Thanks very much for this Was the sand pit just east of the railway line and south of St Killian's Crescent ? Where did Comrades of the Great War Club meet ? PD 28 April 2012 15:17, Terry Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > This is on the Carlow site and Turtle Bunbury site, > > > > 30th April: Died Owen Rice, aged 26 years, Factory Hand, Staplestown Road, > Carlow. Shot by Crown Forces. (Transcribed by Mary Corcoran - unusual > entries in Carlow Cathedral Death Register). An employee of the Carlow Boot > Factory and 'practically the only support of his mother', he was shot about > 20 or 30 yards from his own front door on Staplestown Road. His death > occurred on a Saturday evening when 'a large number of young men were as > usual engaged in a game of pitch and toss in a place known as the Sandpit, > in a rather populous district. Naturally when the shooting began the crowds > ran in all directions and the wonder is more tragedies did not happen. > Naturally when the shooting began the crowds ran in all directions and the > wonder is more tragedies did not happen.' 'Michael Byrne , ex-soldier, who > said he had fought in France, Salouika, Macedonia, Palestine, Sudan, etc., > deposed that he was a relation of the deceased. He came home on the night in > question about 20 minutes to ten, as he had been at the Comrades of the > Great War Club. He asked the officer to let him do something for Rice who > was lying on the ground. The officer refused.' Owen Rice's funeral was > marked by the closure of all business establishments and factories in the > town from 8:30 until 4pm. 'Included in the thousands that marched in the > procession were more than twelve hundred members of the Carlow Sacred Heart > Sodality of which Owen was an exemplary and devoted member. The Banners of > the Sodality formed an imposing feature of the cortege, and many people in > the procession could not conceal their emotion as the coffin was borne past > his mother's lonely door.' (PPP) > > > > As a side note the death of Owen cause rife between Curran's of Granby Row > the Rice's of Stapletowns Road. The Curran's of Granby Row are related to > me via my Granfather,. The Curran's disowned one of theirs (a William > Curran) due to him been in the Army and at the Comrades of the Great War > Club on the night of Owens death.To make matters worse William Curran's > Sister was married to Owen's Cousin and closed ranks with her Rice in-laws. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: CARLOMAN2 <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2012, 5:47 > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] James Duffy 1891- 1921. > > I accept what I related was "hearsay", he did say it and I did hear it. > > > When did the Auxiliaries arrive in Carlow? > > Were the tans ever there? > > Were the RIC armed or were only the Auxiliaries ? > > If all were armed during this period were the RIC armed prior to the > troubles ? > > One last question, is there any record of a civilian shot near the railway > bridge on staplestown road? > > PD > > On 27 April 2012 09:14, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > there are no reports in the Nationalist or other sources of a raid on > > Fitzpatrick's Pub during this period, certainly the premises was not > > ever destroyed by fire. > > The second incident, shooting and burying Black and Tans, never > happened. > > The only British constable / soldier / auxiliary man shot in the vicinity > > of the Mall was James Duffy. > > I > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >