The Earl of Kenmare is noted on many documents within the PPP as landlord.... On 17 May 2012 19:29, Roger Nowlan <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings All! > > Within the last week or so I made a posting where I identified a landowner > in the Ballyellin area as “Earl of Kanmare” (sic Kenmare). > > I have now researched who this person might have been and find that it was > someone from the Browne family, no doubt someone related to the “Browne” in > “Browne-Clayton papers”. > The Earlship was created in 1801 and the ancestor of the 2nd Earl of > Kenmare (the one mentioned in the will I discussed in my Email) was a > Thomas Browne, 4th Viscount Kenmare. > > Information on this ancestor is found at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Browne,_4th_Viscount_Kenmare > and I note in particular this family’s connection to the Jacobite cause > and its Roman Catholic affiliation. > Here is the relevant excerpt from the webpage identified above: > > “ > This was an Irish peerage created after the removal of James II from the > English throne, > but during the period when James was de facto king of Ireland, before the > conquest of Ireland by William III. > > The first and second viscounts had fought for James II but seem never to > have been formally attainted under William. > Consequently, the peerage remained on the Irish patent roll in a > constitutionally ambiguous position, but was not formally recognized by the > Protestant political establishment. > > Thomas Browne was reportedly educated at Westminster School until the > death of his father in 1736. > > Browne's older brother, Valentine, had died in 1728, so Thomas inherited > the peerage and the estate (of more than 120,000 acres) intact. > > Repeated attempts to persuade him to convert to the English established > church came to nothing, even though his refusal cost him a university > matriculation at Oxford and a place in the English House of Commons. > > In 1750, he married Anne Cooke, daughter of Thomas Cooke of Painstown, > County Carlow, with whom he had two children. > > “ > > Bye for now, > > Roger > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe the Carlow connection came through the Cooke family of Oak Park, Carlow. The Kenmare Papers are in the Public Record Office Northern Ireland, they may be searched via Google. On 17 May 2012 21:16, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > The Earl of Kenmare is noted on many documents within the PPP as > landlord.... > > > On 17 May 2012 19:29, Roger Nowlan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Greetings All! >> >> Within the last week or so I made a posting where I identified a >> landowner in the Ballyellin area as “Earl of Kanmare” (sic Kenmare). >> >> I have now researched who this person might have been and find that it >> was someone from the Browne family, no doubt someone related to the >> “Browne” in “Browne-Clayton papers”. >> The Earlship was created in 1801 and the ancestor of the 2nd Earl of >> Kenmare (the one mentioned in the will I discussed in my Email) was a >> Thomas Browne, 4th Viscount Kenmare. >> >> Information on this ancestor is found at >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Browne,_4th_Viscount_Kenmare >> and I note in particular this family’s connection to the Jacobite cause >> and its Roman Catholic affiliation. >> Here is the relevant excerpt from the webpage identified above: >> >> “ >> This was an Irish peerage created after the removal of James II from the >> English throne, >> but during the period when James was de facto king of Ireland, before the >> conquest of Ireland by William III. >> >> The first and second viscounts had fought for James II but seem never to >> have been formally attainted under William. >> Consequently, the peerage remained on the Irish patent roll in a >> constitutionally ambiguous position, but was not formally recognized by the >> Protestant political establishment. >> >> Thomas Browne was reportedly educated at Westminster School until the >> death of his father in 1736. >> >> Browne's older brother, Valentine, had died in 1728, so Thomas inherited >> the peerage and the estate (of more than 120,000 acres) intact. >> >> Repeated attempts to persuade him to convert to the English established >> church came to nothing, even though his refusal cost him a university >> matriculation at Oxford and a place in the English House of Commons. >> >> In 1750, he married Anne Cooke, daughter of Thomas Cooke of Painstown, >> County Carlow, with whom he had two children. >> >> “ >> >> Bye for now, >> >> Roger >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >