Thanks Mick Then it is probably just John Boles of Cavan on assignment in Carlow. That's right, none of my Bowles/Boles would have still been in Carlow by 1919. Still this little note will go well with my Bowles in Cavan files. Just glad this Boles wasn't a Black & Tan. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 20 March 2010 09:35 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. June 1919 is too early to have been a R.I.C. B-Special Constable ( est. Sept. 1920) or a member of the Auxiliaries reinforcement group ( Sept. 1919) or a Black and Tan recruit (Jan. 1920), possibly volunteer but I don't think that Boles show up in Carlow records for the period ?.... On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> wrote: > This reference states that Constable John Boles was a 'special' constable > of > the RIC. > > I would welcome opinions whether that means he was a temporary member, > probably a local, who was signed up to serve with the RIC but possibly was > not a full time member of the RIC? I have looked for Boles in the RIC > before and the only John I could find was in a northern county. Still he > could have been assigned to Carlow. The word 'special' makes me think it > wouldn't be that full time constable though. > > Anyone's thoughts? > > Thanks for the interesting reference Mick. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell > Sent: 19 March 2010 14:56 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. > > Extract from report in Carlow Sentinel, June 31st 1919. > Dangerous Speech in Carlow. > Southern Police Court before Mr. Swifte, Magistrate, K.C. > Frank Gallagher, who was arrested in St. Stephen's Green in Dublin, was > charged under the Criminal Law, Ireland Act of 1887. > On May 25th last Mr Frank Gallagher delivered a speech to a crowd of > between > 300 and 400 people assembled at Myshall, Co. Carlow. > Constable John Boles, Myshall, County Carlow, a special constable of the > Royal Irish Constabulary, confirmed his dispositions in which he stated > that > in company with Constable Henry Skehin he attended a public meeting and Mr > Frank D. Gallagher, of Dublin (whom he identified) addressed the meeting. > In > the course of his speech he made and published seditious and inflammatory > observations. Amongst other things he incited his hearers in the following > words, or words to the like effect :- > " I wish to impress on you that you owe no allegiance to any alien > Government ---only to your own---the Irish Republic. England has no more > right to govern you than China. You belong to Dail Eireann, and whatever it > asks you to do you must do it from a Christian as well as a moral command. > If we have another rising be true to Eamon de Valera, Plunkett, Thomas > McDonagh, and Pearse. Do not let them and the work they did in 1916 be in > vain". > Mr Swifte asked Gallagher if he had any question to ask ?. > Mr Gallagher stood up and asked the magistrate whether he was appointed > under the Act passed under the Constitution of the Irish Republic ?. > Swifte took no notice of the question. Swifte then sentenced the accused to > three month's imprisonment , without hard labour, and ordered him to give > bail in £20 to be of good behaviour for 12 months or serve a further term > of > one month's imprisonment. > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
June 1919 is too early to have been a R.I.C. B-Special Constable ( est. Sept. 1920) or a member of the Auxiliaries reinforcement group ( Sept. 1919) or a Black and Tan recruit (Jan. 1920), possibly volunteer but I don't think that Boles show up in Carlow records for the period ?.... On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> wrote: > This reference states that Constable John Boles was a 'special' constable > of > the RIC. > > I would welcome opinions whether that means he was a temporary member, > probably a local, who was signed up to serve with the RIC but possibly was > not a full time member of the RIC? I have looked for Boles in the RIC > before and the only John I could find was in a northern county. Still he > could have been assigned to Carlow. The word 'special' makes me think it > wouldn't be that full time constable though. > > Anyone's thoughts? > > Thanks for the interesting reference Mick. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell > Sent: 19 March 2010 14:56 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. > > Extract from report in Carlow Sentinel, June 31st 1919. > Dangerous Speech in Carlow. > Southern Police Court before Mr. Swifte, Magistrate, K.C. > Frank Gallagher, who was arrested in St. Stephen's Green in Dublin, was > charged under the Criminal Law, Ireland Act of 1887. > On May 25th last Mr Frank Gallagher delivered a speech to a crowd of > between > 300 and 400 people assembled at Myshall, Co. Carlow. > Constable John Boles, Myshall, County Carlow, a special constable of the > Royal Irish Constabulary, confirmed his dispositions in which he stated > that > in company with Constable Henry Skehin he attended a public meeting and Mr > Frank D. Gallagher, of Dublin (whom he identified) addressed the meeting. > In > the course of his speech he made and published seditious and inflammatory > observations. Amongst other things he incited his hearers in the following > words, or words to the like effect :- > " I wish to impress on you that you owe no allegiance to any alien > Government ---only to your own---the Irish Republic. England has no more > right to govern you than China. You belong to Dail Eireann, and whatever it > asks you to do you must do it from a Christian as well as a moral command. > If we have another rising be true to Eamon de Valera, Plunkett, Thomas > McDonagh, and Pearse. Do not let them and the work they did in 1916 be in > vain". > Mr Swifte asked Gallagher if he had any question to ask ?. > Mr Gallagher stood up and asked the magistrate whether he was appointed > under the Act passed under the Constitution of the Irish Republic ?. > Swifte took no notice of the question. Swifte then sentenced the accused to > three month's imprisonment , without hard labour, and ordered him to give > bail in £20 to be of good behaviour for 12 months or serve a further term > of > one month's imprisonment. > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I thought about that too but I don't think it's likely. Wouldn't publishing his status in the newspaper be like signing his death warrant? Especially in 1919. There were no Boles actually living in that area so his cover wouldn't be very good. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of renolan38@aol.com Sent: 21 March 2010 09:20 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. Has the possibility of Mr. Boles being an undercover agent of some sort been considered? And therefore becoming " Special " Here in the United States some FBI Agents have a designation/rank as Special Agent. -----Original Message----- From: Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2010 9:08 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. Thanks Mick Then it is probably just John Boles of Cavan on assignment in Carlow. That's right, none of my Bowles/Boles would have still been in Carlow by 1919. Still this little note will go well with my Bowles in Cavan files. Just glad this Boles wasn't a Black & Tan. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 20 March 2010 09:35 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. June 1919 is too early to have been a R.I.C. B-Special Constable ( est. Sept. 1920) or a member of the Auxiliaries reinforcement group ( Sept. 1919) or a Black and Tan recruit (Jan. 1920), possibly volunteer but I don't think that Boles show up in Carlow records for the period ?.... On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mts.net> wrote: > This reference states that Constable John Boles was a 'special' constable > of > the RIC. > > I would welcome opinions whether that means he was a temporary member, > probably a local, who was signed up to serve with the RIC but possibly was > not a full time member of the RIC? I have looked for Boles in the RIC > before and the only John I could find was in a northern county. Still he > could have been assigned to Carlow. The word 'special' makes me think it > wouldn't be that full time constable though. > > Anyone's thoughts? > > Thanks for the interesting reference Mick. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell > Sent: 19 March 2010 14:56 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. > > Extract from report in Carlow Sentinel, June 31st 1919. > Dangerous Speech in Carlow. > Southern Police Court before Mr. Swifte, Magistrate, K.C. > Frank Gallagher, who was arrested in St. Stephen's Green in Dublin, was > charged under the Criminal Law, Ireland Act of 1887. > On May 25th last Mr Frank Gallagher delivered a speech to a crowd of > between > 300 and 400 people assembled at Myshall, Co. Carlow. > Constable John Boles, Myshall, County Carlow, a special constable of the > Royal Irish Constabulary, confirmed his dispositions in which he stated > that > in company with Constable Henry Skehin he attended a public meeting and Mr > Frank D. Gallagher, of Dublin (whom he identified) addressed the meeting. > In > the course of his speech he made and published seditious and inflammatory > observations. Amongst other things he incited his hearers in the following > words, or words to the like effect :- > " I wish to impress on you that you owe no allegiance to any alien > Government ---only to your own---the Irish Republic. England has no more > right to govern you than China. You belong to Dail Eireann, and whatever it > asks you to do you must do it from a Christian as well as a moral command. > If we have another rising be true to Eamon de Valera, Plunkett, Thomas > McDonagh, and Pearse. Do not let them and the work they did in 1916 be in > vain". > Mr Swifte asked Gallagher if he had any question to ask ?. > Mr Gallagher stood up and asked the magistrate whether he was appointed > under the Act passed under the Constitution of the Irish Republic ?. > Swifte took no notice of the question. Swifte then sentenced the accused to > three month's imprisonment , without hard labour, and ordered him to give > bail in 20 to be of good behaviour for 12 months or serve a further term > of > one month's imprisonment. > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. 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Michelle This is the link to the Dublin IGP Website: http://www.igp-web.com/dublin/index.htm Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:36:11 -0400 > From: "Michelle Wilson" <micpaint.wilson@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Does Dublin have a Site? > Can anyone please tell me if Dublin has a website with rootsweb like this > one for Carlow? If so, could you please give me the "subscribe" address? > Thank You > Michelle >
Extract from report in Carlow Sentinel, June 31st 1919. Dangerous Speech in Carlow. Southern Police Court before Mr. Swifte, Magistrate, K.C. Frank Gallagher, who was arrested in St. Stephen's Green in Dublin, was charged under the Criminal Law, Ireland Act of 1887. On May 25th last Mr Frank Gallagher delivered a speech to a crowd of between 300 and 400 people assembled at Myshall, Co. Carlow. Constable John Boles, Myshall, County Carlow, a special constable of the Royal Irish Constabulary, confirmed his dispositions in which he stated that in company with Constable Henry Skehin he attended a public meeting and Mr Frank D. Gallagher, of Dublin (whom he identified) addressed the meeting. In the course of his speech he made and published seditious and inflammatory observations. Amongst other things he incited his hearers in the following words, or words to the like effect :- " I wish to impress on you that you owe no allegiance to any alien Government ---only to your own---the Irish Republic. England has no more right to govern you than China. You belong to Dail Eireann, and whatever it asks you to do you must do it from a Christian as well as a moral command. If we have another rising be true to Eamon de Valera, Plunkett, Thomas McDonagh, and Pearse. Do not let them and the work they did in 1916 be in vain". Mr Swifte asked Gallagher if he had any question to ask ?. Mr Gallagher stood up and asked the magistrate whether he was appointed under the Act passed under the Constitution of the Irish Republic ?. Swifte took no notice of the question. Swifte then sentenced the accused to three month's imprisonment , without hard labour, and ordered him to give bail in £20 to be of good behaviour for 12 months or serve a further term of one month's imprisonment.
Thank you Michael Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Brennan" <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 6:45 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Dublin IGP Website > Michelle > > This is the link to the Dublin IGP Website: > http://www.igp-web.com/dublin/index.htm > > Michael Brennan > > Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:36:11 -0400 >> From: "Michelle Wilson" <micpaint.wilson@gmail.com> >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Does Dublin have a Site? >> Can anyone please tell me if Dublin has a website with rootsweb like this >> one for Carlow? If so, could you please give me the "subscribe" address? >> Thank You >> Michelle >> > > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Carlow Sentinel, March 8th. 1919. CARLOW COMRADES OF THE GREAT WAR CLUB. At a meeting held in the Deighton Hall Burrin -street, Colonel Browne-Clayton presided. On the proposition of Mr J. Connolly, seconded by Mr P. Begley, Colonel Browne-Clayton was unanimously selected as a candidate to represent the Comrades at the coming elections. Mr McCarthy, Clerk of the Crown and Peace, delivered a very instructive address regarding the voting under proportional representation, and conducted a model election to enlighten those present. Great credit is due to the "Comrades" whose efforts extinguished the would-be disastrous fire in the Labour Exchange on Tuesday night. Women's National Health Association. Meetings were held in the Town Hall in February and March. Present---Miss Alexander, in the chair ; Mrs Paul Brown, Mrs Kane Smith, Mrs J. Mc Donnell, Nurse Mrs Valentine, and Miss Gough. Bills were paid for one pound, two shillings and three pence for two months for clothing and nourishment for the sick poor.
This reference states that Constable John Boles was a 'special' constable of the RIC. I would welcome opinions whether that means he was a temporary member, probably a local, who was signed up to serve with the RIC but possibly was not a full time member of the RIC? I have looked for Boles in the RIC before and the only John I could find was in a northern county. Still he could have been assigned to Carlow. The word 'special' makes me think it wouldn't be that full time constable though. Anyone's thoughts? Thanks for the interesting reference Mick. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 19 March 2010 14:56 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Boles in Myshall 1919. Extract from report in Carlow Sentinel, June 31st 1919. Dangerous Speech in Carlow. Southern Police Court before Mr. Swifte, Magistrate, K.C. Frank Gallagher, who was arrested in St. Stephen's Green in Dublin, was charged under the Criminal Law, Ireland Act of 1887. On May 25th last Mr Frank Gallagher delivered a speech to a crowd of between 300 and 400 people assembled at Myshall, Co. Carlow. Constable John Boles, Myshall, County Carlow, a special constable of the Royal Irish Constabulary, confirmed his dispositions in which he stated that in company with Constable Henry Skehin he attended a public meeting and Mr Frank D. Gallagher, of Dublin (whom he identified) addressed the meeting. In the course of his speech he made and published seditious and inflammatory observations. Amongst other things he incited his hearers in the following words, or words to the like effect :- " I wish to impress on you that you owe no allegiance to any alien Government ---only to your own---the Irish Republic. England has no more right to govern you than China. You belong to Dail Eireann, and whatever it asks you to do you must do it from a Christian as well as a moral command. If we have another rising be true to Eamon de Valera, Plunkett, Thomas McDonagh, and Pearse. Do not let them and the work they did in 1916 be in vain". Mr Swifte asked Gallagher if he had any question to ask ?. Mr Gallagher stood up and asked the magistrate whether he was appointed under the Act passed under the Constitution of the Irish Republic ?. Swifte took no notice of the question. Swifte then sentenced the accused to three month's imprisonment , without hard labour, and ordered him to give bail in £20 to be of good behaviour for 12 months or serve a further term of one month's imprisonment.
Carlow Sentinel, March 8th 1919. SINN FEIN AND HUNTING. Today's "Irish Times" says :--- The first real account of Sinn Fein policy is announced today. Doubtless, it will give much satisfaction to the half-million Irishmen and Irishwomen who supported Mr de Valera's party at the General Elections. The Stewards of the Irish National Hunt Club have decided to cancel for the present year, the famous race-meeting at Punchestown and the promoters of the Ward Union have cancelled the Easter Monthly meeting at Fairyhouse. These decisions have not been taken in any spirit of spite or revenge, but only out of sheer necessity. Hitherto , with hardly an exception, Irishmen of all parties have agreed to keep politics out of Sport. In the worst crisis of our national history extreme Nationalists and crusted Tory have ridden neck-to-neck in the hunting field. Each was for the other a good fellow and a loyal sportsman, although on the next day the Tory might be dining with the Lord Lieutenant and the Nationalist might be going to jail.
Hi Michelle, IRL-DUBLIN-CITY@rootsweb.com should do it ... Cheerio for now, Turtle Turtle Bunbury www.turtlebunbury.com Old Fort, Tobinstown, Tullow, Co. Carlow, Ireland Mob: + 353 - (0) 87 - 6453 486 Skype: turtle1847 Turtle Bunbury is a best-selling author and travel writer based in Ireland. He has lately launched www.HistoryinaBook.com which offers an innovative way to transform your family history into a compelling read. Turtle's seventh book, Vanishing Ireland - Further Chronicles of a Disappearing World, with photographer James Fennell, was the top- selling Picture Book in Ireland over Christmas 2009. On 18 Mar 2010, at 19:36, Michelle Wilson wrote: > Can anyone please tell me if Dublin has a website with rootsweb like > this > one for Carlow? If so, could you please give me the "subscribe" > address? > Thank You > Michelle > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. > No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >
[ Note added 2010 by Michael Purcell. In the previous email we reproduced a letter , dated August 1919, from Algernon Coote, seeking subscriptions for the erection of a Memorial to the Irishmen who fought and died in the Great War. In November the following year the Rev Chancellor Graham of Monasterevan was proposing that a subscription list be opened to raise funds for the erection of a Memorial to Algernon Coote who died in October 1920, and who, from the time of writing his letter to the Nationalist 14 months previously, had resigned his position as "His Majesty's Lieutenant of Queen's County" in protest at the "unconstitutional manner of government being administered in Ireland by the British Parliament".] Nationalist. 26th October, 1920. Sir Algernon Coote, Bart. (Born,14th December 1847 ----- Died, 22nd October 1920) We regret to announce the death of Sir Algernon Charles Plumptre Coote, Bart.,which occurred at his residence, Ballyfin House, Mountrath, Queen's County, on Saturday morning after a brief illness. Sir Algernon Coote, who was the Premier Baronet of Ireland, was the son of the late Rev. Sir Algernon Coote, Bart., and Cecillia only daughter of the late J.P.Plumptre of Fredville Kent, he was educated at Eton and Cambridge, where he took the degree of Master of Arts in 1875. He studied originally for the engineering profession, but subsequently interested himself in religious and philanthropic work, and acted as lay deputation secretary to the British and Foreign Bible Society for many years. On his succession to the baronetcy in 1898, he continued to support the work of this Society, and was also President of the Hibernian Church Missionary Society, besides taking an active part in the Synods and Committees of the Church of Ireland. When he came to reside in Ballyfin on the death of his father, he interested himself in the management of his estate. He was appointed his Majesty's Lieutenant for Queen's County in 1900, also held the Commission of the Peace. He had also held the office of High Sheriff, and on several occasions was foreman of the Grand Jury. He was a member of the Management Committee of the Queen's County Infirmary and of the Queen's County Committee of Agriculture and Technical Instruction. As President of the Queen's County Agriculture Society he gave that body generous financial support. His interest in the improvement of strains of cattle in Ireland is well known, and he was a yearly and successful exhibitor at the Royal Dublin Society's and other Agricultural Shows. At all times he maintained friendly relations with his tenantry, and gave a large amount of employment in Ballyfin in agricultural work and afforestation. He was foremost in the efforts made by Lady Aberdeen and others to combat the spread of tuberculosis, and in association with Lady Coote founded the Maryborough Sanatorium for Consumptives. He recently attached himself to the movement associated with Sir Horace Plunkett, and declared himself in favour of Dominion Home Rule for Ireland, and resigned his position as His Majesty's Lieutenant of Queen's County. He was principle mover in the recent Irish Peace Conference. Religious and philanthropic societies will feel his loss keenly. He was a governor of several hospitals, to all of which he gave generous support. Sir Algernon Coote was twice married. His first wife , Jean, daughter of Captain Trotter, died in 1880. In 1882 he married Ellen Melesina, daughter of Philip Chenevix-Trench, of Botley Hill, Hants.There are six sons and two daughters. The eldest son, Captain Ralph Algernon Coote succeeds to the title and the estate. Interment took place at Ballyfin on Tuesday.
I'm making an inquiry about a Laughlin Dowling and his wife that came from the Carlow area. Mary Freeman was a daughter of Daniel Freeman. She was born 3 Mar 1808. She was the last of six children born. I have no records of who Daniel Freeman married. Laughlin Dowling was born in the same area but in 1796. Both Laughlin Dowling and his wife may have been married Ireland before they immigrated to America. Can you help me in any way ? Sincerely Steve Wilder
The Carlow Sentinel. Saturday March, 15th, 1919. At Monday's Carlow Petty Sessions before Mr. J.C.Ryan, Resident Magistrate and Sir Deny's-Burton, a licence was granted to the recently formed "Comrades of the Great War" Club in Carlow. The club , which has a large membership is now in full working order in their well-equipped rooms, in Burrin Street. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Nationalist , 11th August, 1919. Letter to the Editor. Dear Sir---- We have all heard of the proposed Irish War Memorial to be erected at a Soldiers' Club in Dublin in memory of those brave Irishmen who fought and fell in the recent war : in this club there is to be kept a complete roll of honour of all these giving the name and regiment of each man. I am anxious to obtain from the Queen's County at least £1.000 for this excellent object. The population of our county taken at the last census amounted to 54,000. If 20,000 of these gave one shilling each , we would have our £1,000. If more were given, of course a larger sum would be obtained. I should be glad to have the names of any friends who would be willing to collect in their own districts and to send me the total amounts. I am Dear Sir, Yours Faithfully, Algernon Coote, His Majesty's Lieutenant in the Queen's County. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Nationalist, 31st January, 1920. Letter to the Editor. Browne's Hill, Carlow. 27th January, 1920. Sir---I see by your last week's issue that I was shown as elected as a Unionist member of the Carlow Urban District Council. I beg to point out that I stood as representative of the Comrades of the Great War, an organisation , which is strictly non-political. ----Yours faithfully, Robert Browne-Clayton, Browne's Hill House. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Nationalist, 7th Feb. 1920. "CARLOW UNIONISM IN THE QUICKSANDS" Letter to the Editor. Sir----In your issue of last week Lieutenant Colonel Browne-Clayton repudiated the publication of his name as a Unionist in connection with the recent Carlow Urban Elections. He says he stands as a "representative of the Comrades of the Great War" and for the life of me I cannot understand why such an association can be interested in local municipal life. Why did not the gallant Colonel issue an election address stating what he was proposing to represent. Is County Carlow Unionism in the Quicksands ?---Yours truly, UNIONIST. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nationalist. August 1920. FFRENCH ---In sad and loving memory of Gunner John Ffrench R.F.A. , Castle Hill, Carlow, killed in action in France, August 22nd , 1917. Day by day we sadly miss him, Words would fail our loss to tell, But in heaven we hope to meet him, Whom on earth we loved so well. Inserted by his loving mother, brothers and sisters.
The Carlow Sentinal, 7th February, 1919. In the King's Bench Division on Tuesday before Mr Justice Madden and Mr Justice Kenny, in the case of the King vs Michael Walshe of Sinn Fein from Tullow, Carlow, who was ordered six months imprisonment by a court martial for being in possession of certain explosives at Tullow, application was made for a conditional order to bring up, for the purpose of being quashed, the proceedings before the court martial. The Carlow Sentinel, 7th February 1919. Letter to the Editor. Moyle, Carlow. February 4th 1919. Sir ---Having read with much interest letters from Mr. Bell, Mr. Burke, and Colonel Moore, perhaps you can spare me space, as one of the oldest active Masters of Hounds in Ireland, to have my say, and, perhaps, throw some light on matters which are imperfectly understood. This month of February is the most important one in the whole year to a Master of Hounds, because in it he contracts either to carry on the sport for another year or give over his country to other hands on May 1st. He also either contracts to keep on his servants for the following season or engages new ones for a like period. About now also he is looking out to replenish his stud, and also breeding his hounds. Masters of Hounds, I may safely say, are a non-political body of men. Personally I have never taken any interest in politics, and during the fourteen years I have hunted the Carlow Hounds I have been most careful never to attend any meeting, subscribe to any organisation, or sign any document that in the remotest way could be connected with politics, and I am sure the same applies to other Masters in Ireland. Therefore I say that the Sinn Fein Executive cannot have any quarrel with us. We spend a great deal of money on the sport we manage. The most moderate two day a week country cannot be worked in present times under an annual cost of £1,500, while many four day a week countries cost more then double that amount. The sum spent and the employment given, directly and indirectly, on the sport are vast, especially if you take into consideration the number of people who live in Ireland and spend their money, and who would not otherwise do so, were it not for the sport they enjoy. Take the Dublin Horse Show alone---the amount of money it brings into Dublin is very great. Again, the trade in hunters is one of Ireland's most successful industries, to say nothing of local shows, point-to-point races, and a hundred and one other functions more or less connected with the chase. Fox-hunting can only exist on two broad principles, the first of which is that you must have good-will and welcome of the owners and occupiers of land over which you hunt. The second is that it must be open to all, both rich and poor alike , to enjoy, and must be absolutely non-political. Nationalist, Unionist, and Sinn Feiners are all equally welcome at the covert side, and are expected for the time being to leave their politics at home. Now, sir, I come to the point of this letter, which is that we Masters of Hounds should be told now, at this important time of the year, once and for all, if we are to be allowed to hunt or not. The Sinn Fein Executive have no quarrel with us. Let them play the game, and say at once what they mean to do , if they wish to abolish fox-hunting in Ireland and are backed up in that desire by the majority of their supporters, there is no doubt that it cannot go on. In that case let them declare themselves, and let us make our arrangements accordingly. There are at present a number of English hunting countries vacant, and some of us , at any rate, would be anxious to take over one of them, if we are liable to be stopped in this country, at a moment's notice should any political difficulty arise over which we have not the smallest control. No man in his senses would contract to hunt a country for another year on such terms. Let the Sinn Fein Executive take immediate steps to find out if the majority of their supporters wish fox-hunting abolished in Ireland or not. If they do, I feel sure that Masters of Hounds will bow to that decision, and no further attempt will be made to carry it on. If, on the other hand, the majority are in favour of the sport and industry of fox-hunting still continuing, let them also bow to that decision, and cease to mix up politics with the chase. You might as well try to mix oil and water as politics and fox-hunting----Yours, etc, W.E.Grogan, Master of the Carlow Hounds. [ Note added 2010. I am not sure yet of the Sinn Fein response to this letter but judging from the following report published three weeks later in the Nationalist and Leinster Times, the Sinn Fein Executive was not in favour of allowing fox-hunting. Nationalist, 1st March 1919. Hunt Stopped in South Kildare. On Thursday the Kildare Hounds met at Davidstown, Castledermot, but were called off by the Master on the arrival of a body of men belonging to the Baltinglass, Castledermot and Moone Sinn Fein Clubs, who came for the purpose of stopping the hunt. No interview took place between any member of the Hunt Club and the Sinn Feiners. The members of the hunt then proceeded to ---?--- , where it was discovered the fox earths had been opened during the night to prevent the hunt being held. It has been reported that the Kildare Hunt will not hunt again this season.
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A belated Happy St Patrick's day to all, just coming around after one hell of a Party, all the best Terry --- El mié, 17/3/10, Michael Brennan <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk> escribió: De: Michael Brennan <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk> Asunto: [IRL-CARLOW] St. Patricks Day Para: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Fecha: miércoles, 17 de marzo, 2010 22:46 A Very Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone out there on the List. Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
That's what happend to my family too. Byrne became Burns. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Treacy Breen" <tab1310@hotmail.co.uk> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:39:06 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Shipping Records... DILLON/BYRNE Philadelphia Shipping List Sailing from Queenstown April 1908 Arriving Philadelphia April 1908 JOHANNA BYRNE Age 24 Married Housekeeper Ship: Friesland Last Residence: Mother, Eliza Dillon, Kilcarrig Bagenalstown Final Destination: Husband James Byrne, Chestnut Hill Phila. Travelling with JOHANNA BYRNE is daughter MARGARET BYRNE, 11 months. Note: Johanna Dillon married James Byrne in St Andrew's B-Town in 1907. Her parents were John & Elizabeth Dillon of Kilcarrig (The Rocks) Bagenalstown. Checking the census for Johanna & James Byrne, in Phila, the spelling of BYRNE became BURNS. JOHANNA became JOSEPHINE. _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
A Very Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone out there on the List. Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm
Philadelphia Shipping List Sailing from Queenstown April 1908 Arriving Philadelphia April 1908 JOHANNA BYRNE Age 24 Married Housekeeper Ship: Friesland Last Residence: Mother, Eliza Dillon, Kilcarrig Bagenalstown Final Destination: Husband James Byrne, Chestnut Hill Phila. Travelling with JOHANNA BYRNE is daughter MARGARET BYRNE, 11 months. Note: Johanna Dillon married James Byrne in St Andrew's B-Town in 1907. Her parents were John & Elizabeth Dillon of Kilcarrig (The Rocks) Bagenalstown. Checking the census for Johanna & James Byrne, in Phila, the spelling of BYRNE became BURNS. JOHANNA became JOSEPHINE. _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/
A late Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone from Central Canada. My family just celebrated the day with a nice supper of corned beef, cabbage and potatoes washed down with a Guinness. It's what we would have had today anyway, I just added the Guinness for the special day. Tom