Hello, How can I have access? I'm new at this. Jeanne ---- Alan McGrath <amcgrath80@gmail.com> wrote: > There are some Maddocks in the records already transcribed and posted. > > Alan > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are some Maddocks in the records already transcribed and posted. Alan

War of Independence Jan 1919--July 1922. [Note added 2010. One of the men in Belfast prison at this time was Seamus Lennon, T.D.E. from Carlow, a Sinn Feiner, he was elected to the First Dail as representative for Carlow in 1918. Patrick Gaffney, a brother of William Gaffney, secretary to the Graiguecullen Sinn Fein Club, was in jail in England. The Hunting / Racing debate could be regarded as an early battle for "hearts and minds". ] Nationalist, May 1919. Letter to the Editor. Straw Hall, Carlow, April 15th 1919. Carlow Hunt Sportman's Races. Sir:--It has been found necessary with great regret to abandon the races planned for Easter Monday. Politics were brought in as a condition to the holding of the meeting therefore no other course was open to the Committee ---Yours faithfully, H.Herring-Cooper, Hon. Sec. Reply to above letter. Nationalist, May 1919. Graiguecullen Sinn Fein Club. 25th April, 1919. Sir:--- We leave it to your readers to determine the truth or accuracy of the statement of the Carlow Hunt Race Committee. They were not asked to interfere in a political matter. They were asked merely on purely humanitarian grounds to protest against the brutal treatment that at present is being given to certain young Irishmen in Irish and British jails. They were not asked to protest against the imprisonment of these men, but against the present conditions of their imprisonment which were equalled only in the worst days of the slave trade. The members of the Hunt Committee dismiss all this as politics. They would be pleased to have their day's sport on the lands of the men whose own relative is one of the suffering in Belfast Jail --- sportsmen indeed !. Further, they were asked to protest against the gross breach of faith perpetrated by the English Chief Secretary for Ireland against the Bishop of Down and Connor and the Lord Mayor of Dublin in the matter of the prisoners' treatment. But again sportsmen have no concern with breaches of faith, even in a matter where not merely human dignity but human life is at stake. These sportsmen are raising the cry on many sides that Ireland will suffer grave financial loss by the stoppage of hunting. Are these sportsmen, superior as they are to human suffering and public fair dealing, so brainless and so dead to all feeling human as well as national, as not to realise that we value the life and health of our fellow-countrymen and value our national rights at a figure to which their horse trade could never attain. These sportsmen should first try to be men, then Irishmen, and then true sportsmen. Yours truly, P.Whitney, William Gaffney, Sec.

Thomas from Hollymount, Queen's County, married Mary Coleman from Oak Park, 1919. Mary Ann from Granby Row, Carlow, died 1972. only two recorded in Cathedral Registers. Alan may find some more in the earlier registers, all the entries will be posted in time.

Carlow Cathedral. John Baptism, 1886, father, Barth, mother, Thersa Warren, Dublin Road, Carlow. John married Ann Doyle, 1777.

all the Register entries will be posted within the next few weeks, On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:17 PM, <dot13@eircom.net> wrote: > > Hi there, > > Have you found any entries for a John Hutchinson by any chance? > > Best wishes. > > Dot > ----- "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> wrote: > > we have found a photocopy in the PPP of Carlow Cathedral Registers > > for 1774 > > to 1794 and 1787 --1811. > > I can confirm that the only Baptisms or Marriages recorded during 1777 > > to > > 1791 > > were for those who paid. > > 2 shillings and 2 pence for a Baptism. > > 1 shilling and 1 penny for " an Unction" . ( the sacrament of Extreme > > Unction ). > > 5 shillings and 5 pence for a marriage. > > We will be looking for a "willing victim" to type up the photocopies > > for the > > Carlow List > > any takers ?....................... > > considering postage costs it is better if the volunteer is resident > > in > > Ireland . > > In the meantime if someone has a particular enquiry for this period , > > now is > > the time to ask , > > the Registers are not indexed so approx. date of inquiry would > > assist. > > this offer is open for a week as we have to continue cataloguing the > > PPP and > > will > > be moving on to other items, mick > > ======================================= > > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > > --------------------------------------- > > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without > > the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi there, Have you found any entries for a John Hutchinson by any chance? Best wishes. Dot ----- "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> wrote: > we have found a photocopy in the PPP of Carlow Cathedral Registers > for 1774 > to 1794 and 1787 --1811. > I can confirm that the only Baptisms or Marriages recorded during 1777 > to > 1791 > were for those who paid. > 2 shillings and 2 pence for a Baptism. > 1 shilling and 1 penny for " an Unction" . ( the sacrament of Extreme > Unction ). > 5 shillings and 5 pence for a marriage. > We will be looking for a "willing victim" to type up the photocopies > for the > Carlow List > any takers ?....................... > considering postage costs it is better if the volunteer is resident > in > Ireland . > In the meantime if someone has a particular enquiry for this period , > now is > the time to ask , > the Registers are not indexed so approx. date of inquiry would > assist. > this offer is open for a week as we have to continue cataloguing the > PPP and > will > be moving on to other items, mick > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without > the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ONTARIO CANADA DEATHS 1869-1934 ELIZABETH BAILY Death: May 1892 Place: Lanark Birth Abt: 1800 Place: Carlow Ireland Husband : John----Dead ONTARIO CANADA DEATHS MARGARET BERNHARD Died: Aug 9th 1888 Age: 54 Born: Carlow Ireland Religion: Presbyterian Death: Waterloo ONTARIO CANADA DEATHS JAMES BUTLER Death: 9th Nov 1873 Place: Price Edward Birth: Carlow Ireland Birth Abt: 1782 ONTARIO CANADA DEATHS RICHARD THOMAS FAIRCLOTH Death: 3rd Feb 1883 Age: 58 Place: York Birth Abt: 1825 Place: Carlow Ireland _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now

VERMONT DEATH RECORD – RYAN PATRICK J RYAN Place of Death – Bennington Town: Bennington Address: Monument Av Wife: Katherine Ruth D.O.B: 23rd Sept 1868 Age: 75 yrs 8 mos Place of Birth: Co Carlow Ireland Father: THOMAS RYAN Mother: KATHERINE MURPHY VERMONT DEATH RECORD – BURKE nee DREELAN ANNIE D BURKE ANNIE D DREELAN Born: 18th march 1866 Place: Carlow Ireland Death: 12th June 1949 Place: Bennighton Residence: Bennigton Spouse: John m Burke Mother: ELLEN BYRNE Father: MARTIN DREELAN VERMONT DEATH RECORD – MARGARET D HARWOOD nee DREELAN MARGARET D HARWOOD MARGARET D DREELAN Born: 4th jan 1868 Place: Carlow Death: 4th Apr 1945 Place: Bennigton Residence: Bennigton Spouse: William Harwood Mother: ELLEN BYRNE Father: MARTIN DREELAN _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Philadelphia Passenger List S.S. Merion Sailing from Queenstown 27th June 1907 Arriving Philadelphia 9th July 1907 JOHN JACOB Married Labr Norah single child Charles single child Born Carlow Ireland Last Residence: Home Oak Park Carlow 2 Daughters Jane & Ellen Going to: Maple Glenn Wife & Mother paid for trip Wife Elizabeth Jacob Mable Glenn Montgomery (Mother) Philadelphia Passenger List S.S. Noordland Sailing from Queenstown 11th June 1908 Arriving Philadelphia 23rd June 1908 JOHN JACOB age 49 Married Labr ANNIE M JACOB age 15 single servant Last residence: Brother George, Oak Park Carlow Destination: Maple Glenn Montgomery Wife Elizabeth, Maple Glenn Philadelphia Passenger List ELLEN BULGER Arrival: 31st May 1893 Age: 19 Birth Abt: 1874 Port Depart: Queenstown Ireland Ship: British Prince Port of Arrival: Philadelphia Last Residence: Carlow Ireland Passage Paid: JOHN BULGER (Brother) Going to: Brother John Bulger, Phila _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now

Thank you for posting this, Treacy: Not sure if there is a connection between one of my John Bulgers and the one listed below , as I have no record of an Ellen anywhere.  I will try to do some further digging, but I do know my Bulgers hailed from Carlow, and the timeframe for my gg uncle fits. I know there was another John Bulger wreaking havoc all over Philadelphia at this time (at least according to newspaper accounts and his eventual incarceration).  If this is him Ellen was in for quite an interesting time with her brother . . .  Happy Easter, Bethanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Treacy Breen" <tab1310@hotmail.co.uk> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 5:28:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Philadelphia Passenger List - Records Philadelphia Passenger List S.S. Merion Sailing from Queenstown 27th June 1907 Arriving Philadelphia 9th July 1907 JOHN JACOB Married Labr Norah single child Charles single child Born Carlow Ireland Last Residence: Home Oak Park Carlow 2 Daughters Jane & Ellen Going to: Maple Glenn Wife & Mother paid for trip Wife Elizabeth Jacob Mable Glenn Montgomery (Mother)     Philadelphia Passenger List S.S. Noordland Sailing from Queenstown 11th June 1908 Arriving Philadelphia 23rd June 1908 JOHN JACOB age 49 Married Labr ANNIE M JACOB age 15 single servant Last residence: Brother George, Oak Park Carlow Destination: Maple Glenn Montgomery Wife Elizabeth, Maple Glenn     Philadelphia Passenger List ELLEN BULGER Arrival: 31st May 1893 Age: 19 Birth Abt: 1874 Port Depart: Queenstown Ireland Ship: British Prince Port of Arrival: Philadelphia Last Residence: Carlow Ireland Passage Paid: JOHN BULGER (Brother) Going to: Brother John Bulger, Phila                                                  _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, This link may be of interest to some of you. http://www.tcd.ie/history/1641/ The following is a short extract of the 'blurb' on the site: *The Research Resource* The three-year project aims to transcribe and digitise the Depositions comprising 3,400 depositions, examinations and associated materials, located in the Library of Trinity College Dublin, in which Protestant men and women of all classes told of their experiences following the outbreak of the rebellion by the Catholic Irish in October, 1641. Collected by government-appointed commissioners, the witness testimony runs to approximately 19,000 pages, and constitutes the chief evidence for the sharply contested allegation that the rebellion began with a general massacre of protestant settlers. As a result, this material has been central to a protracted and bitter historical dispute. Propagandists, politicians and historians have all exploited the depositions at different times, and the controversy surrounding them has never been satisfactorily resolved. In fact, the 1641 ‘massacres’, like King William’s victory at the Boyne (1690), and the battle of the Somme (1916), have played a key role in creating and sustaining a collective Protestant/British identity in the province of Ulster. Regards and happy Easter to all, J. J.

Hi everyone; Happy Easter to one and all! Here is some reading material to keep you occupied over the holidays. These are from the Pat O'Mahony Memoirs which were provided by Michael Purcell and transcribed by J.J. Woods: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/Pat_OMahony_memoirs_6.htm There are 5 pages added and some more to come later on. Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

No problem Alan. and here's the 1777 extracts: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/Baptisms_Extracts_03.htm Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm From: Alan McGrath Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:16 PM To: Michael Brennan Subject: Re: 1777 Carlow Thanks for that bit of info Michael. Its good to know. Will be able to make more sense of it now. Thanks Alan

Anything known of the earlier history of the CROSTHWAITE family of Co Carlow? Samuel Crosthwaite was a large scale miller at BAGENALSTOWN around the 1820s to 1840s, possibly longer. His address in Pigot's 1824 Provincial Directory for Leighlinbridge gives an address for (probably) him at Lodge Mills. There were also Crosthwaites not far away, farming near ATHY in Co Kildare, one of whose sons, John, was the Dublin clock maker; a John Crosthwaite in LAOIS (Queen's Co) married to an Elizabeth with a son Samuel born c.1838; a Leland Crosthwaite with mills just outside Dublin at LEIXLIP, Co Kildare, a son of whom probably was Thomas Crosthwaite, a governor of the Bank of Ireland, and Leland Crosthwaite of Clontarf. Are all or some of these families connected? Bill.

Interesting...Maple Glen is in Montgomery County...I wonder if the citation said they were going to Maple Glen, Montgomery to his Mother.?? It is very close to the county border with Philadelphia, near the Willow Grove Naval Air Station... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_Glen,_Pennsylvania Joann Treacy Breen wrote: > Philadelphia > Passenger List > > S.S. Merion > > Sailing from Queenstown 27th > June 1907 > > Arriving Philadelphia 9th > July 1907 > > JOHN JACOB Married Labr > > Norah single child > > Charles single child > > Born Carlow Ireland > > Last Residence: Home Oak Park Carlow > > 2 Daughters Jane & Ellen > > Going to: Maple Glenn > > Wife & Mother paid for trip > > Wife Elizabeth Jacob > > Mable Glenn Montgomery (Mother) > > > > > > Philadelphia > Passenger List > > S.S. > Noordland > > Sailing from Queenstown 11th > June 1908 > > Arriving Philadelphia 23rd > June 1908 > > JOHN JACOB age 49 Married Labr > > ANNIE M JACOB age 15 single servant > > Last residence: Brother George, Oak > Park Carlow > > Destination: Maple Glenn Montgomery > > Wife Elizabeth, Maple Glenn > > > > > > Philadelphia Passenger List > > ELLEN BULGER > > Arrival: 31st May 1893 > > Age: 19 > > Birth Abt: 1874 > > Port Depart: Queenstown Ireland > > Ship: British Prince > > Port of Arrival: Philadelphia > > Last Residence: Carlow Ireland > > Passage Paid: JOHN BULGER (Brother) > > Going to: Brother John Bulger, Phila > > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ > We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

-----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 02 April 2010 08:01 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 172 When replying to a message in digest, please don't forget to change the subject and delete all parts of the digest not related to your message. Today's Topics: 1. CROSTHWAITE (Bill Webster) 2. Re: CROSTHWAITE (Terry Curran) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:34:30 +1100 From: "Bill Webster" <wbwebster@internode.on.net> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] CROSTHWAITE To: <IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000801cad226$2b57e050$8207a0f0$@on.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anything known of the earlier history of the CROSTHWAITE family of Co Carlow? Samuel Crosthwaite was a large scale miller at BAGENALSTOWN around the 1820s to 1840s, possibly longer. His address in Pigot's 1824 Provincial Directory for Leighlinbridge gives an address for (probably) him at Lodge Mills. There were also Crosthwaites not far away, farming near ATHY in Co Kildare, one of whose sons, John, was the Dublin clock maker; a John Crosthwaite in LAOIS (Queen's Co) married to an Elizabeth with a son Samuel born c.1838; a Leland Crosthwaite with mills just outside Dublin at LEIXLIP, Co Kildare, a son of whom probably was Thomas Crosthwaite, a governor of the Bank of Ireland, and Leland Crosthwaite of Clontarf. Are all or some of these families connected? Bill. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:47:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Terry Curran <terrycur16@yahoo.es> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] CROSTHWAITE To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <271489.29512.qm@web28313.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Bill I've just been transcibing some old documents when your post came up, a bit scary as I was typing Samual Crosthwaite from Bagenastown. ? doc are from the Famin Relief commitee 1846 ? I send you a copy when finished, all the best Terry --- El vie, 2/4/10, Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> escribi?: De: Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> Asunto: [IRL-CARLOW] CROSTHWAITE Para: IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com Fecha: viernes, 2 de abril, 2010 07:34 Anything known of the earlier history of the CROSTHWAITE family of Co Carlow? Samuel Crosthwaite was a large scale miller at BAGENALSTOWN around the 1820s to 1840s, possibly longer.? His address in Pigot's 1824 Provincial Directory for Leighlinbridge gives an address for (probably) him at Lodge Mills. There were also Crosthwaites not far away, farming near ATHY in Co Kildare, one of whose sons, John, was the Dublin clock maker; a John Crosthwaite in LAOIS (Queen's Co) married to an Elizabeth with a son Samuel born c.1838; a Leland Crosthwaite with mills just outside Dublin at LEIXLIP, Co Kildare, a son of whom probably was Thomas Crosthwaite, a governor of the Bank of Ireland, and Leland Crosthwaite of Clontarf. Are all or some of these families connected? Bill. ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com? with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 172 ******************************************

Hi Bill I've just been transcibing some old documents when your post came up, a bit scary as I was typing Samual Crosthwaite from Bagenastown.   doc are from the Famin Relief commitee 1846   I send you a copy when finished, all the best Terry --- El vie, 2/4/10, Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> escribió: De: Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net> Asunto: [IRL-CARLOW] CROSTHWAITE Para: IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com Fecha: viernes, 2 de abril, 2010 07:34 Anything known of the earlier history of the CROSTHWAITE family of Co Carlow? Samuel Crosthwaite was a large scale miller at BAGENALSTOWN around the 1820s to 1840s, possibly longer.  His address in Pigot's 1824 Provincial Directory for Leighlinbridge gives an address for (probably) him at Lodge Mills. There were also Crosthwaites not far away, farming near ATHY in Co Kildare, one of whose sons, John, was the Dublin clock maker; a John Crosthwaite in LAOIS (Queen's Co) married to an Elizabeth with a son Samuel born c.1838; a Leland Crosthwaite with mills just outside Dublin at LEIXLIP, Co Kildare, a son of whom probably was Thomas Crosthwaite, a governor of the Bank of Ireland, and Leland Crosthwaite of Clontarf. Are all or some of these families connected? Bill. ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, thanks to those who read and transcribe all these old records with the faded, hard to read handwriting! Were you able to scan records to assist you in your endeavors? I would think that including the Sponsors is of benefit also, since they were often relatives. Sometimes this has helped me in doing my own research, sometimes it creates another question. I still have some of those sponsor mysteries to solve. Maybe someday I will figure them out. Great work! Debbie who needs new glasses this year ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:36:01 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Thanks to Alan and Michael Cathedral Baptismal Register transcriptions ,  that is a great job of transcribing by Alan McGrath and a fine presentation of the results by Michael Brennan. I advised Alan not to include  the Sponsors, as I thought it would be too much work for him,  but I can see that he has done so, this greatly enriches the content for researchers. This work is all the more important at present as the original Registers are no longer available for viewing by researchers. Thank you Alan and Michael and Also Thanks to Cara in Tasmania for typing up the Rathvilly registers. There may yet be some more copies of Registers uncovered in the PPP, if so,  I know  we will have a willing and obliging bunch of volunteers on this Carlow site, mick. ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have meant to respond to Michael Brennan's posting made on 23 Feb...but life gets busy. I'm sure it was in response to a post I made on 7 Feb viz: My great, great grandmother was *Sarah Eliza Douglas,* born about 1822 in Carlow, Her father was *Marlborough Douglas*, and mother was *Sarah Rowe*. My great, great grandfather was *Thomas Trueman*. He was born in Carlow about 1820. I have no other information about him. They were married in Carlow about 1847. It seems probable that they arrived in Australia in May 1853 on board the "Marco Polo" which sailed from Liverpool UK. The name Marlborough is an unusual first name, and the name Douglas does not seem to be very common in Ireland. It seems likely that the name Marlborough is one that the family might re-use over many generations. I'd like to find out more information about the connections and other information relating to *Douglas family* *Trueman family* *Rowe family* in the early 1800's and before - or since - in Carlow or other parts of Ireland. Any ideas of how, when and why the Trueman family and Douglas family came to Ireland from the UK would be welcome Chris Trueman" I had previously read about Marlborough Clark Douglas. Marlborough is an unusual name so I made the reasonable assumption that Marlborough Clark Douglas is almost certainly named after an earlier ancestor called Marlborough Douglas who may have died about 1826 - who is the one I am trying to trace. His wife is recorded as being Sarah Rowe. One of their children was Sarah Eliza Douglas born about 1822. Since Marlborough Clark Douglas was apparently a historian, and his papers passed to Pat Purcell, there may be a good chance that his papers contained information about his own family history. If so, that would be very useful to obtain. Any ideas? michael purcell wrote: > someone recently enquired about Marlborough Clarke Douglas, he was a member > of the Methodist community > in Carlow. > A plaque is erected to his memory on a wall inside the church on the Athy > Road. > He wrote a history of Carlow. > Pat Purcell inherited his research papers in 1924. > Marlborough wrote : > The precise interpretation of Catherlough (Carlow) raises the hackles among > otherwise amenable historians. Some state it means "Four-angled Lake", > others claim it translates as "Four Lakes". But the translation most > favoured is "Stone Fort on the Lake". > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >