Thanks Trevor, I hope to get to a lecture at 1oc today in Trinity College , I'll pop next door to National Library to check for original copy of Carlow Sentinel. I did not realise the Clowrys mentioned in the news article were directly related to you, that leaves us related through the button-hole. Approx first-cousins 4 times removed via the BH. Your great grandmother musta been a "decent auld skin" and she smuggling in a shirt with "novel muffler" attached for me poor granduncle Mick lodged in the Jail of Carlow. !. As we say down the country "you did not lick the dacent streak off the road".