Griffiths Valuation of Ireland - Lorum, County Carlow James William Sliguff Lorum Carlow Treacy > From: kenjames@sympatico.ca > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:52:44 -0500 > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Fw: Is there a "Kilcreett" Co. Carlow > > > > Greetings: > > I am trying to locate the residence of an ancestor that was married in > > Lorum Parish, Co. Carlow on Feb 8 1848. His name was William JAMES a > > carpenter from "Kilcreett" (from what I can make of the writing) who > > married Eliza MAY of "Ballinree". My problem is that I don't know of any > > "Kilcreett" anywhere in Ireland. Perhaps they meant "Kilrcee" in Co. > > Dublin. Suggestions? > > Thx > > Ken > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

It could be kilcruit. > From: kenjames@sympatico.ca > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:52:44 -0500 > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Fw: Is there a "Kilcreett" Co. Carlow > > > > Greetings: > > I am trying to locate the residence of an ancestor that was married in > > Lorum Parish, Co. Carlow on Feb 8 1848. His name was William JAMES a > > carpenter from "Kilcreett" (from what I can make of the writing) who > > married Eliza MAY of "Ballinree". My problem is that I don't know of any > > "Kilcreett" anywhere in Ireland. Perhaps they meant "Kilrcee" in Co. > > Dublin. Suggestions? > > Thx > > Ken > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

*A large crowd gathered outside the gates of Carlow Military Barracks on Tuesday morning as convoys of British troops were leaving Carlow. * *Among them was recently released I.R.A. man , Tom Seeley, who shouted to one of the departing officers; "good riddance to the king's rubbish" the officer replied; " Mr. Seeley don't be too enthusiastic, for you will be welcoming us back soon to prevent all you Irish from killing each other ". Commandant Liam Stack, who is mentioned in this report, was one of the leading I.R.A. figures during the War of Independence. He had been placed, working undercover, in Carlow where he was employed under the name "John Leahy" in McAnally's Pharmacy (later Coreless's Chemist shop) in Dublin Street. In 1921 he commandeered Duckett's Grove during the Truce, where he recruited members of the I.R.A. and others to help form the new Irish Free State Army. He subsequently married Sarah Reynolds, daughter of the caretaker of Carlow Court House, and in later years he served as a Chief Superintendent in the Irish Police Force (Garda). The following report was published in the Nationalist on the 11th February 1922. Nationalist and Leinster Times. Military Leaving Carlow. BARRACKS TAKEN OVER. Early in the week one hundred men of the Northumberland Fusiliers left Carlow, and during later days the remainder took their leave. In the meantime the stores, etc. had been auctioned and removed. It was at first stated that the formal taking over of the Barracks by the Irish Republican Army would take place on Tuesday morning, but the function was postponed till the following afternoon at 3 o'clock. Then 5 o'clock was mentioned. A large crowd had assembled in town, and there was much enthusiasm. The band of the Fianna was in readiness. However , shortly after noon on Thursday the Barracks were taken over, Brigade -Commandant Liam Stack, was accompanied by several of the local staff, and the general appearance of the occupying detachment reflected credit on the Commandant and all concerned. The detachment left the Town Hall for the Barracks . A large number had assembled . Apart altogether from the processional display there was a large assemblage at the barrack gate, and when the well appointed men of the I.R.A. passed through the portals a ringing cheer went up. No doubt the scene was heartening . Carlow Military Barracks --on of the oldest in Ireland -- was taken over by the forces of the Irish Nation. A large Sinn Fein flag was hoisted over the central entrance, and before a good many people understood the significance and historicity of the scene the crowd had dispersed. Perhaps one of the best comments on the incident was passed by one old lady who tearfully exclaimed in accents full of sincerity : "Thanks be to God" . So say we all.*

I was born a MALEY. My father: Philip Edward MALEY, was baptized O'MALEY; his father: James MALEY. My great grandfather: Edward MALEY, Jr his father was; Edward MALEY, Sr b 7-Feb-1820 County Carlow,Ireland married Catherine WHALEN b 1820/22 County Carlow,Ireland. Do not know where or when married in Ireland. Would very much like to know who their parents were, date of marriage and where. They both came to USA Nov 26,1850 arrived Port of New Orleans,LA on the ship Halcyon. All were Roman Catholic and possibly original name was O'MALEY and changed to MALEY some where along the way. Any info would be greatly appreciated on this family or allied families. Thanking you in advance Pat MALEY-CURTIS anglers@bullshoals.net Researching: GORMAN-MALEY-McCAFFERTY-McGRATH-McNALLY-WHALEN

As Treacy said, that would be Kilcruit, Killcruit ,or even Kilcruight, or something like that. The spelling changes depending on the person. --- On Wed, 2/17/10, Roger Nowlan <rnowlan@primus.ca> wrote: From: Roger Nowlan <rnowlan@primus.ca> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Kilkriite, Co. Carlow To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 7:48 PM Hi! In case the original query was not satisfactorily answered. (I know there was a query about Kilkriite just recently but infortunately I no longer have the original query and responses). **** While looking over an old map of Carlow from the 13th century (from Michael Brennan's Carlow website)  I noticed a location called "Kilkriite" next to another place called Kilgrany. Comparing the old map to a modern map I would say that "Kilkriite" was in the area between Ballinkillin and the river Barrow, following a northwesterly direction. Bye for now, Roger ******************** http://nolanfamilies.org ******************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Brennan" <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Ballinabranna House and Bagenalstown House > There is also a link to Ballinabranna House on the Carlow website at: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Ballinabranna_House.htm > and Bagenalstown House at: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Bagenalstown_House.htm > > Regards > > Michael Brennan > > Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ronnie , in reply to your message this is the last email posted from you. I wish you the best with the Lotto !. On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Shorten Family <shortenfamily@eircom.net>wrote: > J.J. and other Listers, As you may have read in previous e-mails, my > great > grand-mother was Elizabeth Hughes from Ballinabranna house. She married my > great grandfather, James Dowling of Linkardstown in May, 1851. Her father > was Edward Hughes 1778-1836 and he married Mary Conor 1796-1879. We don't > know his father's name. Edward and Mary had seven daughters and one son. > Their children were as follows : Tim who married Mary Byrne, Alicia who > married Pierce McGrath of Bagenalstown. The McGraths left a lot of money to > Bagenalstown and the Memorial Hall and football field etc. Anne married > John > Browne of Bagenalstown, Julie married Laurence Hosey , Margaret married > John Ryan, Brigid married A McKeever ? And one daughter went to > California > and married a man called Shale or Hal, we don't know anything about her. > If > anybody has anything else on this family I am interested ! The house is > lovely and if I win the Lotto I will buy it and keep it in the family ! It > is situated on the hill and the countryside around it is beautiful. Ronnie > Shorten > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJ Woods > Sent: 07 February 2010 00:44 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Bagenalstown House > > Here is a link about Ballinabranna House: > > http://www.colliersjs.com/news180.htm > > J. J. > > > > On 7 February 2010 00:37, JJ Woods <woodsjj@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Michael, > > > > the only information I can find is what is included in Marck Bence-Jones' > > book "A Guide to Irish country Houses".. > > > > Bagenalstown House. A 2 storey Georgian house with a front of 2 curved > bows > > joined by a conservatory. The home of Mr. John Hedges Becher (of the > family > > of Fecher/IFR, but not actually included in the pedigree). > > > > There is no mention of Ballinabranna House. > > > > J. J. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 February 2010 21:15, Michael Brennan > <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk>wrote: > > > >> There are two Gentry houses which were mentioned in CARLOW GENTRY by > >> Jimmy > >> O'Toole 1993., but no details about the specific houses and who the > >> families > >> were. One of those was Ballinabranna House. The second house was > >> Bagenalstown House: > >> http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/Bagenalstown-_House.htm > >> > >> I cant find any information on Bagenalstown House anywhere so I am > hoping > >> that someone can help me find out who built the house and when? > >> > >> The only info I have been able to find is that a Mr. John Newton lived > >> there > >> at one time but I have no date for this event. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Michael Brennan > >> > >> Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > >> My Laois Page: > >> http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ======================================= > >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > >> subscribe to the List. 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> Greetings: > I am trying to locate the residence of an ancestor that was married in > Lorum Parish, Co. Carlow on Feb 8 1848. His name was William JAMES a > carpenter from "Kilcreett" (from what I can make of the writing) who > married Eliza MAY of "Ballinree". My problem is that I don't know of any > "Kilcreett" anywhere in Ireland. Perhaps they meant "Kilrcee" in Co. > Dublin. Suggestions? > Thx > Ken

Nationalist, February 1922. The 2nd Gordon Highlanders evacuated Portlaoighise Military Barracks on Friday week and left for Glasgow by two special trains, the first carrying baggage and equipment, and an advance guard of 3 officers and 92 men. The second train carried the remainder of the detachment, viz: 14 officers and 292 men. They were played to the Railway Station by their pipers, playing the air "Old Comrade". The departure of the first lot was witnessed by only a few civilians, but the main body received the farewells of a crowd of weeping maidens and some other residents, including a number of the Royal Irish Constabulary. A few of the "Gay Gordons" were particularly gay on the night before they left for Bonnie Scotland, and indulged in some frivolities including the breaking of windows, and the smashing of some of the little stone pillars outside Mr. Turpin's residence in Coote Street. It is fair to say however , that these were the acts of only a few men, and the townspeople say that the general behaviour of the men of the regiment was much better than that of some of the English soldiers who previously garrisoned the town. Outside the small circle who reaped some financial advantage from the presence of the troops there was a general feeling of satisfaction and rejoicement at their leaving the town and county.

>From the PPP. Nationlist January 1922. D'ISRAELI SCHOOL, RATHVILLY. Chairman of Board of Governors -- The Right Rev. Dr. Day, Bishop of Ossory. Secretary of Board of Governors --- The Right Hon. Lord Rathdonnell, H.M.L. School will re-open after Xmas Holidays on 16th January. Healthy situation and home comforts. For terms apply to --- Mr. or Mrs. W. R. Price, at the School.

Note in the PPP. circa 1912 ?. Testimonial to Mrs Governey, N.T. Ballylinan. At a meeting held in the National Schools Ballylinan, Father John Murphy P.P. stated that Mrs Governey had many sterling qualities and the parish should honour her for her long and faithful service as a guiding light for over 35 years as principal teacher in Ballylinan. Her kind and gentle manner won for her the high regard and esteem of all. She has discharged her duties faithfully , earnestly and efficiently. Father Murphy said that he was opening a subscription fund to show the parish appreciation for all her years teaching among the people of Ballylinan. Dr. McKenna promised a large donation to such a subscription list. (signed) ?. Shortall.

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The 2nd Gordon Highlanders evacuated Portlaoighise Military Barracks on Friday week and left for Glasgow by two special trains, the first carrying baggage and equipment, and an advance guard of 3 officers and 92 men. The second train carried the remainder of the detachment, viz: 14 officers and 292 men. They were played to the Railway Station by their pipers, playing the air "Old Comrade". The departure of the first lot was witnessed by only a few civilians, but the main body received the farewells of a crowd of weeping maidens and some other residents, including a number of the Royal Irish Constabulary. A few of the "Gay Gordons" were particularly gay on the night before they left for Bonnie Scotland, and indulged in some frivolities including the breaking of windows, and the smashing of some of the little stone pillars outside Mr. Turpin's residence in Coote Street. It is fair to say however , that these were the acts of only a few men, and the townspeople say that the general behaviour of the men of the regiment was much better than that of some of the English soldiers who previously garrisoned the town. Outside the small circle who reaped some financial advantage from the presence of the troops there was a general feeling of satisfaction and rejoicement at their leaving the town and county.

British armed forces known as The Auxiliaries departed Carlow early in February, they were followed a day later by The Black and Tans. This report covers the departure of The Black and Tans from Carlow Military Barracks. The regular British Army departed later in the week. Nationalist, February 1922. The Exodus. That section of the Royal Irish Constabulary , " popularly" known as " The Black and Tans " left Carlow on Monday evening. The departure was witnessed in idle curiosity. Some of the departees were in unusually good spirits, and cheered lustily as they took a last look at the Carlow Barracks.

I've just received this from another site, www.theshipslist.com They seem to have an extraordinary database of ships, passengers, crew, etc. Regards Jackie.

[image: IRA 1916-1923, Ballymurphy, County Carlow, Ireland. by rockface.]

There is also a link to Ballinabranna House on the Carlow website at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Ballinabranna_House.htm and Bagenalstown House at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Bagenalstown_House.htm Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

In accordance with the terms of the Anglo-Irish Treaty, all political political prisoners were to be released from British custody. With the British Army, the Royal Irish Constabulary and the Black and Tans confined to barracks the following scenes were recorded throughout the Free State. This report covers the home-coming of the Carlow I.R.A. men. Six months later, during the Civil War, many of them would take up the gun again but this time against each other. Nationalist, January 1922. Release of Political Prisoners. Enthusiastic Scenes in Carlow. Scenes of great enthusiasm marked the home-coming of the released political prisioners in Carlow, and surrounding districts during the week. Before the arrival of the 8.20 train on Saturday night a large crowd gathered within the area of the Railway Station, and as the train arrived there was a tremendous cheering which was renewed again and again as the ex-political prisoners alighted on the platform. The immediate relatives and friends of the men were the first to extend a hearty welcome, and then the cheering of the vast crowd marked the public appreciation of the sacrifices and hardships which their fellow-townsmen had undergone for their country's freedom. The following released political prisoners arrived on Saturday night :- M. Condren, Brownes Hill ; John Cullen, Brownes Hill ; John Fitzgerald, Brownes Hill ; J. Williams, Staplestown Road ; Martin Byrne, Staplestown Road ; Thomas Sheen, Barrack Street ; Jas. Mooney, Pollerton Road ; Jos. Kenny, Pollerton Road ; ( these were arrested last March and sentenced to 12 months imprisonment ). Thomas Seeley, College Street (arrested November 1920 , sentenced to 18 months ) ; James Corcoran, Graiguecullen ; (arrested October 1920, sentenced to two years ) The above named were serving their terms in Exeter, Wandsworth, Pentonville and other English prisons. William McKenna, Granby Row, who was serving 10 years in Mountjoy, was arrested at Ballymurphy last April. Outside the Railway Station the crowd formed up in processional order, headed by the Carlow Fianna Pipers Band, next came the Carlow Company of Volunteers, Carlow Branch Cumann na mBan, Fianna Eireann (Carlow and Graiguecullen ); St. Fiacc's Band, Graiguecullen , Company Volunteers , Killeshin, Cumann na mBan, Killeshin, Michael Fay Sinn Fein Club, followed by an immense crowd of the general public. The torchlight procession passed along the Dublin Road, Dublin Street, and Tullow Street to the "The Shamrock" where a halt was called ; then back again through Tullow Street and Dublin Street to the Town Hall where Mr Seeley on behalf on himself and his fellow ex-prisoners, thanked the people for the hearty reception they had extended to them. Numerous houses in the town were illuminated, particularly in the streets through which the procession passed. Similar scenes were witnessed on Monday and Tuesday nights on the arrival of other ex-prisoners. The following arrived on Monday night ; James Foley, The Shamrock, T. Dowling, Graiguecullen, L.Shaw, Pollerton Road, Michael Leonard, Tullow Street, all arrested last March and sentenced to 12 months imprisonment. They were incarcerated in Pentonville Gaol and were amongst those who visited Roger Casement's grave after their liberation. On Tuesday night Thomas and Michael Behan, Graiguecullen and Michael Ryan , Tullow Street arrived and were accorded a rousing reception. The procession marched through Dublin Road, Dublin Street, Tullow Street, and back again through Castle Street, Coal Market and Church Street to Behan's residence. Mr Quinn, Solicitor, Bagenalstown, in a short but eloquent address thanked the people for the warm welcome accorded to the Behans and Ryan, which he assured them , they greatly appreciated. Graiguecullen was brilliantly illuminated for the occasion, and bon-fires blazed in Coal Market and at the "Croppies Grave" . The brothers Behan and Michael Ryan were sentenced to 10 years in connection with the incident at Ballymurphy. A further demonstration took place on Thursday night , when Sean O'Neill , College Street, arrived home from Dartmoor Convict Prison. Mr O' Neill , who was arrested in November 1920, was tried by court-martial at Belfast for the alleged kidnapping of a railway signalman in Cavan. The huge procession headed by torch-bearers and accompanied by the Carlow Fianna Pipers and Graiguecullen Fife and Drum Band, Companies of Volunteers, Fianna Eireann and Cumann na mBan paraded the town to the ex-prisoner's residence. On arrival there Mr O'Neill thanked the people for their hearty welcome , in Irish and English.

In the Index to Leighlin Administrative Bonds (1752-1814) there are two entries for a Luke Nowlan: 1761 - Luke Nowlan, yoeman of Kilmaglush/Kylemaglush [RN: lease?] 1767 - Luke Nowlan, farmer of Shankill [RN: lease?] Does anyone know what sorts of "Bonds" are covered here? Marriage? Land assignments? etc. Does anyone know if copies of the original text of the these administrative bonds are available and from where? With best regards, Roger Nowlan ************************** http://nolanfamilies.org **************************

The beginning of administration for county Carlow can be traced back to 1328, under powers granted by King Edward the Third. The administrative staff consisted of a Sheriff and a sub-Sheriff together with clerks and record keepers. There were also sergeants and Keepers of the King's Peace. There was also units established for the functional administration of justice. An Act of 1634 authorised the Justice / Magistrate of the Assize, with the consent of the Grand Jury , to construct and repair roads and bridges. The cost of this was levied against the county and barony land and property owners. In 1898 the Local Government Act was enacted , the Grand Jury system was replaced by elected County Councils. The first elected chairman of Carlow County Council was John Hammond of Tullow Street, Carlow (his shop was later owned by Ger Donnelly ). John presided as Chairman from 1988 to 1907. The population of Carlow county in 1891 was 40,936 and one hundred years later in 1991, the population was 40,988. In 1956, the population of the county dropped to its lowest level since census taking began, at 33,888.

January 1922. Nationalist. Notice to Creditors: Edward Brennan, late of the Strand, Ballickmoyler, farmer, deceased. All Persons claiming to be creditors or having any claim or demand against the estate of the above named deceased are hereby required forthwith to furnish particulars (in writing ) of said claims or demands to the undersigned Solicitor. John J. Duggan, College Street, Carlow. 23rd day of January 1922.