Thank you Turtle, I have also shared the data with the 8th Earl Donoughmore and the wider Hely-Hutchinson family. I have been corresponding with Peter Bunbury in Australia for over 20 years, he may be able to identify our "agreeable oddity". On 16 July 2012 17:37, Turtle Bunbury <[email protected]> wrote: > Many thanks for all this Michael, excellent information as ever which > I have shared with the wider Butler and Bunbury families. I'm inclined > to agree re: Harry Bunbury but have also passed this onto Peter > Bunbury in Australia who may have further insight on this one. All > best for now, Turtle > > > On 15 Jul 2012, at 14:06, michael purcell wrote: > > > The Harry Bunbury mentioned in part two is I believe Henry Bunbury > > of PPP > > fame, he signed himself "Hen Bunbury" on about 200 documents. His > > address ( > > 1780 - 1830s ) was noted as Bunbury Lodge and Johnstown and Athy > > Street, > > he was a Magistrate, Justice of the Peace and general busybody and was > > himself often involved in bother with the Byrnes, he constantly > > proffered > > Informations / Examinations before his fellow Magistrates. > > > > On 15 July 2012 13:35, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>> continued from post dated 7th July. > >> Pat Purcell Papers. > >> Letter, Genealogical enquiry, Dated, May, 1931. > >> From: J. Hallam [ ? ], > >> Threadneedle Street, City of London, England. > >> To: Pat Purcell, > >> Town Hall, Carlow, Ireland. > >> Part two of a FAMILY CHRONICLE. > >> (Continued, abbreviated extracts edited by Michael Purcell. > >> Further information on the Hely-Hutchinsons mentioned herein and the > >> famous, busybody, philanthropist, playwright, and religious writer, > >> Hannah > >> More may be sourced via Google. ). > >> Having given the foregoing account of my paternal relatives, I must > >> proceed to that of my maternal ones. > >> My mother was the only daughter of a Carlow gentleman of the name of > >> Whelan, who by his first marriage had a son who married my father's > >> sister > >> Ann Steuart, whose children, of whom, I shall speak presently, were > >> thus > >> doubly connected with myself, as in the case of the Butlers of > >> Broonville. > >> My grandfather Whelan must I think have been dead at the time of my > >> birth > >> in 1792 or soon after, as I have no remembrance of him, but my > >> earliest > >> childish reminiscences are connected with my venerable grandmother, > >> Anna > >> Maria Whelan, formerly Nickson, who always lived with us till her > >> death, > >> which took place at the advanced age of eighty-five. > >> She was one of a very large family, her sisters being of the classic > >> number of the muses, and as they all but one married and had > >> families, my > >> connection is necessarily a very large one ; indeed my daughters > >> sometimes > >> jokingly say it must extend over half Ireland. > >> I have said that this is to be the family chronicle, so I am bound > >> to give > >> the names of my great aunts, and of some of their descendants. > >> Their name > >> was Nickson, (1) Elizabeth, (2) Rachel, (3) Christiana, (4) Anna > >> Maria, ( > >> my grandmother, Mrs Whelan ), (5) Lydia, (6) Hester, (7) Mary, (8) > >> Letitia, > >> (9) Harriet, (10) Francis. > >> My eldest great aunt, Elizabeth, married Mr. Bunbury, a gentleman of > >> landed property in the County of Carlow. ( of whom more anon ). She > >> had but > >> one child, a son, Harry Bunbury, whom I remember as an agreeable > >> oddity ; > >> he died unmarried > >> (2) Rachel married the Reverend Christopher Harvey, D.D., of Kyle, > >> in the > >> County Wexford. > >> She had one son, the late William Harvey, and two daughters, Mrs > >> Freke ( > >> mother of the present Lord Carberry, and of the Honourable Mrs > >> Charles > >> Bernard ), and Mrs Randall, whose only child is now Mrs Hastings > >> Parker. > >> My great aunt Rachel Harvey lived to the age of ninety-one. She > >> used to > >> pay an annual visit to Steuart's Lodge, where her coming was always a > >> matter of rejoicing, and her daughters were two of the most > >> fascinating > >> creatures I ever knew. > >> (3) My great aunt Christina was named after her great aunt and > >> godmother, > >> Mrs Hutchinson, the wife of her great uncle, Richard Hutchinson, a > >> gentleman of large property, and the possessor of Knocklofty, near > >> Clonmell, County Tipperary. She, Christina, was adopted by the > >> Hutchinsons, as they had no children, and became their heiress. She > >> married > >> a barrister of the name of Hely, who added the name of Hutchinson > >> to his > >> own name when he succeeded to the estates. He was afterwards > >> Provost of > >> Trinity College, and Secretary of State. He was offered a peerage, > >> which he > >> declined for himself but accepted for his wife, who thus became > >> Baroness of > >> Donoughmore. > >> The title was raised to that of Earl, in the person of her eldest > >> son, > >> Richard, and he dying unmarried, her second son, John Hely- > >> Hutchinson, > >> became Earl of Donoughmore. Previous to his accession to his > >> brother's > >> earldom he had received the title of Lord Hutchinson for his > >> services in > >> Egypt, where he commanded the army after the death of Sir Ralph > >> Abercrombie, and achieved those brilliant victories which wrested > >> Egypt > >> from the French. > >> I have seen two beautiful boxes given by the Sultan to two brothers > >> of > >> Lord Hutchinson, who had been sent to an Embassy to > >> Constantinople ; one > >> was a blood stone with a crescent of diamonds on the lid, the other > >> of > >> purple enamel with a star of diamonds ; they were lined with gold. > >> This second Earl of Donoughmore was succeeded by his nephew, also > >> named > >> John, who had first distinguished himself in the retreat of > >> Corunna, and > >> afterwards acted a conspicuous part in aiding the escape of General > >> Lavalette. > >> John was a personal acquaintance of mine, as after his return from > >> Spain > >> he came to visit my mother, who was a favourite cousin of the > >> Hutchinsons. > >> This John was father of the present Earl ( 1862 ). > >> My great aunt, Christina, the first Lady Donoughmore, besides the two > >> earls I have mentioned here, had three sons, viz., Abraham, > >> Christopher > >> and Lorenzo. And also three daughters, Honourable Mary, married to > >> a Mr. > >> Smith, Honourable Margaret, and Prudence. The two latter died > >> unmarried. > >> They were great friends of Hannah More, and in order to enjoy her > >> society > >> took a place near Barley Wood, where during their latter years they > >> always > >> resided. > >> My fourth great aunt (5) Lydia married John Nunn, > >> Esquire, ...........( to > >> be continued )............. > >> [ Note added by Michael Purcell, 2012 - > >> I have posted some of the letters / enquiries, dating from 1920s to > >> 1980s > >> that were sent to Pat Purcell during his lifetime. > >> Among the 100s of letters in the PPP this letter of 52, double sided > >> hand-written pages, is one of the most interesting. > >> The above extracts were edited and abbreviated by me, now on page > >> 22 of 52 > >> pages. ] > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Having consulted with Peter Bunbury, I'd advise that Harry Bunbury, the "agreeable oddity", was almost certainly the only surviving son of Elizabeth Nixon (Nickson) by hear marriage to the Rev. Joseph Bunbury, Rector of Urglin (a member of the Bunburys of Johnstown) circa 1750. They had two sons Henry (1753-1819), and Benjamin who died young. Henry (Harry) did not marry and lived in Bunbury Lodge, Russeltown, Co. Carlow. However, he had five sons by his lover, Margery Walsh. There are several Dublin