - Release Date: 28/11/2006

Hi Dave, In response to your query re Wm. Morrow b. Ireland 1797-1801 & d. 1861-1870 Ontario: Is your Wm. the son of Robert Morrow and Letitia Meharry who emigrated around 1818 and who settled on Cavan Twp., conc. 12, W 1/2 of Lot 19? According to "This Green and Pleasant Land, Chronicles of Cavan Twp." Wm. inherited this property, presumably after Robert died in 1848. Would he have moved at that time from the Duoro lot you mentioned? Or is it another Wm. Morrow? The Howden family were friends with and intermarried with the Morrows so maybe Elizabeth was a Howden? They also chose property across the concession from Robert Morrow in Cavan. My interest in the Morrow family is because Eliza/Elizabeth, one of Robert Morrow's daughters married Wm. Greer (who emigrated with my ancestor of GEORGE GREER of Cavan and so I collected data on the family in my searches years ago). One of Wm. & Elizabeth's sons was named Robert Morrow Greer (c. 1842-1867) Have you checked the Gardiner Cemetery Records? This is where Wm. & Eliza Greer and many other of the early Methodists were buried. I have borrowed through interlibrary loan the microfilm of the entries from Ontario Archives, Ms 451, reel 85; however I am not sure if there are entries if the stone is now gone. In 1989, I was able to access the actual Gardiner cemetery book through Mrs. Max Manley of R.R.#1, Fraserville, though I hardly expect that she still has the book; however there are still Manleys at this address that you can find through Canada 411. I would also try the Kawartha branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society. The cemetery book definitely has entries that are not recorded with stones in the cemetery. Good luck. Hope this info can perhaps help you. Ginny Haysom.

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Thanks Susan for the ideas on expanding my search. One Andrew Tully that they sent me would have been 29 in 1833 when my Patrick Tully was supposedly born, which makes it a good possibility. He was the son of Thomas Tully of Ballyhaise, household #30. How do I go about expanding on this information now? I also decided to look at the family that Patrick Tully married in to here in Illinois. His wife was Mary Leonard, who was the daughter of Patrick Leonard & Margaret Smith. They all settled in a little farming community in central Illinois with Tully, Carroll, Daugherty and Smith families all sponsoring each other in baptisms, weddings, etc. I have no info on the Leonard family and the only tidbit of info that I have on the Smith family is an obit written about John Smith, who I believe is the brother of Margaret Smith. It says in there that he was the uncle of James and Patrick Smith, the Leonard daughters and the Tully children. So, now I'm going to see if maybe I can find the Smith family in County Cavan and maybe connect the Tully family that way. --- Any ideas on how to do this? I am not too good at using the Family History website in finding anything. maybe you can coach me on that? Lois Heath Message: 6 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:26:09 -0600 From: "Susan Daily" Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] tully in county cavan Did the baptism records they sent you list the father's name? It should have. Did any of those records have a father Andrew? Have you found Patrick's wife's father's name? Who are the other Tully names listed as godparents in Patrick's children's baptism records? These would likely be close relatives, siblings, or cousins. Sometimes even a parent. You would want to find out where the church records would be for someone from Bailyhaise and Drung - then see if there are Tullys recorded there, and try to figure out the family. These records might be on microfilm at the LDS FHC. (Need further info?) This is just a start. Susan On 12/21/06, Lois Brinks-Heath wrote: > My continuing search for Patrick Tully. > After waiting almost 9 months, I finally have received the research from the cavan genealogy center, but it was not too fruitful. They sent me several Patrick Tully's baptized in the 1833 timeframe (which I have figured is when he was born because when he died in 1902, the small news obituary said he was 69 years). > > Patrick's oldest son was named Andrew, and they said there is a possibility that Andrew was named after his grandfather - that is the first possible lead of an ancestor's name that I've had. They found two Andrew Tully's in the 1821 census, one in Bailyhaise and one in Drung. So, now I have some possible leads, but still don't know how to chip further on this giant brickwall of mine. Any ideas anybody? > Lois Heath > Texas > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:51:28 +1100 From: "Maureen Cattanach" Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Reilly Family To: "members" Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello. This is my first time on this list and I hope there is someone who can help me. I am doing my father's family tree and I would like to find some information about my G.G.Grandfather.This is what I have so far. My Father was Thomas Reilly born Bendigo, Vic Aust. Granfather was Bartholomew Reilly born Bendigo,Aust. G.Grandfather was Terence Reilly born around 1860 . His death cert shows his birth place as Ballyjamesduff, County Cavan, Ireland. His parents were Bartholomew Reilly and Mary Smith and I believe they were farmers. I would like to find more information about them and or any siblings. We are all Catholics, if that helps. My children bought me a trip to Ireland in early 2008 for Christmas and I would like to find out if there is any family that I would be able to contact before or maybe when I am there. By the way my name is Maureen (Reilly) Cattanach, and I live in Hoppers Crossing , Victoria, Australia. Thank you and hope to hear from you. Maureen. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:19:58 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Reilly Family To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Maureen I am also doing research on the Reillys from Cavan. Let me know if you come across Owen and Ellen (Elinor) Reilly, a son John, who immigrated to New York City about 1849. I will keep your family on file and if I come across anything pertaining to them I will let you know. Happy New Year. Bill Reilly Staten Island, New York ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-CAVAN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-CAVAN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 1, Issue 135 ***************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

You're right Padraig, Mike was born 1855. My error. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pádraig Mór Ó Gealagáin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Reilly Family Hi Ray, Just for the record, is there any chance that you have might transposed the figures in Galligan's stated year of birth? If not, then grandma was 27 years older than her husband. ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Atomplug" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Reilly Family > My grandmother was Anne Reilly, born 1858 in Drung, she died Feb. 21 1929. > She married Michael Galligan, born 1885, died Jan. 21, 1932. They were > married Jan. 17, 1884. Any more info. would be great. Ray Greene from > R.I. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another straw in the stream gone over the dam! But Thanks for the look up, Dave ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] GALLIGAN FAMILIES -1841 CENSUS ABSTRACTS -KILLESHANDRA > Hi Padraig, Sorry only a few GALLIGAN/GALLEGAN families none fit at all. > Dave Blair >

Hi Ray, Just for the record, is there any chance that you have might transposed the figures in Galligan's stated year of birth? If not, then grandma was 27 years older than her husband. ***** Reply to the LIST ONLY - Please ***** ***** Thanks for your consideration ***** Pádraig Mór, An Sean Gabhar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Atomplug" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Reilly Family > My grandmother was Anne Reilly, born 1858 in Drung, she died Feb. 21 1929. > She married Michael Galligan, born 1885, died Jan. 21, 1932. They were > married Jan. 17, 1884. Any more info. would be great. Ray Greene from > R.I.

Surname interest… MORROW William MORROW, born Ireland, 1797 to 1801, died between 1861 & 1870, Spouse Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ HOWE? born 1801 to 1821, died after 1871. Census of 1851 & 1861 show the family living with 9 children in Douro Township, Conc 1, west ½ lot 8, near my old hometown of Peterborough Ontario. 1971 census shows Elizabeth as a widow, living with three of her daughters in MILLBROOK, Ontario as per following notes; Source: 1871 Census: #9979; Cavan, Dist 51; East Durham, Div. 2, P. 60, Ln.. 1. name, sex, age, birthplace, religion, origin (estimated d.o.b.) CORRIGAN, Margaret, f, 28 Ont. C/E, Irish 18 Aug 1842 William R., m, 10 , " " " abt 1861 Charles , m, 8, " " " abt 1863 Eliza, f, 5, " " " abt 1866 Richard, m, 2, " " " abt 1869 MORROW, Elizabeth, f, 50, Ireland, abt 1801 to 1821 (widow) Elin, f, 29, Ont. C/E " abt 1842 Sarah, f, 21, " " " abt 1850 Census date 2 April 1871. Age = next birthday Elizabeth was a widow living with her daughter Margaret (Corrigan) Morrow and two other daughters, Ellen & Sarah in Millbrook, Ont. I would like to find death and burial records for William & Elizabeth MORROW and also confirm correct maiden name for Elizabeth. Thank you, Dave Ingram My Genealogy Webpages:........UPDATED: 29 DECEMBER 2006 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=713 http://www.gencircles.com/users/daveingram

Hi Padraig, Sorry only a few GALLIGAN/GALLEGAN families none fit at all. Dave Blair

The surname list has been updated for the most part. If you do not see your surname there and you have sent a message to the list or to me through the Surname Interest List page, I may not have gotten to your request yet. Please be patient. _http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcav2/surnamelist.html_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcav2/surnamelist.html) DO NOT SEND EMAILS YET IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SENT ONE. Hopefully, I will complete the updating that has been sent to me by this weekend. I will then return to sweeping the list. (Sweeping the list is sending posts to those on the Surname Interest List to see if the email bounces.) Denise

My grandmother was Anne Reilly, born 1858 in Drung, she died Feb. 21 1929. She married Michael Galligan, born 1885, died Jan. 21, 1932. They were married Jan. 17, 1884. Any more info. would be great. Ray Greene from R.I. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Reilly Family > Maureen > I am also doing research on the Reillys from Cavan. Let me know if you > come > across Owen and Ellen (Elinor) Reilly, a son John, who immigrated to New > York > City about 1849. I will keep your family on file and if I come across > anything pertaining to them I will let you know. Happy New Year. > Bill Reilly > Staten Island, New York > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >