Morning Cara, I'm finding this topic so interesting and just to add my tuppence worth> I have my great grandmothers daughter Annie Lydia Linehan born England 1907 but her birth wasn't registered until several months later in Dublin, there's a possibility that she was in hospital and her birth had to be registered so that she could receive treatment. The family were travelling show people which could have been the reason the birth wasn't registered immediately. Also I have never discovered where my father Alan Francis Brennan was born , I've tried everywhere but there doesn't appear to be a birth registration. Dad was born 1925. I have discovered that he was Confirmed in Raphoe 1934, he wasn't baptized there but must have been baptized somewhere in order to be Confirmed. My father's family were also travelling show people. I'm told that Dad would have had some kind of registration birth or baptism in order for him to marry and join the Army but after 10 years of searching I still haven't found anything. Regards Jackie Colson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] General question about baptisms > My experience shows me that in Ireland the RC child was almost baptised from > the womb, either by someone within the home or the current priest, with > Church of Ireland it was a little different they seemed to have a waiting > time to baptise them, but early when mortality rate was higher, it appears > they also baptised as close to birth as possible. > > I have to say that I doubt that a child waited to baptised anywhere if there > was someone who was concerned the child may die they baptised that said > child immediately so if they waited in America to be baptised they must have > been born of good stock. ( which is good) > > > Cheers > Cara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Shipman" <leshipman1@att.net> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 4:12 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] General question about baptisms > > >>I would like to know if it was common in Carlow (around the late 1700's to >>early 1800's) for newborns to be baptised right after birth...or was it >>common to wait for a period of time? In America, it often happened that >>newborns had to await their baptism (sometimes for years) because of no >>church or official to do the baptismal. >> >> Thank you for any comments. >> Linda >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must >> subscribe to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2761 - Release Date: 03/21/10 > 07:33:00 > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Jackie <jackie005@talktalk.net> wrote: > Morning Cara, > > I'm finding this topic so interesting and just to add my tuppence worth> > > I have my great grandmothers daughter Annie Lydia Linehan born England 1907 > but her birth wasn't registered until several months later in Dublin, > there's a possibility that she was in hospital and her birth had to be > registered so that she could receive treatment. > The family were travelling show people which could have been the reason the > birth wasn't registered immediately. > > Also I have never discovered where my father Alan Francis Brennan was born > , I've tried everywhere but there doesn't appear to be a birth > registration. > Dad was born 1925. > I have discovered that he was Confirmed in Raphoe 1934, he wasn't baptized > there but must have been baptized somewhere in order to be Confirmed. > My father's family were also travelling show people. > > I'm told that Dad would have had some kind of registration birth or baptism > in order for him to marry and join the Army but after 10 years of searching > I still haven't found anything. > > > Regards Jackie Colson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:54 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] General question about baptisms > > > > My experience shows me that in Ireland the RC child was almost baptised > from > > the womb, either by someone within the home or the current priest, with > > Church of Ireland it was a little different they seemed to have a waiting > > time to baptise them, but early when mortality rate was higher, it > appears > > they also baptised as close to birth as possible. > > > > I have to say that I doubt that a child waited to baptised anywhere if > there > > was someone who was concerned the child may die they baptised that said > > child immediately so if they waited in America to be baptised they must > have > > been born of good stock. ( which is good) > > > > > > Cheers > > Cara > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Shipman" <leshipman1@att.net> > > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 4:12 AM > > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] General question about baptisms > > > > > >>I would like to know if it was common in Carlow (around the late 1700's > to > >>early 1800's) for newborns to be baptised right after birth...or was it > >>common to wait for a period of time? In America, it often happened that > >>newborns had to await their baptism (sometimes for years) because of no > >>church or official to do the baptismal. > >> > >> Thank you for any comments. > >> Linda > >> ======================================= > >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > >> subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > >> --------------------------------------- > >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2761 - Release Date: 03/21/10 > > 07:33:00 > > > > ======================================= > > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > > --------------------------------------- > > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
At school we were told that according to R.C. Church teaching, Baptism was the only Sacrament that could be performed by a lay person, and if that was done the child could not be baptised again. For instance when Pat Purcell was born in Killeshin in 1896, it was thought he was in danger of death so he was baptised by the "handy woman" ( midwife !). At a later date his baptism was entered in the Church Register and "conditionally" was entered in the comments section.... Pat was baptised within an hour of his birth , he lived for another 99 years. In the early Registers for Carlow Cathedral ( 1789 >) it appears that only those who paid for the baptism were recorded, usually with the comment "Paid one shilling, one penny" I intend to have a look at those Registers again soon and will share the content with the List. There is also evidence that in many cases the baptisms were entered not by the priest but by a clerk of even the priest's housekeeper...( a practice continued up to recent times ) we often came across scrapes of paper in registers with details of a baptism only to find that the baptism was never recorded in the Register. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Jackie <jackie005@talktalk.net> wrote: > Morning Cara, > > I'm finding this topic so interesting and just to add my tuppence worth> > > I have my great grandmothers daughter Annie Lydia Linehan born England 1907 > but her birth wasn't registered until several months later in Dublin, > there's a possibility that she was in hospital and her birth had to be > registered so that she could receive treatment. > The family were travelling show people which could have been the reason the > birth wasn't registered immediately. > > Also I have never discovered where my father Alan Francis Brennan was born > , I've tried everywhere but there doesn't appear to be a birth > registration. > Dad was born 1925. > I have discovered that he was Confirmed in Raphoe 1934, he wasn't baptized > there but must have been baptized somewhere in order to be Confirmed. > My father's family were also travelling show people. > > I'm told that Dad would have had some kind of registration birth or baptism > in order for him to marry and join the Army but after 10 years of searching > I still haven't found anything. > > > Regards Jackie Colson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:54 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] General question about baptisms > > > > My experience shows me that in Ireland the RC child was almost baptised > from > > the womb, either by someone within the home or the current priest, with > > Church of Ireland it was a little different they seemed to have a waiting > > time to baptise them, but early when mortality rate was higher, it > appears > > they also baptised as close to birth as possible. > > > > I have to say that I doubt that a child waited to baptised anywhere if > there > > was someone who was concerned the child may die they baptised that said > > child immediately so if they waited in America to be baptised they must > have > > been born of good stock. ( which is good) > > > > > > Cheers > > Cara > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Shipman" <leshipman1@att.net> > > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 4:12 AM > > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] General question about baptisms > > > > > >>I would like to know if it was common in Carlow (around the late 1700's > to > >>early 1800's) for newborns to be baptised right after birth...or was it > >>common to wait for a period of time? In America, it often happened that > >>newborns had to await their baptism (sometimes for years) because of no > >>church or official to do the baptismal. > >> > >> Thank you for any comments. > >> Linda > >> ======================================= > >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > >> subscribe to the List. 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