Deeds relating to this de facto arrangement which name three of the sons as George, William Henry and Abraham. Elsewhere Thomas Bunbury of Russellstown was named as another son. It is also plausible that Robert Bunbury of Ardenhue (whose name has featured on this list) was another of his sons. The Catholic branch of the Bunbury family in Carlow are this believed to descend from Harry. All best, TB On 16 Jul 2012, at 18:23, michael purcell wrote: > Thank you Turtle, I have also shared the data with the 8th Earl Donoughmore > and the wider Hely-Hutchinson family. I have been corresponding with Peter > Bunbury in Australia for over 20 years, he may be able to identify our > "agreeable oddity". > > On 16 July 2012 17:37, Turtle Bunbury <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Many thanks for all this Michael, excellent information as ever which >> I have shared with the wider Butler and Bunbury families. I'm inclined >> to agree re: Harry Bunbury but have also passed this onto Peter >> Bunbury in Australia who may have further insight on this one. All >> best for now, Turtle >> >> >> On 15 Jul 2012, at 14:06, michael purcell wrote: >> >>> The Harry Bunbury mentioned in part two is I believe Henry Bunbury >>> of PPP >>> fame, he signed himself "Hen Bunbury" on about 200 documents. His >>> address ( >>> 1780 - 1830s ) was noted as Bunbury Lodge and Johnstown and Athy >>> Street, >>> he was a Magistrate, Justice of the Peace and general busybody and was >>> himself often involved in bother with the Byrnes, he constantly >>> proffered >>> Informations / Examinations before his fellow Magistrates. >>> >>> On 15 July 2012 13:35, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>> continued from post dated 7th July. >>>> Pat Purcell Papers. >>>> Letter, Genealogical enquiry, Dated, May, 1931. >>>> From: J. Hallam [ ? ], >>>> Threadneedle Street, City of London, England. >>>> To: Pat Purcell, >>>> Town Hall, Carlow, Ireland. >>>> Part two of a FAMILY CHRONICLE. >>>> (Continued, abbreviated extracts edited by Michael Purcell. >>>> Further information on the Hely-Hutchinsons mentioned herein and the >>>> famous, busybody, philanthropist, playwright, and religious writer, >>>> Hannah >>>> More may be sourced via Google. ). >>>> Having given the foregoing account of my paternal relatives, I must >>>> proceed to that of my maternal ones. >>>> My mother was the only daughter of a Carlow gentleman of the name of >>>> Whelan, who by his first marriage had a son who married my father's >>>> sister >>>> Ann Steuart, whose children, of whom, I shall speak presently, were >>>> thus >>>> doubly connected with myself, as in the case of the Butlers of >>>> Broonville. >>>> My grandfather Whelan must I think have been dead at the time of my >>>> birth >>>> in 1792 or soon after, as I have no remembrance of him, but my >>>> earliest >>>> childish reminiscences are connected with my venerable grandmother, >>>> Anna >>>> Maria Whelan, formerly Nickson, who always lived with us till her >>>> death, >>>> which took place at the advanced age of eighty-five. >>>> She was one of a very large family, her sisters being of the classic >>>> number of the muses, and as they all but one married and had >>>> families, my >>>> connection is necessarily a very large one ; indeed my daughters >>>> sometimes >>>> jokingly say it must extend over half Ireland. >>>> I have said that this is to be the family chronicle, so I am bound >>>> to give >>>> the names of my great aunts, and of some of their descendants. >>>> Their name >>>> was Nickson, (1) Elizabeth, (2) Rachel, (3) Christiana, (4) Anna >>>> Maria, ( >>>> my grandmother, Mrs Whelan ), (5) Lydia, (6) Hester, (7) Mary, (8) >>>> Letitia, >>>> (9) Harriet, (10) Francis. >>>> My eldest great aunt, Elizabeth, married Mr. Bunbury, a gentleman of >>>> landed property in the County of Carlow. ( of whom more anon ). She >>>> had but >>>> one child, a son, Harry Bunbury, whom I remember as an agreeable >>>> oddity ; >>>> he died unmarried >>>> (2) Rachel married the Reverend Christopher Harvey, D.D., of Kyle, >>>> in the >>>> County Wexford. >>>> She had one son, the late William Harvey, and two daughters, Mrs >>>> Freke ( >>>> mother of the present Lord Carberry, and of the Honourable Mrs >>>> Charles >>>> Bernard ), and Mrs Randall, whose only child is now Mrs Hastings >>>> Parker. >>>> My great aunt Rachel Harvey lived to the age of ninety-one. She >>>> used to >>>> pay an annual visit to Steuart's Lodge, where her coming was always a >>>> matter of rejoicing, and her daughters were two of the most >>>> fascinating >>>> creatures I ever knew. >>>> (3) My great aunt Christina was named after her great aunt and >>>> godmother, >>>> Mrs Hutchinson, the wife of her great uncle, Richard Hutchinson, a >>>> gentleman of large property, and the possessor of Knocklofty, near >>>> Clonmell, County Tipperary. She, Christina, was adopted by the >>>> Hutchinsons, as they had no children, and became their heiress. She >>>> married >>>> a barrister of the name of Hely, who added the name of Hutchinson >>>> to his >>>> own name when he succeeded to the estates. He was afterwards >>>> Provost of >>>> Trinity College, and Secretary of State. He was offered a peerage, >>>> which he >>>> declined for himself but accepted for his wife, who thus became >>>> Baroness of >>>> Donoughmore. >>>> The title was raised to that of Earl, in the person of her eldest >>>> son, >>>> Richard, and he dying unmarried, her second son, John Hely- >>>> Hutchinson, >>>> became Earl of Donoughmore. Previous to his accession to his >>>> brother's >>>> earldom he had received the title of Lord Hutchinson for his >>>> services in >>>> Egypt, where he commanded the army after the death of Sir Ralph >>>> Abercrombie, and achieved those brilliant victories which wrested >>>> Egypt >>>> from the French. >>>> I have seen two beautiful boxes given by the Sultan to two brothers >>>> of >>>> Lord Hutchinson, who had been sent to an Embassy to >>>> Constantinople ; one >>>> was a blood stone with a crescent of diamonds on the lid, the other >>>> of >>>> purple enamel with a star of diamonds ; they were lined with gold. >>>> This second Earl of Donoughmore was succeeded by his nephew, also >>>> named >>>> John, who had first distinguished himself in the retreat of >>>> Corunna, and >>>> afterwards acted a conspicuous part in aiding the escape of General >>>> Lavalette. >>>> John was a personal acquaintance of mine, as after his return from >>>> Spain >>>> he came to visit my mother, who was a favourite cousin of the >>>> Hutchinsons. >>>> This John was father of the present Earl ( 1862 ). >>>> My great aunt, Christina, the first Lady Donoughmore, besides the two >>>> earls I have mentioned here, had three sons, viz., Abraham, >>>> Christopher >>>> and Lorenzo. And also three daughters, Honourable Mary, married to >>>> a Mr. >>>> Smith, Honourable Margaret, and Prudence. The two latter died >>>> unmarried. >>>> They were great friends of Hannah More, and in order to enjoy her >>>> society >>>> took a place near Barley Wood, where during their latter years they >>>> always >>>> resided. >>>> My fourth great aunt (5) Lydia married John Nunn, >>>> Esquire, ...........( to >>>> be continued )............. >>>> [ Note added by Michael Purcell, 2012 - >>>> I have posted some of the letters / enquiries, dating from 1920s to >>>> 1980s >>>> that were sent to Pat Purcell during his lifetime. >>>> Among the 100s of letters in the PPP this letter of 52, double sided >>>> hand-written pages, is one of the most interesting. >>>> The above extracts were edited and abbreviated by me, now on page >>>> 22 of 52 >>>> pages. ] >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message