Nationalist. December 1922. NOTICE ---IMPORTANT. I request the public in general to forward me any information which may lead to the discovery and arrest of the robbers who are going loose in Carlow town and county. I guarantee that, if such information is forth-coming there will be a sudden halt to the march of those criminals, and that they will be drastically dealt with by the Republican Authorities. It is inadvisable that sums of money be taken on delivery vans as the robbers seem intent on watching those vehicles for loot. In case of robberies of any description persons should immediately inform the nearest I.R.A. authorities so that they may get on the track of the criminals. Every man should do his upmost to defend his own property when no other help is at hand. Motor cars should never halt at night on any account. (signed) Liam Stack, Commandant, Irish Republican Army.

Pat you might have missed some of the 1922 postings because it was far from "normal" times...with no Police force in operation, it was a very difficult period. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Pat Molloy <pwm29@sky.com> wrote: > The Military Funeral of Mr F. Gunning took place during the Truce when both > the IRA and the British Forces were operating a "ceasefire". > > Obviously, many of the "large attendance" would be family and friends but I > wonder how many attended simply to take part because it represented a > return > to a normal way of life. It must have been an odd time to have lived in > Ireland, not knowing what the future held. > > Pat Molloy. > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Military Funeral of Mr F. Gunning took place during the Truce when both the IRA and the British Forces were operating a "ceasefire". Obviously, many of the "large attendance" would be family and friends but I wonder how many attended simply to take part because it represented a return to a normal way of life. It must have been an odd time to have lived in Ireland, not knowing what the future held. Pat Molloy.

I found this entry when transcribing for another site. It may be of interest to someone. Times of India 01 August 1866 Death Massy, Dawson Godfrey at Calcutta 1866 Jul 20 July 20th at the Medical Officers' Quarters, General Hospital, Calcutta, of fever, Dawson Godfrey Massy Esq, Bengal Medical Staff, only son of the Rev Dawson Massy, rector of Killishin, Carlow, Ireland and grandson of the late Hon Eyre Massy, aged 28 years. Cathie

The interesting thing about the Ida Forsaith letter looking for Salters relatives is that Ida was also in the Pat Purcell Papers looking for Watson relatives from Fenagh !....her family were connected to the "Union Steel Casting Company" in Pittsburgh which in 1922 was valued at three million dollars...a considerable sum in 1922 ....( says I, not considering it considerable today ! ) INQUIRY FROM AMERICA. To the Editor "The Nationalist and Leinster Times." Sir ---The subjoined letter was passed on to me by Mr. Michael Governey, County Council. I shall be glad to hear from anyone who is interested . I would remind your readers that the original parish of Fenagh included parts of the present parishes of Aghade and Tullow. ----Yours faithfully, T. W. Pettipice. To the Mayor of Carlow. August 20th 1921. Sir---Would you be kind enough to find out for me if any relations of Thomas Salters, who came to the city of Allegehrey, Pennsylvannia, about 1845, are still living ? He came from the parish of Fenagh, with his wife --Jane Joyce ---who had a brother, the Rev. John Joyce of Trinity College Dublin. Mr Joyce was one of the first ministers of the city of Pittsburgh. Thomas Slaters made a Will in 1858, in which he leaves a hundred dollars to every widow in the parish of Fenagh, and five hundred dollars to his nephew , one Peter Neill. I am a grand-niece of Mrs. Jane Salters. I found this old Will , but no mention is made of the money having been paid to the widows. If you will kindly look into this matter I will consider it a great favour. ----Yours respectfully, Ida J. Forsaith, Pittsburgh, Penn. U.S.A.

