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    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Macdowell & Hodges
    2. Turtle Bunbury (History)
    3. Can anyone help Laura, below, with her quest? Begin forwarded message: > From: lcm.courtenay@btopenworld.com > Date: 23 July 2013 17:59:45 GMT+01:00 > To: "turtlehistory@gmail.com" <turtlehistory@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Macdowell - Cavan Ireland > Reply-To: lcm.courtenay@btopenworld.com > > From: "lcm.courtenay@btopenworld.com" <lcm.courtenay@btopenworld.com> > To: "turlehistory@gmail.com" <turlehistory@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 17:57 > Subject: Macdowell - Cavan Ireland > > Please can you help my researches into the Macdowell family? > I have traced the children and many of their families, descended from Robert Macdowell (Carlow 1808) and Jane Hodges. > > But, I have so far failed to identify Robert or Janes parents. I noted, from correspondence you have had with others, records of Macdowell's go back to the 1760's. > > My own Macdowell connection is from Ephraim Macdowell (1798-1835) to Benjamin George Macdowell (1821-1885) Dublin... > > Would be grateful for any additional information or leads you can offer, in particular about Robert's antecedents and whether Ephraim of Dublin and Robert of Dublin and Carlow were in any way related. > > With thanks, Laura Courtenay (Mrs) > >

    07/23/2013 12:05:16
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] General Thomas Cloney & 1798
    2. Turtle Bunbury (History)
    3. Many thanks Tom and Mary, yep, different Finns but I'll keep on a-hunting ... General Cloney sounds like a fine man from what I've read of him thus far. Turtle Bunbury

 www.turtlebunbury.com www.facebook.com/Wistorical www.amazon.com/Turtle-Bunbury/e/B001ITXQEY Listen to Turtle's Hidden Histories on Newstalk every Tuesday morning at 9:45am. Vanishing Ireland is on exhibition c/o the Irish Georgian Society HQ at the City Assembly House, South William Street, Dublin 2, 17 July - 30 Aug. The fourth volume will be published in October. Oldfort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland

 Mob: + 353 (0) 87 6453 486 Office: +353 (0) 5991 80559 Skype: turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury On 23 Jul 2013, at 13:36, Tom LaPorte wrote: > Hi Turtle > The book is online athttp://archive.org/stream/apersonalnarrat01thomgoog#page/n176/mode/2up/search/William > There are two Finn's in the Subscriber list, W. F., a barrister, and Lawrence, both Esquires and both living when the book was written so not likely your William. The book seems worth reading though. > Tom > >> From: turtlehistory@gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:01:24 +0100 >> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] General Thomas Cloney & 1798 >> >> Does anyone have a copy of General Thomas Clony's book ‘A personal narrative of those transactions in the county Wexford, in which the author was engaged, during 1798’? >> >> I am looking to check a reference indexed in the book to a man called Finn. I am hoping this might be William Finn of Drummin (Drummond) near St Mullins in County Carlow who I am presently researching. >> >> William Finn was one of twenty-one St. Mullins men whose names were enshrined upon a commemoration plaque installed inside the gateway of the village graveyard to mark the 150th anniversary of the Rebellion in 1948. All twenty-one men served with the United Irishmen during the Rebellion and they were all later buried at St. Mullins. The other twenty were General Thomas Cloney, John Byrne, George Dalton, John Scolardy, James Doyle, Patrick Foley, Henry Hammond, Patrick Kearney, John Lacey, Murty Lawlor, Patrick Logan, George Malone, Frank Moore, James Rourke, Sean Ruadh, Darach Doyle, Laurence O'Keefe, John Whelan, Maurice Kavanagh and Colonel Morgan Kavanagh. >> >> I wonder if these men acted as one unit and, if so, did they serve under General Cloney during the battles of Three Rocks (a victory for the rebels which gave them near total control of County Wexford), New Ross (a brutal loss for the rebels) and Foulksmills (another British victory)? >> >> Best wishes all, >> >> Turtle >> >> >> >> >> Turtle Bunbury > > >> www.turtlebunbury.com >> www.facebook.com/Wistorical >> www.amazon.com/Turtle-Bunbury/e/B001ITXQEY >> >> Listen to Turtle's Hidden Histories on Newstalk every Tuesday morning at 9:45am. >> >> Vanishing Ireland is on exhibition c/o the Irish Georgian Society HQ at the City Assembly House, South William Street, Dublin 2, 17 July - 30 Aug. The fourth volume will be published in October. >> >> Oldfort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland > > >> Mob: + 353 (0) 87 6453 486 Office: +353 (0) 5991 80559 Skype: turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/23/2013 09:42:38
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] General Thomas Cloney & 1798
    2. Turtle, if you go to http://www.archive.org/details/texts and type in A personal narrative of those transactions in the county Wexford you should be able to read it online or download or search in it. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Turtle Bunbury (History) Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:01 PM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] General Thomas Cloney & 1798 Does anyone have a copy of General Thomas Clony's book ‘A personal narrative of those transactions in the county Wexford, in which the author was engaged, during 1798’? I am looking to check a reference indexed in the book to a man called Finn. I am hoping this might be William Finn of Drummin (Drummond) near St Mullins in County Carlow who I am presently researching. William Finn was one of twenty-one St. Mullins men whose names were enshrined upon a commemoration plaque installed inside the gateway of the village graveyard to mark the 150th anniversary of the Rebellion in 1948. All twenty-one men served with the United Irishmen during the Rebellion and they were all later buried at St. Mullins. The other twenty were General Thomas Cloney, John Byrne, George Dalton, John Scolardy, James Doyle, Patrick Foley, Henry Hammond, Patrick Kearney, John Lacey, Murty Lawlor, Patrick Logan, George Malone, Frank Moore, James Rourke, Sean Ruadh, Darach Doyle, Laurence O'Keefe, John Whelan, Maurice Kavanagh and Colonel Morgan Kavanagh. I wonder if these men acted as one unit and, if so, did they serve under General Cloney during the battles of Three Rocks (a victory for the rebels which gave them near total control of County Wexford), New Ross (a brutal loss for the rebels) and Foulksmills (another British victory)? Best wishes all, Turtle Turtle Bunbury www.turtlebunbury.com www.facebook.com/Wistorical www.amazon.com/Turtle-Bunbury/e/B001ITXQEY Listen to Turtle's Hidden Histories on Newstalk every Tuesday morning at 9:45am. Vanishing Ireland is on exhibition c/o the Irish Georgian Society HQ at the City Assembly House, South William Street, Dublin 2, 17 July - 30 Aug. The fourth volume will be published in October. Oldfort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland Mob: + 353 (0) 87 6453 486 Office: +353 (0) 5991 80559 Skype: turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/23/2013 07:09:04
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] General Thomas Cloney & 1798
    2. Turtle Bunbury (History)
    3. Does anyone have a copy of General Thomas Clony's book ‘A personal narrative of those transactions in the county Wexford, in which the author was engaged, during 1798’? I am looking to check a reference indexed in the book to a man called Finn. I am hoping this might be William Finn of Drummin (Drummond) near St Mullins in County Carlow who I am presently researching. William Finn was one of twenty-one St. Mullins men whose names were enshrined upon a commemoration plaque installed inside the gateway of the village graveyard to mark the 150th anniversary of the Rebellion in 1948. All twenty-one men served with the United Irishmen during the Rebellion and they were all later buried at St. Mullins. The other twenty were General Thomas Cloney, John Byrne, George Dalton, John Scolardy, James Doyle, Patrick Foley, Henry Hammond, Patrick Kearney, John Lacey, Murty Lawlor, Patrick Logan, George Malone, Frank Moore, James Rourke, Sean Ruadh, Darach Doyle, Laurence O'Keefe, John Whelan, Maurice Kavanagh and Colonel Morgan Kavanagh. I wonder if these men acted as one unit and, if so, did they serve under General Cloney during the battles of Three Rocks (a victory for the rebels which gave them near total control of County Wexford), New Ross (a brutal loss for the rebels) and Foulksmills (another British victory)? Best wishes all, Turtle Turtle Bunbury

 www.turtlebunbury.com www.facebook.com/Wistorical www.amazon.com/Turtle-Bunbury/e/B001ITXQEY Listen to Turtle's Hidden Histories on Newstalk every Tuesday morning at 9:45am. Vanishing Ireland is on exhibition c/o the Irish Georgian Society HQ at the City Assembly House, South William Street, Dublin 2, 17 July - 30 Aug. The fourth volume will be published in October. Oldfort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland

 Mob: + 353 (0) 87 6453 486 Office: +353 (0) 5991 80559 Skype: turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury

    07/23/2013 07:01:24
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] General Thomas Cloney & 1798
    2. Tom LaPorte
    3. Hi Turtle The book is online athttp://archive.org/stream/apersonalnarrat01thomgoog#page/n176/mode/2up/search/William There are two Finn's in the Subscriber list, W. F., a barrister, and Lawrence, both Esquires and both living when the book was written so not likely your William. The book seems worth reading though. Tom > From: turtlehistory@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:01:24 +0100 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] General Thomas Cloney & 1798 > > Does anyone have a copy of General Thomas Clony's book ‘A personal narrative of those transactions in the county Wexford, in which the author was engaged, during 1798’? > > I am looking to check a reference indexed in the book to a man called Finn. I am hoping this might be William Finn of Drummin (Drummond) near St Mullins in County Carlow who I am presently researching. > > William Finn was one of twenty-one St. Mullins men whose names were enshrined upon a commemoration plaque installed inside the gateway of the village graveyard to mark the 150th anniversary of the Rebellion in 1948. All twenty-one men served with the United Irishmen during the Rebellion and they were all later buried at St. Mullins. The other twenty were General Thomas Cloney, John Byrne, George Dalton, John Scolardy, James Doyle, Patrick Foley, Henry Hammond, Patrick Kearney, John Lacey, Murty Lawlor, Patrick Logan, George Malone, Frank Moore, James Rourke, Sean Ruadh, Darach Doyle, Laurence O'Keefe, John Whelan, Maurice Kavanagh and Colonel Morgan Kavanagh. > > I wonder if these men acted as one unit and, if so, did they serve under General Cloney during the battles of Three Rocks (a victory for the rebels which gave them near total control of County Wexford), New Ross (a brutal loss for the rebels) and Foulksmills (another British victory)? > > Best wishes all, > > Turtle > > > > > Turtle Bunbury

 > www.turtlebunbury.com > www.facebook.com/Wistorical > www.amazon.com/Turtle-Bunbury/e/B001ITXQEY > > Listen to Turtle's Hidden Histories on Newstalk every Tuesday morning at 9:45am. > > Vanishing Ireland is on exhibition c/o the Irish Georgian Society HQ at the City Assembly House, South William Street, Dublin 2, 17 July - 30 Aug. The fourth volume will be published in October. > > Oldfort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland

 > Mob: + 353 (0) 87 6453 486 Office: +353 (0) 5991 80559 Skype: turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/23/2013 01:36:28
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Elvis.
    2. ron medulison
    3. Question for Mick Purcell. Am I right in thinking that the Carlow ancestors of Elvis Presley came to Ireland as soldiers in the Parliamentarian army under Oliver Cromwell in 1649 ?

    07/20/2013 05:47:23
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry convicts - 1819
    2. john clowry
    3. Mick, My wife and I are in Ireland at the moment visiting all the places our forebears came from. I am a descendant of Thomas Clowry who with his brother John was convicted of sheep stealing in 1819 at the Carlow Assizes . Do you have any information on the Carlow Assizes for 1819? John Clowry's wife Mary made a petition to Dublin Castle to be allowed to go to Australia to be with her husband. She was unsuccessful. Regards John and Julie Clowry

    07/15/2013 02:11:44
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Feltus/Feltis in co. Carlow
    2. Maggie Buchanan
    3. Hi Tom No worries, I'm just grateful for people like you who gather information and turn it into an invaluable resource for others. As you say, if others submit new information to you, then there is the best chance for new connections and discoveries to be made. Maggie -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom LaPorte Sent: 15 July 2013 05:28 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Feltus/Feltis in co. Carlow Hi Maggie I must seem so rude. I thought I replied to your email in March but somehow it just sat in my email without going. I just discovered it when looking for another message which didn't go out. I'm not sure what goes wrong with my email sometimes. So this is what I thought I sent you in March. Best of luck with your research. Tom unsent text: You're welcome Maggie. I just wish I had uncovered your Adams/Feltus connection. I've gathered all the Feltus references that I can find online but I'm still hoping there may be some more to find in registers at the Church of Ireland library or in a Will or land lease memorial. Possibly there are already some others known to other people out there who may now submit them to me. The whole idea of my site is to gather the known references together on one site as a resource for other researchers and hopefully to attract contributions from other like-minded researchers. You have a strong case for a Feltus marriage in your past but there is still the possibility that the name may just have been used to honor a prominent leader in their community. Adam Bloomfield Feltus would have been a powerful and influential figure in Carlow from 1800 to 1849, especially in the Bagenalstown/Dunleckney area and East over to the Myshall region. He was a county magistrate, held thousands of acres of land, had hundreds of tenants and commanded his own body of armed men to enforce the law. It was not unheard of to name a child after such a figure with the hope that it might benefit the family somewhere down the line. Still with the repeated use of the name Feltus in subsequent generations your chances are good that there was such a marriage. In my own line Joseph Bowles married Jane Feltus in Carlow in 1808 and didn't name any of their children Feltus but their son Joseph baptized his eldest son James Feltus Bowles in 1853. We'll both keep digging and your link may come up yet. Best regards Tom > From: m.buchanan@ramble-on.demon.co.uk > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:08:56 +0000 > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Feltus/Feltis in co. Carlow > > Thank you Tom. There's a FELTUS of Carlow somewhere in my ancestry > and I'm hoping one day to find the link. > > Around 1800 an ADAMS, possibly John, married (I believe) a female > FELTUS. I think she must have been a FELTUS because 'Feltus' occurs > as a middle name for several of their children, including Eliza (b. > 1805 in Carlow) and my ancestor Alexander (b. 1808 in Carlow) who > married Edith ANDERSON (or ANDERTON according to family records). One > of Alexander and Edith's children, born in Carlow, was Eliza Feltus > ADAMS (b. 1838). Her brother, my ancestor, was James ADAMS (b. 1839) > who used the second name Feltus in the > 1861 census although he wasn't baptised with that middle name. James > ADAMS named one of his sons Ernest Feltus ADAMS. So Feltus was a name > they were proud of from their past. But who was the FELTUS ancestor? > > Maggie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom LaPorte > Sent: 04 March 2013 14:14 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Feltus/Feltis in co. Carlow > > > Hello List members > I'm not sure who may be interested but, after about 5 years of mulling > it over, I've finally pulled together all my notes on the Feltus family in co. > Carlow and published them on my Bowles in Ireland web site. One of my > ancestors, Joseph Bowles married a Jane Feltus in Carlow in 1808 which > is what started my research into their family but gradually I just > became interested in the family. > The most interesting part of their family story historically may be > the involvement that Adam Bloomfield Feltus of Hollybrook, a Magistrate of co. > Carlow, played in the Incident at Newtown Barry, co. Wexford. In this > "incident" the local yeomanry fired on a crowd protesting the seizure > of two cattle and at least 22 people were killed. Adam Feltus had > been present with 16 of his own men from his Hollybrook estate and > with three Carlow policemen from Myshall to support the Wexford > magistrates. When the local coroner's report resulted in a charge of > murder against the Captain and several of the Yeomen they were tried > but found innocent as they were only doing their duty. The Irish > Government, facing a local backlash, issued letters critical of the > three Magistrates involved in the incident and gave instructions that > county magistrates should stay out of local seizures and the Captain > was removed from his command. Discussion in the British Parliament supported the magistrat! > es, was critical of the use of local yeomanry, many of whom were > Orangemen, to control a largely Catholic protest group which had > resulted in the armed yeomen carrying out personal grudges against > their Catholic neighbours and stated that the situation should have > been handled by the Army. Shortly afterwards when facing a similar > situation, a police force in Knocktopher was ordered to hold fire in > the face of threatening protesters until the situation intensified > until the crowd seized their rifles, someone started firing and 14 > policemen were killed. Blame was given to the restrictive orders which had been given out after the Incident at Newtown Barry. > I have summarized the events in the Incident at Newtown Barry and Adam B. > Feltus' role in it > at:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bowlesfamily/Inci > dentAt > NewtownBarry.htm > In support of my article, I've also summarized the testimonies at the > Coroner's inquest and at the trial as well as the discussion in the > House of Lords on other pages which are linked to the above page. > The Feltus Family Story itself is > at:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bowlesfamily/the_ > feltus > _family_of_carlow.htm > It's such a relief to have this done after about 5 or 6 years or > intermittent research on the family. You know how it gets when you get > sucked into a topic and just have to learn more until you finally just have > to finish it. I would welcome any corrections or creative suggestions for > changes or additions to the story from anyone interested in these > events or in this family. > Turtle would this be suitable to submit to Wistorical? > I hope this is of interest to someone besides myself! > Tom > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/15/2013 04:05:28
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Feltus/Feltis in co. Carlow
    2. Tom LaPorte
    3. Hi Maggie I must seem so rude. I thought I replied to your email in March but somehow it just sat in my email without going. I just discovered it when looking for another message which didn't go out. I'm not sure what goes wrong with my email sometimes. So this is what I thought I sent you in March. Best of luck with your research. Tom unsent text: You're welcome Maggie. I just wish I had uncovered your Adams/Feltus connection. I've gathered all the Feltus references that I can find online but I'm still hoping there may be some more to find in registers at the Church of Ireland library or in a Will or land lease memorial. Possibly there are already some others known to other people out there who may now submit them to me. The whole idea of my site is to gather the known references together on one site as a resource for other researchers and hopefully to attract contributions from other like-minded researchers. You have a strong case for a Feltus marriage in your past but there is still the possibility that the name may just have been used to honor a prominent leader in their community. Adam Bloomfield Feltus would have been a powerful and influential figure in Carlow from 1800 to 1849, especially in the Bagenalstown/Dunleckney area and East over to the Myshall region. He was a county magistrate, held thousands of acres of land, had hundreds of tenants and commanded his own body of armed men to enforce the law. It was not unheard of to name a child after such a figure with the hope that it might benefit the family somewhere down the line. Still with the repeated use of the name Feltus in subsequent generations your chances are good that there was such a marriage. In my own line Joseph Bowles married Jane Feltus in Carlow in 1808 and didn't name any of their children Feltus but their son Joseph baptized his eldest son James Feltus Bowles in 1853. We'll both keep digging and your link may come up yet. Best regards Tom > From: m.buchanan@ramble-on.demon.co.uk > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 12:08:56 +0000 > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Feltus/Feltis in co. Carlow > > Thank you Tom. There's a FELTUS of Carlow somewhere in my ancestry and I'm > hoping one day to find the link. > > Around 1800 an ADAMS, possibly John, married (I believe) a female FELTUS. I > think she must have been a FELTUS because 'Feltus' occurs as a middle name > for several of their children, including Eliza (b. 1805 in Carlow) and my > ancestor Alexander (b. 1808 in Carlow) who married Edith ANDERSON (or > ANDERTON according to family records). One of Alexander and Edith's > children, born in Carlow, was Eliza Feltus ADAMS (b. 1838). Her brother, my > ancestor, was James ADAMS (b. 1839) who used the second name Feltus in the > 1861 census although he wasn't baptised with that middle name. James ADAMS > named one of his sons Ernest Feltus ADAMS. So Feltus was a name they were > proud of from their past. But who was the FELTUS ancestor? > > Maggie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom LaPorte > Sent: 04 March 2013 14:14 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Feltus/Feltis in co. Carlow > > > Hello List members > I'm not sure who may be interested but, after about 5 years of mulling it > over, I've finally pulled together all my notes on the Feltus family in co. > Carlow and published them on my Bowles in Ireland web site. One of my > ancestors, Joseph Bowles married a Jane Feltus in Carlow in 1808 which is > what started my research into their family but gradually I just became > interested in the family. > The most interesting part of their family story historically may be the > involvement that Adam Bloomfield Feltus of Hollybrook, a Magistrate of co. > Carlow, played in the Incident at Newtown Barry, co. Wexford. In this > "incident" the local yeomanry fired on a crowd protesting the seizure of two > cattle and at least 22 people were killed. Adam Feltus had been present > with 16 of his own men from his Hollybrook estate and with three Carlow > policemen from Myshall to support the Wexford magistrates. When the local > coroner's report resulted in a charge of murder against the Captain and > several of the Yeomen they were tried but found innocent as they were only > doing their duty. The Irish Government, facing a local backlash, issued > letters critical of the three Magistrates involved in the incident and gave > instructions that county magistrates should stay out of local seizures and > the Captain was removed from his command. Discussion in the British > Parliament supported the magistrat! > es, was critical of the use of local yeomanry, many of whom were Orangemen, > to control a largely Catholic protest group which had resulted in the armed > yeomen carrying out personal grudges against their Catholic neighbours and > stated that the situation should have been handled by the Army. Shortly > afterwards when facing a similar situation, a police force in Knocktopher > was ordered to hold fire in the face of threatening protesters until the > situation intensified until the crowd seized their rifles, someone started > firing and 14 policemen were killed. Blame was given to the restrictive > orders which had been given out after the Incident at Newtown Barry. > I have summarized the events in the Incident at Newtown Barry and Adam B. > Feltus' role in it > at:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bowlesfamily/IncidentAt > NewtownBarry.htm > In support of my article, I've also summarized the testimonies at the > Coroner's inquest and at the trial as well as the discussion in the House of > Lords on other pages which are linked to the above page. > The Feltus Family Story itself is > at:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bowlesfamily/the_feltus > _family_of_carlow.htm > It's such a relief to have this done after about 5 or 6 years or > intermittent research on the family. You know how it gets when you get > sucked into a topic and just have to learn more until you finally just have > to finish it. I would welcome any corrections or creative suggestions for > changes or additions to the story from anyone interested in these events or > in this family. > Turtle would this be suitable to submit to Wistorical? > I hope this is of interest to someone besides myself! > Tom > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2013 05:28:19
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] NOLAN GATHERING set for SEPTEMBER 7-8 in Carlow
    2. Roger Nowlan
    3. Tis the Season of Family Gatherings! The Nolan Clan, for which I am the newsletter editor, will be holding its biannual gathering in Carlow on the weekend of September 7-8. For anyone interested below is a copy of the invitation sent out by Madeline (Nolan) Salter of Bagenalstown, our current modern-day clan chief. " The Chief of the Nolan Clan, Madeline Salter, would like to invite all Nolans, their families and friends from around the world to the Clan Gathering taking place in Carlow on 7 and 8 September. The Clan is celebrating its 17th Year and it is hoping to have as many people as possible return to meet their Irish relatives at our gathering on 7 and 8 September. A two day Programme of events has been organised including a special ceremony to inaugurate its new Chief, Mary Nolan of Waterford. On Saturday 7 September there will be a visit to Kilkenny Castle including lunch within the Castle, a visit to Castlecomer Discovery Park including a Coal Mining Museum and sporting activities. In the evening there will be a special Gala Dinner followed by a traditional Irish Ceili, so bring your dancing shoes !!! On Sunday 8 September there will be a visit to the Dunbrody Famine Ship in New Ross, Co. Wexford and ROS Tapestry Centre where stories of Ireland in times past are told in thread. There will be a talk on the origin of the name Nolan including its links to local townslands. A special rate for guests attending the Clan celebrations has been arranged with the Seven Oaks Hotel in Carlow. This hotel is within walking distance of the town centre, buses and trains. For further information on the Clan Gathering and events please do not hesitate to contact Madeline Salter, Chief of the Clan, telephone +353 0860839646 or Catherina O'Brien, telephone +353 0879723024. We look forward to meeting you all in September. " Here is a link to the Clan Informationhostedf at my website. http://www.nolanfamilies.org/index.php?topic=clan . There you find more information on clan activities, on past gatherings and the upcoming one. With best regards, Roger Nowlan http://nolanfamilies.org P.S. Madeline, Catherina, Mary, Please take note of the upcoming St. Mullins Parish Gathering (July 19-26) being organized by Bridie Lawlor. Information on this gathering is given in Bridie’s Email which follows. As far as I know Bridie works at the St Mullin’s genealogy centre in St. Mullins. Bye for now, Roger -----Original Message----- From: Bridie Lawlor Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 7:45 AM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] St. Mullins Parish Gathering *Contact: *Bridie Lawlor Tel:+353 *(0)87 6812839 E: * stmullinsgathering@gmail.com A week of events from the 19th - 26th July, St. Mullins Parish Gathering,* * *an experience not to be missed! OPEN TO EVERYONE**, please attend as many events as possible.* * * Fri 19. *Launch, **Welcome and Registration **in **Blanchfield’s Pub **at 8pm**, refreshments.** * Appointments made to locate original family homestead and burial plot for overseas visitors. Sat 20. *Walking tour of historic monastic site*, ancestral burial plots, Blessed Well, River Barrow navigation system, snap-net fishing, corn & woollen milling. *Annual Pattern customs explained. *Get to know the heritage on your doorstep. *Meet at Graveyard **at 3pm.* Sun 21. *Annual Pattern Sunday*, traditional meeting day for anyone with connections to St. Mullins. *Graignamanagh Brass Band Recital 2pm. *(Oldest Brass Band in Ireland, formed 1760).** * Attend a special Cemetery Mass (2.45pm) and feel the connection that goes back to Celtic monastic times.* Afterwards, enjoy the *hooley, music and dance* till late. *Be at ancestral burial place in the Graveyard at 2.30pm**.* * * Mon 22. *Graignamanagh Tour* given by Graignamanagh Historical Society.*See the legacy of the Cistercian monks and industrial heritage. **Meet at Duiske Abbey Graignamanagh at 2.15pm.* * * *Talk on Life in St. Mullins in the 1830’s *by* Frank Clarke*, (Local Historian). Life in a rural village pre-Famine and mass emigration. *Meet at Mullicháin Cafe at 7.45pm, refreshments.* * * Tues 23. *Display of hurling *at G.A.A. grounds, *try your skills at the world’s oldest and fastest field game*. Learn a few* words of Irish * (Gaelic). *Meet at Páirc Naomh Moling (GAA Grounds, Bahana, St. Mullins) at 6.30pm, refreshments.* * * Wed 24. *Visit Dunbrody Famine Ship, New Ross Tapestry Project *and *JFK Homestead (*€20 fee). *Meeting time & place to be arranged.* Thurs. 25.* **Feast of St. James, Little Pattern*. On this day, St. Moling promised *healing of mind and body *to all, ensuring* St. Mullins became a place of pilgrimage*. Visit family graves and Blessed Well. Join in a traditional *Rambling House session, music, song and story.*. *Meet at Graveyard at 6.45pm. Rambling House in Blanchfield’s Pub, 8pm, refreshments.* * * Fri 26. *Medieval Picnic *with roast pig on a spit and traditional Irish fare,* medieval fancy dress* (optional). *Display of Norman weapons and crafts*. *Vaeiety Concert *showcasing the best* *of *local talent.*Conclusion of Gathering with presentation of *Commemorative Scrolls. * *Meet outside Blanchfield’s Pub 6.30pm.* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2013 02:13:09
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 240
    2. John Shepperd
    3. Won't be able to make that, but I do hope it goes well, and hope you will repeat. John Shepperd > From: irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 240 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 01:00:45 -0600 > > > > Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to the List. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. St. Mullins Parish Gathering (Bridie Lawlor) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:45:21 +0100 > From: Bridie Lawlor <stmullinsgathering@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] St. Mullins Parish Gathering > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAPDRm-qf8kQB_wcYMYubLvjYBYAahqE4Xq5T0wOHzdtZZgmFvQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > *Contact: *Bridie Lawlor Tel:+353 *(0)87 6812839 E: * > stmullinsgathering@gmail.com > > A week of events from the 19th - 26th July, St. Mullins Parish Gathering,* * > *an experience not to be missed! OPEN TO EVERYONE**, please attend as many > events as possible.* > > * * > > Fri 19. *Launch, **Welcome and Registration **in **Blanchfield?s Pub **at > 8pm**, refreshments.** * > > Appointments made to locate original family homestead and burial plot for > overseas visitors. > > > > Sat 20. *Walking tour of historic monastic site*, ancestral burial plots, > Blessed Well, River Barrow navigation system, snap-net fishing, corn & > woollen milling. *Annual Pattern customs explained. *Get to know the > heritage on your doorstep. *Meet at Graveyard **at 3pm.* > > > > Sun 21. *Annual Pattern Sunday*, traditional meeting day for anyone with > connections to St. Mullins. *Graignamanagh Brass Band Recital 2pm. *(Oldest > Brass Band in Ireland, formed 1760).** > > * Attend a special Cemetery Mass (2.45pm) and feel the connection that goes > back to Celtic monastic times.* Afterwards, enjoy the *hooley, music and > dance* till late. > > *Be at ancestral burial place in the Graveyard at 2.30pm**.* > > * * > > Mon 22. *Graignamanagh Tour* given by Graignamanagh Historical > Society.*See the legacy of the Cistercian monks and industrial > heritage. > **Meet at Duiske Abbey Graignamanagh at 2.15pm.* > > * * > > *Talk on Life in St. Mullins in the 1830?s *by* Frank Clarke*, (Local > Historian). Life in a rural village pre-Famine and mass emigration. *Meet > at Mullich?in Cafe at 7.45pm, refreshments.* > > * * > > Tues 23. *Display of hurling *at G.A.A. grounds, *try your skills at the > world?s oldest and fastest field game*. Learn a few* words of Irish * > (Gaelic). > > *Meet at P?irc Naomh Moling (GAA Grounds, Bahana, St. Mullins) at 6.30pm, > refreshments.* > > * * > > Wed 24. *Visit Dunbrody Famine Ship, New Ross Tapestry Project *and *JFK > Homestead (*?20 fee). *Meeting time & place to be arranged.* > > > Thurs. 25.* **Feast of St. James, Little Pattern*. On this day, St. Moling > promised *healing of mind and body *to all, ensuring* St. Mullins became a > place of pilgrimage*. Visit family graves and Blessed Well. Join in a > traditional *Rambling House session, music, song and story.*. > > *Meet at Graveyard at 6.45pm. Rambling House in Blanchfield?s Pub, 8pm, > refreshments.* > > * * > > Fri 26. *Medieval Picnic *with roast pig on a spit and traditional Irish > fare,* medieval fancy dress* (optional). *Display of Norman weapons and > crafts*. *Vaeiety Concert *showcasing the best* *of *local > talent.*Conclusion of Gathering with > presentation of *Commemorative Scrolls. * > > *Meet outside Blanchfield?s Pub 6.30pm.* > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 240 > ******************************************

    07/13/2013 04:19:20
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] St. Mullins Parish Gathering
    2. Bridie Lawlor
    3. *Contact: *Bridie Lawlor Tel:+353 *(0)87 6812839 E: * stmullinsgathering@gmail.com A week of events from the 19th - 26th July, St. Mullins Parish Gathering,* * *an experience not to be missed! OPEN TO EVERYONE**, please attend as many events as possible.* * * Fri 19. *Launch, **Welcome and Registration **in **Blanchfield’s Pub **at 8pm**, refreshments.** * Appointments made to locate original family homestead and burial plot for overseas visitors. Sat 20. *Walking tour of historic monastic site*, ancestral burial plots, Blessed Well, River Barrow navigation system, snap-net fishing, corn & woollen milling. *Annual Pattern customs explained. *Get to know the heritage on your doorstep. *Meet at Graveyard **at 3pm.* Sun 21. *Annual Pattern Sunday*, traditional meeting day for anyone with connections to St. Mullins. *Graignamanagh Brass Band Recital 2pm. *(Oldest Brass Band in Ireland, formed 1760).** * Attend a special Cemetery Mass (2.45pm) and feel the connection that goes back to Celtic monastic times.* Afterwards, enjoy the *hooley, music and dance* till late. *Be at ancestral burial place in the Graveyard at 2.30pm**.* * * Mon 22. *Graignamanagh Tour* given by Graignamanagh Historical Society.*See the legacy of the Cistercian monks and industrial heritage. **Meet at Duiske Abbey Graignamanagh at 2.15pm.* * * *Talk on Life in St. Mullins in the 1830’s *by* Frank Clarke*, (Local Historian). Life in a rural village pre-Famine and mass emigration. *Meet at Mullicháin Cafe at 7.45pm, refreshments.* * * Tues 23. *Display of hurling *at G.A.A. grounds, *try your skills at the world’s oldest and fastest field game*. Learn a few* words of Irish * (Gaelic). *Meet at Páirc Naomh Moling (GAA Grounds, Bahana, St. Mullins) at 6.30pm, refreshments.* * * Wed 24. *Visit Dunbrody Famine Ship, New Ross Tapestry Project *and *JFK Homestead (*€20 fee). *Meeting time & place to be arranged.* Thurs. 25.* **Feast of St. James, Little Pattern*. On this day, St. Moling promised *healing of mind and body *to all, ensuring* St. Mullins became a place of pilgrimage*. Visit family graves and Blessed Well. Join in a traditional *Rambling House session, music, song and story.*. *Meet at Graveyard at 6.45pm. Rambling House in Blanchfield’s Pub, 8pm, refreshments.* * * Fri 26. *Medieval Picnic *with roast pig on a spit and traditional Irish fare,* medieval fancy dress* (optional). *Display of Norman weapons and crafts*. *Vaeiety Concert *showcasing the best* *of *local talent.*Conclusion of Gathering with presentation of *Commemorative Scrolls. * *Meet outside Blanchfield’s Pub 6.30pm.*

    07/12/2013 06:45:21
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Gahan
    2. Michael Brennan
    3. I too have a Gahan family in my family tree and they originally came from Carrigeen, Baltinglass, Co Wicklow. His wife came from Kildare and his daughter married a man from Killeshin Laois and they are now living in Co Laois Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://goo.gl/67Vce My Laois Page: http://goo.gl/Bn5KE From: "Sue Clement" <sneirish@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] GAHAN There was an abundance of Gahan and variant spellings of Geehan and Gehin around the Ballon parish area. My ggg-grandmother's brother Michael Green married Ally Geehan/Gahan in 1823 in Catholic parish of Ballon. The residence was given as Castlemore (about 1 mile west of Tullow) and witnesses were Joseph Eustace & Patrick Geehan. The Ballon parish records have Bridget Gehin, Catherine Gehin, Mary Gehin and James Gehin as adult witnesses in the records in the 1780s and 1790s. There is also a child Hugh Gehin, of James Gehin and Catherine, baptized in 1794. If you are interested in any of these folks, let me know and I can send you the details of the records. ~Sue C.

    07/07/2013 08:45:46
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] GAHAN
    2. Judith Acaster
    3. Father GAHAN is the PP (Parish Priest) at Clonmore in Co. Carlow - or was when I was there a few years ago! Judy..........Perth W.Australia Sent from my iPad On 06/07/2013, at 8:00 AM, irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to the List. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 (Pat Zipf) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 18:33:25 -0400 > From: "Pat Zipf" <patzipf@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <5348BE0A41D2460FB68EBD36A4EEDCD1@PKZDell> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Dear John and the List..... > > I just happened to come upon a reference to the surname GAHAN today on the > PEI Island Register for this week. I had just seen this reference to Rev > John Gahan....and was surprised to see the unusual name twice in one day. > So I'm sending along the information found on the PEI website just in case > it might be useful to someone on our list. > > Found in a Prince Edward Island newspaper...... > > Daily Examiner Thurs., 15 Feb., 1900, p 2 - DIED At Lot 11 on the 31st ult., > Philip Gahan, aged 103 years and 4 months, The deceased was a native of > Malpeque, but spent the greater part of his long life at Lot 11, and was > highly esteemed by all who knew him. In the early days of the Island's > history, when the traveling was done by foot or boat, and later by driving, > Mr. Gahan's home was often filled with travellers whom he delighted to > entertain., and from whom he would never accept any recompense. His remains > were interred in St. Bridget's Cemetery, Lot 11. > > > Hope it will help someone.... > All the very best, > Pat Zipf > Jamesburg NJ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Shepperd" <johnshepperd@hotmail.com> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:33 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > > >> Interesting to see reports of the Rev John Gahan. Pardon my ignorance, but >> what is PP an abbreviation for? Protestant Priest or public prosecutor? >> What were they agitating about? >> >> >> >> There is a Gahan who was deported to Australia for sheep rustling in about >> 1815, together with several other villains. He was involved in building >> the road from Sydney to the Blue mountains, and made a reasonable amount >> of money. Also a Dorothy Gahan who married a James Oliver of >> Leighlinbridge, and allegedly died in 1845. Anyone know more about this >> family? Maybe the sheep rustlers were actually agitating, or just >> deperate? >> >> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to >>> the List. >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Myshall Parish. and name Mahah (Turtle Bunbury) >>> 2. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >>> (Friend of Carlow) >>> 3. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. (Sue Clement) >>> >>> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 237 > ******************************************

    07/06/2013 11:48:24
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 237
    2. John Shepperd
    3. Dear Pat, Wow! 103 years of age was pretty sporting in 1900. I wonder whether Philip's longevity is down to the oysters of his early life? Born in September 1796, but whether in Ireland or Canada? His parents must surely have been of Irish Stock. There is a contemporary brewery and pub on PEI which is called Gahan House . Most of the Irish Gahans seem centred around Carlow and Kilkenny. John > From: irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 237 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 01:00:37 -0600 > > > > Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to the List. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 (Pat Zipf) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 18:33:25 -0400 > From: "Pat Zipf" <patzipf@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <5348BE0A41D2460FB68EBD36A4EEDCD1@PKZDell> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Dear John and the List..... > > I just happened to come upon a reference to the surname GAHAN today on the > PEI Island Register for this week. I had just seen this reference to Rev > John Gahan....and was surprised to see the unusual name twice in one day. > So I'm sending along the information found on the PEI website just in case > it might be useful to someone on our list. > > Found in a Prince Edward Island newspaper...... > > Daily Examiner Thurs., 15 Feb., 1900, p 2 - DIED At Lot 11 on the 31st ult., > Philip Gahan, aged 103 years and 4 months, The deceased was a native of > Malpeque, but spent the greater part of his long life at Lot 11, and was > highly esteemed by all who knew him. In the early days of the Island's > history, when the traveling was done by foot or boat, and later by driving, > Mr. Gahan's home was often filled with travellers whom he delighted to > entertain., and from whom he would never accept any recompense. His remains > were interred in St. Bridget's Cemetery, Lot 11. > > > Hope it will help someone.... > All the very best, > Pat Zipf > Jamesburg NJ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Shepperd" <johnshepperd@hotmail.com> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:33 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > > > > Interesting to see reports of the Rev John Gahan. Pardon my ignorance, but > > what is PP an abbreviation for? Protestant Priest or public prosecutor? > > What were they agitating about? > > > > > > > > There is a Gahan who was deported to Australia for sheep rustling in about > > 1815, together with several other villains. He was involved in building > > the road from Sydney to the Blue mountains, and made a reasonable amount > > of money. Also a Dorothy Gahan who married a James Oliver of > > Leighlinbridge, and allegedly died in 1845. Anyone know more about this > > family? Maybe the sheep rustlers were actually agitating, or just > > deperate? > > > > > >>>> > >> > >> > >> Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to > >> the List. > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Re: Myshall Parish. and name Mahah (Turtle Bunbury) > >> 2. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > >> (Friend of Carlow) > >> 3. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. (Sue Clement) > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 237 > ******************************************

    07/06/2013 03:46:59
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] GAHAN
    2. Sue Clement
    3. There was an abundance of Gahan and variant spellings of Geehan and Gehin around the Ballon parish area. My ggg-grandmother's brother Michael Green married Ally Geehan/Gahan in 1823 in Catholic parish of Ballon. The residence was given as Castlemore (about 1 mile west of Tullow) and witnesses were Joseph Eustace & Patrick Geehan. The Ballon parish records have Bridget Gehin, Catherine Gehin, Mary Gehin and James Gehin as adult witnesses in the records in the 1780s and 1790s. There is also a child Hugh Gehin, of James Gehin and Catherine, baptized in 1794. If you are interested in any of these folks, let me know and I can send you the details of the records. ~Sue C. -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Shepperd Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:34 AM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 Interesting to see reports of the Rev John Gahan. Pardon my ignorance, but what is PP an abbreviation for? Protestant Priest or public prosecutor? What were they agitating about? There is a Gahan who was deported to Australia for sheep rustling in about 1815, together with several other villains. He was involved in building the road from Sydney to the Blue mountains, and made a reasonable amount of money. Also a Dorothy Gahan who married a James Oliver of Leighlinbridge, and allegedly died in 1845. Anyone know more about this family? Maybe the sheep rustlers were actually agitating, or just deperate? > From: irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 01:00:53 -0600 > > > > Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to the List. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Myshall Parish. and name Mahah (Turtle Bunbury) 2. Re: > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > (Friend of Carlow) > 3. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. (Sue Clement) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:30:31 +0100 > From: Turtle Bunbury <turtlehistory@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Myshall Parish. and name Mahah > To: Carlow Rootsweb <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Cc: Michael Brennan <mb006r9209@blueyonder.co.uk>, Bob Topley > <btcollingwood@gmail.com> > Message-ID: <0547193A-5AF0-4B0B-B730-18C3A708D306@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Delighted to hear it Charlie, well done. > > Turtle Bunbury > www.turtlebunbury.com > > Check out Turtle's latest project here - www.facebook.com/Wistorical > > Old Fort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland > > > Mob: + 353 - (0) 87 - 6453 486 Skype: turtle1847 > www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury > > On 28 Jun 2013, at 18:13, C Donohue wrote: > > > Just want to once again say a big thank you to Michael Brennan, > > Michael Purcell, Sue Clement, Turtle and all others who contribute > > so much valuable and interesting information to this site. After > > many years of searching and some help from Sue, I managed to find > > some RC church records for my Donohoe family Thomas and wife Hanora > > Mahan. I have since made contact with Donohoe family but would also > > like to make contact with the Mahan family if at all possible. The > > Donohoe's came to Canada c 1847 with three children, setting out > > with 4. All apparently lived in townland of Raheenleigh. > > > > Thanks again and hope not imposing here Michael but any info would > > be most welcome. > > Charlie > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:10:44 +0100 > From: Friend of Carlow <friendsofcarlowtempe@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CACXOvdQfEbS8VnannH8xqStCjDyfc-zBO3iC3v5T5BMYA4MPXQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in > > Seamus deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that > > Kilmyshall was in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at > > the Down Survey map in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co > > Wexford. Seamus deVal writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history > > since both are connected with the history of Bunclody. > > > > Tanya > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic > > parish there for at least 200 years. > > Sue C. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in > > Seamus deVal's Bun Cloidi book. > > > > Tanya > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. > > June 1835. > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed > > of those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major > > Cornwall, under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; > > taking Father Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched > > himself at the expense of his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall will lose Thirty Pounds annually. > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were > > lately ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the > > tenantry into the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes > > -- this is a loss to the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 12:50:58 -0400 > From: "Sue Clement" <sneirish@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004b01ce78d6$a8f8dfa0$faea9ee0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes, I believe they must have been in error. There was only Rev. > Laurence Cummins. > Thanks, > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Friend of Carlow > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:11 PM > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in > > Seamus deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that > > Kilmyshall was in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at > > the Down Survey map in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co > > Wexford. Seamus deVal writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history > > since both are connected with the history of Bunclody. > > > > Tanya > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic > > parish there for at least 200 years. > > Sue C. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in > > Seamus deVal's Bun Cloidi book. > > > > Tanya > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. > > June 1835. > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed > > of those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major > > Cornwall, under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; > > taking Father Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched > > himself at the expense of his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall > > will lose Thirty > Pounds annually. > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were > > lately ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the > > tenantry into the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes > > -- this is a loss to the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > ****************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/06/2013 02:37:41
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235
    2. Pat Zipf
    3. Dear John and the List..... I just happened to come upon a reference to the surname GAHAN today on the PEI Island Register for this week. I had just seen this reference to Rev John Gahan....and was surprised to see the unusual name twice in one day. So I'm sending along the information found on the PEI website just in case it might be useful to someone on our list. Found in a Prince Edward Island newspaper...... Daily Examiner Thurs., 15 Feb., 1900, p 2 - DIED At Lot 11 on the 31st ult., Philip Gahan, aged 103 years and 4 months, The deceased was a native of Malpeque, but spent the greater part of his long life at Lot 11, and was highly esteemed by all who knew him. In the early days of the Island's history, when the traveling was done by foot or boat, and later by driving, Mr. Gahan's home was often filled with travellers whom he delighted to entertain., and from whom he would never accept any recompense. His remains were interred in St. Bridget's Cemetery, Lot 11. Hope it will help someone.... All the very best, Pat Zipf Jamesburg NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Shepperd" <johnshepperd@hotmail.com> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > Interesting to see reports of the Rev John Gahan. Pardon my ignorance, but > what is PP an abbreviation for? Protestant Priest or public prosecutor? > What were they agitating about? > > > > There is a Gahan who was deported to Australia for sheep rustling in about > 1815, together with several other villains. He was involved in building > the road from Sydney to the Blue mountains, and made a reasonable amount > of money. Also a Dorothy Gahan who married a James Oliver of > Leighlinbridge, and allegedly died in 1845. Anyone know more about this > family? Maybe the sheep rustlers were actually agitating, or just > deperate? > > >>>> >> >> >> Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to >> the List. >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Myshall Parish. and name Mahah (Turtle Bunbury) >> 2. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >> (Friend of Carlow) >> 3. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. (Sue Clement) >> >>

    07/05/2013 12:33:25
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. John, they were agitating to have Roman Catholics nominated as eligible to vote depending on their property valuations. On 5 July 2013 09:35, Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> wrote: > Parish Priest > > > On 5 July 2013 09:33, John Shepperd <johnshepperd@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Interesting to see reports of the Rev John Gahan. Pardon my ignorance, >> but what is PP an abbreviation for? Protestant Priest or public prosecutor? >> What were they agitating about? >> >> >> >> There is a Gahan who was deported to Australia for sheep rustling in >> about 1815, together with several other villains. He was involved in >> building the road from Sydney to the Blue mountains, and made a reasonable >> amount of money. Also a Dorothy Gahan who married a James Oliver of >> Leighlinbridge, and allegedly died in 1845. Anyone know more about this >> family? Maybe the sheep rustlers were actually agitating, or just deperate? >> >> >> > From: irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 >> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 01:00:53 -0600 >> > >> > >> > >> > Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe >> to the List. >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Re: Myshall Parish. and name Mahah (Turtle Bunbury) >> > 2. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >> > (Friend of Carlow) >> > 3. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. (Sue Clement) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:30:31 +0100 >> > From: Turtle Bunbury <turtlehistory@gmail.com> >> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Myshall Parish. and name Mahah >> > To: Carlow Rootsweb <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> >> > Cc: Michael Brennan <mb006r9209@blueyonder.co.uk>, Bob Topley >> > <btcollingwood@gmail.com> >> > Message-ID: <0547193A-5AF0-4B0B-B730-18C3A708D306@gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> > >> > Delighted to hear it Charlie, well done. >> > >> > Turtle Bunbury >> > www.turtlebunbury.com >> > >> > Check out Turtle's latest project here - www.facebook.com/Wistorical >> > >> > Old Fort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland >> > >> > >> > Mob: + 353 - (0) 87 - 6453 486 Skype: turtle1847 >> www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury >> > >> > On 28 Jun 2013, at 18:13, C Donohue wrote: >> > >> > > Just want to once again say a big thank you to Michael Brennan, >> > > Michael >> > > Purcell, Sue Clement, Turtle and all others who contribute so much >> > > valuable >> > > and interesting information to this site. After many years of >> > > searching and >> > > some help from Sue, I managed to find some RC church records for my >> > > Donohoe >> > > family Thomas and wife Hanora Mahan. I have since made contact with >> > > Donohoe family but would also like to make contact with the Mahan >> > > family if >> > > at all possible. The Donohoe's came to Canada c 1847 with three >> > > children, >> > > setting out with 4. All apparently lived in townland of Raheenleigh. >> > > >> > > Thanks again and hope not imposing here Michael but any info would >> > > be most >> > > welcome. >> > > Charlie >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com >> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> > > the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:10:44 +0100 >> > From: Friend of Carlow <friendsofcarlowtempe@gmail.com> >> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] >> > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> > Message-ID: >> > <CACXOvdQfEbS8VnannH8xqStCjDyfc-zBO3iC3v5T5BMYA4MPXQ@mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> > >> > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." >> > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. >> > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in >> Seamus >> > > deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that Kilmyshall >> was >> > > in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at the Down Survey >> map >> > > in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co Wexford. Seamus deVal >> > > writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history since both are connected >> with >> > > the history of Bunclody. >> > > >> > > Tanya >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] >> > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM >> > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] >> 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >> > > >> > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic >> parish >> > > there for at least 200 years. >> > > Sue C. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >> > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya >> > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM >> > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] >> 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >> > > >> > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from >> > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I >> > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in Seamus >> > > deVal's Bun Cloidi book. >> > > >> > > Tanya >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> >> > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. >> > > June 1835. >> > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. >> > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed of >> > > those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major >> Cornwall, >> > > under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; taking Father >> > > Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched himself at the >> expense of >> > > his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall will lose Thirty Pounds >> annually. >> > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. >> > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were >> lately >> > > ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the tenantry >> into >> > > the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes -- this is a >> loss to >> > > the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 3 >> > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 12:50:58 -0400 >> > From: "Sue Clement" <sneirish@comcast.net> >> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] >> > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <004b01ce78d6$a8f8dfa0$faea9ee0$@net> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > >> > Yes, I believe they must have been in error. There was only Rev. >> Laurence >> > Cummins. >> > Thanks, >> > Sue >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com >> > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Friend of Carlow >> > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:11 PM >> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] >> 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >> > >> > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." >> > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. >> > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in >> > > Seamus deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that >> > > Kilmyshall was in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at >> > > the Down Survey map in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co >> > > Wexford. Seamus deVal writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history >> > > since both are connected with the history of Bunclody. >> > > >> > > Tanya >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] >> > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM >> > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] >> 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >> > > >> > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic >> > > parish there for at least 200 years. >> > > Sue C. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: >> > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya >> > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM >> > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] >> 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. >> > > >> > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from >> > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I >> > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in Seamus >> > > deVal's Bun Cloidi book. >> > > >> > > Tanya >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> >> > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. >> > > June 1835. >> > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. >> > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed of >> > > those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major >> > > Cornwall, under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; taking >> > > Father Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched himself at the >> > > expense of his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall will lose Thirty >> > Pounds annually. >> > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. >> > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were >> > > lately ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the >> > > tenantry into the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes -- >> > > this is a loss to the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to >> > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. >> > >> > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. >> > >> > __________________________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com >> > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> > email with no additional text. >> > >> > >> > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 >> > ****************************************** >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

    07/05/2013 04:50:52
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. Parish Priest On 5 July 2013 09:33, John Shepperd <johnshepperd@hotmail.com> wrote: > Interesting to see reports of the Rev John Gahan. Pardon my ignorance, but > what is PP an abbreviation for? Protestant Priest or public prosecutor? > What were they agitating about? > > > > There is a Gahan who was deported to Australia for sheep rustling in about > 1815, together with several other villains. He was involved in building the > road from Sydney to the Blue mountains, and made a reasonable amount of > money. Also a Dorothy Gahan who married a James Oliver of Leighlinbridge, > and allegedly died in 1845. Anyone know more about this family? Maybe the > sheep rustlers were actually agitating, or just deperate? > > > > From: irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com > > Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 01:00:53 -0600 > > > > > > > > Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to > the List. > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Myshall Parish. and name Mahah (Turtle Bunbury) > > 2. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > (Friend of Carlow) > > 3. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. (Sue Clement) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:30:31 +0100 > > From: Turtle Bunbury <turtlehistory@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Myshall Parish. and name Mahah > > To: Carlow Rootsweb <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > > Cc: Michael Brennan <mb006r9209@blueyonder.co.uk>, Bob Topley > > <btcollingwood@gmail.com> > > Message-ID: <0547193A-5AF0-4B0B-B730-18C3A708D306@gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > > Delighted to hear it Charlie, well done. > > > > Turtle Bunbury > > www.turtlebunbury.com > > > > Check out Turtle's latest project here - www.facebook.com/Wistorical > > > > Old Fort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland > > > > > > Mob: + 353 - (0) 87 - 6453 486 Skype: turtle1847 > www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury > > > > On 28 Jun 2013, at 18:13, C Donohue wrote: > > > > > Just want to once again say a big thank you to Michael Brennan, > > > Michael > > > Purcell, Sue Clement, Turtle and all others who contribute so much > > > valuable > > > and interesting information to this site. After many years of > > > searching and > > > some help from Sue, I managed to find some RC church records for my > > > Donohoe > > > family Thomas and wife Hanora Mahan. I have since made contact with > > > Donohoe family but would also like to make contact with the Mahan > > > family if > > > at all possible. The Donohoe's came to Canada c 1847 with three > > > children, > > > setting out with 4. All apparently lived in townland of Raheenleigh. > > > > > > Thanks again and hope not imposing here Michael but any info would > > > be most > > > welcome. > > > Charlie > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:10:44 +0100 > > From: Friend of Carlow <friendsofcarlowtempe@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > > <CACXOvdQfEbS8VnannH8xqStCjDyfc-zBO3iC3v5T5BMYA4MPXQ@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." > > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. > > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in > Seamus > > > deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that Kilmyshall > was > > > in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at the Down Survey > map > > > in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co Wexford. Seamus deVal > > > writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history since both are connected > with > > > the history of Bunclody. > > > > > > Tanya > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] > > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM > > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic parish > > > there for at least 200 years. > > > Sue C. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya > > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM > > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from > > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I > > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in Seamus > > > deVal's Bun Cloidi book. > > > > > > Tanya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. > > > June 1835. > > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. > > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed of > > > those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major > Cornwall, > > > under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; taking Father > > > Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched himself at the > expense of > > > his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall will lose Thirty Pounds > annually. > > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. > > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were lately > > > ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the tenantry > into > > > the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes -- this is a loss > to > > > the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 12:50:58 -0400 > > From: "Sue Clement" <sneirish@comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <004b01ce78d6$a8f8dfa0$faea9ee0$@net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Yes, I believe they must have been in error. There was only Rev. Laurence > > Cummins. > > Thanks, > > Sue > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Friend of Carlow > > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:11 PM > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." > > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. > > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in > > > Seamus deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that > > > Kilmyshall was in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at > > > the Down Survey map in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co > > > Wexford. Seamus deVal writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history > > > since both are connected with the history of Bunclody. > > > > > > Tanya > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] > > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM > > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic > > > parish there for at least 200 years. > > > Sue C. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya > > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM > > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from > > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I > > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in Seamus > > > deVal's Bun Cloidi book. > > > > > > Tanya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. > > > June 1835. > > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. > > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed of > > > those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major > > > Cornwall, under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; taking > > > Father Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched himself at the > > > expense of his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall will lose Thirty > > Pounds annually. > > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. > > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were > > > lately ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the > > > tenantry into the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes -- > > > this is a loss to the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > > ****************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/05/2013 03:35:46
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235
    2. John Shepperd
    3. Interesting to see reports of the Rev John Gahan. Pardon my ignorance, but what is PP an abbreviation for? Protestant Priest or public prosecutor? What were they agitating about? There is a Gahan who was deported to Australia for sheep rustling in about 1815, together with several other villains. He was involved in building the road from Sydney to the Blue mountains, and made a reasonable amount of money. Also a Dorothy Gahan who married a James Oliver of Leighlinbridge, and allegedly died in 1845. Anyone know more about this family? Maybe the sheep rustlers were actually agitating, or just deperate? > From: irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 01:00:53 -0600 > > > > Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to the List. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Myshall Parish. and name Mahah (Turtle Bunbury) > 2. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > (Friend of Carlow) > 3. Re: 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. (Sue Clement) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:30:31 +0100 > From: Turtle Bunbury <turtlehistory@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Myshall Parish. and name Mahah > To: Carlow Rootsweb <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Cc: Michael Brennan <mb006r9209@blueyonder.co.uk>, Bob Topley > <btcollingwood@gmail.com> > Message-ID: <0547193A-5AF0-4B0B-B730-18C3A708D306@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Delighted to hear it Charlie, well done. > > Turtle Bunbury > www.turtlebunbury.com > > Check out Turtle's latest project here - www.facebook.com/Wistorical > > Old Fort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland > > > Mob: + 353 - (0) 87 - 6453 486 Skype: turtle1847 www.facebook.com/turtle.bunbury > > On 28 Jun 2013, at 18:13, C Donohue wrote: > > > Just want to once again say a big thank you to Michael Brennan, > > Michael > > Purcell, Sue Clement, Turtle and all others who contribute so much > > valuable > > and interesting information to this site. After many years of > > searching and > > some help from Sue, I managed to find some RC church records for my > > Donohoe > > family Thomas and wife Hanora Mahan. I have since made contact with > > Donohoe family but would also like to make contact with the Mahan > > family if > > at all possible. The Donohoe's came to Canada c 1847 with three > > children, > > setting out with 4. All apparently lived in townland of Raheenleigh. > > > > Thanks again and hope not imposing here Michael but any info would > > be most > > welcome. > > Charlie > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:10:44 +0100 > From: Friend of Carlow <friendsofcarlowtempe@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CACXOvdQfEbS8VnannH8xqStCjDyfc-zBO3iC3v5T5BMYA4MPXQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in Seamus > > deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that Kilmyshall was > > in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at the Down Survey map > > in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co Wexford. Seamus deVal > > writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history since both are connected with > > the history of Bunclody. > > > > Tanya > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic parish > > there for at least 200 years. > > Sue C. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in Seamus > > deVal's Bun Cloidi book. > > > > Tanya > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. > > June 1835. > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed of > > those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major Cornwall, > > under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; taking Father > > Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched himself at the expense of > > his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall will lose Thirty Pounds annually. > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were lately > > ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the tenantry into > > the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes -- this is a loss to > > the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 12:50:58 -0400 > From: "Sue Clement" <sneirish@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] > 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004b01ce78d6$a8f8dfa0$faea9ee0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes, I believe they must have been in error. There was only Rev. Laurence > Cummins. > Thanks, > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Friend of Carlow > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 12:11 PM > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > Re. "Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator." > Sue, the Carlow Sentinel newspaper reported the priest's name as Rev. J. > Cummins, they might have been mistaken. > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Tanya Whitaker <tmmw025@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Found my error. Kilmyshal/Kilmeashall is the place referred to in > > Seamus deVal's book, Bun Cloidi and I thought he had written that > > Kilmyshall was in Ceatherlach at one time. However, when looking at > > the Down Survey map in 1890, it is located in Scarawalsh area of Co > > Wexford. Seamus deVal writes of Ceatherlach and Co Wexford history > > since both are connected with the history of Bunclody. > > > > Tanya > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue Clement [mailto:sneirish@comcast.net] > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:18 AM > > To: 'Tanya'; irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > No there has always been a Myshall in Co. Carlow, and a Catholic > > parish there for at least 200 years. > > Sue C. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tanya > > Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:35 AM > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1835,Clowry,Cummins,Cornwall.Gahan,Prendergast. > > > > Isn't Myshall parish in co Wexford? It is down the road a bit from > > Bunclody. Maybe back in 1835 it was in Co Carlow. That border area I > > noticed was part of Ceatherlach on Down Survey 1670 map and in Seamus > > deVal's Bun Cloidi book. > > > > Tanya > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tabletMichael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > > wrote:Carlow Sentinel. > > June 1835. > > Myshall Parish -- The Rev. J. Cummins, P.P. and Agitator. > > Townland of Ullardbeg -- Several families were lately dispossessed of > > those lands, including a noted agitator named Clowry, by Major > > Cornwall, under circumstances already detailed to our readers ; taking > > Father Prendergast's average dues -- a man who enriched himself at the > > expense of his flock, his brother Priest of Myshall will lose Thirty > Pounds annually. > > Rathvilly Parish -- The Rev. John Gahan, P.P. and Agitator. > > Haroldstown -- A Townland out of which Twenty nine families were > > lately ejected, for non-payment of rent due for years, paid by the > > tenantry into the pockets of agitators for electioneering purposes -- > > this is a loss to the Reverend demagogue of Fifty Pounds annually. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 235 > ******************************************

    07/05/2013 02:33:51