I thought about that too but I don't think it's likely. Wouldn't publishing his status in the newspaper be like signing his death warrant? Especially in 1919. There were no Boles actually living in that area so his cover wouldn't be very good. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of renolan38@aol.com Sent: 21 March 2010 09:20 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. Has the possibility of Mr. Boles being an undercover agent of some sort been considered? And therefore becoming " Special " Here in the United States some FBI Agents have a designation/rank as Special Agent. -----Original Message----- From: Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2010 9:08 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. Thanks Mick Then it is probably just John Boles of Cavan on assignment in Carlow. That's right, none of my Bowles/Boles would have still been in Carlow by 1919. Still this little note will go well with my Bowles in Cavan files. Just glad this Boles wasn't a Black & Tan. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 20 March 2010 09:35 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. June 1919 is too early to have been a R.I.C. B-Special Constable ( est. Sept. 1920) or a member of the Auxiliaries reinforcement group ( Sept. 1919) or a Black and Tan recruit (Jan. 1920), possibly volunteer but I don't think that Boles show up in Carlow records for the period ?.... On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> wrote: > This reference states that Constable John Boles was a 'special' constable > of > the RIC. > > I would welcome opinions whether that means he was a temporary member, > probably a local, who was signed up to serve with the RIC but possibly was > not a full time member of the RIC? I have looked for Boles in the RIC > before and the only John I could find was in a northern county. Still he > could have been assigned to Carlow. The word 'special' makes me think it > wouldn't be that full time constable though. > > Anyone's thoughts? > > Thanks for the interesting reference Mick. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell > Sent: 19 March 2010 14:56 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. > > Extract from report in Carlow Sentinel, June 31st 1919. > Dangerous Speech in Carlow. > Southern Police Court before Mr. Swifte, Magistrate, K.C. > Frank Gallagher, who was arrested in St. Stephen's Green in Dublin, was > charged under the Criminal Law, Ireland Act of 1887. > On May 25th last Mr Frank Gallagher delivered a speech to a crowd of > between > 300 and 400 people assembled at Myshall, Co. Carlow. > Constable John Boles, Myshall, County Carlow, a special constable of the > Royal Irish Constabulary, confirmed his dispositions in which he stated > that > in company with Constable Henry Skehin he attended a public meeting and Mr > Frank D. Gallagher, of Dublin (whom he identified) addressed the meeting. > In > the course of his speech he made and published seditious and inflammatory > observations. Amongst other things he incited his hearers in the following > words, or words to the like effect :- > " I wish to impress on you that you owe no allegiance to any alien > Government ---only to your own---the Irish Republic. England has no more > right to govern you than China. You belong to Dail Eireann, and whatever it > asks you to do you must do it from a Christian as well as a moral command. > If we have another rising be true to Eamon de Valera, Plunkett, Thomas > McDonagh, and Pearse. 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