Front page headline. Nationalist, October 27th 1951. ANNE DOYLE'S HOUSE. Three hundred years ago you would have found a family of Doyles in the parish of Ballon. Anne Doyle, a frail old lady of 70 years, is the sole descendant of that ancient family living in the district to-day. Her friends think of her as the wretched queen of an unfortunate tragedy. Seven years ago she handed over one acre of her four-acre holding to Carlow County Council in return for a promise that they would build her a house there. She occupied the house for a few brief days, but on October 10th the bailiff and his men put her and her belongings on the side of the road. For generations the Doyles of Rathrush lived in a thatched cottage on four acres, from which they won a bare existence. Long after her brothers , now dead, had married and left , Anne and her sister Mary lived on in the home, which was already showing signs of age. When Mary died, Anne on the advice of neighbours made a statue acre over to the County Council, believing that they would build her a cottage. The plot was fenced off, but the war halted all building. For seven years she paid the rent of the plot, and was the acknowledged tenant. Meanwhile she had left the decaying homestead and went to lodge with neighbours. At last the builders arrived and week by week she saw the house she believed to be hers take shape. Then came the blow. When the cottage was complete, the Authorities decreed that it would not go to her. Exasperated the old woman took up unauthorised occupation. The Law held that she had no legal claim on the house, an Ejectment Order followed, and on the 10th October she watched her belongings being carried to the roadside. The County Council Secretary, Mr. P.A.Lawler outlined the official view to our reporter. Miss Doyle and her sister were alive when the Council first said they would build the cottage, and had it been built right away, they would have been appointed tenants. Mary Doyle has since died, however, and Anne is alone, and instead the house will go to a married man with several children.

First of all Thanks to all reply's regarding above. Brian Whichever way I go the websites will be linked. In answer to Tom and Christina. Accessing Rootsweb server you only have to access the folder which holds all the files so the time to download/upload is not as long because you don't have to wait for the pages within the folder to open. Accessing the TriCon Technical Services server is a different matter. When you log on to the server it downloads all the pages and images before you can start uploading new data. Could they not use a Folder the same as Rootsweb? I am still looking into the possibility of splitting the website to make it more manageable but linked together at the same time. So any suggestions will be gladly received. Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

[ comment from Michael Purcell 2010. extraordinary , a British Military Funeral during the Anglo / Irish Truce. This may well have been the last time that a Military Funeral was held to acknowledge the role of an ex-British Serviceman in the 26 counties Irish Free State / Republic. ] Nationalist, September 21st 1921. MR. F. GUNNING. We regret recording the death of Mr. F. Gunning, which occurred at his residence, Burrin Street, Carlow, on Sunday. Deceased had reached a very advanced age and had been resident in Carlow for upwards of half a century. The late Mr. Gunning was one of those who had few enemies and many friends, and he was highly respected by the people of Carlow of all shades and classes who appreciated his gentlemanly qualities. Having seen service in various campaigns, including the Crimean War, Mr. Gunning became attached to the 8th Battalion King's Royal Rifles (Carlow Militia) as Sergeant Major, and on returning took up permanent residence in his adopted town. The internment took place in Killeshin Churchyard on Tuesday, and the funeral --a military one -- was very largely attended. The band of the 5th Battalion Norththumberland Fusiliers played the Dead March and the Last Post was sounded. Rev. Canon Ridgeway, M.A., officiated at the graveside.

Off -List there have been many positive comments emailed to me regarding the 1922 Nationalist series, I think it is best if those who wish to comment do so on the List, otherwise it is difficult for me to reply individually to each comment. In the last posting I published details of the Truce of 1921 , this led me back to the early days of the Truce, I had a quick glance at the Nationalists for the June -December 1921 period and came up with some interesting articles: Before we pop back to 1922 here is the first of a few articles I would like to share in the coming week : INQUIRY FROM AMERICA. To the Editor "The Nationalist and Leinster Times," Sir ---The subjoined letter was passed on to me by Mr. Michael Governey, County Council. I shall be glad to hear from anyone who is interested . I would remind your readers that the original parish of Fenagh included parts of the present parishes of Aghade and Tullow. ----Yours faithfully, T. W. Pettipice. To the Mayor of Carlow. Sir---Would you be kind enough to find out for me if any relations of Thomas Salters, who came to the city of Allegehrey, Pennsylvannia, about 1845, are still living ? He came from the parish of Fenagh, with his wife --Jane Joyce ---who had a brother, the Rev. John Joyce of Trinity College Dublin. Mr Joyce was one of the first ministers of the city of Pittsburgh. Thomas Slaters made a Will in 1858, in which he leaves a hundred dollars to every widow in the parish of Fenagh, and five hundred dollars to his nephew , one Peter Neill. I am a grand-niece of Mrs. Jane Salters. I found this old Will , but no mention is made of the money having been paid to the widows. If you will kindly look into this matter I will consider it a great favour. ----Yours respectfully, Ida J. Forsaith, Pittsburgh, Penn. U.S.A.

Hi Ken - I have read that there was state-aided emigration for Irish folk wishing to settle in Canada in the 1880s. This may be similar to the government-sponsored schemes under which many people emigrated to New Zealand in the 1870s. However there is also some evidence that other factors were in play in Ireland as 1879-1882 brought great destitution and suffering to the country, said to be surpassed only by the Great Famine itself. There is a paper on JStor by Gerard Moran which may go further into this - I am unable to access more than the first page. http://www.jstor.org/pss/25512998 Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Website: http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] War of Brothers ???? > Hi There: > I don't want to stir up any problems, but I keep hearing that unsettling > phrase. My G-G-Grandparents (JAMES/Fitzjames and LEECH) who were longtime > residents of Kildare and Carlow left everything in 1882 and the entire > family sold everything and came to Smiths Falls, Ontario, Canada. I am > trying to understand why (ie not potato famine - but must have been severe > as the youngest of six was barely a year old). I "Googled" the phrase but > came up with many (I think biased) descriptions. To further complicate > things, I understand that the resulting unrest is much of what still is > fealt in Northern Ireland today. I just don't seem to understand or absorb > what was/is going on to cause so much hatred/unrest. It just isn't logical > and I don't understand. Again, I don't want to open a wound or "sore > point", > but can somebody point me to a book/ resource where I can get some true > answers. They did not teach any Irish history in Ontario schools, and I am > sort of the person who does not readily accept everything he reads. > Thanks Again > Ken

Dear all, I have no opinion either way on the matter of milk/water on Good Friday, but at a C/Kavanagh Gathering in Carlow in 2008 a local speaker mentioned that Carlow was one of the lesser affected counties during the famine. One extract I have seen gives percentage of famine deaths as: Connaught 40%, Munster 30%, Ulster 21% and Leinster (which of course contains Carlow) 9%. Population decline between 1841 and 1851 does not quite mirror this: Connaught 28.8%, Munster 22.5%, Ulster 15.7% and Leinster 15.3%. (from Wikipedia). Carlow also had one of the highest percentages of literacy in the country in 1841, with only Dublin and Wicklow having higher percentages in the southern counties (Down and Antrim were the highest, both above 40% - they also had the lowest percentage of 'low class housing'. See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irelandlist/famine.html#Famine) This does not mean that the Carlow workhouses were not 'packed full' during the famine years, as the number and capacity of Irish workhouses was woefully inadequate for dealing with a calamity of this scale - sources suggest that even when all workhouses (in Ireland) were completed their total capacity was little more than 100,000. Some workhouses were not completed until 1850 (eg Castletownbere, Co Cork) which was way too late to have any impact on the famine needs. Prior to the famine, Irish workhouses are said to have run at about 40% of capacity . Clearly this is a complex and difficult topic, but one which is central to our research. Economics, previous famines, politics, social attitudes, and land tenure are just a few of the factors which contributed to this terrible time. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Website: http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Fast and Abstinence !. I definitely don't want to be the start of any anti-religious tirade on any faith. That's not the purpose of this forum but I think that what we can learn from records like this is that neither religion had any monopoly on power grasping, evil intentions or saintly behaviour. It doesn't seem to me very likely that the workhouse chaplain was on the saintly side. That's all. This is a new notion to me that Carlow did not suffer greatly from the potato famine. Does anyone have any Carlow-specific information about that? >From what I understood the workhouse in Carlow was packed full for some reason. Tom

The Land Wars occurred between approximately 1880 and 1892 and led to many evictions. Tenants who paid rents demanded by the landowners or their agents were sometimes ostracised by their neighbours who refused to pay - demanding a reduction in rents, etc. The motto being "Fair Rent, Fixity of Tenure and Free Sale". If you do a Google search on something like "irish evictions 1880s" will return a variety of articles covering the issues. Just don't take everything you read as gospel! Remember that everybody has a point of view! J. J. On 2 March 2010 04:02, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > Hi Ken, all, > > Anyone interested in the history of Ireland would benefit by reading > _The Course of Irish History_ by T. W. Moody and F. X. Martin. It's > in its 4th edition now, and it just gets better with each new version. > The book was originally written as a companion volume to an Irish > television series on Irish history that first showed during the 1960s > in celebration of the 50th anniversary of the Easter Rising. > > While the book looks at Irish history from antiquity through the 20th > century, the later chapters give a good comprehensive overview of the > events of the past 100 years and explain quite a lot about how people > came to be at war with their neighbors. > > Best, > > Bill Gawne > > Ken James <kenjames@sympatico.ca> writes: > > > Hi There: > > I don't want to stir up any problems, but I keep hearing that unsettling > > phrase. My G-G-Grandparents (JAMES/Fitzjames and LEECH) who were longtime > > residents of Kildare and Carlow left everything in 1882 and the entire > > family sold everything and came to Smiths Falls, Ontario, Canada. I am > > trying to understand why (ie not potato famine - but must have been > severe > > as the youngest of six was barely a year old). I "Googled" the phrase > but > > came up with many (I think biased) descriptions. To further complicate > > things, I understand that the resulting unrest is much of what still is > > fealt in Northern Ireland today. I just don't seem to understand or > absorb > > what was/is going on to cause so much hatred/unrest. It just isn't > logical > > and I don't understand. Again, I don't want to open a wound or "sore > point", > > but can somebody point me to a book/ resource where I can get some true > > answers. They did not teach any Irish history in Ontario schools, and I > am > > sort of the person who does not readily accept everything he reads. > > Thanks Again > > Ken > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HelloMichael, I never realized just how much of a job it is to keeo the site going and how much time you devote to it. You are truly under appreciated and I find I not only have a totally new sense of appreciation for you and all site owners but also a tremendous amount of gratitude. THANK YOU SO MUCH for your dedication. Whatever way you decide to go...I for one am behind you one hundred percent. Mixchelle Wilson Vermont USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Brennan" <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Website where next? >of the message

Sorry I was thinking of Kildare, where I have ancestors as well. --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> wrote: From: Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Fast and Abstinence !. To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:00 PM I definitely don't want to be the start of any anti-religious tirade on any faith.  That's not the purpose of this forum but I think that what we can learn from records like this is that neither religion had any monopoly on power grasping, evil intentions or saintly behaviour. It doesn't seem to me very likely that the workhouse chaplain was on the saintly side.  That's all. This is a new notion to me that Carlow did not suffer greatly from the potato famine.  Does anyone have any Carlow-specific information about that? >From what I understood the workhouse in Carlow was packed full for some reason. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Walsh Sent: 01 March 2010 18:03 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Fast and Abstinence !. Tom, Oopsies, lost the last one.  I remember as a child being told to abstain on Good Friday and Ash Wednesday, and we did as a family and a school. My wife and I still observe the rules, but we are not saints. >From what I have learned, Carlow was not touched by the potato famine as other counties because they grew beets instead of potatoes. I could be wrong about this. I am sure that most priests were pious, and observed the Lenten way. I doubt the workhouse chaplain was a fraud, but he could have been. Brian d the body of the message ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I want to voice the same gratitude and thanks...Michael, you have done such a wonderful job with the site so far, that I know whatever you decide will only serve to enhance an already EXCELLENT genealogy site! ----- Original Message ----- From: C Donohue To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Website where next? Michael wish I could advise but think you know my abilities from many years ago however I do want to echo Gail and say muti thanks for all you do for us. Charlie in Ottawa > I have not been active on the site lately but still monitor the activity via email. > > I just wanted to thank you so much for all the work and time you devote to the site. I hope to become more active in the future. So much more to do! > > Gail > ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, but, I would think 9 out of 100 people dying would be terrible if it happened in my neighborhood or my church group....even though 40 out of 100 would be way worse. Fran On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Patricia O'Shea wrote: > Dear all, I have no opinion either way on the matter of milk/water > on Good > Friday, but at a C/Kavanagh Gathering in Carlow in 2008 a local > speaker > mentioned that Carlow was one of the lesser affected counties > during the > famine. > > One extract I have seen gives percentage of famine deaths as: > Connaught 40%, Munster 30%, Ulster 21% and Leinster (which of course > contains Carlow) 9%. > > Population decline between 1841 and 1851 does not quite mirror this: > Connaught 28.8%, Munster 22.5%, Ulster 15.7% and Leinster 15.3%. (from > Wikipedia). > > Carlow also had one of the highest percentages of literacy in the > country in > 1841, with only Dublin and Wicklow having higher percentages in the > southern > counties (Down and Antrim were the highest, both above 40% - they > also had > the lowest percentage of 'low class housing'. See > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irelandlist/ > famine.html#Famine) > > This does not mean that the Carlow workhouses were not 'packed > full' during > the famine years, as the number and capacity of Irish workhouses was > woefully inadequate for dealing with a calamity of this scale - > sources > suggest that even when all workhouses (in Ireland) were completed > their > total capacity was little more than 100,000. Some workhouses were not > completed until 1850 (eg Castletownbere, Co Cork) which was way too > late to > have any impact on the famine needs. Prior to the famine, Irish > workhouses > are said to have run at about 40% of capacity . > > Clearly this is a complex and difficult topic, but one which is > central to > our research. Economics, previous famines, politics, social > attitudes, and > land tenure are just a few of the factors which contributed to this > terrible > time. > > Regards, Patsy - New Zealand > > Website: > http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com > > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Fast and Abstinence !. > > > I definitely don't want to be the start of any anti-religious > tirade on any > faith. That's not the purpose of this forum but I think that what > we can > learn from records like this is that neither religion had any > monopoly on > power grasping, evil intentions or saintly behaviour. It doesn't > seem to me > very likely that the workhouse chaplain was on the saintly side. > That's > all. > > This is a new notion to me that Carlow did not suffer greatly from the > potato famine. Does anyone have any Carlow-specific information > about that? >> From what I understood the workhouse in Carlow was packed full for >> some > reason. > > Tom > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL- > CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message frances heidel 皮 fradel@comcast.net Consultant - Arbonne International Wellnessnskincare.myarbonne.com 610-631-2585

Hi Ken, all, Anyone interested in the history of Ireland would benefit by reading _The Course of Irish History_ by T. W. Moody and F. X. Martin. It's in its 4th edition now, and it just gets better with each new version. The book was originally written as a companion volume to an Irish television series on Irish history that first showed during the 1960s in celebration of the 50th anniversary of the Easter Rising. While the book looks at Irish history from antiquity through the 20th century, the later chapters give a good comprehensive overview of the events of the past 100 years and explain quite a lot about how people came to be at war with their neighbors. Best, Bill Gawne Ken James <kenjames@sympatico.ca> writes: > Hi There: > I don't want to stir up any problems, but I keep hearing that unsettling > phrase. My G-G-Grandparents (JAMES/Fitzjames and LEECH) who were longtime > residents of Kildare and Carlow left everything in 1882 and the entire > family sold everything and came to Smiths Falls, Ontario, Canada. I am > trying to understand why (ie not potato famine - but must have been severe > as the youngest of six was barely a year old). I "Googled" the phrase but > came up with many (I think biased) descriptions. To further complicate > things, I understand that the resulting unrest is much of what still is > fealt in Northern Ireland today. I just don't seem to understand or absorb > what was/is going on to cause so much hatred/unrest. It just isn't logical > and I don't understand. Again, I don't want to open a wound or "sore point", > but can somebody point me to a book/ resource where I can get some true > answers. They did not teach any Irish history in Ontario schools, and I am > sort of the person who does not readily accept everything he reads. > Thanks Again > Ken

Hi There: I don't want to stir up any problems, but I keep hearing that unsettling phrase. My G-G-Grandparents (JAMES/Fitzjames and LEECH) who were longtime residents of Kildare and Carlow left everything in 1882 and the entire family sold everything and came to Smiths Falls, Ontario, Canada. I am trying to understand why (ie not potato famine - but must have been severe as the youngest of six was barely a year old). I "Googled" the phrase but came up with many (I think biased) descriptions. To further complicate things, I understand that the resulting unrest is much of what still is fealt in Northern Ireland today. I just don't seem to understand or absorb what was/is going on to cause so much hatred/unrest. It just isn't logical and I don't understand. Again, I don't want to open a wound or "sore point", but can somebody point me to a book/ resource where I can get some true answers. They did not teach any Irish history in Ontario schools, and I am sort of the person who does not readily accept everything he reads. Thanks Again Ken

Hi Everyone I am looking for some advice. The Carlow website has got to a stage where its too big to handle as one website. There is more than 2500 pages (not including images) and of course its growing daily. It now takes anything from 10 minutes on a good night to 30 minutes on a bad night, to download from the server so that I can up load new material. I know, that sounds Irish! In order for me to upload new material to the website I have to access the server and wait for all of the files and images to download and then it takes another 10 to 30 minutes to upload the new material. The times do vary depending on the day of the week. Some days the link breaks and you have to go back and start all over again. Have you ever sat in front of your PC and watched files transfer from one location to another? very boring! I am thinking about splitting the website into two different website; one for Records and one for Documents. I want to use Rootsweb (and I know that decision is not going to sit well with everyone) because they are the most reliable and of course its FREE. There are so many different sectors within the Rootsweb organisation http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~websites/international/uk.html I am not sure which one would be the right one to sign up for so I would like to hear for any Carlow List member who has knowledge / experience in this area and can give me advice on where to go next. Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm -------------------------------------------------- From: <irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:00 AM To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 113 > > > When replying to a message in digest, please don't forget to change the > subject and delete all parts of the digest not related to your message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Carlow 1810 (michael purcell) > 2. 1821 Warren etc. (michael purcell) > 3. 1823 Window broke in Chapel Lane. (michael purcell) > 4. Hickey etc. (michael purcell) > 5. 1829 Hickey etc. (michael purcell) > 6. 1829 Hickey+Carroll+Ward+Kavanagh+Rochfort. (michael purcell) > 7. Thomas+Hobson+Vanston+Hannon+ Rathvilly (michael purcell) > 8. 1802 Tolls and Customs. (michael purcell) > 9. 1819 Haughy+Curran+Nowlan+Ryan+McGahy+Jackson (michael purcell) > 10. Curran+Herring+Butler. (michael purcell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:12:15 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow 1810 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280312j548b2126x7a4e921bfe2a9c9f@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Carlow 1810. > The undersigned respectively acknowledges themselves to be Indebted unto > our > Sovereign Lord King George the Third , in the Sums to their Names > respectively annexed that is to say > Margaret Hearns, John Hearns, Michael Hearns maketh Oath that they usually > reside at Athy Street, Carlow . > Ten Pounds each. > (signed) by all three. > John Doyle , maketh Oath that he usually resides at Dublin Street, Carlow. > John Doyle, maketh Oath that he usually resides at Athy Street, Carlow. > Five > Pounds each. > if the above Bounded shall appear in their proper Persons in open Court on > the First day of the next General Quarter Sessions and answer all Matters > and Things as shall be objected against them on behalf of our said Lord > the > King.(signed) T. Gurley. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:25:47 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1821 Warren etc. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280325x455f51b3p9d94d35b970dc9d6@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 1821 Recognizance: > > James Warren, Householder, of Ballymurphy in the Parish of Tankardstown > in > the Barony of Rathvilly in Carlow and that he is worth the Sum of five > pounds sterling above all his just Debts. > John Hackett of Tullow, in the Barony of Rathvilly, Carlow ten pounds > etc. > John Whalley of Tullow etc. five pounds. > Catherine Fenlon resides in Ballymurphy etc. ten pounds. > Alice Redmond resides in Ballymurphy etc. ten pounds. > Thomas Galway of Tullow etc. ten pounds. > Michael Byrne of Tullow etc. ten pounds. > James Hackett of Tullow etc. ten pounds. (all sign ). > Sworn before me this 3rd day of August 1821. > (signed) William Carter. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:36:17 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1823 Window broke in Chapel Lane. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280336p3deb17f4o5bdb9c1869127ff6@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Carlow 1823. > Witnessed by William Humprey, Esquire, one of his Majestys Justices of the > Peace for Carlow. > Whereas Roger Hughes of Carlow town, Gentleman, came this day before me > and > made Oath on the Holy Evangelists > Saith that on Tuesday the Sixth Day of May, Thomas German , Late of Ballyh > ? > , Farmer, came to Francis Hughes Dwelling House in Chapel Lane in the Town > of Carlow in a most Riotous and Disorderly Manner, Broke a Window Thereon > and Called him and the Inmates of the House ---Several Scandalous and > Indifferent Names and Said that he would be Revenged of Him or Them. Sworn > before me this 12th Day of May 1823. (signed) William Humfrey. Roger > Hughes. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:29:53 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Hickey etc. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280429hfe8c8a5s5388ab0393d8703d@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The Information of Mary Hickey of Knockroe, in the Parish of Kiltennell, > Barony of Idrone, County of Carlow. > Sworn states that on Thursday 2nd Day of July about the hour of Twelve > O'Clock at noon she went to Bog of Knockroe > for a Basket of Turf (a distance of about half a Mile) that in a short > time > after her return from the Bog she missed a Gun , which was in the room, > and > also seeing the drawer of a Kitchen dresser (partly open ) she examined > the > drawer and found that there was feloniously taken thereout Cash in Silver > but to what amount she cannot say --She lastly Swears that when she missed > both Gun and Cash and on examining her brother (John Hickey) he told her > that Henry Ward and Danial Carroll came into the House that Danial Carroll > took him and their other sister out and kept them in an Outhouse and after > sometime Carroll let him go and that when her Brother came out of the Out > House he seen the aforesaid Henry Ward taking away the Gun. (signed with > her > mark X) Mary Hickey. > Thomas Kavanagh, J. Rochfort. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:30:59 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1829 Hickey etc. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280430u3bd38djdafecbc669b2d4ec@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 1829. The Information of Mary Hickey of Knockroe, in the Parish of > Kiltennell, Barony of Idrone, County of Carlow. > Sworn states that on Thursday 2nd Day of July about the hour of Twelve > O'Clock at noon she went to Bog of Knockroe > for a Basket of Turf (a distance of about half a Mile) that in a short > time > after her return from the Bog she missed a Gun , which was in the room, > and > also seeing the drawer of a Kitchen dresser (partly open ) she examined > the > drawer and found that there was feloniously taken thereout Cash in Silver > but to what amount she cannot say --She lastly Swears that when she missed > both Gun and Cash and on examining her brother (John Hickey) he told her > that Henry Ward and Danial Carroll came into the House that Danial Carroll > took him and their other sister out and kept them in an Outhouse and after > sometime Carroll let him go and that when her Brother came out of the Out > House he seen the aforesaid Henry Ward taking away the Gun. (signed with > her > mark X) Mary Hickey. > Thomas Kavanagh, J. Rochfort. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:09:58 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1829 Hickey+Carroll+Ward+Kavanagh+Rochfort. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280409j4a71febwde72a8b36da429bb@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Carlow 1829. > The Information of John Hickey of Knockroe, Parish of Kiltennel, Barony of > Idrone, County of Carlow. > Saith that On the 2nd July last his father and mother were at the fair of > Borris, that Henry Ward of Knockroe, Carlow and Danial Carroll of > Ballytcristal in the County Wexford came into his father's house and took > Informant and his sister , kept them in an Outhouse for some time and when > Carroll let them at liberty, he saw Henry Ward going off from the dwelling > House with a Gun. Sworn at Borris this 13th Day of July 1823. > (signed) Thomas Kavanagh, J. Rochfort. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:48:41 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Thomas+Hobson+Vanston+Hannon+ Rathvilly > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280448q49564ba8k96ce77dcb9a260de@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 1806. > Abraham Hobson, Esquire, Gentleman of the Currah Lands in the Parish of > Hacketstown, Barony of Rathvilly, County of Carlow. > Indebted to our Sovereign Lord King George the Third in the sum of Ten > pounds to be levied of or from his goods and Chattles, Lands and > Tennements > if default shall be made in the Conditions under written. Abraham Hobson > will bring forward Davis Vanston of Currah Lands in his proper person at > the next General Quarter Sessions of the Peace to be held in Tullow and > answer such things as shall be objected against him by our Sovereign Lord > the King and James Hannon of Monastile or Little Scotland, Hacketstown. > (signed) Abraham Hobson, (signed ) Francis Thomas, > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:35:27 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1802 Tolls and Customs. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280735k1d4c3f24sd6367682deffb266@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >>From ; PPP. > William Hannon of Little Scotland, County Carlow, came to me this 4th day > of February 1802 and made Oath > that Richard Hannon the Elder, Richard Hannon the younger and John Hannon > all of Little Scotland and Darby > Hannon of Hacketstown, County Carlow have forcibly and contrary to Law > taken > possession of and receive > by force the Tolls and Customs of Hacketstown Fair, which said Tolls and > Customs are the Property of William Hannon by virtue of a Lease from Lord > Wicklow. Sworn before me ; William Hoare Hume. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:47:10 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1819 Haughy+Curran+Nowlan+Ryan+McGahy+Jackson > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280747v21c872e6mfb94944067839cc@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >>From PPP. > William Haughey of Carlow Town, Dealer. > Saith that on the night of Tuesday the 21st December 1819 > he being at his Dinner in his own house when Michael McGahy of The > Colliery > in the Queen's County, > School Master, entered his house and called him to the Door where he > assaulted, Struck, beat and abused > this informant without any provocation. > In that the said person was aided and assisted by Maurice Curran, Michael > Nowlan, Fredrick Ryan, William Nowlan, Margaret Curran. > Informant Saith that they made a second attack on his house to break in > his > door and beat him but being dragged away they could not . > Sworn before me this 22nd day of December 1819. > (signed) R. Jackson, Magistrate. (signed, with his mark X) William > Haughey. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:23:21 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Curran+Herring+Butler. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280823n61aaef18q79aa72858134cdbb@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > That James Herring, Patrick Curran , Labourers and John Curran, a Mason, > all > of the town of Carlow with many other unlawful disposed Persons and > Disturbers of the Peace of our Sovereign Lord the King whose Names the > Jurors are ignorant of on this the 20th Day of April in the 10th Year of > the > Reign of our Sovereign Lord, George the Fourth, by the Grace of God, of > the > United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith > and > so-forth, with Force and Arms, that is to say , with Swords, Sticks, and > so-forth at Carlow did then and there riotously, routously and unlawfully > assemble and associate themselves together, and that James Herring, > Patrick > Curran and John Curran being then and there so riotously, routously and > unlawfully assembled and associated together as aforesaid, did then and > there make a great affray, contrary to the Peace of our Sovereign Lord, > George the Forth, by the Grace of God King, his Crown and Diginty. And the > Jurors aforesaid upon their Oath , do further say and present that the > said > James Herring, Patrick Curran and John Curran on the 20th Day of April in > the said tenth Year of the Reign of Sovereign Lord, George the Forth, by > the > Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland , King, > Defender of the Faith and so-forth, with force and arms at Carlow Town > aforesaid in the County of Carlow aforesaid in and upon one James Butler a > true and faithful Subject of our said Sovereign Lord the King in the Peace > of God and of our said Sovereign Lord the King, then and there did beat > and > ill treat and other wrongs to him then and there did Contrary to the Peace > of our Sovereign Lord, George the Fourth, by the Grace of God , King, his > Crown and Diginity. (signed) H. Moore. > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 113 > ****************************************** >

Since Carlow messages seem to be getting through for me tonight, I thought I'd send this (I may have done so a few months ago, but I don't recall): ANNE KATHLEEN COOPER JACKSON Died peacefully of an old heart on October 10, 2009 at The Atrium Villa in Hamilton, beloved wife of the late Canon W. Ernest Jackson. Born in Cronescagh House, Hacketstown, Co. Carlow, Eire. Long time member of Christ's Church Cathedral and Anglican Business & Professional Women's Association. Dear sister of Eileen Olver of Mississauga. Predeceased by brothers Samuel and Joseph Cooper. Will be sadly missed by sisters-inlaw Isobel Cooper and Marjorie Cooper. Also missed by nieces and nephews who remember the summers at the cottages at Featherstone Point on Lake Erie. Thanks to her nieces who arranged birthday parties and gatherings for Anne (Sis) in her later years. These gatherings were always appreciated. A special thanks to the staff at The Atrium who took great care of Anne during her past eight years. For those who wish instead of flowers, donations to the Hamilton- Burlington SPCA would be most appreciated. In keeping with Anne's wishes there will be no visitation. A Funeral Service will be held at Markey Dermody Funeral Home, 1774 King Street East, on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 at 1 p.m. Interment to follow at Woodland Cemetery. . Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl