Nationalist, May 1921. Raids in Carlow. The military arrived at the Carlow Cinema Palace on Thursday night , towards the close of the performance , and searched every member of the male portion of the audience, the women and children being allowed to go home. No arrests were made. On the same night the County Council offices were also visited , and the premises of the Carlow Wood Workers on Friday morning. [ note added 2010. Carlow Wood Workers was Prendergasts in Cox's Lane. ]

Nationalist newspaper cutting, 1921 or 1922 ? (date not recorded) Ballickmoyler Land Committee. The Ballickmoyler Land Committee at their meeting held on the 14th inst., passed the following resolution :-- That we , the members of the Ballickmoyler Land Committee, beg to tender our sincere sympathy to Messers. John and Michael Brennan , Ballickmoyler, on the loss they have sustained by the death of their sister, Mrs. Margaret Doran, Strand, Ballickmoyler.

feedback such as that makes it worthwhile researching this period. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Terry Curran <terrycur16@yahoo.es> wrote: > Hi Michael > Many thanks for adding this story. > > This young Maggie Curran was my Granddad cousin, her father William like > most of my Curran's from that genetation was a Tailor the family had been > living on Burrin Street before they moved to Granby Row in 1911. > > Maggie eldest brother also called William served during WW1, in fact he was > a underage soldier at 16 he was discovered and sent back to Carlow, he ran > away again and changed his name, sent to France where he was wounded, after > the War he joined the RIC under his original name. Hence the RIC and Great > War Commrades sending a wreath. > > > Your other Story of Owen Rice also affect this brance of Curran, as Maggies > Sister Julia married Jim Rice who was related to Owen, Julia and her brother > William became involved in a feud because of his British Army / RIC > involement, this grew to rest of the Curran's and Rice family were all > against William which lead him leaving Carlow and Ireland, as a side note > his son becames a Major General in the British Army. > > all the best Terry > > > > --- El vie, 5/3/10, michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> escribió: > > > De: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Asunto: [IRL-CARLOW] Announcments April 1921. > Para: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Fecha: viernes, 5 de marzo, 2010 19:57 > > > Birth. > Rochfort ---April 2nd, 1921, at Clogrenane, Carlow, to Mr. and Mrs. > Rochfort > --a son. > Death. > Curran ---April 1st 1921, at her residence Granby Row, Carlow, Margaret > (Maggie) Curran, aged 14 years. > Funeral took place to St. Mary's Cemetery on 3rd inst. > Sacred Heart of Jesus have mercy on her ---R.I.P. > Acknowledgment. > Mr William Curran and family desire to return their most sincere thanks to > the Members of the R.I.C. and friends of the Comrades Club, [ of the Great > War ?] who kindly sent wreaths in their recent sad bereavement. > In Memory. > Mulhall (Fourth Anniversary) ---in sad and loving memory of Paddy Mulhall > who died the 14th January 1917, at his residence , Bridewell Lane, Carlow. > Mass will be offered this day at Carlow Cathedral for the repose of his > soul. > In a near and silent graveyard, > Where the trees and branches wave, > Sleeps a fond and loving son, > In his cold and silent grave, > Taken from the world so quickly, > Plucked like a flower in its bloom, > So fair, so young, so gentle, > Yet taken away so soon. > Inserted by his loving parents, sisters and brothers. > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Michael Thanks for the Warren information, very much appreciated. Can you tell me what this '1821 Recognizance' would be collected and used for? I notice it mentions both male and females. Presumably, Ballymurphy in the Parish of Tankardstown in the Barony of Rathvilly in Carlow is 'Ballymurphy' just north of Tullow. Susie > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:25:47 +0000 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1821 Warren etc. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <52e0b9671002280325x455f51b3p9d94d35b970dc9d6@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 1821 Recognizance: > > James Warren, Householder, of Ballymurphy in the Parish of Tankardstown > in > the Barony of Rathvilly in Carlow and that he is worth the Sum of five > pounds sterling above all his just Debts. > John Hackett of Tullow, in the Barony of Rathvilly, Carlow ten pounds > etc. > John Whalley of Tullow etc. five pounds. > Catherine Fenlon resides in Ballymurphy etc. ten pounds. > Alice Redmond resides in Ballymurphy etc. ten pounds. > Thomas Galway of Tullow etc. ten pounds. > Michael Byrne of Tullow etc. ten pounds. > James Hackett of Tullow etc. ten pounds. (all sign ). > Sworn before me this 3rd day of August 1821. > (signed) William Carter.

Hi Michael Many thanks for adding this story.   This young Maggie Curran was my Granddad cousin, her father William like most of my Curran's from that genetation was a Tailor the family had been living on Burrin Street before they moved to Granby Row in 1911.   Maggie eldest brother also called William served during WW1, in fact he was a underage soldier at 16 he was discovered and sent back to Carlow, he ran away again and changed his name, sent to France where he was wounded, after the War he joined the RIC under his original name. Hence the RIC and Great War Commrades sending a wreath.     Your other Story of Owen Rice also affect this brance of Curran, as Maggies Sister Julia married Jim Rice who was related to Owen, Julia and her brother William became involved in a feud because of his British Army / RIC involement, this grew to rest of the Curran's and Rice family were all against William which lead him leaving Carlow and Ireland, as a side note his son becames a Major General in the British Army.   all the best Terry     --- El vie, 5/3/10, michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> escribió: De: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> Asunto: [IRL-CARLOW] Announcments April 1921. Para: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Fecha: viernes, 5 de marzo, 2010 19:57 Birth. Rochfort ---April 2nd, 1921, at Clogrenane, Carlow, to Mr. and Mrs. Rochfort --a son. Death. Curran ---April 1st 1921, at her residence Granby Row, Carlow, Margaret (Maggie) Curran, aged 14 years. Funeral took place to St. Mary's Cemetery on 3rd inst. Sacred Heart of Jesus have mercy on her ---R.I.P. Acknowledgment. Mr William Curran and family desire to return their most sincere thanks to the Members of the R.I.C. and friends of the Comrades Club, [ of the Great War ?] who kindly sent wreaths in their recent sad bereavement. In Memory. Mulhall (Fourth Anniversary) ---in sad and loving memory of Paddy Mulhall who died the 14th January 1917, at his residence , Bridewell Lane, Carlow. Mass will be offered this day at Carlow Cathedral for the repose of his soul. In a near and silent graveyard, Where the trees and branches wave, Sleeps a fond and loving son, In his cold and silent grave, Taken from the world so quickly, Plucked like a flower in its bloom, So fair, so young, so gentle, Yet taken away so soon. Inserted by his loving parents, sisters and brothers. ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Birth. Rochfort ---April 2nd, 1921, at Clogrenane, Carlow, to Mr. and Mrs. Rochfort --a son. Death. Curran ---April 1st 1921, at her residence Granby Row, Carlow, Margaret (Maggie) Curran, aged 14 years. Funeral took place to St. Mary's Cemetery on 3rd inst. Sacred Heart of Jesus have mercy on her ---R.I.P. Acknowledgment. Mr William Curran and family desire to return their most sincere thanks to the Members of the R.I.C. and friends of the Comrades Club, [ of the Great War ?] who kindly sent wreaths in their recent sad bereavement. In Memory. Mulhall (Fourth Anniversary) ---in sad and loving memory of Paddy Mulhall who died the 14th January 1917, at his residence , Bridewell Lane, Carlow. Mass will be offered this day at Carlow Cathedral for the repose of his soul. In a near and silent graveyard, Where the trees and branches wave, Sleeps a fond and loving son, In his cold and silent grave, Taken from the world so quickly, Plucked like a flower in its bloom, So fair, so young, so gentle, Yet taken away so soon. Inserted by his loving parents, sisters and brothers.

Nationalist, July 1921. RESTRICTIONS OFF IN CARLOW. A number of restrictions under Curfew have been removed including use of pedal bicyles, holding of Fairs and Markets.

I am slowly typing up the Rathvilly registers baptisms........... I am only human, I have a life outside of genealogy, I love the family research, hate pressure. And they will go to the years 1842 .......... I have answered all questions asked of me in regards to these parish registers.( Off List) Even done lookups for those folk who were in a hurry and could not wait without any problems. I have written to Anthony off line and explained this, I find if you put pressure on those people willing to type these registers up their fingers become slower. I think I may have to take the stand that you are all asking too much of Mick, and too much of the generous people who take time to type these records up, patience all. After all if you all go off to the parish priest asking for copies of his registers, then when will he get his work done, why not simply hire the microfilm and continue from 1843- onwards that would aid more people. But the offer to look for anyone while I am still transcribing these parish registers that came from the Rathvilly Church via Mick to myself ---------is there -will always and has always been there...............so all you have to do is write to me Maribeth took the initiative and wrote and she received an answer not one that would aid her as the time she needed is later. So thankyou for taking the time to read this And although there is a bit of sting in my email Dont let that deter you from asking me to look , my bite is harmless And this weekend I am free to do just this some lookups. Cheers Cara

Nationalist , 16th July 1921. New Carlow Business. We always welcome any advance made in local industrial activity. Mr. William O'Neill (late of Mr. Mark Purser's Works, Carlow) has opened a motor and general repair works. Mr. O'Neill is a young man who possess a sound and varied knowledge of motor engineering , and also work connected with harvesting machinery generally and oil and petrol engines. Mr. O'Neill is agent for the well known Irish-made Lucania bicycle which, by the way, was patented by Mr. John O'Neill , proprietor of the Lucania Works, who is also a Carlow man. Mr. O'Neill has purchased the extensive premises known as 55 Tullow Street, which is fitted up in a modern manner. .

