Thanks everyone for the Ellis info. Mick, was the Frank Ellis who died in 2001 about 91 years old? 'My' Francis Ellis was bp. Nov. 27, 1910 in Carlow, the youngest of the family. I don't follow the female lines in my tree past their first generation as mine is a single surname study of Bowles but Frank's mother would have been Mary Bowles so to me he would qualify as one of 'my' Bowles. If so that makes history for me. After 9 years of research, he would be the very first descendant of my Bowles line that I have traced to a living personal memory! Now I just need to find one still living! And J.J. you mention that William Ellis moved from Dublin to Carlow to work as a compositor. That would have been in the 1890's? You're referring to the William Ellis who married Mary Bowles in Carlow in 1895? Also, you knew their sons John, Dick and Joseph? This is really record setting. For me my Bowles have always been back in the 1700's and 1800's. This is the very first time I've ever had first person memories of anyone in my line! Tom > Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 17:34:47 +0100 > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry+Bowels > > Before he joined the Insurance Company, Frank Ellis was the general manager > of the Dublin based "Bookie Offices" for Frank Slater. > Following the death of his wife Frank retired to St Bridget's Hospital in > Carlow, he gave me a copy of his booklet " Memories of Frank Ellis" > shortly before he died in 2001. > > On 23 May 2013 16:52, Jj Woods <woodsjj@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Slight correction: Frank was the man involved with the insurance and Joe, I > > think, was a carpenter/builder. > > > > > > > > On 23 May 2013 16:37, Jj Woods <woodsjj@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I don't know if there are any members of that Ellis family still living > > in > > > Carlow. I know there was an Ellis family living in JKL Avenue but I don't > > > think they are related. I could be wrong. > > > > > > A number of your Ellis family were involved in the printing trade. I > > > believe William may have moved to Carlow from Dublin to work as a > > > compositor (now commonly called a typesetter) in the Nationalist and > > > Leinster Times. His son, John, was the Works Manager in 'The Nationalist' > > > for very many years. He was an absolute gentleman. Another son, Richard > > > (Dick) also worked in 'The Nationalist' and Joseph was involved in the > > > Insurance business. Dick was a bit of a poet as well and also a lovely > > man. > > > > > > John (or Johnny as he was known) had sons also involved in the printing > > > business. The eldest, Johnny Jnr., was a journalist, starting in the > > > Nationalist and ending up in the newsroom of RTE. I think he has family > > and > > > they are probably in the Dublin area. William (or Billy as he was known) > > > was also a compositor and for many years was in charge of the newspaper > > > make-up. He was unmarried. A third son, Brendan, was also a compositor > > and > > > in the late '60s he moved to Naas to work in the Leinster Leader. He died > > > unexpectedly in 1993. He had three sons. > > > > > > I think a daughter of the original William was married to a man by the > > > name of Harvey and their son, Harry, also worked in the Nationalist as a > > > compositor. I believe the family lived in Charlotte Street near the > > > junction with Brown Street. I think Harry had siblings but I do no know > > for > > > certain. Sometime in the '60s Harry's wife inherited a hotel in Gardiner > > > Street, Dublin and Harry and family moved up there to manage the > > business. > > > I believe they then sold that and moved to somewhere close to the > > > Kilkenny/Carlow border to run a guesthouse. I think he had two children. > > > > > > I hope this adds something you your knowledge. > > > J. J.