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    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Bagenalstown House
    2. Michael Brennan
    3. There are two Gentry houses which were mentioned in CARLOW GENTRY by Jimmy O'Toole 1993., but no details about the specific houses and who the families were. One of those was Ballinabranna House. The second house was Bagenalstown House: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/Bagenalstown­_House.htm I cant find any information on Bagenalstown House anywhere so I am hoping that someone can help me find out who built the house and when? The only info I have been able to find is that a Mr. John Newton lived there at one time but I have no date for this event. Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

    02/06/2010 02:15:58
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Bagenalstown House
    2. frances heidel
    3. How are Dunleckny Parish and Clonmore and Bagenalstown related?

    02/06/2010 02:02:27
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] small and early in 1891 Carlow
    2. michael purcell
    3. Carlow after Dark 1891. ("Carlow After Dark" is the title of a book I hope to publish soon, mick) >From the Thorpe scrapbook in the PPP. The "small and early" given by Mrs Bagenal and Mrs J.O. Adair at Bennekerry on Friday developed into a large and late . Over a hundred guests responded and I hear of six o'clock as an hour at which not a few reached their virtuous couches . Bennekerry, which is particularly well suited to festivities of the kind, was prettily illuminated, house and gardens, with Japanese lanterns. Mrs Bagenal wore a white silk dress, and Mrs Adair appeared a pale blue silk. Amongst the many were Mr. and Mrs. Walter Kavanagh (she looking particularly well in blue and gold brocade); Mrs Browne-Clayton, who brought not only a bevy of girls, but a bundle of young men; Lady Butler, with her sons and daughters; Mrs Bruen, with three daughters and two sons; Colonel and Mrs. Fortescue Tynte and Miss Rochfort, Colonel and Mrs. Howard-Brooke, Captain Hall and Mr Hooper. The last three (sic) gentlemen came over from Wicklow, where they are under canvas. Mrs. J. Westropp Dawson wore a beautiful white satin, deified with pale green. Much disappointment was felt at the non-appearance of the bride, Mrs Pack-Beresford, who is suffering from a chill. Mrs Hall-Dare, looking less like a grandmother than ever, danced the Kitchen-Lancers with her son-in-law, being well supported by her daughter, in white.

    02/06/2010 04:15:56
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] in defence of the Carlow Gentry / Landlords
    2. michael purcell
    3. well said Michael, I recall an old man saying some years ago , "we got rid of one lot and the lot that replaced them are worse" !. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Michael Brennan <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk>wrote: > Surely nothing has changed; even today we read in the newspapers of people > been evicted from their homes, have their businesses taken away from them > after working hard to build it up. People have their property removed from > their homes every day because they fall behind on payments. People of all > ages have their Gas and Electric turned off because they cant afford to pay > their bills. > > I could go on but as I said 'nothings changed' even in this day and age! > > Michael - excellent work from you and your crew. > > Regards > > Michael Brennan > > Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/05/2010 02:45:01
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] in defence of the Carlow Gentry / Landlords
    2. Michael Brennan
    3. Surely nothing has changed; even today we read in the newspapers of people been evicted from their homes, have their businesses taken away from them after working hard to build it up. People have their property removed from their homes every day because they fall behind on payments. People of all ages have their Gas and Electric turned off because they cant afford to pay their bills. I could go on but as I said 'nothings changed' even in this day and age! Michael - excellent work from you and your crew. Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

    02/05/2010 02:20:05
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] in defence of the Carlow Gentry / Landlords
    2. An apt quotation indeed, Michael. It sums up very well the various conflicts and their outcomes, just about anywhere... but especially in Ireland. >From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> >Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] in defence of the Carlow Gentry / Landlords > >I have before quoted L.P. Hartley's >"the past is a distant country : >they do things differently there" >today it can be very easy to pass judgment from a comfortable armchair >and not allow for what my own actions might have been if I had been present >in that distant past. >mick. ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=Fo51dj4FLxsmNkVp95C4zQAAJ1C5MI1yGmXBDBQOt6A73qCIAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA=

    02/05/2010 01:24:22
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Ale and Beer 1817
    2. michael purcell
    3. 1st December 1817 (newspaper cutting). "FAIG A BEALACH" (Irish) MATHEW REDMOND, Begs leave to inform his Friends and the Public, that he has commenced BREWING, at his Little Brewery, on Cornwall Quay, Carlow, and has now ready for delivery, fine CARLOW ALE, *as it used to be* and very Superior TABLE BEER, both of which are made from the best Materials ; and he can assure his Friends, ( though the System is not sanctioned by Modern Practice ), that he uses Malt and Hops.

    02/05/2010 01:13:32
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1817 Nobility Ball in Carlow.
    2. michael purcell
    3. Carlow 11th December , 1817. (newspaper cutting ). Mr GARBOIS, BEGS leave most respectfully to inform the Nobility, and Gentry of Carlow, and its Vicinity, that his ANNUAL BALL is fixed for FRIDAY, 19th Instant, at the Assembly-Rooms, UNDER the PATRONAGE of the Hon. Mrs BROWNE, Lady BUTLER, and Lady BURTON, when previous to the Country Dances, and Quadrills, will be presented a Ballet, by his Pupils, consisting of various Fancy Dances, particularly the Spanish Bolero, and Pas Seul, by Miss GARBOIS. Admittance, Ladies 3s 4d. Gentlemen 4s 2d. Supper, with bottled Porter 2s 2d; Wine, a separate charge. Tickets to be had of Mr Garbois, at Goodall's Inn. N.B. Those Ladies and Gentlemen who wish to Dance Quadrilles, will be so good as to send in their Names, when Mr Garbois will appoint a Morning for practice at the Rooms. Ballet Dance to commence at half-past eight o'Clock. >>>> It will be a Moonlight Night.<<<<

    02/05/2010 01:04:09
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Museum 1979.
    2. michael purcell
    3. October 26th 1979. (Nationalist) Several hundred exhibits from the College Street premises , which had housed the museum since shortly after its establishment in 1972. have been moved to the new premises in the Town Hall, Carlow. Now, the museum will enjoy first class heating and lighting facilities, adding to its patrons enjoyment of the variety of exhibits, dating mostly from the middle of the 19th century. The badly needed space and other facilities were provided by the Town Council under an ANCO, Youth Employment Scheme. But the change of home for the museum is only the beginning of work for the museum management committee, which is under the auspices of the Old Carlow Society. By April the committee expects to have the museum open daily, employing a curator-caretaker for the summer season. Organisers of Sunday's move were museum committee members - chairman, Kevin Kennedy; secretary and trustee, Seamus Murphy; Pat Purcell (who is also the biggest contributor to the museum), James Westman, Willie Duggan (trustee) and Brendan Kealy (trustee)

    02/05/2010 12:37:43
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1818 Travel
    2. michael purcell
    3. "COVERED CARS" should read 1818.

    02/05/2010 12:18:00
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 10 Hours ~ Dublin to Carlow.....
    2. michael purcell
    3. 1819. From PPP. COVERED CARS, Between DUBLIN and TULLOW, every day, (Sundays excepted) START from No. 8, Mark's Alley, Francis-street at Eight o'Clock, and Arrive in Tullow before Six; - returning , they leave Tullow, at Seven and arrive in Dublin before Five. JOSEPH LEONARD, Proprietor, returns his unfeigned Thanks to the Inhabitants of Carlow and its Vicinity, for the Preference heretofore given to his Establishment ; and begs leave to inform them that he has fitted up above House as a HOTEL and LIVERY STABLES. He trusts from his unremitting Attention that those who may favour him with a Preference, will find such Accommodation as will merit a continuance of their Support > LEONARD will Let, or Sell the Interest in his House, ( known by the Sign of the Royal Oak ) , in Dublin-street, in the Town of Carlow, formerly occupied by Mr. J. Rochfort. The House is in thorough repair - a considerable sum having been expended in newly Roofing, Papering and Painting, fitting up the Out-offices, etc. Application to be made to Mr JOHN HOPE, Bridewell-lane, Carlow

    02/05/2010 12:12:38
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Mea Culpa
    2. Pat Zipf
    3. I second Jack's comments, Christina.....We are all "beholden" to you for your wonderful work. Pat Zipf Jamesburg NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: <JackLangton@aol.com> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Mea Culpa > > In a message dated 2/5/2010 9:20:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > chrisnina@gmail.com writes: > > Christina the chagrined > > > > Christina, > > No need to be chagrined, or even to chagrin and bear it. You and your > crew do a wonderful job and we out here are beholden to you all, (to use > another lovely old word.) Take care. > > Jack Langton > > > > > "if we had some bread we could make a ham sandwich, if we had some > ham" > > > > > . > >

    02/05/2010 10:14:26
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] in defence of the Carlow Gentry / Landlords
    2. michael purcell
    3. I apologise for my comments this morning at the end of the report on the Beresford vs Waters eviction of 1892. A lady here had carried out the research on this case and with my permission was posting the news reports as she came across them preserved in a scrapbook. I read the "final report" for the first time early this morning and I was upset at the outcome for the Waters family, my first reaction was to recall an event from the 1920s. I would like to point out that Carlow county in particular was blessed down through the centuries with many beneficial, caring and generous Gentry / Landlord families They created and gave employment to many Carlow people for generations and looked after the needs of their employees, tenants and their families in the bad times. In many cases they acted as fair magistrates and peace-makers during times of trouble, some of them found themselves involved in battles not at all of their making. I hope that the dozens of documents that Michael Brennan has reproduced on the Carlow site are a testimony to their good intentions and their standing in the community. Many of them are recorded in Jimmy O' Toole's book "The Carlow Gentry" a great book still available in bookshops (I.S.B.N. O 952 25440 O 9). The intention of publishing the details of the Beresford saga was to enlighten those who were unaware of this aspect of our complicated history. Many Listers / readers often mention of how their ancestors were evicted from the land and the Beresford reports (mainly from the Nationalist and Leinster Times ) gave an insight into the background of this particular case. I have before quoted L.P. Hartley's "the past is a distant country : they do things differently there" today it can be very easy to pass judgment from a comfortable armchair and not allow for what my own actions might have been if I had been present in that distant past. mick.

    02/05/2010 08:48:29
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] GRO certificates order on-line
    2. JJ Woods
    3. There is now a facility to order Irish BMD Certificates online, at www.certificates.ie The years covered are limited, with all Births from 1864, Marriages from 1920 and Deaths from 1924. Processing time for orders is approximately 5 days. J. J.

    02/05/2010 07:59:12
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Mea Culpa
    2. In a message dated 2/5/2010 9:20:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, chrisnina@gmail.com writes: Christina the chagrined Christina, No need to be chagrined, or even to chagrin and bear it. You and your crew do a wonderful job and we out here are beholden to you all, (to use another lovely old word.) Take care. Jack Langton "if we had some bread we could make a ham sandwich, if we had some ham" .

    02/05/2010 04:14:28
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Beresford vs Waters--The Final Round......
    2. michael purcell
    3. >From the scrapbook of Landlord Agent , Mr Charles Thorpe, in the PPP. August 1892. LANDLORDISM NEAR BORRIS. On Tuesday last ( 2nd August ) a widow, Mrs Anne Waters, at the age of 81 years with her family , were thrown out upon the roadside by her landlord, Mr Denis Pack-Beresford. Now deprived, not only of her home , but also of the resources of livelihood which she hoped to bequeath to her children. It will be remembered that so far back as August 1891 the tenant paid the entire amount due, viz., two years' rent including hanging-gale, and full legal costs, but as the period for redemption had expired a cheque for the amount is now held by Pack-Beresford's agent. So the poor tenant is now in the position of having parted with home and money. Mr Pack-Beresford so far has both, and it will be interesting to watch what he will do with poor Mrs Waters farm. The case is one eminently deserving of close public attention. The circumstances of the case reveal an arbitrariness that recall the by-gone days when the landlord could do what he liked. For the past six years Mrs Waters has been harassed by unreasonable rent exaction, and mulcted in law costs. The rent and heavy legal costs was long since paid to the agent, Mr Charles Thorpe who then wanted the tenant to enter an agreement containing unjust conditions. Last week, Mrs Waters , with her family , was thrown out upon the roadside and their house handed over to the tender mercies of the sheriff and the emergencymen, (crow-bar brigade ) at least one of whom wore a revolver, they have now barricaded the premises as if they feared an armed invasion to recapture it. Mr. Pack-Beresford will find that all Nationalists will combine , and that landlordism in its old form must not be revived in this country, and that respectable tenants , who are willing to pay their just obligations shall not be turned from their homes in order to satisfy a vindictive and despotic landlord. The employees of Mr Pack-Beresford have been engaged during the past week in carting over to Fenagh House the produce of Mrs Waters land, and some of the crops ( including a heap of coal ) have been stored at Pack-Beresford's farm. The greedy landlord's serfs with six horses and the necessary implements entered the Waters farm and without either care or consideration for the condition of the grain the whole corn crop was cut down and is left melting on the ground from that day to this. It is stated that portion of the work was personally superintended by Mr Denis Pack-Beresford. Other items removed by the emergencymen were ; farm carts, tools, two ricks of hay, implements, a donkey croydon, presses, furniture, utensils and sundry articles. The root and vegetable crops are likewise claimed by Mr Pack-Beresford and are specially guarded, the poor tenant today not knowing the luxury even of a potato from her own garden. ( Note added in 2010 by Michael Purcell. Over several hundred years thousands of evictions such as the one recorded here took place all over Ireland. Now some of you know why , down through the centuries, the Irish had to form and support such organisations as the Rightboys, the Whiteboys, the United Irishmen, the Defenders, Ribbonism, Fenianism, the Irish Republican Brotherhood, the Invincibles, the Irish National Land League, the United Irish League, Sinn Fein, the Irish National Volunteers, Cumann na mBan, the Irish Citizen Army, the Irish Republican Army, etc. I am aware of the account of a group of Irish Republican Army activists planning to burn down Fenagh House in 1920, this morning after reading the above account of Beresford's machinations I can understand why they might have wanted to do so. What I now find difficult to understand is the fact that the group were ordered not to proceed with their plan because de Valera had issued a directive that attacks by the IRA on the "Big Houses" of the gentry were to cease. It is believed that this directive from de Valera was issued because of his close friendship with Erskine Childers who had intervened with him on behalf of the gentry of Ireland. At a local level the 1920 story was confirmed to me by Pat Purcell, May Gibney and Robert Browne-Clayton of Browne's Hill. Thanks to Jean and her helpers for researching and typing up the reports of this Pack-Beresford history.

    02/05/2010 03:10:55
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Mea Culpa
    2. Christina Finn Hunt
    3. I have just realized that for some time the search engine I am using in the IGP Archives was skipping a lot of counties. My own fault. I had set up something incorrectly. If you relied on the search engine, then I would ask that you retry your search. There is a lot on the site that was being missed. I am so sorry. I should have realized something was wrong sooner. When I did my monthly search for new data, I became suspicious since counties were not showing up that I knew that had added pages. The url to start is http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ You can search using the drop down box to search your county of interest. Christina the chagrined http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

    02/05/2010 02:19:24
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] in the meantime --
    2. michael purcell
    3. During the Beresford vs Watters dispute Mr Pack-Beresford took himself off to Bangor, County Down to get married in August 1891. Here is a report preserved in a scrapebook in the PPP. May 1891, Carlow Morning Post. A marriage has been arranged between Mr Denis Pack-Beresford, of Fenagh House and Alice, only daughter of Mr James A, Lyle of Portstewart House, County Derry, and Glandore, County Antrim. August 1891. FASHIONABLE MARRIAGE IN BANGOR. The marriage of Mr Denis Robert Pack Beresford D.L. and Miss Alice Lyle was solemnised recently in Bangor Parish Church in the presence of a large and very fashionable congregation. >From an early hour the inhabitants of Bangor were astir and preparations were made to give the happy pair a very cordial welcome. In the church the cunning hand of the decorator had been at work, with the result that the chancel presented an appearance of exceeding beauty. The decorations which were executed by Lord and Lady Clanmorris, assisted by the head gardener from Bangor Castle.. As guests arrived and as each carriage stopped before the gates the occupants were cheered most heartily. Amongst the first arrivals were the Marquis of Dufferin and his party and the reception accorded them was of a very flattering character. Shortly after noon his Grace the Lord Primate of all Ireland entered the church building accompanied by the Very Rev the Dean of Down and the Rev. Canon Lyle (uncle of the bride). The father of the bride , with the bridegroom and his brother the best man, Mr Arthur Pack-Beresford, R.A. shortly afterwards arrived. Amidst ringing cheers and joyous peals the bride with her mother then approached the church from Bangor Castle, the residence of the bride's uncle. The bride's gown was of ivory satin duchesse, made in empire style, with flounces and veil of very lovely old Brussels point lace belonging to the bridegroom's mother; she wore a wreath of orange blossoms and white heather, fastened with a diamond spray necklace - one of the bridegroom's gifts - and an old pearl necklace with diamond barrel clasp, an heirloom in the Beresford family for generations. The four bridesmaids were each presented with a diamond and sapphire ring by the bridegroom. The bridal bouquet consisted of a cascade posy, composed of white roses, lilies, and heather. The service which was fully choral was then proceeded with. At the conclusion of the ceremony the hymn " O perfect love all human thought transcending" was nicely rendered by the choir, and Stainer's sevenfold "Amen" having been sung the bride and groom accompanied by their wedding guests, left the church and returned to Bangor Castle for the wedding breakfast. After the wedding breakfast , the couple left for Glendore where the father of the bride kindly placed the Fishing Lodge at their disposal for the honeymoon, which over they proceeded to Fenagh House Carlow their future residence. Amongst the distinguished company invited to the marriage ceremony were Mr. W. Browne-Clayton (uncle of the bridegroom) and Mrs Browne-Clayton of Browneshill House, Carlow. The arrival of the happy couple at Fenagh House after the honeymoon, was an event marked with the greatest enthusiasm. The happy pair travelled by the 1oc train from Dublin and arrived in Bagenalstown about 4oc. On their way from Bagenalstown to Fenagh groups of people were assembled to wish them welcome. At Ballywilliam Cross they were greeted by the Misses Stewart and a number of people who expressed their feelings by the waving of handkerchiefs. At the outskirts of the Home Farm a large body of people were assembled, including the tenantry, employees, and other residents of the surrounding neighbourhood. As the carriages approached the crowd formed a barrier through which the horses could not pass. The horses were immediately unyoked , and vociferous cheers were given for Mr and Mrs Pack-Beresford. The carriage was drawn by some of the crowd for over a mile and as it passed beneath the numerous flags, banners, and floral decorations cheers were repeatedly given, while bonfires and tar barrels blazed along the way. A wreath of evergreens and a motto were displayed at Mrs Thomas Jenkinson's gate and further down was another opposite Mr George Parker's residence bearing in large coloured letters " cead-mille-failthe". Opposite Mr Finn's gate was a wreath of laurels. The wreath in the farm yard was extremely pretty and bore the motto "Welcome" was creditable to the gardener Mr. Murphy. The arrival at the house was the occasion of general cheering, when Mr Beresford very appropriately thanked all for the enthusiastic reception accorded to his bride and himself. Immediately after nightfall a grand display of fireworks were set off on the grounds by the steward, Mr Henderson, followed by the bonfire which also lasted till midnight, when the tar barrels also succumbed. the We must not omit mentioning that dancing was kept up with great spirit as long as the tar barrel and bonfire afforded light to the merry makers. Mr and Mrs Beresford entertained their employees to a sumptuous dinner, at which over fifty sat down. When the cloth was removed the health of Mr and Mrs Beresford was proposed by the steward, followed by the health of Queen ,Victoria, and the young ladies and gentlemen of the Beresford family, all of which were drank with enthusiasm. After dinner, which was supplied by Mr McDonald, Bagenalstown, all proceeded to the pleasure grounds in front of the house where a variety of sports were held causing great amusement. When the sports were over and prizes distributed by Mrs Pack-Beresford, the company adjourned to the spacious barn in the farm yard, where the servants ball was held. Mr Denis and Mrs Beresford ( dressed in a white silk hand-painted dress ) graced the proceedings by opening the dance, gaily dancing the Kitchen-Lancers, they were joined by the members of the Beresford family, the general audience then joined in and the dancing was kept up almost till dawn. The intervals of rest were enlivened by humorous recitations and songs contributed by the audience. The barn was nicely decorated with evergreens and the walls covered in flags. Nothing was left undone to to make the evening an enjoyable one, and all seemed to take advantage of the cordial welcome extended. The wedding presents were costly and far too numerous to give a complete list of, and included some splendid gifts from the families and friends on both sides. Amongst the presents were the following from ; Mrs J. Lyle, lapislazuli seal ring; Mr Lyle, silver -backed brushes; Mrs Pack-Beresford, pearl and diamond ring; Mrs Ward, opera glasses; Colonel Thomas, magnifying glass; Mr John Watson, carriage watch; Mr and Mrs W.E. Grogan, silver cigar lamp; Major Alexander, lemon squeezer; Miss Burroughs and Miss A. Fludder, copper breakfast heater; Right Honourable Ion T. Hamilton, photo frame; Lady Victoria Hamilton, mirror; Mrs B. Watson, hunting crop; Browne cousins at Browneshill, silver mustard pot; house servants at Fenagh, silver handled paper knife; Mr T. Peevers, silver mounted hunting crop; Mr Hall-Dare, six silver vases; Miss Watson, silver mounted pocket book; Mrs Robert Watson, silver handled paper knife; Mr Hardy John Eustace, silver tray; Mrs Gray, toby mug; Lady Anson, silver mounted inkbottle; Major-General Sir Archibald Anson, Japanese tray; Mrs Watts, lace handkerchief; Mrs Brownrigg, Bible; Misses Toppy and Nellie Persse, silver comb; Mr A. McClintock,silver mounted pocket book; Fenagh House Cricket Club , clock; Sir C. and Lady Burton, travelling clock; Mr and Mrs J McClintock Bunbury , turquoise and diamond pin; Miss Evelyn Hall-Dare, one dozen coffee cups and saucers; Mr and Mrs Browne-Clayton, silver tea tray; Mr and Mrs Thorp, case of silver sugar bowl and tongs, cream jug and six spoons ; Lord and Lady Rathdonnell, two silver mounted liqueur decanters; Captain Torrens , Scots Grays, pearl and diamond bangle; Mrs Hall, lace handkerchief; Sir John Dickson, antique clock; Lady Pilkington, silver mounted inkbottle; Canon Finlay, Beleek jardinere; Mr and Mrs Bruen, tea table; Mr and Mrs Lecky, beer jug and two tumblers; Mr and Mrs Farrer, screen; Miss C. Vessy , pocket-book; Mr and Mrs Ponsonby, silver-mounted blotter; Mr T.T.P. Purves, cheque; Honourable Mr Bingham, guitar brooch; Honourable Ina Bingham, photographs; lady Pilkington, silver-mounted inkbottle and pen tray. There are many more presents recorded, the news article also states; The bridegroom's presents were also very numerous. No mention of a present from Mrs Anne Watters !!.

    02/04/2010 12:19:58
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] TOMARD COUNTY CARLOW
    2. tom gough
    3. Roger, There are no records for the Tomard cemetery. My wife has family buried there and we tried to obtain the records for it but the parish priest in Leighlinbridge told us that they have been gone for years and no one knows anything about them or what happened to them. Tom ________________________________ From: Roger Nowlan <rnowlan@primus.ca> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 31 January, 2010 17:32:01 Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] TOMARD COUNTY CARLOW Maribeth, Tomard is in the neighbourhood of Leighlinbridge towards the north on the western side of the river Barrow. There is tombstone in the Leighlinbridge cemetery for a John Nolan of Tomard. (see the third tombstone on this age http://www.nolanfamilies.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=26&page=1 ). Also you can view a map of the area by going to the following page and zooming in. http://www.traveljournals.net/explore/ireland/map/p452797/tomard.html . In particular, I notice that it is also close to Ballinabranna which had its own cemetery. (see http://www.nolanfamilies.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=79 ). I also have a picture of an old church ruin for Tomard but I don't know where the records for this church would be. I will send you the picture off-list. Bye for now, Roger *********************** http://nolanfamilies.org *********************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maribeth E. Nolan" <nolanme@verizon.net> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:22 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] TOMARD COUNTY CARLOW > I'm wondering if someone can tell me where Tomard is in County Carlow? Is > it near Leighlinbridge? My ggfather's tombstone indicates he's from > Tomard. Thank you. > > Maribeth E. Nolan > nolanme@verizon.net > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/03/2010 02:17:19
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] a little background to Beresford history
    2. michael purcell
    3. At this stage a short extract from "The Carlow Gentry" may give readers a little background to the Beresford history. From pages 24--27. "The Carlow Gentry" by Jimmy O' Toole 1993. (I.S.B.N. 0 9522544 0 9) "The image of Beresford as an absentee landlord was tough and uncompromising, a policy carried out with ruthless effect during the time of agent Charles Doyne. Doyne, whose family had a large estate in Tullow, was also land agent for the Kavanagh's of Borris, and with such a large block of tenant farmer votes under his control, he wielded enormous power during the political turmoil of the 1830's............................. There were few estates in the county during that period to equal the level of evictions experienced by tenants of Beresford. In 1836 , the Liberal politician Nicholas Alward Vigors , in a petition to Parliament, said 86 families had been evicted in the parish of Bagenalstown during the previous few years. Fifteen families were issued with notices to quit in Slyguff, and at one point , Beresford was accused of having evicted 103 families. In March 1835 , Doyne was quoted as having told a meeting of tenants --"that Lord Beresford was determined to provide a class of tenants for his estate over whom the priests would have no influence". In that policy , Doyne seems to have succeeded because Fr. Andrew Phelan , a curate in Dunleckney, accused Beresford of "persecuting Catholics because of their religion". Seventeen families were evicted from Kilcloney, and of the 120 acres involved, 100 acres were given to two Protestant families, and the remainder to two Catholic tenants. Evictions were a much used political propaganda weapon capitalised on by the opponents of landlords at election time ; and frequently , notices to quit -- sometimes not acted upon -- were added to the statistics of actual evictions. Landlords were sensitive in such propaganda wars, and in 1841, Beresford successfully sued The Morning Chronicle for its inaccurate and libellous description of evictions on his estate near Tinryland.

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