There may be records for Peace Officers in the National Archives of Ireland or National Archives Kew but I have never seen any..... records should exist as they were organised nationally and dispatched to "disturbed" counties. The only lists I have seen in the PPP for police in Carlow were compiled by various parishes, the men appointed were from the locality, I doubt if such appointments were recorded at a national level. Prior to the 1814 Peel Act areas were patrolled by a barony constabulary, yeomen, watchmen or a locally based Militia etc. appointed or raised by the Parish Beadle. a grand jury or the magistrates. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Turtle Bunbury <turtle@turtlebunbury.com>wrote: > Thanks Mick, > > Does anyone know of a place where all the Peace Officers for any > particular county would be listed ... I'm looking into a family called > Fletcher whose forbear was a policemen said to have been assigned to > Dungarvan, Co. Waterford, at the time of the Napoleonic Wars ... I > wonder who policed the streets before 1814? > > Best for now, > > Turtle > > Turtle Bunbury > www.turtlebunbury.com > Old Fort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland > Mob: + 353 - (0) 87 - 6453 486 > Skype: turtle1847 > > Turtle Bunbury is a best-selling author and travel writer based in > Ireland. He has lately launched www.HistoryinaBook.com<http://www.historyinabook.com/>which offers an > innovative way to transform your family history into a compelling > read. Turtle's seventh book, Vanishing Ireland - Further Chronicles of > a Disappearing World, with photographer James Fennell, was the top- > selling Picture Book in Ireland over Christmas 2009. > > On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:42, michael purcell wrote: > > > Peace Officers appointed under the 1814 Peace Preservation Act , > > their role > > was to administer protection / justice as directed by the local > > Magistrates. They were replaced by the Royal Irish Constabulary > > ( R.I.C.) in > > 1823. > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net > > >wrote: > > > >>> From the following article, does anyone know what a peace officer > >>> was and > >> how appointed. It seems he did not have significant authority. > >> > >> Bill. > >> > >> The Morning Chronicle, Thursday, September 2, 1824. [NLI] > >> > >> > >> ATTEMPT AT SEDUCTION. > >> > >> > >> On Saturday evening, about five o'clock, several persons were > >> attracted > >> to the upper part of Trinity street, by the wild and distracted > >> cries of a > >> female of about 14 years of age, that had just escaped from one of > >> those > >> houses of infamous character in that neighbourhood. She clang > >> particularly > >> to a woman in the crowd, of a decent and motherly appearance, who > >> had a > >> child in her arms, and besought her protection. When she recovered a > >> little > >> from her agitation, on being questioned as to the particulars of the > >> transaction, she told the following story with the most heart- > >> touching > >> candour and simplicity: - She lived in TULLOW, in the county of > >> Carlow; her > >> name was ANTY (Anastasia?) SIMMONS. Some people from that > >> neighbourhood > >> came to Donybrook to sell cheese at the fair; she purchased a small > >> stock, > >> and accompanied them. On Saturday, whilst in the fair, a man of > >> sedate and > >> respectable appearance, in company with a fine looking lady, came > >> up to > >> her, > >> and, after some conversation, told her if she came into town he would > >> immediately give her a good place in his family, as he wanted a > >> servant of > >> her description; that the lady and all the neighbours advised her > >> to come > >> into town, which she accordingly did, with the gentleman, who > >> shortly after > >> leaving the fair, parted from the lady. He brought her to the > >> house 'there > >> beyand', and took her up stairs; that a woman (after some whispering > >> between > >> them) immediately came up, and began to close the shutters, and he > >> thereupon > >> attempted to take liberties with her; that on perceiving his > >> object, she > >> screamed, and ran down stairs; the two women below thought to hold > >> her, but > >> she escaped from them. At the conclusion of her story, she turned > >> round to > >> the crowd in the most pathetic manner and said: "Oh, all I want in > >> the wide > >> world is that some good Christian will bring me back to the people > >> I know > >> in > >> the fair, that I may get home to my own country. I had often heard > >> of > >> Dublin, but I never knew what it was before." Here the poor > >> creature burst > >> into tears. A gentleman who happened to be passing requested she > >> would > >> accompany him to College street Police-office, where the above > >> complaint > >> was > >> put in form on the day-constable's book. There being no Magistrate > >> at that > >> time in attendance, PEACE-OFFICER HALPIN, in the most praiseworthy > >> manner, > >> made her go along with him to the house to which she had been > >> entrapped. > >> The peace-officer being told by a person who had seen the gentleman > >> follow > >> the little girl from the house of ill fame, that he was walking up > >> and down > >> Dame-street, pursued him, and on addressing him, he assumed a most > >> determined tone. He asked the peace-officer for his authority for > >> stopping > >> him; the other evaded the question, as he had no warrant for taking > >> him > >> into > >> custody, and told him, all he wanted (and he would not let him go > >> unless he > >> gave it) was his address. He at length, after much altercation, > >> went into > >> a > >> public house, and wrote a name and address, which he gave to the > >> officer as > >> his. The peace-officer then sent the child to her friends in the > >> fair; she > >> promised him she would come back yesterday (Sunday), but as the > >> fair was > >> broken up on Saturday evening, it is supposed she went home with > >> her poor > >> neighbours. Several persons attended the poor girl to the police- > >> office, > >> and some of their names were taken down, who saw her make her escape. > >> [My caps] > >> > >> ======================================= > >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > >> subscribe > >> to the List. Its FREE! > >> --------------------------------------- > >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without > >> the > >> quotes) in the Subject box. 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Thanks Mick, Does anyone know of a place where all the Peace Officers for any particular county would be listed ... I'm looking into a family called Fletcher whose forbear was a policemen said to have been assigned to Dungarvan, Co. Waterford, at the time of the Napoleonic Wars ... I wonder who policed the streets before 1814? Best for now, Turtle Turtle Bunbury www.turtlebunbury.com Old Fort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland Mob: + 353 - (0) 87 - 6453 486 Skype: turtle1847 Turtle Bunbury is a best-selling author and travel writer based in Ireland. He has lately launched www.HistoryinaBook.com which offers an innovative way to transform your family history into a compelling read. Turtle's seventh book, Vanishing Ireland - Further Chronicles of a Disappearing World, with photographer James Fennell, was the top- selling Picture Book in Ireland over Christmas 2009. On 5 Mar 2010, at 09:42, michael purcell wrote: > Peace Officers appointed under the 1814 Peace Preservation Act , > their role > was to administer protection / justice as directed by the local > Magistrates. They were replaced by the Royal Irish Constabulary > ( R.I.C.) in > 1823. > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net > >wrote: > >>> From the following article, does anyone know what a peace officer >>> was and >> how appointed. It seems he did not have significant authority. >> >> Bill. >> >> The Morning Chronicle, Thursday, September 2, 1824. [NLI] >> >> >> ATTEMPT AT SEDUCTION. >> >> >> On Saturday evening, about five o'clock, several persons were >> attracted >> to the upper part of Trinity street, by the wild and distracted >> cries of a >> female of about 14 years of age, that had just escaped from one of >> those >> houses of infamous character in that neighbourhood. She clang >> particularly >> to a woman in the crowd, of a decent and motherly appearance, who >> had a >> child in her arms, and besought her protection. When she recovered a >> little >> from her agitation, on being questioned as to the particulars of the >> transaction, she told the following story with the most heart- >> touching >> candour and simplicity: - She lived in TULLOW, in the county of >> Carlow; her >> name was ANTY (Anastasia?) SIMMONS. Some people from that >> neighbourhood >> came to Donybrook to sell cheese at the fair; she purchased a small >> stock, >> and accompanied them. On Saturday, whilst in the fair, a man of >> sedate and >> respectable appearance, in company with a fine looking lady, came >> up to >> her, >> and, after some conversation, told her if she came into town he would >> immediately give her a good place in his family, as he wanted a >> servant of >> her description; that the lady and all the neighbours advised her >> to come >> into town, which she accordingly did, with the gentleman, who >> shortly after >> leaving the fair, parted from the lady. He brought her to the >> house 'there >> beyand', and took her up stairs; that a woman (after some whispering >> between >> them) immediately came up, and began to close the shutters, and he >> thereupon >> attempted to take liberties with her; that on perceiving his >> object, she >> screamed, and ran down stairs; the two women below thought to hold >> her, but >> she escaped from them. At the conclusion of her story, she turned >> round to >> the crowd in the most pathetic manner and said: "Oh, all I want in >> the wide >> world is that some good Christian will bring me back to the people >> I know >> in >> the fair, that I may get home to my own country. I had often heard >> of >> Dublin, but I never knew what it was before." Here the poor >> creature burst >> into tears. A gentleman who happened to be passing requested she >> would >> accompany him to College street Police-office, where the above >> complaint >> was >> put in form on the day-constable's book. There being no Magistrate >> at that >> time in attendance, PEACE-OFFICER HALPIN, in the most praiseworthy >> manner, >> made her go along with him to the house to which she had been >> entrapped. >> The peace-officer being told by a person who had seen the gentleman >> follow >> the little girl from the house of ill fame, that he was walking up >> and down >> Dame-street, pursued him, and on addressing him, he assumed a most >> determined tone. He asked the peace-officer for his authority for >> stopping >> him; the other evaded the question, as he had no warrant for taking >> him >> into >> custody, and told him, all he wanted (and he would not let him go >> unless he >> gave it) was his address. He at length, after much altercation, >> went into >> a >> public house, and wrote a name and address, which he gave to the >> officer as >> his. The peace-officer then sent the child to her friends in the >> fair; she >> promised him she would come back yesterday (Sunday), but as the >> fair was >> broken up on Saturday evening, it is supposed she went home with >> her poor >> neighbours. Several persons attended the poor girl to the police- >> office, >> and some of their names were taken down, who saw her make her escape. >> [My caps] >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must >> subscribe >> to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without >> the >> quotes) in the Subject box. 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Curfew Time during the War of Independence. Nationalist , 7th May 1921. WEEK-END TRAGEDY IN CARLOW. YOUNG MAN SHOT DEAD. Immense Funeral On Saturday evening, shortly after nine o'clock (curfew hour), a terrible tragedy was enacted in Staplestown Road, Carlow, in which a young man named Owen Rice lost his life under circumstances that must be considered appalling. The general facts of the case was given at the military inquiry held in lieu of an inquest. The simple outstanding fact is that Owen Rice , whilst on his way home a little after nine o'clock was shot dead [by soldiers] about twenty or thirty yards from his own door. The deceased was about 24 or 25 years old, and as an employee of the Carlow Boot Factory was practically the only support of his mother. On the same evening and under similar circumstance a man named Thomas O'Neill , Pollerton Road, was wounded by a shot in the knee. The people of Carlow , not used to incidents of this nature, were horrified when news of the tragedy became known. On that evening a large number of young men were as usual engaged in a game of pitch and toss in a place known as the Sandpit, in a rather populous district. Naturally when the shooting began the crowds ran in all directions and the wonder is more tragedies did not happen. When Father Killian--called by the military ---arrived at the scene the poor man had passed to his eternal reward. The body was conveyed to the military barracks that night, and on Monday evening the remains were removed to the Cathedral. On Tuesday morning at 8.30 Requiem Mass was celebrated by the Rev. P.Donnelly C.C. All business establishments and factories in the town were shut down and remained closed till 4pm. Included in the thousands that marched in the procession were more than twelve hundred members of the Carlow Sacred Heart Sodality of which Owen was an exemplary and devoted member. The Banners of the Sodality formed an imposing feature of the cortege, and many people in the procession could not conceal their emotion as the coffin was borne past his mother's lonely door. [ note added by Michael Purcell in 2010. On the Monday following this incident a Military Inquiry was held. I will transcribe some of that at a later stage. During the Inquiry many witnesses were called --- here are some extracts. ] On Monday a military court of inquiry was held in the military barracks. The first part of the inquiry was held in camera. The first witness sworn was the officer in charge of the military party that evening. In consequence of a report that there was a collection of armed men in the town, witness stated that he proceeded in a Crossley accompanied by an N.C.O., and four soldiers, and the District Inspector of the R.I.C. They went in the direction of Pollerton Road. He placed his men in position , and while he was searching a house he heard some shots. He immediately ran out and ordered the firing to stop. The soldiers told him they had been fired on from the corner of Accommodation Road and Pollerton Road. He went back to the Crossley and they proceeded to the left, and the civilians ran to the right. There were dozens of civilians, and witness fired two shots from his automatic pistol. He halted the Crossley at the bridge, and went through a ruined house, which he intended to search. He then went back to the road and then heard shots fired from his right, which he judged to come from Staplestown Road. He immediately ran in that direction and shouted "stop firing" . When he proceeded about 120 yards he saw a civilian lying in the pathway on the right of the road. Witness immediately collected his men, and they called on all civilians to halt. Some were searched , but nothing was found on anyone or any where. Several civilians asked permission to go and see the body of the deceased. Witness refused, because if a crowd gathered, more military might fire on them and make matters worse. He then sent for Father Killian to have the body identified and let the family know. No more shot were fired after the man was killed. An R.I.C. Sergeant in evidence stated that ; at about 9.30 he went in charge of a party of police to the railway station, where a fire had been reported. He knew the deceased for many years and he was a quite inoffensive boy. He afterwards searched the body and found a pocket book, and a letter, and two packets of Woodbine cigarettes.There was no money. So far as he knew , Rice did not belong to any political organisation and was always well conducted. Joseph Kavangh , Staplestown Road , deposed that he saw a soldier fire in the direction of Rice at the time he fell. Of course he could not say if that particular shot killed him. The soldier was wearing a cap and he had recognised him in the Barrack Square. Michael Byrne , ex-soldier, who said he had fought in France, Salouika, Macedonia, Palestine, Sudan, etc., deposed that he was a relation of the deceased. He came home on the night in question about 20 minutes to ten, as he had been at the Comrades of the Great War Club. He asked the officer to let him do something for Rice who was lying on the ground. The officer refused.

The Jurors of our Lady the Queen, upon their Oath, present that Martha Grogan alias Martha Holmes of Carlow, Dealer, in the twelfth year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lady Queen Victoria, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, at Carlow --four Gowns, one Petticoat, two pair of Stockings, one Shawl, one Bonnet and one Cloak to the value of ten shillings--of the goods and Chattles of a certain person unknown there being found , feloniously then and there did steal, take and carry away, against the Peace of our said Lady the Queen, her Crown and Dignity. >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~No Bill for Self and Fellows, Martha Grogan alias Martha Holmes is not Guilty of this act. This Case should not have been Sworn by any Magistrate of standing in Carlow. The Peace of our Sovereign Lady Queen Victoria , her Crown and Dignity has not been assaulted by Evil behaviour from said Martha Grogan alias Martha Holmes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(signed) Arthur FitzMaurice.

Thomas Galway of Tullow Saith that in or about the Hour of Seven O'Clock on the night of Monday the 25th day of January A child was left in the public street outside of his house. He believes that it was abondoned by Hester McGill or by some person employed by her or instigated thereto by said Hester McGill, for the purpose of abondoning said child for said child to become a charge on the Parish. He further believes that Hester McGill has since absconded to avoid being arrested and brought to Justice for said offence. (signed) Thomas Galway.

Susie, no idea what that particular "Recognizance" was for , if you asked me that question within 24 hours of it being posted I could have answered , but the document is now filed away under the first surname that appeared on the Document...that name was not "Warren"-, I placed "Warren" at top in order to attract your attention ----I was suprised to see two women listed, in fact I don't think I ever saw women listed before !!... I will attempt to track it. The intention is just to publish extract of names and addresses from such documents --I recall it was a large document with much legal jargon, gave a quick check this morning ..found another relating to Galway of Tullow which I will post later...there are two Ballymurphys in Carlow ..one is near Tullow the other Borris...mick On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Susie Warren <ousie@people.net.au> wrote: > Hi Michael > > Thanks for the Warren information, very much appreciated. > > Can you tell me what this '1821 Recognizance' would be collected and used > for? > I notice it mentions both male and females. > > Presumably, Ballymurphy in the Parish of Tankardstown in the Barony of > Rathvilly in Carlow > is 'Ballymurphy' just north of Tullow. > > Susie > > > Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:25:47 +0000 >> From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1821 Warren etc. >> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <52e0b9671002280325x455f51b3p9d94d35b970dc9d6@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> 1821 Recognizance: >> >> James Warren, Householder, of Ballymurphy in the Parish of Tankardstown >> in >> the Barony of Rathvilly in Carlow and that he is worth the Sum of five >> pounds sterling above all his just Debts. >> John Hackett of Tullow, in the Barony of Rathvilly, Carlow ten pounds >> etc. >> John Whalley of Tullow etc. five pounds. >> Catherine Fenlon resides in Ballymurphy etc. ten pounds. >> Alice Redmond resides in Ballymurphy etc. ten pounds. >> Thomas Galway of Tullow etc. ten pounds. >> Michael Byrne of Tullow etc. ten pounds. >> James Hackett of Tullow etc. ten pounds. (all sign ). >> Sworn before me this 3rd day of August 1821. >> (signed) William Carter. >> > >

Cara, I can only thank you for the work you put in. I will gladly wait until you get the transcriptions finished. I am sure you will finish the task much faster than I could get them done. Thanks for all of your work. Gene Cara_Links wrote: > I am slowly typing up the Rathvilly registers baptisms........... > I am only human, I have a life outside of genealogy, I love the family > research, hate pressure. > > And they will go to the years 1842 .......... > > I have answered all questions asked of me in regards to these parish > registers.( Off List) > > Even done lookups for those folk who were in a hurry and could not wait > without any problems. > I have written to Anthony off line and explained this, I find if you put > pressure on those people willing to type these registers up their fingers > become slower. > > I think I may have to take the stand that you are all asking too much of > Mick, and too much of the generous people who take time to type these > records up, patience all. > > After all if you all go off to the parish priest asking for copies of his > registers, then when will he get his work done, why not simply hire the > microfilm and continue from 1843- onwards that would aid more people. > > But the offer to look for anyone while I am still transcribing these parish > registers that came from the Rathvilly Church via Mick to myself ---------is > there -will always and has always been there...............so all you have > to do is write to me Maribeth took the initiative and wrote and she received > an answer not one that would aid her as the time she needed is later. > > So thankyou for taking the time to read this > And although there is a bit of sting in my email > Dont let that deter you from asking me to look , my bite is harmless > > And this weekend I am free to do just this some lookups. > > Cheers > Cara > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Peace Officers appointed under the 1814 Peace Preservation Act , their role was to administer protection / justice as directed by the local Magistrates. They were replaced by the Royal Irish Constabulary ( R.I.C.) in 1823. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net>wrote: > >From the following article, does anyone know what a peace officer was and > how appointed. It seems he did not have significant authority. > > Bill. > > The Morning Chronicle, Thursday, September 2, 1824. [NLI] > > > ATTEMPT AT SEDUCTION. > > > On Saturday evening, about five o'clock, several persons were attracted > to the upper part of Trinity street, by the wild and distracted cries of a > female of about 14 years of age, that had just escaped from one of those > houses of infamous character in that neighbourhood. She clang particularly > to a woman in the crowd, of a decent and motherly appearance, who had a > child in her arms, and besought her protection. When she recovered a > little > from her agitation, on being questioned as to the particulars of the > transaction, she told the following story with the most heart-touching > candour and simplicity: - She lived in TULLOW, in the county of Carlow; her > name was ANTY (Anastasia?) SIMMONS. Some people from that neighbourhood > came to Donybrook to sell cheese at the fair; she purchased a small stock, > and accompanied them. On Saturday, whilst in the fair, a man of sedate and > respectable appearance, in company with a fine looking lady, came up to > her, > and, after some conversation, told her if she came into town he would > immediately give her a good place in his family, as he wanted a servant of > her description; that the lady and all the neighbours advised her to come > into town, which she accordingly did, with the gentleman, who shortly after > leaving the fair, parted from the lady. He brought her to the house 'there > beyand', and took her up stairs; that a woman (after some whispering > between > them) immediately came up, and began to close the shutters, and he > thereupon > attempted to take liberties with her; that on perceiving his object, she > screamed, and ran down stairs; the two women below thought to hold her, but > she escaped from them. At the conclusion of her story, she turned round to > the crowd in the most pathetic manner and said: "Oh, all I want in the wide > world is that some good Christian will bring me back to the people I know > in > the fair, that I may get home to my own country. I had often heard of > Dublin, but I never knew what it was before." Here the poor creature burst > into tears. A gentleman who happened to be passing requested she would > accompany him to College street Police-office, where the above complaint > was > put in form on the day-constable's book. There being no Magistrate at that > time in attendance, PEACE-OFFICER HALPIN, in the most praiseworthy manner, > made her go along with him to the house to which she had been entrapped. > The peace-officer being told by a person who had seen the gentleman follow > the little girl from the house of ill fame, that he was walking up and down > Dame-street, pursued him, and on addressing him, he assumed a most > determined tone. He asked the peace-officer for his authority for stopping > him; the other evaded the question, as he had no warrant for taking him > into > custody, and told him, all he wanted (and he would not let him go unless he > gave it) was his address. He at length, after much altercation, went into > a > public house, and wrote a name and address, which he gave to the officer as > his. The peace-officer then sent the child to her friends in the fair; she > promised him she would come back yesterday (Sunday), but as the fair was > broken up on Saturday evening, it is supposed she went home with her poor > neighbours. Several persons attended the poor girl to the police-office, > and some of their names were taken down, who saw her make her escape. > [My caps] > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>From the following article, does anyone know what a peace officer was and how appointed. It seems he did not have significant authority. Bill. The Morning Chronicle, Thursday, September 2, 1824. [NLI] ATTEMPT AT SEDUCTION. On Saturday evening, about five o'clock, several persons were attracted to the upper part of Trinity street, by the wild and distracted cries of a female of about 14 years of age, that had just escaped from one of those houses of infamous character in that neighbourhood. She clang particularly to a woman in the crowd, of a decent and motherly appearance, who had a child in her arms, and besought her protection. When she recovered a little from her agitation, on being questioned as to the particulars of the transaction, she told the following story with the most heart-touching candour and simplicity: - She lived in TULLOW, in the county of Carlow; her name was ANTY (Anastasia?) SIMMONS. Some people from that neighbourhood came to Donybrook to sell cheese at the fair; she purchased a small stock, and accompanied them. On Saturday, whilst in the fair, a man of sedate and respectable appearance, in company with a fine looking lady, came up to her, and, after some conversation, told her if she came into town he would immediately give her a good place in his family, as he wanted a servant of her description; that the lady and all the neighbours advised her to come into town, which she accordingly did, with the gentleman, who shortly after leaving the fair, parted from the lady. He brought her to the house 'there beyand', and took her up stairs; that a woman (after some whispering between them) immediately came up, and began to close the shutters, and he thereupon attempted to take liberties with her; that on perceiving his object, she screamed, and ran down stairs; the two women below thought to hold her, but she escaped from them. At the conclusion of her story, she turned round to the crowd in the most pathetic manner and said: "Oh, all I want in the wide world is that some good Christian will bring me back to the people I know in the fair, that I may get home to my own country. I had often heard of Dublin, but I never knew what it was before." Here the poor creature burst into tears. A gentleman who happened to be passing requested she would accompany him to College street Police-office, where the above complaint was put in form on the day-constable's book. There being no Magistrate at that time in attendance, PEACE-OFFICER HALPIN, in the most praiseworthy manner, made her go along with him to the house to which she had been entrapped. The peace-officer being told by a person who had seen the gentleman follow the little girl from the house of ill fame, that he was walking up and down Dame-street, pursued him, and on addressing him, he assumed a most determined tone. He asked the peace-officer for his authority for stopping him; the other evaded the question, as he had no warrant for taking him into custody, and told him, all he wanted (and he would not let him go unless he gave it) was his address. He at length, after much altercation, went into a public house, and wrote a name and address, which he gave to the officer as his. The peace-officer then sent the child to her friends in the fair; she promised him she would come back yesterday (Sunday), but as the fair was broken up on Saturday evening, it is supposed she went home with her poor neighbours. Several persons attended the poor girl to the police-office, and some of their names were taken down, who saw her make her escape. [My caps]

I have another lady typing up the Rathvilly Marriage Registers for much the same period, in order to avoid "pressure" she wishes up remain anonymous until her task is complete.....mick On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Cara_Links <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> wrote: > I am slowly typing up the Rathvilly registers baptisms........... > I am only human, I have a life outside of genealogy, I love the family > research, hate pressure. > > And they will go to the years 1842 .......... > > I have answered all questions asked of me in regards to these parish > registers.( Off List) > > Even done lookups for those folk who were in a hurry and could not wait > without any problems. > I have written to Anthony off line and explained this, I find if you put > pressure on those people willing to type these registers up their fingers > become slower. > > I think I may have to take the stand that you are all asking too much of > Mick, and too much of the generous people who take time to type these > records up, patience all. > > After all if you all go off to the parish priest asking for copies of his > registers, then when will he get his work done, why not simply hire the > microfilm and continue from 1843- onwards that would aid more people. > > But the offer to look for anyone while I am still transcribing these parish > registers that came from the Rathvilly Church via Mick to myself > ---------is > there -will always and has always been there...............so all you have > to do is write to me Maribeth took the initiative and wrote and she > received > an answer not one that would aid her as the time she needed is later. > > So thankyou for taking the time to read this > And although there is a bit of sting in my email > Dont let that deter you from asking me to look , my bite is harmless > > And this weekend I am free to do just this some lookups. > > Cheers > Cara > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Claire - That would be great if someone has 1 tucked away in  a box that they would be willing to sell. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire Sturley" <claire_sturley@yahoo.co.uk> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2010 5:22:57 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] They First Arose I believe I have a copy of They First Arose. First published in 1967, Billy Nolan had it republished in 1998.  This was done in conjunction with the publishing of a second book by his father William (Bill) Nolan. Due to his untimely death(1971), this work The Man of Boolavogue remained unpublished.  Both books were launched in William`s  former pub in Ballon in 1998,  by Leighlinbridge and Carloviana man, Martin Nevin.  As with most writers I`m sure there will  be a box of these books tucked away in Nolans in Ballon.  I will call Billy tomorrow and let you know.  Claire  --- On Mon, 1/3/10, maryfr14@comcast.net <maryfr14@comcast.net> wrote:               ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message        ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message