I hear you Michael. I don't think the man who asked me uses email so I said I would ask on his behalf. There is no money changing hands on this or any other enquiry I make to Carlow Rootsweb. If ever there is, I will be sure to say so. All the best for now, Turtle On 22 Aug 2012, at 15:06, michael purcell wrote: > I know I have stated this before but I have found that it is always best > practice to invite people with enquiries to subscribe to Carlow IGP > themselves, rather than have information passed through a third party. > I believe in this instance this may not apply to you Turtle but it would > cut out the concern that another may be charging a fee for information > shared freely on the List. > I have been made aware of such previous enquiries on the CarlowIGP (and > lately on other county internet sites ) on behalf of "a friend" and the > "friend" was charged a hefty fee for information obtained as a result of > such postings. > > > On 22 August 2012 10:51, Turtle Bunbury (History) > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I met a man last night at the launch of 'The Sugar Factory & Carlow >> Remembers' exhibition who is curious to know more about the Carlow roots of >> Cathal Brugha (1874–1922), the revolutionary and Minister of Defence who >> was killed during the Civil War. >> >> Cathal Brugha was born Charles William St John Burgess 18 July 1874 at 13 >> Richmond Avenue, Fairview, Dublin. He was the tenth of fourteen children >> (four sons and ten daughters) born to Thomas Burgess (d. 1899), art dealer >> and native of Carlow, and Maryanne Burgess (née Flynn). Thomas Burgess was >> a Protestant but his wife was a Catholic, and the children were raised as >> Catholics. (Some accounts say he was disinherited for marrying a Catholic). >> Thomas Burgess was also a fervent Parnellite and may have been a Fenian. >> (Source: James Quinn, ‘Brugha, Cathal’, Dictionary of Irish Biography >> (Cambridge University Press, 2009), vol 1, pp 951–954.) >> >> Given that Maryanne Burgess was previously Flynn, I believe I have located >> her on the 1901 census as a 57 year old widow who is resident of Ardilaun >> Terrace, Dublin, along with four daughters and two sons, including Charles >> (aka Cathal) who is described as a 24 year old commercial traveler. >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rotunda/Ardilaun_Terrace/1330115/ >> >> Anyone with any further clues? >> >> All best for now, >> >> Turtle >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

that is good Turtle, and should there be a fee charged or payment made for data obtained from willing members or from the site in general for research or publication fees I suggest it could be passed to Michael Brennan to help maintain CarlowIGP. Recently some of us were in a position to help Michael update his system thus ensuring the continuation of the CarlowIGP service. I know that this assistance was very much appreciated. I only mention this because I am aware that some self appointed "genealogists" have sought assistance on CarlowIGP and other county sites claiming they are helping "a friend" "a man" "a woman" "a neighbour" and have charged a hefty fee for information freely shared. I would always ask the internetless / non-emailing enquirer if they would permit me to publish their address for any responses, they are usually only too willing to cooperate. Your Carlow Sentinel extracts.were very interesting, I hope you have some more in store for us, mick. On 22 August 2012 15:57, Turtle Bunbury <[email protected]> wrote: > I hear you Michael. I don't think the man who asked me uses email so I > said I would ask on his behalf. There is no money changing hands on this or > any other enquiry I make to Carlow Rootsweb. If ever there is, I will be > sure to say so. All the best for now, Turtle > > > On 22 Aug 2012, at 15:06, michael purcell wrote: > > > I know I have stated this before but I have found that it is always > best > > practice to invite people with enquiries to subscribe to Carlow IGP > > themselves, rather than have information passed through a third party. > > I believe in this instance this may not apply to you Turtle but it would > > cut out the concern that another may be charging a fee for information > > shared freely on the List. > > I have been made aware of such previous enquiries on the CarlowIGP (and > > lately on other county internet sites ) on behalf of "a friend" and the > > "friend" was charged a hefty fee for information obtained as a result of > > such postings. > > > > > > On 22 August 2012 10:51, Turtle Bunbury (History) > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> I met a man last night at the launch of 'The Sugar Factory & Carlow > >> Remembers' exhibition who is curious to know more about the Carlow > roots of > >> Cathal Brugha (1874–1922), the revolutionary and Minister of Defence who > >> was killed during the Civil War. > >> > >> Cathal Brugha was born Charles William St John Burgess 18 July 1874 at > 13 > >> Richmond Avenue, Fairview, Dublin. He was the tenth of fourteen children > >> (four sons and ten daughters) born to Thomas Burgess (d. 1899), art > dealer > >> and native of Carlow, and Maryanne Burgess (née Flynn). Thomas Burgess > was > >> a Protestant but his wife was a Catholic, and the children were raised > as > >> Catholics. (Some accounts say he was disinherited for marrying a > Catholic). > >> Thomas Burgess was also a fervent Parnellite and may have been a Fenian. > >> (Source: James Quinn, ‘Brugha, Cathal’, Dictionary of Irish Biography > >> (Cambridge University Press, 2009), vol 1, pp 951–954.) > >> > >> Given that Maryanne Burgess was previously Flynn, I believe I have > located > >> her on the 1901 census as a 57 year old widow who is resident of > Ardilaun > >> Terrace, Dublin, along with four daughters and two sons, including > Charles > >> (aka Cathal) who is described as a 24 year old commercial traveler. > >> > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rotunda/Ardilaun_Terrace/1330115/ > >> > >> Anyone with any further clues? > >> > >> All best for now, > >> > >> Turtle > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >