Carlow Sentinel. 6th December 1834. The late Mrs Catherine Bunbury, of Bath, bequeathed £100 to the poor of Swords, near Dublin, and £25 to the poor of Rathvilly, Carlow. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Be Let. >From 25th March 1835, whole or two divisions, in townlands of Lisnevah and Tobinstown called Knocknegan, late in the occupation of Mr John Nolan, deceased. Whole 235 acres or thereabouts. Division lands 1 called House Quarters 120 acres upon which is a good slated dwelling house and offices. Division lands 2 Cards Hill Quarters 115 acres. Three miles from Tullow, seven from Carlow. Coach passes by the land daily, to and from Dublin. Proposals to Robert Eustace, Merrion Sq. Dublin. John Brophy who resides on the lands will shew the premises. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Turtle If you can scan me a copy of the original photo; I suspect it has been scanned from a book page hence the lines: (Above: Matilda J. Smith, & Lady Eleanor McGrath) I might be able to do something with it to clean it up for you. http://www.turtlebunbury.com/family/bunburyfamily_related/bunbury_family_related_kanesmith.html Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/

Hi Turtle If you can scan me a copy of the original photo; I suspect it has been scanned from a book page hence the lines: (Above: Matilda J. Smith, & Lady Eleanor McGrath) I might be able to do something with it to clean it up for you. http://www.turtlebunbury.com/family/bunburyfamily_related/bunbury_family_related_kanesmith.html Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/

Fighting words indeed, thanks Mick. Thomas C Bunbury was a different branch to ours but a colourful cousin, no doubts. I can say that our side of the family did our best to make amends! My father married a Miss Butler, my mother, and his best man was also a Butler. Turtle Bunbury

 Turtle will curate the 2nd annual History Festival of Ireland at Duckett's Grove, Co. Carlow, on 15-16 June 2013. For the History Festival programme, visit http://www.thehistoryfestivalofireland.com/ To book your tickets, click on http://www.visualcarlow.ie/events/category/the-history-festival-of-ireland-eigse-carlow-arts-festival-2013 or phone 059 9172400. www.turtlebunbury.com


 
 Oldfort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland

 Mob: + 353 (0) 87 6453 486 Office: +353 (0) 5991 80559 Skype: turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury On 10 Jun 2013, at 19:49, Michael Purcell wrote: > [ note added 2013 by Michael Purcell -- as far as family research goes this > Thomas Bunbury is unaccounted for...we are trying to track him down, in > 1835 he appears to have it in for the Butlers, here he challenges Thomas > C. Butler to a duel, ( this might be Thomas Crawford Butler, Attorney ) > later he lashes out at the Sub-Sheriff, Henry Butler and also attacks Sir > Thomas Butler in a speech. ] > Carlow Sentinel. > 1834. [ abbreviated report ] > Criminal Information. > On behalf of Mr Thomas C. Butler, Attorney, a gentleman living in this > town, Mr R. C. Walker applied for criminal information against Thomas > Bunbury, for provoking him to fight a duel. > In December 1832 Mr Butler was employed by a client to sue Mr Bunbury for > the recovery of £30 promissory note. > Mr Bunbury paid most of it, leaving a balance of £4 due, later he offered 3 > shillings to cover what was due. > Mr Crawford refused to take it. > On the 6th February 1833 Mr Butler was accosted in the street in Carlow by > Mr Bunbury, who held at the time an open letter in his hand, and complained > of the way he was being treated, he said in a loud voice, " Mr Butler you > are a liar and a blackguard, and for one pin I would break the nose off > your face" seeing a crowd gathering Mr Butler walked away, and then Thomas > Bunbury followed him saying " you are also a coward as well as a liar and > blackguard". > A conditional order was granted against Mr Bunbury. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

[ note added 2013 by Michael Purcell -- in 1834, in what was a very unusual move, the gentry of the county came out in force to support a Roman Catholic for appointment as a coroner for the county. The choice was between Mr Edward Gorman, Roman Catholic, of Bennekerry Lodge, Carlow and Mr Thomas Bunbury who was, I think, from the Russellstown branch of the Bunburys. In a stranger twist Tom Bunbury, a Protestant, was supported by the Roman Catholic clergy !. ] Carlow Sentinel 17th May 1834. Election of a Coroner for the County Carlow. At eleven o'clock on yesterday the Court-house was opened by the High Sheriff of this county, John Watson, Esquire, shortly after which the court was crowded to excess. Most of all the respectable gentry and landed proprietary of the county were in attendance. The writ of election being read by the Sub-Sheriff, Mr Henry Butler, Esquire. Mr John O'Brien of Lara, proposed Mr Thomas Bunbury as a fit and proper person to fill the situation of Coroner. Mr Paul Carter, in seconding the nomination, stated that it was truly a sign of the times to see the aristocracy of the county come forward upon such an occasion. It was said the priests had led the people by the nose ; but in this case it happened the Protestants were led by the aristocracy. They wanted to put in a Roman Catholic, but that was a mere ruse. It was mere party feeling evinced to upset Mr Bunbury ; but he trusted the constituency of the county would do their duty, despite of any tyranny which may be practised ; he hoped they would be firm and vote for "God and their country" ( laughter ). Here the orator resumed his seat without a cheer. Mr Thomas C. Butler handed in a protest against Mr Bunbury, on the ground of disqualification. Captain Henry Carey next rose and proposed Mr Edward Gorman, as a fit and proper person to be Coroner. His nomination was seconded by Henry Watters, Esquire, Justice of the Peace. The High Sheriff called for a show of hands, which was in favour of Mr Gorman and was received with loud cheers. Mr Simms, on behalf of Mr Bunbury called for a poll. Mr Bunbury spoke -- " I hope I will receive fair play on this day from the magistrates of this county, whom I now address". Mr Butler, Sub-Sheriff interrupted -- "The magistrates have nothing to do with the election, otherwise than as electors. The High-Sheriff, Mr Watson, presides in this court, and he will render justice to every individual" Mr Bunbury continued -- " Then, Mr. Sheriff, I ask for justice, and that the laws be duly executed. I may have given offence ; if I have , I cannot help it, I will always stand by the constitution ( loud laughter ). I am opposed by tyranny. I am no party man (laughter ). I was never seen heading mobs. I was never seen at an Orange Order Lodge, nor at Brunswick meetings, nor am I a Whitefoot as may be insinuated ( laughter ). I hope, not withstanding the exertions of a party against me I shall be successful. Sunday will be a day of rest, and I shall do my duty, and appear here on Monday. I will poll to the last man." Mr Edward Gorman then spoke -- " Mr High Sheriff and Gentlemen ; if I have the honour of being returned as Coroner I trust I shall do my duty conscientiously."

What a tremendous initiative, Mick. We at this list all know how welcoming Carlow is, but you can find hundreds of thousands more like us in the diaspora, just from Co Carlow, who don't yet know. There are so many things that Carlow does right but there can always be more, and they can make points of difference in comparison to other counties. One facility that could be set up would be to encourage feedback and suggestions from members of that diaspora who have visited or may be wishing to. I can think right now of a handful of suggestions that I would make. Probably like so many of us over the seas, I have links to Counties Carlow, Mayo, Laois, Armagh, Dublin and Wicklow, but I would happily make Carlow my base on a visit if you keep it the easiest and friendliest place to do so. As would others. I wish the meeting every success. Bill -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Purcell Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2013 3:44 AM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] June 13th, Information on Genealogy+Local History at Lord Bagenal, Leighlinbridge 7pm. My People, My Place, My Heritage free training course. 11 training sessions, 4 workshops and 2 field trips, covering topics such as genealogy, local history, built heritage, event planning. Experts will show how to use online and offline tools in the genealogy toolkit. Plus Turtle Bunbury will be on board to provide an interesting and lively insight into the history of Carlow. President Barack Obama's 8th cousin, Henry Healy, will be one of the speakers. Further information on www.carlowdevelopment.ie www.facebook.com/IrelandXOCarlow or email jdoyle@irelandxo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those of you living in Carlow area please try support our Jumble Sale this coming Saturday at the O'Brien Centre, Dublin Road, Carlow, starting at 12 noon until 4pm. This is the only fund-raising event held by Carlow Senior Citizens Association. If you would like to donate clothing or articles for inclusion in the sale please contact our Trustee , Mick Purcell at 087 643 0412 or 059 9137454, or email him at mickpurcell123@gmail.com he will arrange collection. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:37 AM, <annagolan@eircom.net> wrote: > if you have any senior citizens there from Graigue..............please > visit our facebook page...........Graiguecullen Carlow (Laois for those who > prefer it) and enjoy all the photographs on there............Anna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carlow Senior Citizens" <carlowsc@gmail.com> > To: "irl-carlow" <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, 6 June, 2013 8:28:24 PM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Thank you all. > > This is a Marvelous site, so much information, so little time !. > Thanks to the two Michaels and to all who continue to subscribe to this > website. > All of us at Carlow Senior Citizens Association Centre will have great fun > searching for information on Carlow's past. > >From all at the O'Brien Centre, Dublin Road, Carlow. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I sincerely hope he won Trevor! There's quite a bit about Colonel Kane Bunbury and James Smith at http://www.turtlebunbury.com/family/bunburyfamily_related/bunbury_family_related_kanesmith.html .... apologies for not directing you to exact passage but if you search the page you should find out more ... I have a portrait image of Smith also somewhere if that's of interest. Much looking forward to catching up this weekend. Best for now, Turtle On 9 Jun 2013, at 21:18, Trevor Clowry wrote: > Fantastic Mick! > > This is my third great grandfather Michael Clowry from Carlow town. > Looks like Michael was probably hard done by. I wonder if he ever did > appeal and if he won. > > Trevor > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Purcell > Sent: 06 June 2013 18:21 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1854,Clowry+Bunbury. > > The Carlow Sentinel. > January 28th 1854. > Carlow Petty Sessions. > Michael Clowry summoned Mr James Smith, steward to Colonel Bunbury of > Moyle, for the recovery of 14 shillings for work done by him in his > capacity of stonemason on the lands of Moyle. > Mr Mulhall appeared on behalf of Clowry. > Michael Clowry on being sworn stated that he built 26 perches of mason > work, at 1/6pence per perch, he was paid 25 shillings but there is > still > a > balance of 14 shillings due. > Clowry stated he was employed the entire summer at Moyle, he had a man > named Sheean working with him and had a man named Tallon to measure > the > work. > [ note added 2013, after much debate the case was dismissed but Clowry > was > allowed 2 shillings and 6 pence for his attendance at court. Mr > Mulhall > told the court he would appeal. ]. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3199/6396 - Release Date: > 06/09/13 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

[ note added 2013 by Michael Purcell -- as far as family research goes this Thomas Bunbury is unaccounted for...we are trying to track him down, in 1835 he appears to have it in for the Butlers, here he challenges Thomas C. Butler to a duel, ( this might be Thomas Crawford Butler, Attorney ) later he lashes out at the Sub-Sheriff, Henry Butler and also attacks Sir Thomas Butler in a speech. ] Carlow Sentinel. 1834. [ abbreviated report ] Criminal Information. On behalf of Mr Thomas C. Butler, Attorney, a gentleman living in this town, Mr R. C. Walker applied for criminal information against Thomas Bunbury, for provoking him to fight a duel. In December 1832 Mr Butler was employed by a client to sue Mr Bunbury for the recovery of £30 promissory note. Mr Bunbury paid most of it, leaving a balance of £4 due, later he offered 3 shillings to cover what was due. Mr Crawford refused to take it. On the 6th February 1833 Mr Butler was accosted in the street in Carlow by Mr Bunbury, who held at the time an open letter in his hand, and complained of the way he was being treated, he said in a loud voice, " Mr Butler you are a liar and a blackguard, and for one pin I would break the nose off your face" seeing a crowd gathering Mr Butler walked away, and then Thomas Bunbury followed him saying " you are also a coward as well as a liar and blackguard". A conditional order was granted against Mr Bunbury.

Sure wish I had known about this sooner. It sounds absolutely fabulous - well worth a trip to Ireland. Betty Clingman Louisiana, USA Researching: JOYCE and FARRELL in Co. Carlow -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Purcell Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 12:44 PM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] June 13th, Information on Genealogy+Local History at Lord Bagenal, Leighlinbridge 7pm. My People, My Place, My Heritage free training course. 11 training sessions, 4 workshops and 2 field trips, covering topics such as genealogy, local history, built heritage, event planning. Experts will show how to use online and offline tools in the genealogy toolkit. Plus Turtle Bunbury will be on board to provide an interesting and lively insight into the history of Carlow. President Barack Obama's 8th cousin, Henry Healy, will be one of the speakers. Further information on www.carlowdevelopment.ie www.facebook.com/IrelandXOCarlow or email jdoyle@irelandxo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My People, My Place, My Heritage free training course. 11 training sessions, 4 workshops and 2 field trips, covering topics such as genealogy, local history, built heritage, event planning. Experts will show how to use online and offline tools in the genealogy toolkit. Plus Turtle Bunbury will be on board to provide an interesting and lively insight into the history of Carlow. President Barack Obama's 8th cousin, Henry Healy, will be one of the speakers. Further information on www.carlowdevelopment.ie www.facebook.com/IrelandXOCarlow or email jdoyle@irelandxo.com

I doubt if he is your Thomas of Lisnavagh, he might be related, if he is related you should be able to track him. There is a Thomas C. Bunbury registered as living in Russellstown in the 1830s. He should be him ?. I would like to have attended the Sommerville-Large talk at the Borris House event , he is one of my favourite writers, but I could not make it. On 10 June 2013 17:53, Turtle Bunbury (History) <turtlehistory@gmail.com>wrote: > Hola Mick, > Does Thomas Bunbury provide an address also? I am unsure which Thomas he > is - I don't think he is the guy who was boss of Lisnavagh at that time > (who later became MP for Carlow) because (a) he lived in London and (b) I > don't believe he had a middle initial of C, but I may be wrong ... > Sorry for radio silence on other matters - it is indeed all very much > hotting up for this weekend's History Festival. I attended the Borris House > festival of Writing & Ideas on Saturday and it was a huge success. > All best for now, > Turtle > > > Turtle Bunbury > > Turtle will curate the 2nd annual History Festival of Ireland at Duckett's > Grove, Co. Carlow, on 15-16 June 2013. For the History Festival programme, > visit http://www.thehistoryfestivalofireland.com/ > To book your tickets, click on > http://www.visualcarlow.ie/events/category/the-history-festival-of-ireland-eigse-carlow-arts-festival-2013or phone 059 9172400. > > www.turtlebunbury.com > > Oldfort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland > Mob: + 353 (0) 87 6453 486 Office: +353 (0) 5991 80559 Skype: > turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury > > > > > > > On 10 Jun 2013, at 14:04, Michael Purcell wrote: > > > [ note added 2013 by Michael Purcell -- I am not sure what axe Thomas > > Bunbury is grinding by having this letter published but you can be sure > it > > has to do with the "Tithe War" that was taking place at this time plus he > > refers to "the Rev. T. Tyrell" ( sic ) who was Parish Priest of Tinryland > > at this time and who was a very active "political priest" and stirrer > upper. > > The "oath" was not published nor was anymore heard from Mr Bunbury on the > > topic. > > At the end of this letter I attach a piece on Father Thomas Tyrrell. ] > > > > Carlow Sentinel. > > 12th May 1832. > > To the Editor of The Carlow Sentinel. > > Mr Editor - - A meeting of the parishioners of the union of Grangeford, > and > > Killerig, took place on the 2nd May to form associations for the > protection > > of persons and property. > > The form of an oath was submitted for the inspection of the Rev. > T.Tyrell, > > and assented to, on Mr William Duckett's promise, that no person swearing > > should be employed to recover tithes. -- > > Now, if not subject by the oath, why was this promise asked ? > > What avails any man's promise ? > > A committee being named, I requested to see the oath, to me it appeared > > embracing too much. If the meeting was solely for the object " to form > > associations for the protection of persons and property" , why swear more > > than " that we will to the best of our power save and protect the persons > > and property of each of our parishioners ." > > If the oath contains more, but not intelligible to him who swears it, I > say > > I had cause to object. > > The objectionable parts were pointed out to Mr William Duckett, assented > > to, and included within parenthesis to be omitted. > > The committee having perfected the resolutions, my objections were spoken > > of in a very uncourteous manner ; I attempted a reply, but persons > > possessing more weight in body than mind, prevented me, by exclaiming ," > no > > ! no ! a loss of time &." > > Through your impartial journal I require a publication of the oath. > > By one gentleman it was argued that the preamble was the oath and not the > > oath itself. > > Another said, to amend was to destroy ; would to God his commission of > > justice for the peace was amended. He thinks he is a lawyer ; had I the > law > > not known to him , I would forego his knowledge. > > I am satisfied of this deficiency, by poor S --- n's imprisonment for > > seeing a hare. > > Again I think I am justified in requesting said oath to be published, and > > as yet, am no convert, Thomas C. Bunbury. > > [ added 2013 - > > > > *Rev Thomas Tyrrell, P. P. Tinryland* > > > > *“A Political Priest” by John Scott* > > > > “Fr. Thomas Tyrrell was a native of Ballyroan, Co. Laois. He was PP of > > Doonane from 1815 to 1823 when he was transferred to Tinryland where he > > remained until his death on 24 August 1842.Many of his parishioners at > this > > time were tenants of the landlords Bruen and Beresford and this probably > > began his interest in politics. At this time in Carlow the Borough of > > Carlow sent one representative to Parliament and the County sent two. The > > bill giving Catholic Emancipation was made law on 13 April 1829. A > separate > > bill was passed at the same time, which raised the county franchise from > > forty shillings to £ 10. This had the effect of reducing the number of > > people who could vote in the County constituency from about 4000 to 530. > > This was an attempt to limit the effect of the emancipation bill and it > > deprived many forty-shilling freeholders of the vote. The very people who > > had forced the question of emancipation were to be deprived of the fruits > > of it. This just added to the feelings of bitterness, which had built up > > over the previous decade.” > > > > “However a Reform Bill was passed in August 1832 and it increased the > > electorate in the County to about 1246. Also, the borough franchise was > > extended to £ I 0 householders, the same as in England. Special sessions > > for the registration of new voters were set up and the number of people > > entitled to vote in the next borough election would be considerably > greater > > than the thirteen who had the vote in the last one. In the 1832 election > > 278 people had the right to vote in the Borough. It must be remembered > that > > at this time voting was not secret and sometimes the local papers > published > > a list of the voters and how they cast their votes. The landlords > expected > > that their tenants would vote as directed by them.” > > > > “The previous elections in the County from the Act of Union in 1801 were > > just contests between various landlords. Now with the coming of Catholic > > Emancipation and the passing of the Reform Act the power of the landlords > > could be challenged. This was the situation into which Fr. Tyrrell threw > > his energies. In May 1830 he addressed a Poor Law meeting in Maryborough > > and he also proposed a motion at a Reform meeting in Carlow on 24th May, > > 1832. He seconded Wallace, the Liberal candidate, at the election in > > December 1832. Wallace and the other Liberal candidate, Walter Blackney > > were elected. The Conservatives tried to have the result overturned and a > > Parliamentary Committee investigated the election. Fr. Tyrrell travelled > > from Tinryland to London and gave evidence before this committee in May > > 1833.” > > > > Transcribed by Michael Purcell ]. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael, Many thanks for posting your entry mentioning that my GGF, Simeon Clarke, got his name in the papers once again. Any clues as to what transgressions The Carlow Post accused him of committing? Bryan Clarke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1832,Conran,Clarke,Anderson. > Carlow Sentinel. > April 1832. > GREAT TITHE MEETING. > At a numerous and respectable Meeting of the Inhabitants of Baltinglass , > on Sunday, the 15th of April. > Mr Matthew Conran in the Chair. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mr Simeon Clarke. [ November 1832 ] > We had an article prepared for press in reply to the foul and slanderous > attack made by the Carlow Post, on the above gentleman, a gentleman whose > character we need not add whether we regard his honour, his strict > integrity and moral worth is unimpeachable, but as that gentleman feels it > necessary to appeal to another tribunal, we do not deem it prudent to say > further on the subject. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Married [ March 1833 ]. > On Saturday morning last, by special license, George William Anderson, > Esquire, of this town, to Jane, daughter of the late Bazil Grey, Esqiure, > of the City of Kilkenny. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Mike, I checked Jim Shannon's email address, which is jimshannon@eircom.net . Maybe he's gone out to lunch! His postal address is "Scotland", Hacketstown. Cheers Kaye Cole

Hola Mick, Does Thomas Bunbury provide an address also? I am unsure which Thomas he is - I don't think he is the guy who was boss of Lisnavagh at that time (who later became MP for Carlow) because (a) he lived in London and (b) I don't believe he had a middle initial of C, but I may be wrong ... Sorry for radio silence on other matters - it is indeed all very much hotting up for this weekend's History Festival. I attended the Borris House festival of Writing & Ideas on Saturday and it was a huge success. All best for now, Turtle Turtle Bunbury

 Turtle will curate the 2nd annual History Festival of Ireland at Duckett's Grove, Co. Carlow, on 15-16 June 2013. For the History Festival programme, visit http://www.thehistoryfestivalofireland.com/ To book your tickets, click on http://www.visualcarlow.ie/events/category/the-history-festival-of-ireland-eigse-carlow-arts-festival-2013 or phone 059 9172400. www.turtlebunbury.com


 
 Oldfort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland

 Mob: + 353 (0) 87 6453 486 Office: +353 (0) 5991 80559 Skype: turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury On 10 Jun 2013, at 14:04, Michael Purcell wrote: > [ note added 2013 by Michael Purcell -- I am not sure what axe Thomas > Bunbury is grinding by having this letter published but you can be sure it > has to do with the "Tithe War" that was taking place at this time plus he > refers to "the Rev. T. Tyrell" ( sic ) who was Parish Priest of Tinryland > at this time and who was a very active "political priest" and stirrer upper. > The "oath" was not published nor was anymore heard from Mr Bunbury on the > topic. > At the end of this letter I attach a piece on Father Thomas Tyrrell. ] > > Carlow Sentinel. > 12th May 1832. > To the Editor of The Carlow Sentinel. > Mr Editor - - A meeting of the parishioners of the union of Grangeford, and > Killerig, took place on the 2nd May to form associations for the protection > of persons and property. > The form of an oath was submitted for the inspection of the Rev. T.Tyrell, > and assented to, on Mr William Duckett's promise, that no person swearing > should be employed to recover tithes. -- > Now, if not subject by the oath, why was this promise asked ? > What avails any man's promise ? > A committee being named, I requested to see the oath, to me it appeared > embracing too much. If the meeting was solely for the object " to form > associations for the protection of persons and property" , why swear more > than " that we will to the best of our power save and protect the persons > and property of each of our parishioners ." > If the oath contains more, but not intelligible to him who swears it, I say > I had cause to object. > The objectionable parts were pointed out to Mr William Duckett, assented > to, and included within parenthesis to be omitted. > The committee having perfected the resolutions, my objections were spoken > of in a very uncourteous manner ; I attempted a reply, but persons > possessing more weight in body than mind, prevented me, by exclaiming ," no > ! no ! a loss of time &." > Through your impartial journal I require a publication of the oath. > By one gentleman it was argued that the preamble was the oath and not the > oath itself. > Another said, to amend was to destroy ; would to God his commission of > justice for the peace was amended. He thinks he is a lawyer ; had I the law > not known to him , I would forego his knowledge. > I am satisfied of this deficiency, by poor S --- n's imprisonment for > seeing a hare. > Again I think I am justified in requesting said oath to be published, and > as yet, am no convert, Thomas C. Bunbury. > [ added 2013 - > > *Rev Thomas Tyrrell, P. P. Tinryland* > > *“A Political Priest” by John Scott* > > “Fr. Thomas Tyrrell was a native of Ballyroan, Co. Laois. He was PP of > Doonane from 1815 to 1823 when he was transferred to Tinryland where he > remained until his death on 24 August 1842.Many of his parishioners at this > time were tenants of the landlords Bruen and Beresford and this probably > began his interest in politics. At this time in Carlow the Borough of > Carlow sent one representative to Parliament and the County sent two. The > bill giving Catholic Emancipation was made law on 13 April 1829. A separate > bill was passed at the same time, which raised the county franchise from > forty shillings to £ 10. This had the effect of reducing the number of > people who could vote in the County constituency from about 4000 to 530. > This was an attempt to limit the effect of the emancipation bill and it > deprived many forty-shilling freeholders of the vote. The very people who > had forced the question of emancipation were to be deprived of the fruits > of it. This just added to the feelings of bitterness, which had built up > over the previous decade.” > > “However a Reform Bill was passed in August 1832 and it increased the > electorate in the County to about 1246. Also, the borough franchise was > extended to £ I 0 householders, the same as in England. Special sessions > for the registration of new voters were set up and the number of people > entitled to vote in the next borough election would be considerably greater > than the thirteen who had the vote in the last one. In the 1832 election > 278 people had the right to vote in the Borough. It must be remembered that > at this time voting was not secret and sometimes the local papers published > a list of the voters and how they cast their votes. The landlords expected > that their tenants would vote as directed by them.” > > “The previous elections in the County from the Act of Union in 1801 were > just contests between various landlords. Now with the coming of Catholic > Emancipation and the passing of the Reform Act the power of the landlords > could be challenged. This was the situation into which Fr. Tyrrell threw > his energies. In May 1830 he addressed a Poor Law meeting in Maryborough > and he also proposed a motion at a Reform meeting in Carlow on 24th May, > 1832. He seconded Wallace, the Liberal candidate, at the election in > December 1832. Wallace and the other Liberal candidate, Walter Blackney > were elected. The Conservatives tried to have the result overturned and a > Parliamentary Committee investigated the election. Fr. Tyrrell travelled > from Tinryland to London and gave evidence before this committee in May > 1833.” > > Transcribed by Michael Purcell ]. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Married at Clonmel by Rev. J.P. Rhoades, Rector of Clonmel, Robert McDowell, Governor of Carlow County Jail to Jane, eldest daughter of Benjamin Hodgins, Supervisor of Excise, Clonmel.

Carlow Sentinel. April 1832. GREAT TITHE MEETING. At a numerous and respectable Meeting of the Inhabitants of Baltinglass , on Sunday, the 15th of April. Mr Matthew Conran in the Chair. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mr Simeon Clarke. [ November 1832 ] We had an article prepared for press in reply to the foul and slanderous attack made by the Carlow Post, on the above gentleman, a gentleman whose character we need not add whether we regard his honour, his strict integrity and moral worth is unimpeachable, but as that gentleman feels it necessary to appeal to another tribunal, we do not deem it prudent to say further on the subject. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Married [ March 1833 ]. On Saturday morning last, by special license, George William Anderson, Esquire, of this town, to Jane, daughter of the late Bazil Grey, Esqiure, of the City of Kilkenny.

[ note added 2013 by Michael Purcell -- I am not sure what axe Thomas Bunbury is grinding by having this letter published but you can be sure it has to do with the "Tithe War" that was taking place at this time plus he refers to "the Rev. T. Tyrell" ( sic ) who was Parish Priest of Tinryland at this time and who was a very active "political priest" and stirrer upper. The "oath" was not published nor was anymore heard from Mr Bunbury on the topic. At the end of this letter I attach a piece on Father Thomas Tyrrell. ] Carlow Sentinel. 12th May 1832. To the Editor of The Carlow Sentinel. Mr Editor - - A meeting of the parishioners of the union of Grangeford, and Killerig, took place on the 2nd May to form associations for the protection of persons and property. The form of an oath was submitted for the inspection of the Rev. T.Tyrell, and assented to, on Mr William Duckett's promise, that no person swearing should be employed to recover tithes. -- Now, if not subject by the oath, why was this promise asked ? What avails any man's promise ? A committee being named, I requested to see the oath, to me it appeared embracing too much. If the meeting was solely for the object " to form associations for the protection of persons and property" , why swear more than " that we will to the best of our power save and protect the persons and property of each of our parishioners ." If the oath contains more, but not intelligible to him who swears it, I say I had cause to object. The objectionable parts were pointed out to Mr William Duckett, assented to, and included within parenthesis to be omitted. The committee having perfected the resolutions, my objections were spoken of in a very uncourteous manner ; I attempted a reply, but persons possessing more weight in body than mind, prevented me, by exclaiming ," no ! no ! a loss of time &." Through your impartial journal I require a publication of the oath. By one gentleman it was argued that the preamble was the oath and not the oath itself. Another said, to amend was to destroy ; would to God his commission of justice for the peace was amended. He thinks he is a lawyer ; had I the law not known to him , I would forego his knowledge. I am satisfied of this deficiency, by poor S --- n's imprisonment for seeing a hare. Again I think I am justified in requesting said oath to be published, and as yet, am no convert, Thomas C. Bunbury. [ added 2013 - *Rev Thomas Tyrrell, P. P. Tinryland* *“A Political Priest” by John Scott* “Fr. Thomas Tyrrell was a native of Ballyroan, Co. Laois. He was PP of Doonane from 1815 to 1823 when he was transferred to Tinryland where he remained until his death on 24 August 1842.Many of his parishioners at this time were tenants of the landlords Bruen and Beresford and this probably began his interest in politics. At this time in Carlow the Borough of Carlow sent one representative to Parliament and the County sent two. The bill giving Catholic Emancipation was made law on 13 April 1829. A separate bill was passed at the same time, which raised the county franchise from forty shillings to £ 10. This had the effect of reducing the number of people who could vote in the County constituency from about 4000 to 530. This was an attempt to limit the effect of the emancipation bill and it deprived many forty-shilling freeholders of the vote. The very people who had forced the question of emancipation were to be deprived of the fruits of it. This just added to the feelings of bitterness, which had built up over the previous decade.” “However a Reform Bill was passed in August 1832 and it increased the electorate in the County to about 1246. Also, the borough franchise was extended to £ I 0 householders, the same as in England. Special sessions for the registration of new voters were set up and the number of people entitled to vote in the next borough election would be considerably greater than the thirteen who had the vote in the last one. In the 1832 election 278 people had the right to vote in the Borough. It must be remembered that at this time voting was not secret and sometimes the local papers published a list of the voters and how they cast their votes. The landlords expected that their tenants would vote as directed by them.” “The previous elections in the County from the Act of Union in 1801 were just contests between various landlords. Now with the coming of Catholic Emancipation and the passing of the Reform Act the power of the landlords could be challenged. This was the situation into which Fr. Tyrrell threw his energies. In May 1830 he addressed a Poor Law meeting in Maryborough and he also proposed a motion at a Reform meeting in Carlow on 24th May, 1832. He seconded Wallace, the Liberal candidate, at the election in December 1832. Wallace and the other Liberal candidate, Walter Blackney were elected. The Conservatives tried to have the result overturned and a Parliamentary Committee investigated the election. Fr. Tyrrell travelled from Tinryland to London and gave evidence before this committee in May 1833.” Transcribed by Michael Purcell ].

What an unfortunate story. I would have thought they would have followed up with the whiskey producer - although perhaps it was home made. I don't know much about this Jeremiah but he is in the 1901 census here. http://url.ie/hkhn Trevor From: Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1901,Clowry,Cummins,Byrne,O'Neill. Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 17:35:53 +0100 Carlow Sentinel. May 1901. Sad death from Alcoholic poisoning. An Inquest on the body of James O'Neill, Killane, Carlow, aged 19 years. >From the evidence of John Cummins, it appears two men named Jeremiah Clowry and Michael Byrne accompanied deceased to Cummins's house where Michael Byrne produced a bottle of whiskey, containing about 5 naggins. The bottle was passed around, and the deceased boy took a good portion of it on two occasions and the last time the deceased emptied it, it then contained nearly two glasses. Then all sang songs and chatted for some time, when Clowry went home. James O'Neill sat on the chair, spread out his hands, fell to the ground and turned over as if he was going to sleep. after an hour they shook him but found him quite dead. Dr Fryer, Leighlinbridge stated deceased died from alcoholic poisoning, The jury agreed. ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3184/6362 - Release Date: 05/27/13

Fantastic Mick! This is my third great grandfather Michael Clowry from Carlow town. Looks like Michael was probably hard done by. I wonder if he ever did appeal and if he won. Trevor -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Purcell Sent: 06 June 2013 18:21 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1854,Clowry+Bunbury. The Carlow Sentinel. January 28th 1854. Carlow Petty Sessions. Michael Clowry summoned Mr James Smith, steward to Colonel Bunbury of Moyle, for the recovery of 14 shillings for work done by him in his capacity of stonemason on the lands of Moyle. Mr Mulhall appeared on behalf of Clowry. Michael Clowry on being sworn stated that he built 26 perches of mason work, at 1/6pence per perch, he was paid 25 shillings but there is still a balance of 14 shillings due. Clowry stated he was employed the entire summer at Moyle, he had a man named Sheean working with him and had a man named Tallon to measure the work. [ note added 2013, after much debate the case was dismissed but Clowry was allowed 2 shillings and 6 pence for his attendance at court. Mr Mulhall told the court he would appeal. ]. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3199/6396 - Release Date: 06/09/13