Has the possibility of Mr. Boles being an undercover agent of some sort been considered? And therefore becoming " Special " Here in the United States some FBI Agents have a designation/rank as Special Agent. -----Original Message----- From: Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2010 9:08 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. Thanks Mick Then it is probably just John Boles of Cavan on assignment in Carlow. That's right, none of my Bowles/Boles would have still been in Carlow by 1919. Still this little note will go well with my Bowles in Cavan files. Just glad this Boles wasn't a Black & Tan. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 20 March 2010 09:35 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. June 1919 is too early to have been a R.I.C. B-Special Constable ( est. Sept. 1920) or a member of the Auxiliaries reinforcement group ( Sept. 1919) or a Black and Tan recruit (Jan. 1920), possibly volunteer but I don't think that Boles show up in Carlow records for the period ?.... On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> wrote: > This reference states that Constable John Boles was a 'special' constable > of > the RIC. > > I would welcome opinions whether that means he was a temporary member, > probably a local, who was signed up to serve with the RIC but possibly was > not a full time member of the RIC? I have looked for Boles in the RIC > before and the only John I could find was in a northern county. Still he > could have been assigned to Carlow. The word 'special' makes me think it > wouldn't be that full time constable though. > > Anyone's thoughts? > > Thanks for the interesting reference Mick. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell > Sent: 19 March 2010 14:56 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. > > Extract from report in Carlow Sentinel, June 31st 1919. > Dangerous Speech in Carlow. > Southern Police Court before Mr. Swifte, Magistrate, K.C. > Frank Gallagher, who was arrested in St. Stephen's Green in Dublin, was > charged under the Criminal Law, Ireland Act of 1887. > On May 25th last Mr Frank Gallagher delivered a speech to a crowd of > between > 300 and 400 people assembled at Myshall, Co. Carlow. > Constable John Boles, Myshall, County Carlow, a special constable of the > Royal Irish Constabulary, confirmed his dispositions in which he stated > that > in company with Constable Henry Skehin he attended a public meeting and Mr > Frank D. Gallagher, of Dublin (whom he identified) addressed the meeting. > In > the course of his speech he made and published seditious and inflammatory > observations. Amongst other things he incited his hearers in the following > words, or words to the like effect :- > " I wish to impress on you that you owe no allegiance to any alien > Government ---only to your own---the Irish Republic. England has no more > right to govern you than China. You belong to Dail Eireann, and whatever it > asks you to do you must do it from a Christian as well as a moral command. > If we have another rising be true to Eamon de Valera, Plunkett, Thomas > McDonagh, and Pearse. Do not let them and the work they did in 1916 be in > vain". > Mr Swifte asked Gallagher if he had any question to ask ?. > Mr Gallagher stood up and asked the magistrate whether he was appointed > under the Act passed under the Constitution of the Irish Republic ?. > Swifte took no notice of the question. Swifte then sentenced the accused to > three month's imprisonment , without hard labour, and ordered him to give > bail in £20 to be of good behaviour for 12 months or serve a further term > of > one month's imprisonment. > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. 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