I believe I have a copy of They First Arose. First published in 1967, Billy Nolan had it republished in 1998.  This was done in conjunction with the publishing of a second book by his father William (Bill) Nolan. Due to his untimely death(1971), this work The Man of Boolavogue remained unpublished.  Both books were launched in William`s  former pub in Ballon in 1998,  by Leighlinbridge and Carloviana man, Martin Nevin.  As with most writers I`m sure there will  be a box of these books tucked away in Nolans in Ballon.  I will call Billy tomorrow and let you know.  Claire  --- On Mon, 1/3/10, maryfr14@comcast.net <maryfr14@comcast.net> wrote: From: maryfr14@comcast.net <maryfr14@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] They First Arose To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 1 March, 2010, 18:59 Thanks Maureen -  Evidently someone else got to that other copy before I did.  Amazon now has me on a wait list for a used copy.  So I hope they find one. Thanks again, so much,   Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Mautrav@aol.com To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 8:47:54 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] They First Arose I found, and ordered, a copy of the book at Amazon.com. As of this   morning,  Amazon had 1 additional copy for sale.   Maureen N     In a message dated 3/1/2010 2:55:38 A.M. Central Standard Time,   carlowmike@gmail.com writes: William's son had it republished in 2009, no idea where you might get  it , On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:59 PM, <maryfr14@comcast.net>  wrote: > > > Do  you know if this book is still in  print and where it would be > available? > >  Mary ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Mick I knew about Shackleton's school, John Bowles of Ballintrane's children went to it, but I didn't know that Abraham Shackleton started off as a tutor to the Cooper and Duckett children. Nice little detail to add to the Cooper story I'm putting together. Thanks Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 04 March 2010 13:17 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Coopers+Ducketts+Shackletons [ Note added 2010. Remember that all the incidents transcribed from the 1921 Nationalist newspapers were published during Ireland's War of Independence, Jan. 1919 -- July 1921.] Nationalist and Leinster Times, March 1921. Sir Ernest Shackleton. It is scarcely necessary at this time of day to recall that Sir Ernest Shackleton, the famous young explorer, who is fitting out another expedition to the unchartered regions of the Antarctic, is an Irishman. The founder of the Shackleton family in Ireland was Abraham Shackleton, grandfather of Mary Leadbeater, the gifted annalist of Ballitore. A Yorkshireman of sturdy Quaker descent, who removed to Ireland in early manhood as a private tutor to the children of two Quaker country gentlemen in County Carlow , John Duckett of Duckett's Grove and William Cooper of Cooper's Hill. His success as a teacher caused his friends to advise him to open a school, which he did at Ballitore village in 1726. ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks very much Cara. Once again you have provided our Listers with very valuable information for their research. I will get them loaded this weekend. Don't worry about the uploading / downloading thing going on at the moment I will get it sorted in due course. The websites will not be affected. Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm -------------------------------------------------- From: "Cara_Links" <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 8:09 AM To: <mb006r9209@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: RATHVILLY- 1832 > Well I was going to send this last week, but when it became an issue on > the site, being hard to load or download or what ever it is you do > Michael, I left them where they were in the file.

Handbill in the PPP. March, 1921. CURFEW IN CARLOW. . The hours when people residing in Carlow Urban area are compelled to remain indoors are from 9 p.m. to 5 a.m. By Military Order.

[ War of Independence ] Nationalist, March 1921. LADY SEARCHERS IN CARLOW. On Wednesday night, two lady searchers, accompanied by military, visited Miss Laffan's in Dublin Street, and Miss Brophy's in Tullow Street, and made a minute personal search of the female inhabitants.

[ Note added 2010. Remember that all the incidents transcribed from the 1921 Nationalist newspapers were published during Ireland's War of Independence, Jan. 1919 -- July 1921.] Nationalist and Leinster Times, March 1921. Sir Ernest Shackleton. It is scarcely necessary at this time of day to recall that Sir Ernest Shackleton, the famous young explorer, who is fitting out another expedition to the unchartered regions of the Antarctic, is an Irishman. The founder of the Shackleton family in Ireland was Abraham Shackleton, grandfather of Mary Leadbeater, the gifted annalist of Ballitore. A Yorkshireman of sturdy Quaker descent, who removed to Ireland in early manhood as a private tutor to the children of two Quaker country gentlemen in County Carlow , John Duckett of Duckett's Grove and William Cooper of Cooper's Hill. His success as a teacher caused his friends to advise him to open a school, which he did at Ballitore village in 1726.

Nationalist, 12th March 1921. Young man shot dead. On Sunday morning last a force of British military arrived in Rathanna near Borris, Carlow, while Mass was being celebrated. There are several "Mass paths" in the vicinity. James Hayden, who had been at Mass and Holy Communion was proceeding home by one of those paths accompanied by three other men. While crossing the field a shot rang out and Mr. Hayden fell dead, shot through the back. It is stated that the party were halted in the usual way. Owing to an order from Dublin Castle, Mr. R.P. McDonald, Coroner, was prohibited from holding an inquest in this particular case. Deep sympathy has been extended to his widowed mother and brother, Rev. Father Hayden, C.C. Bagenalstown. The funeral on Wednesday was one of the largest seen for years. R.I.P.

Nationalist 12th March 1921. Big Moyle Estate. We are pleased to hear during the week-end that the Rathoe , County Carlow, Land Committee had purchased from Lord Rathdonnell, the Fee Simple of Moyle Estate, obtaining 412 acres (statute), for the sum of £16,000. This estate adjoins Kellistown, making a huge tract of land which will be divided amongst the evicted tenants, uneconomic holders and landless men. It inspires one with national energy to picture that extent of untenanted land studded with homesteads. >From a study of the history of the district, its people will imbibe deep-seated religious beliefs and high-souled patriotism in the exercise of which they will be a strong factor in retaining our position in the world as the noblest and most respected of nations. Our best congratulations should be extended to the Rathoe Committee for the just peaceful, and unostentatious manner in which they acquired the lands.

Nationalist 1921. Miss Mary O'Toole, has been nominated by President Harding Judge of the Washington Municipal Court, and is the first lady lawyer to receive such a distinction. Miss O'Toole, who is a native of Hacketstown, left for America when she was only sixteen years of age, after receiving an ordinary primary school education. Miss O'Toole is a sister of Nicholas and J.J. O'Toole, N.T. Nicholas is a prominent member of Carlow County Council. About six months ago he was arrested in the round-up by police and military at Hacketstown and conveyed to the Rath Internment Camp at the Curragh. Mary is the first woman judge in the District Municipal Court, and only woman director of the Washington Chamber of Commerce and the first woman director of the Citizens Savings Bank, besides being founder and first President of the Women's City Club in Washington, numbering about 2.000 members.

Nationalist and Leinster Times. September, 1922. WEDDING BELLS. The marriage took place at Rathvilly Parish Church on Thursday 24th August, 1922, of the Rev, Ed. Gordon Campbell M.A., M.B., D.P.H., elder son of Edward Campbell and Mrs. Campbell, George's Park, Urlingford, and Miss Clare Irene O'Callaghan, only surviving child of Rev. J. O'Callaghan, O.B.E., B.D., and Mrs. Callaghan, Rathvilly Rectory. The officiating clergymen were the Lord Bishop of Ossory, D.D., assisted by Rev. J.L.Dwyer, M.A., Baltinglass; Rev. George McKinley, M.A., Kilcooley, and the bride's father. The church was beautifully decorated for the occasion by Mr. Charles Faulkner and the garden staff at Lisnavagh. The bride who was given away by Lieut-Col. Raymond, late R.A.V.C., wore a wreath and veil, and was prettily attired in a gown of ivory embroidered moracain and carried a sheaf of Madonna lilies. Her only ornaments were a gold and garnet necklace and pendant, the gift of Lord and Lady Rathdonnell. Her bridesmaid was her cousin, Mrs. Winifred Whitaker, who was dressed in a frock of delphinium blue crepe de chene, embroidered with tiny steel beads, and a black lace picture hat. She carried a bouquet of pink and white sweet peas and wore a gold slave bangle, the gift of the bridegroom. Dr. J.A.Acheson acted as best man. As the happy couple left the Church their path was strewn with rose petals. Amongst those present at the Rectory after the ceremony were ---Lord and Lady Rathdonnell, Mr. L.H. and Mrs. Poe, Mrs. Heath, Mrs. and Miss Whitaker, Mrs and Miss Aileen Love, Mrs. Grant, Miss Green, Mrs. Price, The Bishop of Ossory, Col. Raymond, Rev. and Mrs. Ellison, Rev. and Mrs. J.L. Dwyer and Miss Dwyer, Rev. T.E. Young, Rev. J. Fairley, Dr. Acheson, Mr. Ed Campbell, Mrs. J.Y. Campbell, Rev. G. McKinley. The Bride and Bridegroom were the recipients of many beautiful and costly presents. Amongst those most highly valued being one from the women of Rathvilly village who have known the Bride since her childhood. The Rathvilly Church choir and some parishioners also from the residents of Lisnavagh District.

I have been a lurker on this list for some time, and also was intrigued by the mention of the link between Captain Louis Edward Nolan (of the Light Brigade) and Moses Nowlan of Kilkenny. It has been family lore among my Nolan cousins that our family was related to Captain Nolan, but I have never been able to trace the link. My GGgrandfather James Nolan was born in Carlow around 1804 and emigrated to Peterborough Co, Ontario, in the late 1820's. He likely had a brother Edward born in Carlow about 1795 and whose older children Martin, Patrick, Loughlin, and James, were born in Ballykealey or Coneberry Townland, Co. Carlow between 1822 and 1830, before that family also emigrated to Ontario. (Roger Nowlan has been very helpful in providing the Carlow details on this family.) The family claim about Captain Nolan can be traced to Martin and Loughlin, who in separate newspaper accounts mention the relationship. Loughlin is quoted in the Peterborough Examiner in 1918, saying Louis (incorrectly named as Charles) was a first cousin, which seems unlikely. Martin Nolan's obituary in the same paper in 1903 also says he is a grandson of Lord Eustachius of County Carlow, which seems to be a bit of grandiosity. Meg McGowan Honolulu Begin forwarded message: > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:30:05 -0500 > From: "Roger Nowlan" <rnowlan@primus.ca> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Nowlan (MOSES) & Nolan (LOUIS EDWARD) > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <597F4E2E75FC40029B1372BD815904AB@RogerNetBook> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Mick, > I had read about Captain Moses Nowlan but did not know that he was related > to the Nolan of "Light Brigade" fame. I am interested in finding out more > about this Kilkenny (Carlow border?) family. > > My notable absence from the list during the past two weeks is due to me > working on the next issue of the Nolan Clan newsletter. > > I did also see your other recent postings wherein the Nolan family name > appeared but have not had time to comment. I hope to do so after the > Newsletter is mailed off (in time for St. Patrick's day). > > With best regards, > Roger Nowlan > > *********************

Mick, I had read about Captain Moses Nowlan but did not know that he was related to the Nolan of "Light Brigade" fame. I am interested in finding out more about this Kilkenny (Carlow border?) family. My notable absence from the list during the past two weeks is due to me working on the next issue of the Nolan Clan newsletter. I did also see your other recent postings wherein the Nolan family name appeared but have not had time to comment. I hope to do so after the Newsletter is mailed off (in time for St. Patrick's day). With best regards, Roger Nowlan ********************* http://nolanfamilies.org ********************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:44 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Nowlan > Nationalist 1921. > Tatler. > The reference in "By the Way" column of "The Freeman" to Colonel Nolan and > the Charge of the Light Brigade reminds a correspondent that of the same > family of Kilkenny and Carlow soldiers was Captain Moses Nowlan , or > O'Nowlan, who was a recruiting officer in Ireland for the armies of the > King > of Spain. > He was caught and tried in the Court of the King's Bench in June 1726, for > enlisting Wild Geese, and it was sworn that he had "shipped off 200 men > during those two months past for the said service, and had 100 more to go > off that night" > Found guilty, he was hanged at the Irish Tyburn, near Stephen's Green in > Dublin, where so many illustrious men, including Archbishop O' Hurley, of > Cashel, suffered for Faith and Fatherland. > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nationalist 1921. Tatler. The reference in "By the Way" column of "The Freeman" to Colonel Nolan and the Charge of the Light Brigade reminds a correspondent that of the same family of Kilkenny and Carlow soldiers was Captain Moses Nowlan , or O'Nowlan, who was a recruiting officer in Ireland for the armies of the King of Spain. He was caught and tried in the Court of the King's Bench in June 1726, for enlisting Wild Geese, and it was sworn that he had "shipped off 200 men during those two months past for the said service, and had 100 more to go off that night" Found guilty, he was hanged at the Irish Tyburn, near Stephen's Green in Dublin, where so many illustrious men, including Archbishop O' Hurley, of Cashel, suffered for Faith and Fatherland.

Many thanks Mick, The Rathdonnells were coming from Drumcar, Co Louth - probably to check out the state of Moyle as its previous owner, Col. Kane Bunbury (uncle of Lord R) had died 10 days earlier aged 97. Mr Kavanagh was presumably the Incredible Mr Kavanagh about whom I have written here: http://www.turtlebunbury.com/history/history_heroes/hist_hero_arthur_kavanagh.html Best for now, Turtle Turtle Bunbury www.turtlebunbury.com Old Fort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland Mob: + 353 - (0) 87 - 6453 486 Skype: turtle1847 Turtle Bunbury is a best-selling author and travel writer based in Ireland. He has lately launched www.HistoryinaBook.com which offers an innovative way to transform your family history into a compelling read. Turtle's seventh book, Vanishing Ireland - Further Chronicles of a Disappearing World, with photographer James Fennell, was the top- selling Picture Book in Ireland over Christmas 2009. On 3 Mar 2010, at 18:44, michael purcell wrote: > Carlow Sentinal, November 14th 1874. > Fashionable Intelligence. > Lord and Lady Rathdonnell and suite have arrived at Moyle, Carlow, > from > Drumere (?) , county Louth. > Mr. Kavanagh, M.P., left Kingstown on Monday for England. > Dowager Lady Wolsely and suite arrived in Dublin on Thursday from > England. > Calls to the Bar ----Amongst the gentlemen called to the Bar, at the > sitting > of the Court of Chancery on Monday, we observe the name of an > esteemed young > Carlow gentleman, Philip Henry Bagenal, Esquire, A.B., Oxford, second > surviving son of the late Philip Henry Bagenal, Esquire, of > Bennekerry, in > this county. We sincerely wish Mr. Bagenal every success in the > honourable > profession he has chosen, and which judging from his high literary > attainments he is well qualified to adorn. > A Royal Marriage ----In Bonapartist circles mention is made of a > projected > marriage between the Prince Imperial and the daughter > of the Grand Duchess Maria of Russia. > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. > No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

Carlow Sentinal, November 14th 1874. Fashionable Intelligence. Lord and Lady Rathdonnell and suite have arrived at Moyle, Carlow, from Drumere (?) , county Louth. Mr. Kavanagh, M.P., left Kingstown on Monday for England. Dowager Lady Wolsely and suite arrived in Dublin on Thursday from England. Calls to the Bar ----Amongst the gentlemen called to the Bar, at the sitting of the Court of Chancery on Monday, we observe the name of an esteemed young Carlow gentleman, Philip Henry Bagenal, Esquire, A.B., Oxford, second surviving son of the late Philip Henry Bagenal, Esquire, of Bennekerry, in this county. We sincerely wish Mr. Bagenal every success in the honourable profession he has chosen, and which judging from his high literary attainments he is well qualified to adorn. A Royal Marriage ----In Bonapartist circles mention is made of a projected marriage between the Prince Imperial and the daughter of the Grand Duchess Maria of Russia.

The paradox that emerges from researching the The Nationalist reports of 1921 - 1922 is to witness how everyday life continued as if nothing was happening elsewhere. Concerts were performed, the Picture House advertised its movies, Tennis Tournaments, Sports, Fairs, Dances, Auctions were held , social interaction remained "normal" for most Carlovians. What struck me about the Military Funeral for Gunning was the fact that the British Military under the terms of the Truce were to remain confined to Barracks and not hold any military display, The fact that Gunning had served in the Crimean War may have earned him respect on all sides , besides, according to his Obit. he seems to have been well liked. I was pleased to find the report and wonder did such displays take place in other areas during the Truce period. I will be delving into the local occurrences during the next few weeks as we copy some more news items from the Nationalists in the PPP.Thanks for your comments Pat , much appreciated, mick On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Pat Molloy <pwm29@sky.com> wrote: > Michael, > > Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly. > > In "abnormal" times, which was certainly the situation in Ireland at that > time, people often have a need to do things which are "normal". It's one of > the ways they cope. > > Pat. > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Michael, Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly. In "abnormal" times, which was certainly the situation in Ireland at that time, people often have a need to do things which are "normal". It's one of the ways they cope. Pat.

Carlow Sentinal November 14th 1874. Funeral of William Cope Cooper, Esquire, D.L., J.P. The funeral of this lamented gentleman whose death we recorded last week, took place last Thursday. Before twelve o'clock, the hour named for the funeral to leave for the family burial place at Castletown, an immense concourse of people assembled to pay a last tribute of respect to the memory of a gentleman who was universally esteemed and beloved for his many estimable qualities. In the mournful procession, which extended about a mile and a-half in length,were the equipages of a large number of the gentry of Carlow and Queen's County, while the tenantry on the estate and the residents generally of the locality were very largely represented. The chief mourners were Rev. Robert Cooper, Colonel Cooper (brothers) William Agustus Cooper, Edward Cooper, Dr. Cooper, Charles Cooper, Henry Cooper, and Rev. J.W. Durbin, nephews of the deceased.

Carlow Sentinal, November 14th 1874. Death Notice : At her residence, Royal Arms Hotel, Carlow , on November 13th, Miss Ellen Cullen, last of an old and respected family, after a brief illness. The interment will take place at four o'clock on to-morrow (Sunday) at the family burial place, Old Leighlin.

Date on previous email should read ; December 1921. Nationalist. December 1921. NOTICE ---IMPORTANT. I request the public in general to forward me any information which may lead to the discovery and arrest of the robbers who are going loose in Carlow town and county. I guarantee that, if such information is forth-coming there will be a sudden halt to the march of those criminals, and that they will be drastically dealt with by the Republican Authorities. It is inadvisable that sums of money be taken on delivery vans as the robbers seem intent on watching those vehicles for loot. In case of robberies of any description persons should immediately inform the nearest I.R.A. authorities so that they may get on the track of the criminals. Every man should do his upmost to defend his own property when no other help is at hand. Motor cars should never halt at night on any account. (signed) Liam Stack, Commandant, Irish Republican Army.