Interesting to see reports of the Rev John Gahan. Pardon my ignorance, but what is PP an abbreviation for? Protestant Priest or public prosecutor? What were they agitating about? There is a Gahan who was deported to Australia for sheep rustling in about 1815, together with several other villains. He was involved in building the road from Sydney to the Blue mountains, and made a reasonable amount of money. Also a Dorothy Gahan who married a James Oliver of Leighlinbridge, and allegedly died in 1845. Anyone know more about this family? Maybe the sheep rustlers were actually agitating, or just deperate? > From: irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 01:00:53 -0600 > > > > Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to the List. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Myshall Parish. and name Mahah (Turtle Bunbury) > 2. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > (Friend of Carlow) > 3. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. (Sue Clement) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:30:31 +0100 > From: Turtle Bunbury <turtlehistory@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Myshall Parish. and name Mahah > To: Carlow Rootsweb <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Cc: Michael Brennan <mb006r9209@blueyonder.co.uk>, Bob Topley > <btcollingwood@gmail.com> > Message-ID: <0547193A-5AF0-4B0B-B730-18C3A708D306@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Delighted to hear it Charlie, well done. > > Turtle Bunbury > www.turtlebunbury.com > > Check out Turtle's latest project here - www.facebook.com/Wistorical > > Old Fort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland > > > Mob: + 353 - (0) 87 - 6453 486 Skype: turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury > > On 28 Jun 2013, at 18:13, C Donohue wrote: > > > Just want to once again say a big thank you to Michael Brennan, > > Michael > > Purcell, Sue Clement, Turtle and all others who contribute so much > > valuable > > and interesting information to this site. After many years of > > searching and > > some help from Sue, I managed to find some RC church records for my > > Donohoe > > family Thomas and wife Hanora Mahan. I have since made contact with > > Donohoe family but would also like to make contact with the Mahan > > family if > > at all possible. The Donohoe's came to Canada c 1847 with three > > children, > > setting out with 4. All apparently lived in townland of Raheenleigh. > > > > Thanks again and hope not imposing here Michael but any info would > > be most > > welcome. > > Charlie > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:10:44 +0100 > From: Friend of Carlow <friendsofcarlowtempe@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CACXOvdQfEbS8VnannH8xqStCjDyfc-zBO3iC3v5T5BMYA4MPXQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in Seamus > > deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that Kilmyshall was > > in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at the Down Survey map > > in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co Wexford. Seamus deVal > > writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history since both are connected with > > the history of Bunclody. > > > > Tanya > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic parish > > there for at least 200 years. > > Sue C. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in Seamus > > deVal's Bun Cloidi book. > > > > Tanya > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. > > June 1835. > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed of > > those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major Cornwall, > > under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; taking Father > > Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched himself at the expense of > > his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall will lose Thirty Pounds annually. > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were lately > > ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the tenantry into > > the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes -- this is a loss to > > the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 12:50:58 -0400 > From: "Sue Clement" <sneirish@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004b01ce78d6$a8f8dfa0$faea9ee0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes, I believe they must have been in error. There was only Rev. Laurence > Cummins. > Thanks, > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Friend of Carlow > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:11 PM > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in > > Seamus deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that > > Kilmyshall was in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at > > the Down Survey map in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co > > Wexford. Seamus deVal writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history > > since both are connected with the history of Bunclody. > > > > Tanya > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic > > parish there for at least 200 years. > > Sue C. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in Seamus > > deVal's Bun Cloidi book. > > > > Tanya > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. > > June 1835. > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed of > > those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major > > Cornwall, under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; taking > > Father Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched himself at the > > expense of his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall will lose Thirty > Pounds annually. > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were > > lately ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the > > tenantry into the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes -- > > this is a loss to the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > ******************************************