If Colleen Newton of New Zealand is still on this list, please get in touch with me offline. I emailed and it came back so you must have a new address. Thanks! Kay Stanton Daytona Beach, FL [email protected]

Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District * Purchase Certificate V18161934 3A/1816 DENNING THOMAS JOHNS MARY CB Buy Now her is how these people tie into the mass group from longford _http://hometown.aol.com/ollamfolla/chel.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/ollamfolla/chel.html) In a message dated 5/28/2007 11:00:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Check out this site _www.bdm.nsw.gov.au_ (outbind://21/www.bdm.nsw.gov.au) You will find plenty Dennings. Ann whose doing AU denning or johns Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I am look for any family of James GILLICK who married Bridget REILLY c1866. Their children were Patrick b 1867-Tom(as) b1869-Bernard b1871- (James b1876-Michael ,Bridgie ,Kathleen who married Jack REILLY Mary b1864-1947 married Michael McNAMARA1846-1922(my grand parents) Pat , &James GILLICK who married Ann DOYLE Do they belong to you?? Helen McNamara Christchurch. New Zealand

Hi! I'm a new lister from Queensland Australia! Looking for information on James LITTLE married to Margaret STEWART Baillieborough Presbyterian 17 March 1854. Certificate has fathers - late James LITTLE & late Adam STEWART. Couple migrated Australia 1854. Immigration records show "Cavan" (town or county?). Seeking any further information. Thanks, Thelma

I am looking for relatives from Fartah who left around the mid 1840s. Their names were Lynch and Brady. They settled in Cambria County PA, USA. I'm guessing there must've been people already in Cambria Co from Co Cavan that they joined there. Can any one help? Thanks Rich

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:18 PM Subject: IRL-CAVAN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 97 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Cavan Weekly News - February 23, 1877 (Kay Stanton) > 2. Re: Cavan Weekly News - February 23, 1877 ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 21:39:19 -0400 > From: "Kay Stanton" <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-CAVAN] Cavan Weekly News - February 23, 1877 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > CAVAN WEEKLY NEWS, Friday, February 23, 1877 > > > > MARRIAGE. > > BOTHWELL and HEASLIP - February 22nd, in the Presbyterian Church, Cavan, > by the Rev. James CARSON, assisted by the Rev. Gabriel COULTER, Mr. > Gustavus M. Bothwell, merchant, Killeshandra, to Mary Jane, youngest > daughter of Mr. Samuel Heaslip, South Stanley Street, Brisbane, > Queensland, Australia. > > > > DEATH. > > STAFFORD - Feb. 17, at Bridge Street, Cavan, after a short illness, Anne, > fourth daughter of Mr. George Stafford, aged 22 years. "Her end was > peace." > > > > LOCAL NEWS. > > A sermon will be preached in Cavan Church on Sunday, next, in aid of > the funds of the Irish Society, by the Rev. T. O'MAHONY, D.D,, Professor > of Irish, T.C.D. > > > > The sermon at the service in Cavan Church on next Thursday evening, > will be preached by the Rev. W. P. MOORE. Subject: "The dark hours of > Job." > > > > DIOCESE OF KILMORE, ELPHIN, AND ARDAGH. - At a meeting of the Board > of Nomination of the parish of Swanlinbar, diocese of Kilmore, the Lord > Bishop of the diocese presiding, on the 17th inst., in Cavan, the Rev. > Alfred B. BEST, A.B., curate of Aghaderg, diocese of Dromore, was elected > to the incumbency. > > > > Mr. Matthew CARROLL has been appointed Petty Sessions Clerk of > Ballyconnell. > > > > OUTRAGE NEAR ARVA. - On the night of Monday, 19th inst., a party of > armed men entered the house of a man named MURRAY, who lives in Cornaugh, > on the road leading from Arva to Carrigallen. The unwelcome visitors > roused Murray and family from their beds, presented their arms, ordered > them to leave the place, and treated them roughly. The reason assigned > for such summary dealing was that Murray's sons were in the habit of > playing the fife accompanied with the drum for the "Cullies Lads," who are > Protestants. The police are active; many arrests have been made. All > parties concerned are Roman Catholics. - Correspondent. > > > > BAILLIEBOROUGH PETTY SESSIONS- > > Tuesday. > > (Before James SMALL, Esq., J.P., Capt. WARING, Esq., R.M., and Hugh K. > SIMPSON, Esq., J.P.) > > Alleged Larceny of a Heifer. > > James O'BRIENS, a miserable-looking fellow, was put forward, charged > by Sub-Constable Morris, Kingscourt, with stealing a heifer the property > of Michael FARRELL, Tunnyduff. > > Witness said he saw defendant on the 6th inst., offering for sale a > heifer in Kingscourt fair; arrested him on suspicion; the owner of the > heifer afterwards identified the animal as his property. > > After hearing the information, the Bench returned the case for trial > at next Cavan Assizes. > > > > Workhouse Delinquents. > > Thomas SIMPSON and James NULTY, juvenile inmates of the Bailieborough > Workhouse, were charged by the Guardians with eloping from the Workhouse > with the Union clothing, on the 11th inst. The Master, who appeared in > charge of defendants, said it was their first offence. > > The youthful runaways were discharged with a caution. > > > > A Groom in Trouble. > > Sub-Constable Patrick NOLAN, charged Patrick GARGAN, with being drunk > and disorderly while in charge of a dangerous stallion at Bailieborough, > on the 8th instant. > > Witness said he saw defendant, who was drunk, leading a horse on a > long rein, near the Model school gate, defendant seemed incapable of > controlling the animal, and on being ordered by witness to go quietly > home, he pulled up the horse and gave him some secret command which had > the effect of stirring him to action, witness was immediately coiled by > the rein, the horse at the same time ready to attach him, with some > difficulty witness got released and ran to the barracks for assistance, > the horse still following him, Sub-Constable M'GEE came to his assistance, > when defendant drove off. > > Defendant, who has since taken the pledge against drink, was ordered > to pay ?2 and costs, or in default, one month's imprisonment. > > The liquor department of this court was thinly represented to-day, > only a few crowned heads being in attendance. The constabulary are > gradually bringing the "Gilbeyites," to a true sense of their position. > > > > > > (County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 21:50:31 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-CAVAN] Cavan Weekly News - February 23, 1877 > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > In a message dated 5/9/2007 9:40:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > CAVAN WEEKLY NEWS, Friday, February 23, 1877 > > > > MARRIAGE. > > BOTHWELL and HEASLIP - February 22nd, in the Presbyterian Church, Cavan, > by > the Rev. James CARSON, assisted by the Rev. Gabriel COULTER, Mr. Gustavus > M. > Bothwell, merchant, Killeshandra, to Mary Jane, youngest daughter of Mr. > Samuel Heaslip, South Stanley Street, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. > > > in chelsea some heslins like my gran moms mom was sometimes HEASLIP not > heslin but she was heslin > > > Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist > using Genetics to connect > Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- > carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug > h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M > a.- and ever an growing list > List owner of > Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l > Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. 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In a message dated 5/9/2007 9:40:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: CAVAN WEEKLY NEWS, Friday, February 23, 1877 MARRIAGE. BOTHWELL and HEASLIP - February 22nd, in the Presbyterian Church, Cavan, by the Rev. James CARSON, assisted by the Rev. Gabriel COULTER, Mr. Gustavus M. Bothwell, merchant, Killeshandra, to Mary Jane, youngest daughter of Mr. Samuel Heaslip, South Stanley Street, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. in chelsea some heslins like my gran moms mom was sometimes HEASLIP not heslin but she was heslin Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

CAVAN WEEKLY NEWS, Friday, February 23, 1877 MARRIAGE. BOTHWELL and HEASLIP - February 22nd, in the Presbyterian Church, Cavan, by the Rev. James CARSON, assisted by the Rev. Gabriel COULTER, Mr. Gustavus M. Bothwell, merchant, Killeshandra, to Mary Jane, youngest daughter of Mr. Samuel Heaslip, South Stanley Street, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. DEATH. STAFFORD - Feb. 17, at Bridge Street, Cavan, after a short illness, Anne, fourth daughter of Mr. George Stafford, aged 22 years. "Her end was peace." LOCAL NEWS. A sermon will be preached in Cavan Church on Sunday, next, in aid of the funds of the Irish Society, by the Rev. T. O'MAHONY, D.D,, Professor of Irish, T.C.D. The sermon at the service in Cavan Church on next Thursday evening, will be preached by the Rev. W. P. MOORE. Subject: "The dark hours of Job." DIOCESE OF KILMORE, ELPHIN, AND ARDAGH. - At a meeting of the Board of Nomination of the parish of Swanlinbar, diocese of Kilmore, the Lord Bishop of the diocese presiding, on the 17th inst., in Cavan, the Rev. Alfred B. BEST, A.B., curate of Aghaderg, diocese of Dromore, was elected to the incumbency. Mr. Matthew CARROLL has been appointed Petty Sessions Clerk of Ballyconnell. OUTRAGE NEAR ARVA. - On the night of Monday, 19th inst., a party of armed men entered the house of a man named MURRAY, who lives in Cornaugh, on the road leading from Arva to Carrigallen. The unwelcome visitors roused Murray and family from their beds, presented their arms, ordered them to leave the place, and treated them roughly. The reason assigned for such summary dealing was that Murray's sons were in the habit of playing the fife accompanied with the drum for the "Cullies Lads," who are Protestants. The police are active; many arrests have been made. All parties concerned are Roman Catholics. - Correspondent. BAILLIEBOROUGH PETTY SESSIONS- Tuesday. (Before James SMALL, Esq., J.P., Capt. WARING, Esq., R.M., and Hugh K. SIMPSON, Esq., J.P.) Alleged Larceny of a Heifer. James O'BRIENS, a miserable-looking fellow, was put forward, charged by Sub-Constable Morris, Kingscourt, with stealing a heifer the property of Michael FARRELL, Tunnyduff. Witness said he saw defendant on the 6th inst., offering for sale a heifer in Kingscourt fair; arrested him on suspicion; the owner of the heifer afterwards identified the animal as his property. After hearing the information, the Bench returned the case for trial at next Cavan Assizes. Workhouse Delinquents. Thomas SIMPSON and James NULTY, juvenile inmates of the Bailieborough Workhouse, were charged by the Guardians with eloping from the Workhouse with the Union clothing, on the 11th inst. The Master, who appeared in charge of defendants, said it was their first offence. The youthful runaways were discharged with a caution. A Groom in Trouble. Sub-Constable Patrick NOLAN, charged Patrick GARGAN, with being drunk and disorderly while in charge of a dangerous stallion at Bailieborough, on the 8th instant. Witness said he saw defendant, who was drunk, leading a horse on a long rein, near the Model school gate, defendant seemed incapable of controlling the animal, and on being ordered by witness to go quietly home, he pulled up the horse and gave him some secret command which had the effect of stirring him to action, witness was immediately coiled by the rein, the horse at the same time ready to attach him, with some difficulty witness got released and ran to the barracks for assistance, the horse still following him, Sub-Constable M'GEE came to his assistance, when defendant drove off. Defendant, who has since taken the pledge against drink, was ordered to pay £2 and costs, or in default, one month's imprisonment. The liquor department of this court was thinly represented to-day, only a few crowned heads being in attendance. The constabulary are gradually bringing the "Gilbeyites," to a true sense of their position. (County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project)

