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    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Nolan - PIKES & PROTECTION explained - I hope!
    2. Hi Roger, Have you made a study of the 98 Rebellion in Carlow? I read your email with much interest. Were the leaders and men of the United Irishmen also issued with bayonets or swords? There was a bayonet belonging to a family ancestor in our Carlow family and inscribed by Read & Co. in Dublin - referred to as a Volunteers bayonet - just curious... He had been a yeoman officer before the rebellion but fought with the Volunteers. dot ----- "Roger Nowlan" <rnowlan@primus.ca> wrote: > Denny, > > Being Canadian, I am no expert on Irish history but, for those like > Denny > who may be wondering about "protection" and "pikes" here is my take on > the > historical context. > > In 1798, buoyed by the recent success of Independence movements in > America > (1776) and in France, there was also a Rebellion of sorts in Ireland, > > commonly referred to as the "Rebellion of 1798". County carlow was > particularly hard hit although most of the military action seems to > have > been concentrated in Co. Wexford (Battle of Vinegar Hill, etc.). The > French > even made a landing in northwestern Ireland. > > To make a long story short the Rebellion failed and most of the United > > Irishmen were only equipped with "pikes" (a lance of sort carried by > people > on foot). The bearing of arms in Ireland had been strictly controlled > in > Ireland and very few of the common folk had firearms, hence the > appearance > of "pikes" on the scene, usually made by local blacksmiths. > > In Carlow, on an appointed day, all the "United Irishmen" (members of > a > secret Irish society, Catholics AND Protestants) and their leaders, > many of > them former yoeman (a sort of military policeman), converged on Carlow > town > to take the town from the military (there was also attack on Borris if > my > memory serves me right). The attack was to be a surprise but somehow > the > military were alerted beforehand and, again, to make a long story > short, > many of the United Irishmen were killed or trapped in burning > buildings. > Those who survived were offered "protection" from prosecution if they > > provided information, if my understanding is correct, usually the > names of > other United Irishmen e.g. who their captain was. > > In the end, I believe that many of the survivors were granted an > amnesty. > > However, for the first few years following 1798, there seems to have > been > reprisals from both sides, a sort of settling of scores "outside the > law". > Those who took part in such actions (beatings, house burnings, etc.) > were > also called rebels. In my own family research I have identified I > believe > someone who died during this period. He is generally known to history > as > "Farmer Clowry" who was shot while working in his field. His > tombstone in > the Kellistown cemetery gives his year of death as 1800. His first > name was > Darby (Jeremiah) and his widow, Anne, applied for and received a > Government > pension around 1804 (source: Early Parliamentary papers of Ireland). > My > Canadian ancestor's mother was previously married to a James Clowry > who > lived in the same area as Farmer Clowry. > > I wanted to keep it short but there you have it. If anyone wants to > add > clarifications or make corrections jump in. > However, I think that most people want to turn the page on this sad > period > in Irish history. > > Bye for now, > > Roger Nowlan > > ****************** > http://nolanfamilies.org > ****************** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <guscarroll@comcast.net> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:54 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Nolan > > > > > > > > Interogative; I'm not sure what is being asked in the emails where > they > > are asking for "Protection". Are they trying to escape some charges > > > account of owning the pikes? I missed something some where and I'm > not > > sure of the context. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Denny Carroll > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:27:18 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada > Pacific > > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Nolan > > > > (my mistake > > , there were "Nolans" recorded. J.C.) > > here is James Nolan seeking a Protection recorded in Journal of > Dudley > > Hill, > > James gives very little information !. > > Seeking Protection: > > James Nolan, of Ballon, Labourer, had a pike. > > ======================================= > > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > > subscribe to the List. 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