New York Emigrant Savings Bank PETER JOYCE Record Type: Test Books Transaction: 6th Sept 1864 Birth Abt: 1837 Birth Country: Ireland Place: Carlow State: New York _________________________________________________________________ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Michael, How I wish I knew more about the sited "respected Curran family". My mother's father was Edward Curran, his father was Edward Curran and his father was Michael Curran, Ballabannon, Co Carlow. And, Michael was married to a Honoria Cummins Curran.....Clonmelsh parish. Frances Devine Heidel

New South Wales Australia Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists 1828-1896 ANNE HENNESSY Birth Abt: 1834 Age: 21 Arrival: 20th March 1855 Vessel Name: Lord Hungerford Origin: Bagenalstown Co Carlow Occupation: Housemaid Parents Names: Edward & Mary. Living at Bagenalstown. New York Emigrant Savings Bank EDWARD HENNESSY Record Type: Test Books Transaction Date: 4th March 1865 Birth Abt: 1829 Birth Country: Ireland Place: Carlow State: New York Married Ellen Bryan Children Edward, Eliza, Michael, David, Wife and children in Ireland. _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Thanks very much for adding this one Michael, My Great Great Grandmother Fanny Curran and Great Great Aunt Frances. I knew that both mother and daughter died in the same year but not the same month more so within days of each other, now wondering did the death of the daughter bring on the death on the mother.   Franny born Frances Kenna daugther of James Kenna married William Curran on the 2nd Sept 1869 at Tullow. Frances came from a Tailoring family thus married into another (The Curran's). With William they had 7 children   Patrick died young at 10, James married Margaret Treacy lived on Little Barrack St,  Margaret who married William James Graigecullen, William who married Margaret Lynch lived on Granby row, Michael who married Biddy lived also on Little Barrack St , Julia, and Frances (mention above)   Frances Husband William died in the early months of 1900, their son William was mentioned in your post of last week of the Curran family of Granby Row yet another furneral.   Many thanks again   --- El mar, 9/3/10, michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> escribió: De: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> Asunto: [IRL-CARLOW] Curran Para: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Fecha: martes, 9 de marzo, 2010 14:38 Nationalist, 27th March 1920. Curran --On 20th March, 1920, at her residence , Burrin Street, Carlow, Frances (Fanny) , youngest daughter of the late William Curran, aged 32 years. Nationalist, 10th April 1920. Curran --Wednesday, 24th March, 1920, Frances , the dearly beloved wife of the late William Curran at an advanced age. Interred in St. Mary's Cemetery. ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

New York Emigrant Savings Bank Peter Dobbin Record Type: Test Books Transaction Date: 18th Oct 1866 Birth Abt: 1840 Birth Country: Ireland Place: Co Carlow State: New York Wife: Mary Kinsella Occupation: Waiter - Hotel (Going by the above record, I found the following and thought I would post my findings). New York Passenger List Peter Dobbin 25 Lab Mary Dobbin 25 Wife Arriving New York 11th June 1866 Ship: Malta. 1870 New York Census Peter Dobbin 30 Mary 26 James 3 son Margaret 1 Daug 1880 New York Census Manhattan New York Peter Dobbin 39 Head of Household, Waiter Household members Mary 36 Wife James 12 Son Margaret 11 Daug Peter 9 Son John 7 Son Mary 5 Daug Jane 3 Daug 1900 New York Census Manhattan New York Peter Dobbin 60 birth date Sept 1839 Immigration Yr: 1866 Head of house Married 34 yrs Mary 55 wife Margaret 26 Peter 24 John 22 Mary 20 Jane 18 Rose 16 Found a record of marriage for Peter & Mary. Peter Dobbyn Marriage 1866 Dublin North Film Num: 101250 Vol: 2 Page: 699 Mary Kinsella same as above. Feel free to post this on the Carlow Site Michael. Treacy _________________________________________________________________ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Nationalist 11th September, 1920 Meeting of Deputy-Lieutenants and Magistrates in Carlow. Control of Internal Government. A meeting of Deputy Lieutenants and magistrates of the County Carlow was held on Friday evening, Lord Rathdonnell presiding, for the purpose of urging on the Government the necessity of an immediate settlement of the Irish question. The following resolution, proposed by Mr. Henry Bruen, and seconded by Mr. D.R. Pack-Beresford, and warmly supported by Right Hon. W. Kavanagh, D.L., was unanimously passed:---------- We, the Deputy Lieutenants and Magistrates of County Carlow, realising that the British Government has failed to secure the observance of law in Ireland, and has lost the confidence of all classes, urge upon His Majesty's Government the desirability of immediately introducing a Bill , the provisions of which should , while preserving our country within the Empire, give the Irish people control of the internal Government of the country including taxation.

Nationalist. Kavanagh--July 20th, 1920, at Sheen , after a long illness, Mrs Matthew Kavanagh, late of Bailalaw, Myshall, Co. Carlow. Deeply regretted ---R.I.P. Office and Requiem Mass on Thursday, August 5th at 11oc. (American Papers please copy). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Williams----In loving memory of L.--Cpl. W.T. Williams, No. 5804, 2nd Batt-Leinster Rgt. Killed in action 14th June 1918, and buried at Cinque Rue British Cemetery, Armentieres, only son of William and Mary Williams, of Birkenhead, and grandson of the late David and Mary Mulhall, Bridewell Lane, Carlow. Dry your eyes my weeping Mother, See the crown your son has won. Try to say amidst your sorrow, God knows best, His will be done. Fondly remembered by Dad, Mam, and sisters and brothers-in-law at home in Birkenhead. ----R.I.P.

Nationalist, August 1920. Ballickmoyler (O'Hanrahan) Sinn Fein Club. We the Ballickmoyler O'Hanrahan Sinn Fein Club call on all traders, business men and others to withdraw all trading with Belfast firms and to withdraw all monies invested in Belfast and Northern Banks until such time as all the workmen and workwomen in Belfast and Northern Ireland are reinstated.

Nationalist, 27th March 1920. Curran --On 20th March, 1920, at her residence , Burrin Street, Carlow, Frances (Fanny) , youngest daughter of the late William Curran, aged 32 years. Nationalist, 10th April 1920. Curran --Wednesday, 24th March, 1920, Frances , the dearly beloved wife of the late William Curran at an advanced age. Interred in St. Mary's Cemetery.

Nationalist, 17th April 1921. Carlow Young Men Sentenced. We are semi-officially informed that the twelve young men recently arrested in Carlow in connection with the blocking of roads and subsequently court-martialled have each been sentenced to 12 months imprisonment. Their names are Martin Byrne, John Williams, Martin Condren, John Cullen, John Fitzgerald, James Mooney, Michael Leonard, Joseph Kenny, Laurence Shaw, James Foley, Thomas Sheehan, and P.Doolan. On Wednesday night the following houses in Carlow were visited and searched by Crown forces accompanied by two women searchers : Mr. John Murphy's, Dublin Road ; the Old College known as the "Wash House" in Brown Street; Mr.J. Reddy's, Athy Street; Mr. John Ryan's, Charlotte Street. The officers in charge were courteous. The Partnership that has hitherto existed between Thomas Richards and William Muhall, Seed Merchants, No. 1 Tullow Street, Carlow. has been voluntarily dissolved and the said business will in future be carried on by William Mulhall. Thomas Richards will be responsible for all debts of the firm to date.

I also have read many wills where the Irish clergyman has left his Vestments and monies and books to the church, would this happen now? and please understand it was not a lot of money although 500 pounds would have been a lot in 1858 I guess Cara

22nd January 1822. Recognizance. James Nicholson and John Leonard going Bond for Hamilton Gardiner, all Householders in the town of Carlow proceeding in case against Mary Regan , Bond taken and acknowledged by Edward Box.

Nationalist, June, 1921. Two girls taken from their home at Coolbawn, Castlecomer district by masked and armed men , who a Dublin Castle report states, cut their hair because it was alleged that they had been talking to the police. They were told that if there were any reprisals they would be shot. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rainfall. To the Editor "The Nationalist and Leinster Times" Coopershill, Carlow, 27th June 1921. Sir---During the first 25 days of June the amount of rain and dew collected here was less than one-sixth of an inch. Yours faithfully, C.H. Cooper. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To the Curragh. Dr. E. Dundon , Medical Officer, Borris, who has been for some time confined in Carlow Military Barracks, has been removed to the Curragh Internment Camp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prominent Priest Arrested. Late on Saturday night a large part of military visited Tinryland and arrested Re. Fr. Campion, C.C. His apartments were thoroughly searched. The reverend gentleman was the conveyed under escort to Carlow Military Barracks. Father Campion who was not informed of the charge he was arrested under, has taken a deep interest in the economic side of Irish national affairs, and is very popular with all classes.

On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Cara_Links wrote: > I also have read many wills where the Irish clergyman has left his > Vestments > and monies and books to the church, would this happen now? and please > understand it was not a lot of money although 500 pounds would > have been a > lot in 1858 I guess > > > What's that about....was that mentioned in the book about the > priests and where their belongings go after their death? I never > wondered about priests' wills....never gave it a thought, I guess.

Nationalist, May 1921. New Military Order. Early in the week a notice was posted in the Carlow Post Office window to the effect that on and after May 28th, (Thursday) push / pedal bicycles are not to be used in the County Carlow between the hours of 9 p.m. and 5 a.m. Train Held Up. On Wednesday evening last the military held up the 8.15 train at Carlow and searched all passengers.

Nationalist, 2nd April 1921. Curfew in Carlow. Notices were posted throughout the town by the military, issued by Colonel Commandant Skinner, D.S.O., to the effect that by Regulation No. 13 of the Restoration of Order in Ireland Regulation, do hereby order and require every person within the townland of Carlow to remain within doors between the hours of nine o'clock, p.m. and five o'clock, a.m., unless provided with a permit in writing from the Competent Military Authority. The order came into force at 9oc p.m. on Thursday, 24th March 1921. Since Curfew was enforced the streets are deserted by nine o'clock.

Nationalist, January 1921. Result of arbitration dealing with the dispute concerning the "Quaker's Farm" Killeshin. I find that Mr. John Whelan purchased the Quaker's farm bona fide in the open market nearly 20 years ago, and that he had an absolute right to sell same. I Feb. 1919 Mr. Whelan advertised the "Quaker's farm" for sale , Mr. John McDonald offered £7,000 and the lands were sold to him. I find that Mr. Mc Donald is in strict justice entitled to the possession , use and occopation of said lands. Mr. McDonald might have from patriotic or philantropic motives abstained from purchasing the farm, and the people of Killeshin might have acquired these lands in that case. (signed) Patrick J.Meehan.

I was in a religious order but we weren't allowed to own ANYTHING because of our vow of poverty. We never said "my" shoes etc because they were only "to my use". Don't know if it's still the same, guess it would be. On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:35 PM, GB wrote: > Also, Diocesan priests are often called Secular priests as they do not > belong to a religious order (sanctioned by the Pope). > > Because they do not take vows of poverty, they may own assets as > any other > citizen. Additional monies they may possess (over and above meager > Church > salaries) quite often come from their families or from their personal > investments. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Fast and Abstinence !. > > >> 1.Diocesan priests - Diocesan priests commit their lives to >> serving the >> people of a diocese, which is a church administrative region, and >> typically >> work in parishes, schools, or other Catholic institutions as >> assigned by >> the >> bishop of their diocese. Diocesan priests take a vow of celibacy and >> obedience. >> >> 2.Religious priests - Religious priests belong to a religious >> order such >> as >> the Dominicans, Franciscans, and Jesuits. Religious priests get their >> direction from their superiors within their religious order. >> Religious >> orders typically specialize in teaching or performing missionary >> work. In >> addition to taking a vow of celibacy and obedience, religious >> priests take >> a >> vow of poverty. >> >> Cheers Cara >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must >> subscribe to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2729 - Release Date: > 03/07/10 > 19:34:00 > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL- > CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message frances heidel 皮 fradel@comcast.net Consultant - Arbonne International Wellnessnskincare.myarbonne.com 610-631-2585

Also, Diocesan priests are often called Secular priests as they do not belong to a religious order (sanctioned by the Pope). Because they do not take vows of poverty, they may own assets as any other citizen. Additional monies they may possess (over and above meager Church salaries) quite often come from their families or from their personal investments. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Fast and Abstinence !. > 1.Diocesan priests - Diocesan priests commit their lives to serving the > people of a diocese, which is a church administrative region, and > typically > work in parishes, schools, or other Catholic institutions as assigned by > the > bishop of their diocese. Diocesan priests take a vow of celibacy and > obedience. > > 2.Religious priests - Religious priests belong to a religious order such > as > the Dominicans, Franciscans, and Jesuits. Religious priests get their > direction from their superiors within their religious order. Religious > orders typically specialize in teaching or performing missionary work. In > addition to taking a vow of celibacy and obedience, religious priests take > a > vow of poverty. > > Cheers Cara > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2729 - Release Date: 03/07/10 19:34:00

8th day of May 1818. William Shepard Copnagh, Carlow swears before William Carter that Robert Shepard, late of Tobinstown, Carlow , has left for America and left William with the Lands and Dwelling House at Tobinstown and Knocknigan and movable property consisting of a quantity of Potatoes, Pigs, Timber and other articles. William requests of Magistrate William Carter that he provide protection by the Barony Constables to assist him as he believes that "his life is in danger as John Moore of Paulville, Gentleman, well armed and in a most menacing and threatening manner, has removed upwards of twenty barrels of Potatoes, a door and door case torn out of the Dwelling House and a Gate taken off the Hinges" and is claiming the remainder.