CAVAN WEEKLY NEWS, Friday, February 16, 1877 BIRTHS. GRIFFITH - Feb. 14, at Tomkinroad Hosue, Belturbet, the wife of John Griffith, Esq., of a daughter. STONE - Feb. 14, at Danesfort, Cavan, the wife of Rev. W. H. Stone, A.M., of a daughter. MARRIAGES. BUCHANAN and HUDDLESTON - February 12, at St. Peter's Church, Dublin, by the Rev. M. W. JELLETT, LL.D., Joseph, eldest son of the late Robert Buchanan, Esq., Carrig House, Cavan, to Nannie, only surviving daughter of Francis Edwards Huddleston, Esq., Blackrock, County Dublin. BARTLEY and PLUNKET - February 8th, at the Church of St. Mary, Castleraghan, by the Rev. James BRADY, C.C., assisted by the Rev. P. BRIODY, C.C., Mountnugent, William Bartley, Esq., youngest son of the late P. Bartley, Esq., of Drumbride House, county Meath, and Prospect House, Mountnugent, to Mary Josephine, only daughter of Patrick Plunkett, Esq., Lismacanakan House, Mountnugent. GRIFFITH and ASHTON - on the 7th inst., at the Parish Church, Frodsham, Cheshire, by the Rev. W. C. COTTON, M.A., Vicar, Frederick Griffith, of Runcorn, Cheshire, Civil Engineer, to Emily Sophia Ashton, of the Manor House, Newton-by-Frodsham. Malcomson AND beattie - Feb. 13th, in Cavan Church, by the Rev. S. SHONE, A.M., John R. Malcomson, Irvinestown, county germanagh, to Sarah Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. Martin Beatie, Corglass House, Cavan. DEATHS. COLLIER - Feb. 11, at the Wesleyan Manse, Cavan, Martha, the beloved wife of the Rev. James Collier, in the 45th year of her age, after a lingering illness, borne with Christian resignation. Her end was peace. HARTLEY - February 8th, at 5, Hutchinson-street, Belfast, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. George Hartley, late of Cootehill. KNIPE - February 10, at her residence 39, Morehampton-road, Jane, widow of the late G. M. Knipe, Esq., J.P., Erne Hill, Belturbet, deeply lamented by her children. "Safe in the arms of Jesus." SMITH - Feb. 4, at College-street, Cavan, Maria Anna, daughter of Mr. James Smith, painter, aged 2 years and 2 months. WHITELAW - February 5, at Drumsna, of congestion of the lungs, Jane Isabella, widow of the late Wm. Whitelaw, Esq., of Kildallen Cottage, Belturbet. It may be truly saida, she fell asleep in Jesus. PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. Presbytery of Bailieborough. - The Bailieborough Presbytery met on Tuesday, 6th inst., in the Institute Bailieborough. The Rev. R. T. Simpson presided. The (sic) was a good attendance of the members. The commission in charge of Bellasis reported that they had made out a call from that congregation in favour of Mr. John EAKIN and forwarded it to the Presbytery of Strabane for Mr. Eakin's consideration. Inquiries were made in reference to the sermon on temperance, as ordered by the General Assembly, and it was found that most of the members present had preached on the subject on the first Sabbath in December. The Rev. James MISKELLY and the Rev. T. R. WHYTE were appointed a committee to prepare a letter of sympathy with the widow and family of the late Rev. John KING. William LUNDY, an elder in one of the congregations, having died recently, on the motion of the Rev. T. R. White, Corglass, a record expressive of his character, &c., was put on the Presbytery books. The Rev. P. W. White was chosen clerk of Presbytery in room of the late Rev. John King. The Rev. R. H. CLARKE was appointed licenser of marriages. The financial reports were ordered to be prepared and forwarded to the Rev. James Miskelly on or before the 21st instant, in order that they may be printed before the meeting of the Synod. The Rev. George BELLIS was nominated for the Moderatorship of the General Assembly. The Presbytery appointed their next meeting for the first Tuesday in April. The meeting was closed with the Benediction. (County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project)

CAVAN WEEKLY NEWS, Friday, February 9, 1877 BIRTH. LOUGH - February 3rd, at Cavan, the wife of M. Lough, jun., of a daughter. MARRIAGE. M'WILLIAM and MORELL - February 1, at the Second Presbyterian Church, Ballybay, by the father of the bride, assisted by the Rev. Charles Lucas MORELL, Dungannon, and the Rev. James Morell, Glenwherry, William M'William, solicitor, Monaghan, to Hessie Maria, daughter of the Rev. John H. Morell, Cumry Lodge, Ballybay, and grand-daughter of the late Rev. James Lowry DICKSON, vicar of Lavey, Co. Cavan. On Monday the monthly meeting of the Cavan Town Commissioners was adjourned for a week out of respect for the late Mr. James KENNEDY, who was one of their body, and a resolution expressing sympathy with Mrs. Kennedy in her sad bereavement was proposed by Mr. CAFFREY, seconded by Mr. O'HJANLON, and carried unanimously. Local Government Board, Dublin, Jan. 31st, 1877. Rev. Sir - I am directed by the Local Government Board for Ireland to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 24th inst., in reference to the enclosed book, "The Children's Friend," which it appears was found in the hands of one of the Roman Catholic children in the Cavan workhouse; and I am to state that the Local Government Board do not see any objection to this book being given to a Protestant child, but as its perusal by Roman Catholic children has been objected to by the Roman Catholic Chaplain, its distribution should be confined to the Protestant children of the Workhouse. (By Order of the Board.) B. Banks, Sec. CAVAN YOUNG MEN'S CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION. - A paper by the Rev. W. S. LITTLE, A.B., Incumbent of Derryheen, on the Life of Luther, will be read at the next meeting of the above Association on Monday evening next. A punctual attendance of the members is requested. CAVAN PETTY SESSIONS. - Monday. (Before Messrs. BABINGTON, MOORE, and DILLON.) The Constabulary summoned a number of persons for drunkenness. They were fined from 5s. to 10s. each. The board of Guardians of Cavan Union summoned Thomas GALLIGAN, Patt GAFFNEY, MICHAEL GALLIGAN, Thomas HALLIDAY, and David IRETON for neglecting to have their children vaccinated. As they had complied with the law since proceedings had been taken, they were only fined 6d each and costs. Mary A. BRADY summoned Luke OLWILL for trespass of cattle. Adjourned. Anne KANE, a ticket-of-leave woman, was charged with stealing a hen, the property of John REHILL of Cullies. Rose REHILL said the hen (identified) was stolen from her in the second week of January; she found it with Miss STUART. Mr. Charles STUART said he heard that Mrs. Rehill had lost a hen; he saw her passing and called her in; showed her the hen his sister had bought; she claimed it. Miss Stuart proved having bought the hen at 1s 2d from the prisoner. Sub-Constable HEENAN said he heard Mrs. Rehill had lost a hen; went to her and found it so; Mrs. Rehill told him that it had been offered for sale to Mrs. SHERIDAN before being sold to Miss Stuart; went to Mrs. Sheridan and got a description of the person; arrested the prisoner, who was identified by Miss Stuart and Mrs. Sheridan; the prisoner is a ticket-of-leave woman; she had £4 on her person and £6 with Head Constable STORY at the time. She was sentenced to six months' imprisonment. Mr. Babington highly commended Sub-Constable Heenan for his cleverness on this, and several other occasions. (County Cavan Newspaper Transcription Project)

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I understand that initially leases were for about a hundred years or perhaps 3 lives. When that period of time was up in the mid 1700's for instance, and their lease wasn't renewed for one reason or another, men had to find work elsewhere. How did they find available leases in perhaps another townland, parish or even County? I would appreciate hearing anyones thoughts or understanding of the lease system. Anne Quinn Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

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Does anyone have information on Patrick Caffrey (b Ireland)and Mary McCabe (bABT1861 Ireland) who had children Kate, Patrick, Michael, Bernard, Rose, and John. I have information from the EllisIsland site that Mary and children came to America in 1901 originating from Kilnalek,County Cavan, Ireland and settled in Massachussetts. Michael Caffrey married Mae E. McCarthy. 1901_IMMIGRATION_Ireland>Liverpool>MA (1901-0214) EllisIsland.org Caffrey family (Irish, residence: Kilnaleck,County Cavan,Ireland, arrival 1901-0214 ship: Majestic from Liverpool) 0017 Caffrey,Mary_mwf40 0018 Caffrey,Kate_swf20 0019 Caffrey,Patrick_swm18 0020 Caffrey,Michael_swm11 0021 Caffrey,Bernard_swm10 0022 Caffrey,Rose_swf08 0023 Caffrey,John_swm25 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

In a message dated 4/26/2007 3:03:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: People talking here that don't really have any idea what they are saying. Herm.. incase you mean me do a google alert and search for APOE you'll get emails with 40% on cholesterol and 40% dementia ands the rest will be new things they find apoe does and you can make up your own mind Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In transcribing church records from the 1800's on the Dingle Peninsula, it seems that every other one was a dispensation with second or third degree of "consanguity". (*I think I spelled that wrong). Susan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY COUSINS MARRYING??? In a message dated 4/24/2007 4:55:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Wait, what is wrong with 2nd cousins marrying? I thought it was prohibited if you were first cousins or closer... if you have bad genes its bad it multiplies the flaws and if the whole small towen does it you get regional deseases ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Wait, what is wrong with 2nd cousins marrying? I thought it was prohibited if you were first cousins or closer... [email protected] wrote: In a message dated 4/3/2007 9:33:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Message: 14 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 20:31:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Mary Pat Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] COUSINS MARRYING??? To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I remember Dad (Mayo man) singing " I'm my own Grandpa" and we came to find out after Mom's passing that they were 2nd cousins .. No problems, except for how people made them feel about "what they did", ... We never let on to Dad about our new found knowledge .. They were great, so in love with each other, we were fine - however the narrow minds still remain about .. MaryPat this started the conversation Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

In a message dated 4/24/2007 8:48:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Unless there are known genetic defects in the lineage of those second cousins then marrying a second cousin is actually genetically safer than marrying a total stranger. Even marrying first cousins can be genetically safer when there is an absence of genetic defects. Most of the prohibitions on cousin marriage are some very strange and unscientific US laws. See these links. http://www.consang.net/ http://www.cousincouples.com/ and http://www.cuddleinternational.org/ Dennis Reiley well this assumes several things 1] that doctors recognized it as generic 2] society understands curing one disease can allow those people long eough to live into another worse disease 3] that doctors and other med people dont just assume that the behavior is natural 4] again med and other people look and see what peoples genealogy is and causes of death. what do i mean well a gene in 1993 was discovered called apoe. the list of chores apoe does is growing all the time and each discovery is very interesting. this is 14 yrs ago. the first is that apoe is the gene that controls the movement of lipids. lipids is cholesterol. thus the medicine to stop this is lipitor. In 1980 cholesterol was the public enemy #1 and since then we have been cutting the rate of hardemning of the arteries to a point it is no longer the major killer. in 1908 we discovered Alzhimers by chance. it was a rare disease we managed to catch thus the disease wears the doctors name. but for the next 70 + years it remained rare. today it is concidered epidemic. what changed 1980 we took cholesterol out if our life. but Cholesterol is what our cells make their membranes from and it is the building block of the brain. so as the levels of lipids dropped people didnt die of the heart attack at 55yrs. Instead they maybe had a stroke or a heart attack and survived. any strange behavoir was thus credited to the stroke. The secondary funtion of apoe is to create a protien in the brain called amyloid beta. amyloid beta is the cause of alzhimers. so when people died of heart attacks the amyloid beta never got to do its job until we ditched cholesterol. Suddenly an epidemic. The funny thing 17 years post discovery is most neuros dont want to except this why. what is the need of docs to treat neuro diseases caused by genes. at the same time cardio docs worship at the altar of lipitor. do they really want to tell you eat rabbit food and stop the heart attack at 55 but youll get dementia. what would you say? now lets say ardagh and nevin are full of people who have lived their for centuries. in the 1700s people didnt travel much since their lives were based on farming. so they didnt marry people from cork .they married people in the town. this eventually means everyone in the town shares the same genes charateristics. there is one isle off italy where the whole town is cholesterol free no matter what they eat. in poland several citioes have strange diseases same situations. my wife is 58 from a parents who come from a small town in south italy. every relative i can get cept her mom is arterial sclorosis massive coronery,stroke. her grand dad was placed in a mental facility . not a place for stroke victims,. they took him home and he was never quit right. so then her uncle dies of alzhimners at 75 but he had strokes and heart attacks and lived so any behavior problmems were due to them. my wife is the 1st to be competley heart health on 6 pills. and probaly has 3 types of dementia.its not until you see cause of deaths that all this takes form. genealogy is the key to this. personaly i think this strange dementia is from a village where they did exactly what we are talking about. she is in year 25 of the dementia behavior meaning it started at 30ish ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.