Kristian, Sounds like a lot of interesting information to me. Can't get over the fact that you traced back to 1700's. I'm pedalling as fast as I can and not getting back before 1800's.....especially in Tyrone, my father's side. Much better results on my mother's side in Carlow. Kristian, where are you living now? Is that a Dutch name? On Jun 8, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Kristian Märkus wrote: > Good evening all, > > With thanks to Mick Purcell I have managed to trace a line in my > family tree > to the late 1700's to two brothers; John Dear and Thomas Dear, the > latter > from which I descend and who married a Judith Dunne. I imagine the > brothers > were born c1775 or earlier. > > Information I have to date (Source: Carlow Heritage Society/Clayton- > Browne > Papers/Mick Purcell): > > There is a Judith Dunne listed at Raheenwood, Old Leighlin, in > Griffith's > Valuations 1852 as renting 'Houses, and Land' from Anne Vigors and > Sisters. > Land area listed as follows: A=2 R=1 r=29. Cost of land rent IR£1. > House > rent is 5 shillings making total, IR£1 and 5 shillings. This may be > the same > Judith Dunne who married Thomas. If so, he may have passed away by > this > point, if this was the home that he and his wife settled in. > > Extract from Browne-Clayton Papers: > 'Kallender of Prisoners in Custody Newton, Esquire, High Sheriff of > Carlow, > 6th day of October 1796. > Edward Byrne fined two marks and to give Security to be of the > Peace for > seven years. > John Rourke guilty of assault, fined one mark (13 shillings and 4 > pence) and > then discharged. > Thomas Deer found guilty of two assaults and to be imprisoned for a > fortnight, fined six pence.' > This also tells us Thomas was a blacksmith. > > Following the 1798 rebellion men in the area made the statements > such as the > following made by Thomas (records found in UK by, and held by, Mick > Purcell): > 'Thomas Deer of Bridewell Lane, Dealer, Sworn by his brother John > Deer of > Cockpit lane, had a pike and gave to Mr. Nowland the priest and > requires a > protection.' > > Thomas's son James raised his own family on Pollerton Road, but I > would like > to find out where his father Thomas and uncle James were born. I > have a > feeling it may be Killeshin. I may be wrong. I am at a dead end at > this > point and so far have been unable to find out who the parents of > Thomas and > John are. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction, offer some suggestions? > > -- > Regards, > > Kristian > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL- > CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message