Thanks Mick and Roger for this info.Karen. > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:31:20 +0100 > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] CONRAN family name > > Father James Conran was Parish Priest in Ballon 1802 -1825. > Prior to that he was P.P. in Rosenallis, Queen's County (Co. Laois). > Following the death of Bishop Corcoran in 1819, James was appointed > Vicar-Capitular > of the Diocese of Kildare and Leighlin. > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Roger Nowlan <rnowlan@primus.ca> wrote: > > > Karen [Conderan], > > I believe that a Rev. James Conran once owned land in the area of Ballon as > > a "Rev. James Couran" (my transcription) is referenced in an 1832 will for > > a > > Thomas Nowlan of Ballon who had a leasehold on lands and premises managed > > by > > "the Representatives of the late Rev. James Couran". > > > > Regards, > > Roger Nowlan > > > > PS#1: Mike Purcell of the list suggested that what I transcribed as Couran > > was likely Conran. > > > > PS#2: I also live in Canada, in the Ottawa area. > > > > ******************** > > http://nolanfamilies.org > > ******************** > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "karen conderan" <kcond@live.ca> > > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > > > > > > > > > I'm willing to assist with typing - are you able to send scanned images > > to > > > those of us outside Ireland?Thanks for your offer to look at these copies > > > of Cathedral Registers.I've no dates to give you, but would appreciate > > any > > > references to Conran/Condron, etc., should you happen to see any.Thanks, > > > Karen. > > > > > >> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:42:19 +0000 > > >> From: carlowmike@gmail.com > > >> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > >> > > >> we have found a photocopy in the PPP of Carlow Cathedral Registers for > > >> 1774 > > >> to 1794 and 1787 --1811. > > >> I can confirm that the only Baptisms or Marriages recorded during 1777 > > to > > >> 1791 > > >> were for those who paid. > > >> 2 shillings and 2 pence for a Baptism. > > >> 1 shilling and 1 penny for " an Unction" . ( the sacrament of Extreme > > >> Unction ). > > >> 5 shillings and 5 pence for a marriage. > > >> We will be looking for a "willing victim" to type up the photocopies for > > >> the > > >> Carlow List > > >> any takers ?....................... > > >> considering postage costs it is better if the volunteer is resident in > > >> Ireland . > > >> In the meantime if someone has a particular enquiry for this period , > > now > > >> is > > >> the time to ask , > > >> the Registers are not indexed so approx. date of inquiry would assist. > > >> this offer is open for a week as we have to continue cataloguing the PPP > > >> and > > >> will > > >> be moving on to other items, mick > > >> ======================================= > > >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > > >> subscribe to the List. 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Father James Conran was Parish Priest in Ballon 1802 -1825. Prior to that he was P.P. in Rosenallis, Queen's County (Co. Laois). Following the death of Bishop Corcoran in 1819, James was appointed Vicar-Capitular of the Diocese of Kildare and Leighlin. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Roger Nowlan <rnowlan@primus.ca> wrote: > Karen [Conderan], > I believe that a Rev. James Conran once owned land in the area of Ballon as > a "Rev. James Couran" (my transcription) is referenced in an 1832 will for > a > Thomas Nowlan of Ballon who had a leasehold on lands and premises managed > by > "the Representatives of the late Rev. James Couran". > > Regards, > Roger Nowlan > > PS#1: Mike Purcell of the list suggested that what I transcribed as Couran > was likely Conran. > > PS#2: I also live in Canada, in the Ottawa area. > > ******************** > http://nolanfamilies.org > ******************** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "karen conderan" <kcond@live.ca> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > > > > > I'm willing to assist with typing - are you able to send scanned images > to > > those of us outside Ireland?Thanks for your offer to look at these copies > > of Cathedral Registers.I've no dates to give you, but would appreciate > any > > references to Conran/Condron, etc., should you happen to see any.Thanks, > > Karen. > > > >> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:42:19 +0000 > >> From: carlowmike@gmail.com > >> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > >> > >> we have found a photocopy in the PPP of Carlow Cathedral Registers for > >> 1774 > >> to 1794 and 1787 --1811. > >> I can confirm that the only Baptisms or Marriages recorded during 1777 > to > >> 1791 > >> were for those who paid. > >> 2 shillings and 2 pence for a Baptism. > >> 1 shilling and 1 penny for " an Unction" . ( the sacrament of Extreme > >> Unction ). > >> 5 shillings and 5 pence for a marriage. > >> We will be looking for a "willing victim" to type up the photocopies for > >> the > >> Carlow List > >> any takers ?....................... > >> considering postage costs it is better if the volunteer is resident in > >> Ireland . > >> In the meantime if someone has a particular enquiry for this period , > now > >> is > >> the time to ask , > >> the Registers are not indexed so approx. date of inquiry would assist. > >> this offer is open for a week as we have to continue cataloguing the PPP > >> and > >> will > >> be moving on to other items, mick > >> ======================================= > >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > >> subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > >> --------------------------------------- > >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Live connected with Messenger on your phone > > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712958 > > ======================================= > > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > > --------------------------------------- > > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Michael, I would be interested in helping with cataloguing the Carlow Military Barracks records. Treacy Fermanagh > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:36:24 +0100 > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > no scanner ...but we have a volunteer lined up , Alan McGrath. based here in > Carlow. > Several Condrons but no Conrans recorded .... it is amazing the no Conrans > were recorded in Carlow town registers between 1769 --1920. > Looking for a volunteer now to undertake cataloguing and assessment of > records from Carlow Military Barracks 1700 --1922. > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 5:58 PM, karen conderan <kcond@live.ca> wrote: > > > > > I'm willing to assist with typing - are you able to send scanned images to > > those of us outside Ireland?Thanks for your offer to look at these copies of > > Cathedral Registers.I've no dates to give you, but would appreciate any > > references to Conran/Condron, etc., should you happen to see any.Thanks, > > Karen. > > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:42:19 +0000 > > > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > > > > > we have found a photocopy in the PPP of Carlow Cathedral Registers for > > 1774 > > > to 1794 and 1787 --1811. > > > I can confirm that the only Baptisms or Marriages recorded during 1777 to > > > 1791 > > > were for those who paid. > > > 2 shillings and 2 pence for a Baptism. > > > 1 shilling and 1 penny for " an Unction" . ( the sacrament of Extreme > > > Unction ). > > > 5 shillings and 5 pence for a marriage. > > > We will be looking for a "willing victim" to type up the photocopies for > > the > > > Carlow List > > > any takers ?....................... > > > considering postage costs it is better if the volunteer is resident in > > > Ireland . > > > In the meantime if someone has a particular enquiry for this period , now > > is > > > the time to ask , > > > the Registers are not indexed so approx. date of inquiry would assist. > > > this offer is open for a week as we have to continue cataloguing the PPP > > and > > > will > > > be moving on to other items, mick > > > ======================================= > > > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > > > --------------------------------------- > > > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Live connected with Messenger on your phone > > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712958 > > ======================================= > > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > > to the List. Its FREE! > > --------------------------------------- > > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

no scanner ...but we have a volunteer lined up , Alan McGrath. based here in Carlow. Several Condrons but no Conrans recorded .... it is amazing the no Conrans were recorded in Carlow town registers between 1769 --1920. Looking for a volunteer now to undertake cataloguing and assessment of records from Carlow Military Barracks 1700 --1922. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 5:58 PM, karen conderan <kcond@live.ca> wrote: > > I'm willing to assist with typing - are you able to send scanned images to > those of us outside Ireland?Thanks for your offer to look at these copies of > Cathedral Registers.I've no dates to give you, but would appreciate any > references to Conran/Condron, etc., should you happen to see any.Thanks, > Karen. > > > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:42:19 +0000 > > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > > > we have found a photocopy in the PPP of Carlow Cathedral Registers for > 1774 > > to 1794 and 1787 --1811. > > I can confirm that the only Baptisms or Marriages recorded during 1777 to > > 1791 > > were for those who paid. > > 2 shillings and 2 pence for a Baptism. > > 1 shilling and 1 penny for " an Unction" . ( the sacrament of Extreme > > Unction ). > > 5 shillings and 5 pence for a marriage. > > We will be looking for a "willing victim" to type up the photocopies for > the > > Carlow List > > any takers ?....................... > > considering postage costs it is better if the volunteer is resident in > > Ireland . > > In the meantime if someone has a particular enquiry for this period , now > is > > the time to ask , > > the Registers are not indexed so approx. date of inquiry would assist. > > this offer is open for a week as we have to continue cataloguing the PPP > and > > will > > be moving on to other items, mick > > ======================================= > > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > > --------------------------------------- > > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Live connected with Messenger on your phone > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712958 > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

To the Editor Carlow Sentinel. Lisnavagh, Rathvilly, Co. Carlow, May, 1919. Dear Sir--- I have received, as His Majesty's Lieutenant of the County, an urgent appeal from the Minister of Pensions, Chairman of the Trustees of the King's Fund for the re-establishing of disabled officers and men in civil life. Having regard to the strong claims which the disabled have on the support of every one of us, I have decided to open a County Subscription. The amount asked for is £3,000,000, and His Majesty the King has been graciously pleased to head the list of subscribers with the magnificent sum of £78,000. The fund will in no way interfere with State Grants, but will touch those cases which cannot be dealt with by any hard and fast rule which of necessity must be laid down when dealing with public money. No particular part of the Fund is being allocated to a particular County or District. Every disabled man, in whatever part of the Kingdom he resides, has a right to a grant from the Fund on proving his case. I would specially ask that intended subscriptions be sent to me, and not direct to the Fund, as I understand that there will be considerable rivalry among the Counties, and we shall naturally desire to stand high in the list of county subscriptions. The Committee of the County Red Cross Branch has agreed to allocate the sum of £180 out of their surplus funds to the above object, and I propose myself to contribute £25. I hope all subscriptions may be sent to me before the 15th of June. ---- Yours faithfully, RATHDONNELL, H.M.L., Co. Carlow. P.S.---Already a considerable sum from the King's Fund has been expended in this County through the War Pensions Committee.

I'm willing to assist with typing - are you able to send scanned images to those of us outside Ireland?Thanks for your offer to look at these copies of Cathedral Registers.I've no dates to give you, but would appreciate any references to Conran/Condron, etc., should you happen to see any.Thanks, Karen. > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:42:19 +0000 > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > we have found a photocopy in the PPP of Carlow Cathedral Registers for 1774 > to 1794 and 1787 --1811. > I can confirm that the only Baptisms or Marriages recorded during 1777 to > 1791 > were for those who paid. > 2 shillings and 2 pence for a Baptism. > 1 shilling and 1 penny for " an Unction" . ( the sacrament of Extreme > Unction ). > 5 shillings and 5 pence for a marriage. > We will be looking for a "willing victim" to type up the photocopies for the > Carlow List > any takers ?....................... > considering postage costs it is better if the volunteer is resident in > Ireland . > In the meantime if someone has a particular enquiry for this period , now is > the time to ask , > the Registers are not indexed so approx. date of inquiry would assist. > this offer is open for a week as we have to continue cataloguing the PPP and > will > be moving on to other items, mick > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Live connected with Messenger on your phone http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712958

Wonder if you might send any references to the surnames DeRenzy and Holohan and variants of those. Sorry I don't have any dates...just hoping that something will show up. Many, many thanks, Pat Zipf Jamesburg NJ

Jean has extracted the following from Carlow Cathedral Registers, may be of interest to various Listers : Rev. William Fitzgerald , Parish Priest.Registry of St. Mary's Parish of Carlow during the year of our Lord 1820, ( today we call the registers "Carlow Cathedral Registers" ) Baptisms. May 26th, 1830.Jane a Deserted Child with Red hair, Sponsor Eliza Bruder. 25th May, 1830. Jane, daughter of Pat Lancaster and Honor Warrin 27th March, 1833. Mary daughter of Thomas Nolan, Braulstown, parish of Rathvilly and Mary Caning (?). Sponsor; Anne Farrell, ( in comment section, priest has entered ) "Spurious". Marriages; 30th April, 1836. Thomas Cummins from Grange, Rathoe to Ellen Hendrecken from NewGarden. Sponsors ; Patrick Cummins and Anne Grant. 7th July, 1844. Patrick Cummins to Margaret Neill, Sponsors; Levoy Cox and Margaret Breen, Patrick Cummins is a private in the 90th Light Infantry Stationed here in Carlow--the girl resides in Pollerton Road. 19th August, 1834. Patrick Edward Cuddy of Tullow Street to Brigit Johnson. Sponsors; Thomas Brophy and Mary Hennesy. 5th July 1840. By permission of Major Boileau. John Murphy to Catherine Carroll, John is with 22nd Regt. Stationed in Kilkenny. 6th July, 1840. Luke Franklin to Anna Bunbury, Sponsors; William Bunbury and Mary Bunbury. , Castle Street, Carlow. 26th August 1839. By permission of the Bishop Dr. Doyle. Maurice Nolan, a Catholic to Clare Acheson, a Protestant. Sponsors' Luke Franklin, William Bunbury, Mary Bunbury. 22nd Feb. 1841. Garrett Hearns to Mary Meyers, Sponsors; John King and Mrs Shallow. Coal Market, Carlow. 3rd August, 1839. Michael Grimes, a Vagabond Soldier, to Bridget Walsh. 14th Feb. 1833. William Smyth to Ann Wall, Dispensed with as being members of the C. Society. Coal Market, Carlow. 4th October, 1821. By a Verbal Dispensation of The Right Rev. James, Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin, in Consequence of the Forbidden Time ~~~~ Married John Materson to Mary Lyng. Sponsors, Michael and Catherine Brophy. By Rev. William Fitzgerald. April 7th 1833. James McWilliams , a Lance Sergeant in the 18th Foot Guards to Frances Dempsey. October 4th 1821. Married John Whelan to Anne Murphy , Alias, Helligan. Both of Green Lane. Witnesses John Strahan and Mary Cullen. These Persons were Authorised to Marry by a dispensation Granted to them by The Right Rev. James Doyle, Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin ~~ Anne Murphy's deceased Husband having been cousin --?-- of above mentioned John Whelan. By Rev. William Fitz-gerald. Number of Marriages recorded 1820 to 1845. in St. Mary's Register 1,026. (Carlow R.C. Cathedral Parish).

Karen [Conderan], I believe that a Rev. James Conran once owned land in the area of Ballon as a "Rev. James Couran" (my transcription) is referenced in an 1832 will for a Thomas Nowlan of Ballon who had a leasehold on lands and premises managed by "the Representatives of the late Rev. James Couran". Regards, Roger Nowlan PS#1: Mike Purcell of the list suggested that what I transcribed as Couran was likely Conran. PS#2: I also live in Canada, in the Ottawa area. ******************** http://nolanfamilies.org ******************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "karen conderan" <kcond@live.ca> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > I'm willing to assist with typing - are you able to send scanned images to > those of us outside Ireland?Thanks for your offer to look at these copies > of Cathedral Registers.I've no dates to give you, but would appreciate any > references to Conran/Condron, etc., should you happen to see any.Thanks, > Karen. > >> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:42:19 +0000 >> From: carlowmike@gmail.com >> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 >> >> we have found a photocopy in the PPP of Carlow Cathedral Registers for >> 1774 >> to 1794 and 1787 --1811. >> I can confirm that the only Baptisms or Marriages recorded during 1777 to >> 1791 >> were for those who paid. >> 2 shillings and 2 pence for a Baptism. >> 1 shilling and 1 penny for " an Unction" . ( the sacrament of Extreme >> Unction ). >> 5 shillings and 5 pence for a marriage. >> We will be looking for a "willing victim" to type up the photocopies for >> the >> Carlow List >> any takers ?....................... >> considering postage costs it is better if the volunteer is resident in >> Ireland . >> In the meantime if someone has a particular enquiry for this period , now >> is >> the time to ask , >> the Registers are not indexed so approx. date of inquiry would assist. >> this offer is open for a week as we have to continue cataloguing the PPP >> and >> will >> be moving on to other items, mick >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must >> subscribe to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Live connected with Messenger on your phone > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712958 > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I bet these guys were heads above everyone: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/Tall_Soldiers.htm Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Jean, Thanks for taking the time and effort to help with this transcription project. I know that we all are grateful to you for doing this! ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean casey" <kildaregenealogy@gmail.com> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:14 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral Registers Photocopies forCarlow+Graigue Killeshin. >I am at present working on the archive collection known as the Pat Purcell > Papers. > In this undertaking I am assisted by two part-time volunteers. > I am very grateful to Michael Purcell for > this opportunity to work on such an important resource. > I wish to add the following comment to Carlow / Graigue / Killeshin > Baptism > and Marriage registers, 1769 to 1811 , photocopied and found in the PPP > last week. > The photocopies appear to have been done in 1969 by Pat Purcell. > The Baptisms / Marriages in the Cathedral Register for Carlow / Graigue > / > Killeshin were entered by a clerk, who seems more interested in keeping > the > accounts for 1777 to 1784. > The Parish Priest of Carlow -Graigue, Mr Gernon, is paid a fee at the end > of each month. > Many entries state : > "Baptism at (name of street )" , two shillings = two pence. (no name > recorded). > "for an Unction" one shilling = one penny (no name recorded). > "for a Baptism and Unction" = three shillings and three pence (combination > of both charges ). > " Married at Mr. Gernons House" five shillings and five pence. > There are a few entries recorded as "unpaid". > All the writing is very clear and readable. > Most entries are named with no record of Sponsors for Baptisms but > Witnesses > are recorded for Marriages. > What is really frustrating is when he gives the address, there is no name > attached and when he records the names, no address in given . > Best Wishes, Jean. > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In the PPP Cathedral lists, I would be grateful if you notice any LARGE listings, particularly LARGE/KAVANAGH. I found the charges for the "churchings" interesting. I guess they charged for everything. I remember in the 1960's watching women get "churched" after Sunday Mass. I assume the practice was derived from the Jewish practice of women going to the mikveh (synagogue bath) after childbirth. Deb DEBORAH LARGE FOX Read my blog for Irish research tips: "Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors!" http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com

Carlow Cathedral Register, 18th December 1777. ( Today, the Register is called Carlow Cathedral Register but there was not a Cathedral in Carlow in 1777. ) James Fitzgerald and Judith Bernard who renounced Protestantism and its tenets. Admitted her being a Catholick, avowed Catholicity in the presence of Andrew Fitzgerald. ( no charge ). 24th Dec. 1777. Married, John Curren and Catherine Brahony, Sponsors, Dan Hennesy and Cath. Shiky. 24th October 1783. Danial Murphy and Brigit Warren, Sponsor. Mary Warren. There are many Currens and Cummins recorded.

There are only a few Lawlers, have not spotted any Maddocks yet ...when the registers are transcribed we will be sharing the results with all of you . On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Barb Pattman <bpattman@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > Thank you so much for the quick response! Don't know if this Mary is an > ancestor of mine but hanging onto the information > Just in case. She could be a sister of my James, who knows! I know so > very > little, pre arrival in Saint John. > Again, thank you, much appreciated. > > Barb > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell > Sent: March-27-10 1:39 PM > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > 30th August, 1788. Bapt. Mary of James Lawler and Catherine Seymour, > Sponsors ; Michael Quinn and Catherine Connelly. no address. > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Barb Pattman <bpattman@nbnet.nb.ca> > wrote: > > > Would appreciate any information on Lawlor or similar spelling, around > > 1788, > > give or take a few years. I wish I give have a more > > Accurate date but I don't have one. In particular, James Lawlor. When > > James dies in Saint John on April 7, 1861 his obituary stated he was in > his > > 73rd year of life and a native of the town of Carlow. 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Hi Tom, Myn Sheil relatives had the same situation. James Sheil married Catherine Walsh @1865. he was protestant and she was Catholic. Their solutyon was to raise their four sons Protestant after the father's religion ,and the one daughter, my grandmother, Catholic after her mother's religion. TJames and Catherine also are buried in two separate cemeteries...apparently neither converted to the other's religion. Kind of sad to think of being buried separately. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom LaPorte To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Bowles Hi Mick and list This one may be a mixed marriage. William Bowles was indeed Protestant but this only makes sense if Sarah Moore was Catholic. Their son Robert was not only baptized at the Catholic church on June 25, 1773 he was also baptized at St. Mary's Carlow (C of I) just 5 days earlier. Also, Robert was raised Catholic but later married a Quaker, Anne Waring, the widow of Thomas Baker of Ballickmoyler. Do any of the other known Protestant entries which you saw, look like mixed marriages? That has been my theory on this one anyway. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 27 March 2010 11:01 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Bowles Importance: High Carlow R.C. Cathedral Register. 25th June, 1773. Baptised, Robert son of William Bowles and Sara Moore. Sponsors ; Marjary Macdermott. It would appear that several of those recorded are "Protestant" , there are no comments in the register to indicate this but I know some of the families ... ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carlow Cathedral Register. 26th September 1778. Churched Mr. Gurley's Milk Woman, 2 shillings and 2pence -offering 4 shillings and 8 pence =Total 6 shillings and 10 pence. ( Note added in 2010. "Churched" was a form of purification ceremony that mothers were to have offered shortly after birth of a baby. This was a practice continued in the R.C. church up to 1970s or 80s. There are many entries in this register for "a Purification" the charge was one shilling and one penny ----one entry reads ; 21st November 1778, " for an Unction and Purification" two shillings and two pence" ===( combined charge for both services, obviously the mother was in danger of death , no mention of a baptism which may indicate that the baby had died ! ). 5th September, 1780. for a Baptism in Leigh and Unctions, 4 shillings and 4 pence, ( may be a case of both mother and baby are in danger of death, the priest first baptises the baby and then administers Extreme Unction to both of them ) Total figures for October 1778. Baptisms and Unctions 2 pounds / 2 shilling. Marriages; 5 shillings and 5 pence. Total ; 2 pounds 7 shillings. 5 pence. For my payment ; 11 shillings and 9 pence. For Mr. Gernon ; 1 pound, 15 shillings and 4 pence. ( Mr. Gernon was the Parish Priest for Carlow, Graigue, and Killeshin, not sure if the Baptisms / Marriages records were entered by a housekeeper or a clerk, but it appears the Mr Gernon did not enter any of them from 1777 to 1782.)

I think their treatment by their families might have been even sadder. I know of two brother's lines, one Protestant and one who married a Catholic and raised the children Catholic, who emigrated to Canada the same year and to this day the two families refuse to admit that there is any connection to each other. That must have been how they felt when they arrived and it never changed. Also, the Catholic branch prospered in Canada and the Protestant family ended up losing their farms, going out west to settle and then losing everything out there. Now both look down on the other one and my documentation that their ancestors were brothers was never acknowledged by either family. Now that's sad. -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maribeth Nolan Sent: 27 March 2010 16:13 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Bowles Importance: High Hi Tom, Myn Sheil relatives had the same situation. James Sheil married Catherine Walsh @1865. he was protestant and she was Catholic. Their solutyon was to raise their four sons Protestant after the father's religion ,and the one daughter, my grandmother, Catholic after her mother's religion. TJames and Catherine also are buried in two separate cemeteries...apparently neither converted to the other's religion. Kind of sad to think of being buried separately. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom LaPorte To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Bowles Hi Mick and list This one may be a mixed marriage. William Bowles was indeed Protestant but this only makes sense if Sarah Moore was Catholic. Their son Robert was not only baptized at the Catholic church on June 25, 1773 he was also baptized at St. Mary's Carlow (C of I) just 5 days earlier. Also, Robert was raised Catholic but later married a Quaker, Anne Waring, the widow of Thomas Baker of Ballickmoyler. Do any of the other known Protestant entries which you saw, look like mixed marriages? That has been my theory on this one anyway. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 27 March 2010 11:01 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Bowles Importance: High Carlow R.C. Cathedral Register. 25th June, 1773. Baptised, Robert son of William Bowles and Sara Moore. Sponsors ; Marjary Macdermott. It would appear that several of those recorded are "Protestant" , there are no comments in the register to indicate this but I know some of the families ... ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carlow R.C. Cathedral Register. 25th June, 1773. Baptised, Robert son of William Bowles and Sara Moore. Sponsors ; Marjary Macdermott. It would appear that several of those recorded are "Protestant" , there are no comments in the register to indicate this but I know some of the families ...

Hi Mick and list This one may be a mixed marriage. William Bowles was indeed Protestant but this only makes sense if Sarah Moore was Catholic. Their son Robert was not only baptized at the Catholic church on June 25, 1773 he was also baptized at St. Mary's Carlow (C of I) just 5 days earlier. Also, Robert was raised Catholic but later married a Quaker, Anne Waring, the widow of Thomas Baker of Ballickmoyler. Do any of the other known Protestant entries which you saw, look like mixed marriages? That has been my theory on this one anyway. Tom -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 27 March 2010 11:01 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Bowles Importance: High Carlow R.C. Cathedral Register. 25th June, 1773. Baptised, Robert son of William Bowles and Sara Moore. Sponsors ; Marjary Macdermott. It would appear that several of those recorded are "Protestant" , there are no comments in the register to indicate this but I know some of the families ... ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

30th August, 1788. Bapt. Mary of James Lawler and Catherine Seymour, Sponsors ; Michael Quinn and Catherine Connelly. no address. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Barb Pattman <bpattman@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > Would appreciate any information on Lawlor or similar spelling, around > 1788, > give or take a few years. I wish I give have a more > Accurate date but I don't have one. In particular, James Lawlor. When > James dies in Saint John on April 7, 1861 his obituary stated he was in his > 73rd year of life and a native of the town of Carlow. On the marriage > register, May 18, 1822 in Saint John, his parents are not listed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of alberdix@nbnet.nb.ca > Sent: March-27-10 11:44 AM > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Cathedral 1774--1811 > > Hello, > > Any information on family name Maddix, Maddocks or similar spelling would > be > wonderful. Wish I could help transcribe but I live in Canada. > > Jeanne > ---- michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> wrote: > > we have found a photocopy in the PPP of Carlow Cathedral Registers for > 1774 > > to 1794 and 1787 --1811. > > I can confirm that the only Baptisms or Marriages recorded during 1777 to > > 1791 > > were for those who paid. > > 2 shillings and 2 pence for a Baptism. > > 1 shilling and 1 penny for " an Unction" . ( the sacrament of Extreme > > Unction ). > > 5 shillings and 5 pence for a marriage. > > We will be looking for a "willing victim" to type up the photocopies for > the > > Carlow List > > any takers ?....................... > > considering postage costs it is better if the volunteer is resident in > > Ireland . > > In the meantime if someone has a particular enquiry for this period , now > is > > the time to ask , > > the Registers are not indexed so approx. date of inquiry would assist. > > this offer is open for a week as we have to continue cataloguing the PPP > and > > will > > be moving on to other items, mick > > ======================================= > > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > > --------------------------------------- > > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2772 - Release Date: 03/27/10 > 04:32:00 > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >