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    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Nowlan Transcripts from JPMD
    2. Susie Warren
    3. Roger having read the following Message 2 I decided to check my 'Journal for the Memorials of the Dead' material just in case I transcribed them incorrectly. The transcriptions referred to in your email from the JPMD are correct on the website. If there is a mistake it may have been at the time of original transcription from the headstone to the JPMD transcripts and may need checking against the original headstone if it has survived. Best wishes Susie > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 19:58:11 +0100 > From: "Shorten Family" <shortenfamily@eircom.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Journal for the Memorials of the Dead - > NOWLANs in KELLISTOWN > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001cb1baa$d96dc0b0$8c494210$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Roger _ I have just noticed your message and I presume that you know that > the list which you give is a little different from Bill Dillon's report on > those headstones in Kellistown. As far as I know you have all the texts > that I have but just in case you missed out on anything I will clarify ! > In > No. 11 on his list which is your second one - Edward and James Nowlan; he > has the age as 39 years whereas the journal has it as 30. The text for > the > John Hanlon stone is as follows on his list "Here lieth the Remains of > John Hanlon of Laughe and his wife Alice Hanlon, alias Kehoe, the latter > Departed this life February 24th 1788 @ --- yrs, the former July 29th > 1780 > aged 70 years." Let me know if you want me to go there and check these > out > - or maybe you already have done so. I hope you are both well - have you > another visit to Carlow planned ? Ronnie > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger Nowlan > Sent: 02 July 2010 19:15 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Cc: Susie Warren > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Journal for the Memorials of the Dead - NOWLANs > in > KELLISTOWN > > Susie, > > I want to thank you for your transcriptions from the JPMD. In searching > through them I found what I believe could be a link to my Nowlan family > and > I wanted to share my finding with the others on the list. > > In the Kellistown cemetery transcriptions I found the following: > > ++++++++++++++++++++++ > 'The next five monuments are in the Nave of the old Priory':- > > _____ > "This stone Erected by EDWARD NOWLAN (- -) Memory of his Wife BRIDGET > NOWLAN > > who Departed this life 16th of April 1700 aged 52 years also two of their > children > Lord have mercy on their souls Amen." > _____ > I.H.S. > "This stone erected by EDWARD and JAMES NOWLAN of Shrule near Carlow in > memory of their Father and Mother also CATHERINE the Beloved and > Affectionate wife of JAMES NOWLAN who departed this life the First of > March > 1785 aged 30 years She was Sanctified with Every virtue and after a > tedious > > illness was called to receive her reward in a better world Amen." > ______ > "Here lieth the body of THOMAS HANLON who departed this life September the > 6th 1786 aged 24 years. > ______ > "Here lies the Remains of JOHN HANLON of Laughe and his Wife ALICE HANLON > alias KEHOE, the latter Departed this life February 24th 1789 aged 70 > years. > > May they rest in Peace Amen." > ______ > "This stone was Erected by Mrs. ANNE KINSELLA of Upper Church Street in > the > City of Dublin Baker to the memory of her Beloved Husband PATRICK > KINSELLA and their child who Departed this life the 27 of Novr 1820 aged > 36 > years." > JPMD, Vol V, 1901 - 1903 , CARLOW, Page 151. > > ___ > The details above have been transcribed from the Journals titled, "Journal > for the Memorials of the Dead" which can be found at County Carlow > Library, > > Tullow Street, Carlow, Co Carlow IRELAND. > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > The second transcription of particular interest as it could fit with what > I > know of my ancestor James Nowland and hence opens up a new avenue of > research. > > My ancestor James Nowland married Mary Clowry (alias Shortall) in 1793 in > Ballon. The witnesses were a James Brennan and a Maurice Dawson. Mary had > previously been married to a James Clowry in 1784 suggesting that James > might also have been married earlier. > > The James Nowlan Sr. mentioned on the tombstone above married someone > named > Catherine sometime before 1785 and had at least two sons James Jr. and > Edward. > > I don't know when the tombstone was erected but, if this James Sr. would > be > my ancestor, then James Jr. would have been from a first marriage for > James > and Edward from a second marriage namely to Mary Shortall who we know had > at > > least two sons, Peter (c1796) and Edward (c1798). > > If the James Sr. mentioned on the tombstone is my ancestor then the > tombstone would have been erected sometime in the early 1800s, recall that > the son Edward in my family was only born around 1798. > > FURTHER REMARKS > > I also note that the tombstone in Kellistown makes the link between > traditional Nolan territory (barony of Forth; Ballon area) and > traditionnal > > Brennan territory (area where counties Kilkenny, Carlow, Leix and Kildare > are at their closest, the Shrule townland being in this area). This > observation is particulary noteworthy for me as a James Brennan was a > witness to James Sr's marriage to Mary Shortall in Ballon in 1793. > > Well that's about it for now! > The James Sr. mentioned above may or may not be my ancestor but I thought > I > would share with you a new line of investigation in my own family > research. > > With best regards, > > Roger Nowlan > > http://nolanfamilies.org >

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