Hello Kate, Thanks for writing in regard to the name Onaghan. That is how I found the surname "HOLOHAN" spelt in the Dunleckney baptisms. I've found it spelt many different ways but this was a new one. I would possibly have missed the entries if I hadn't spotted the wife's name....Anne Derenzy....spelt as Anne Darenzy in these entries. I knew it had to be the couple I was searching for. Isn't it strange how the spellings would be so different depending on who was writing things down. Wonder what the first name is for the fellow who went to Chicago? I know my Great-Grandfather had a number of brothers and as it was the time around the famine.....it wouldn't surprise me if one or more of them went to America. There were two Michael's born into this family...and a David, John and James as well. All the best, Pat in NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kate_Miller@ilnd.uscourts.gov> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:02 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Onaghan > Pat, > > FYI -- I'm always looking at an Onaghan/Nolan couple from Carlow who came > to Chicago as possibly connected to my Nolans from Myshall. Lots of info > on Onaghan in Chicago, as he was in the political arena with the board of > ed. > > > > Kate in Chicago >

Paper found in Ballon R.C. Register . Jacob Nowlan of Ravidon in the Parish of Wells, Barny of Idrone West, Carlow states that a servant maid named Margaret Haw lived in his house and in his employment in the Year 1840 as he believes between August and Christmas in said year. She served in his employment for about three months. during the said period a servant man named Hugh Neill, now present, also lived in his house, during that period no other servant man or labouring man lived in his house. Hugh Neill aforesaid is from the neighbourhood of Ballon in this county. He has since that time heard that the said Margaret Haw was delivered of a child and that he heard it was rumoured that Hugh Neill, now present, was the father of said child. Sworn before Hugh Faulkner at Ravindon, 24th November, 1841. (signed) Jacob Nowlan. Hugh Faulkner.

Recently Terry Curran has been very busy searching through some old American newspapers (On-Line) and found a large amount of information about Carlow activities between 1900 and 1910 which you can read at your leisure here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/carlow_1900.htm Each year has its own page (11 pages). http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/ Regard Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Some time ago we asked for some help in completing the 1929 Commercial Directory. This week Claire Ward came to the rescue and provided the missing pages which you can view here: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/MacDonalds_1929_01.htm Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Thanks to Alan McGrath here is the next set of marriage records: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/marriages_carlow_05.htm Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm --------------------------------------------------

Pat, FYI -- I'm always looking at an Onaghan/Nolan couple from Carlow who came to Chicago as possibly connected to my Nolans from Myshall. Lots of info on Onaghan in Chicago, as he was in the political arena with the board of ed. Kate in Chicago

Hello Brian and the List, I just came across a family member in the Dunleckney Baptisms for 1843. It is showing ? for the first name.....wonder if you would most kindly check it again and see if you can make anything out. 16 July 1843.......? Onaghan...........James Onaghan and Ann Darenzy.....sponsors..John Doyle and Mary Quigley.........other child...24 Apr 1841. This is my James Holohan and Ann Derenzy (with many, many variants) Hoping you can 'have another go at' the first name of this baby. Any help will be appreciated very much. Many Thanks and Best regards, Pat Zipf

Pat - I have to tell you that when there is a question mark or an illegible mark it usually means I have done the best I could. In most cases where the film is obscured I enlarge it, photocopy it, and then take it home where I tape the photocopies together and then connect the dots with pentel pen. I am aware that you follow my work because you have been so kind to thank me in the past. So I will try again next time I go to the FHC, but I am not optimistic. You may be able to deduce the child's name by checking with familysearchlabs.com, etc. brian --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Pat Zipf <patzipf@verizon.net> wrote: From: Pat Zipf <patzipf@verizon.net> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] BRian Walsh - request for recheck To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 6:46 PM Hello Brian and the List, I just came across a family member in the Dunleckney Baptisms for 1843.  It is showing ? for the first name.....wonder if you would most kindly check it again and see if you can make anything out. 16 July 1843.......? Onaghan...........James Onaghan and Ann Darenzy.....sponsors..John Doyle and Mary Quigley.........other child...24 Apr 1841.  This is my James Holohan and Ann Derenzy (with many, many variants)  Hoping you can 'have another go at' the first name of this baby.  Any help will be appreciated very much.  Many Thanks and Best regards, Pat Zipf ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No connections, Betty. I am looking for a Garrett Joyce who emigrated to New York City. Just fishing as he has eluded me forever! Thanks for replying. Deb DEBORAH LARGE FOX Read my blog for Irish research tips: "Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors!" http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com

As per suggestions from PP (below) the headings have now been changed on the Marriage and Baptism records Marriages - http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/marriages_carlow_03.htm Baptisms - http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/Baptisms_Extracts_01.htm Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm -------------------------------------------------- > 7. Re: Carlow Marriages extracts 1769-1779 (CARLOMAN2) > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:37:23 +0100 > From: CARLOMAN2 <carloman2@eircom.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Marriages extracts 1769-1779 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <w2zc7b57fc11004112337q70327e6bueb0400c9c79efc81@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Well done to Alan, Michael Purcell & Michael Brennan however I think > the heading should explain that the Church was named St. Mary's at > that time and we should also indicate that these are Roman Catholic > and not Anglican Baptisms & Marriages. Thus avoiding confusion with St > Marys C of I records. > > The use of the name St Mary's was changed after 1950 ( the date on > the statue over the Cathedral door) as.... > "On November 1, 1950, the Feast of All Saints, Pope Pius XII declared > as a dogma revealed by God that "Mary, the immaculate perpetually > Virgin Mother of God, after the completion of her earthly life, was > assumed body and soul into the glory of Heaven". > > Can anyone confirm this ? > > Regards > > PP

Deborah, My great-grandfather, Matthew JOYCE (b. 1807, s/o Patrick JOYCE and Nancy CLOVEN) married 1st in 1828 to Mary DALTON who died in 1847; married 2nd in 1848 to Mary FARRELL. They had two children in Ballyroughan, Borris Parish, County Carlow in 1849 and 1850, and then immigrated to USA in 1852. The next child was born in Rochester, NY in 1853. By 1854, the family had settled in Kewanee, Henry Co., IL where the 3 youngest children were born. Twenty years later, they moved to Maryville, Nodaway Co., MO where they lived until January 1899 when both Matthew and Mary died. Do you see any possible connections? Betty

The marriage cert for my g.grandparents in 1866 lists the marriage as taking place in the Catholic Chapel at Carlow. Regina -----Original Message----- From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Apr 12, 2010 7:31 am Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow Marriages extracts 1769-1779 >From circa 600 there was St. Mary's Abbey on Castle Hill in the area adjoining where the Boot Factory was built in 1906.... ...the present-day St. Mary's Church is the Church of Ireland building alongside Castle Street........... from Penal times there was a Roman Catholic chapel also called St. Mary's near Shirley's Garage on the Dublin Road ........in 1787 Dean Staunton built a church , again known as St. Mary's, where the Cathedral now stands............in 1828 the foundation stone was laid for the Cathedral.......part of the old Staunton church was incorporated into the new structure........ I recall Aidan Murray telling us that the Bishop's seat was in Tullow prior to that,........... where the bishop's seat is placed is called "cathedral" so I guess Tullow church would have been Cathedral up to 1833!... ...Carlow Cathedral opened 1833...... On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Peter Walker at gmail < 2peterwalker@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Michael > I was concerned because I had come across references to St Mary's and > assumed it was C of I. > As a matter of interest was the old church in the 1700s a Cathedral ? > I assume the Cathedral at Old Leilghlin was the bishops seat before > the reformation. > > Regards > > PP > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From circa 600 there was St. Mary's Abbey on Castle Hill in the area adjoining where the Boot Factory was built in 1906.... ...the present-day St. Mary's Church is the Church of Ireland building alongside Castle Street........... from Penal times there was a Roman Catholic chapel also called St. Mary's near Shirley's Garage on the Dublin Road ........in 1787 Dean Staunton built a church , again known as St. Mary's, where the Cathedral now stands............in 1828 the foundation stone was laid for the Cathedral.......part of the old Staunton church was incorporated into the new structure........ I recall Aidan Murray telling us that the Bishop's seat was in Tullow prior to that,........... where the bishop's seat is placed is called "cathedral" so I guess Tullow church would have been Cathedral up to 1833!... ...Carlow Cathedral opened 1833...... On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Peter Walker at gmail < 2peterwalker@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Michael > I was concerned because I had come across references to St Mary's and > assumed it was C of I. > As a matter of interest was the old church in the 1700s a Cathedral ? > I assume the Cathedral at Old Leilghlin was the bishops seat before > the reformation. > > Regards > > PP > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Peter Walker at gmail < 2peterwalker@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Michael > I was concerned because I had come across references to St Mary's and > assumed it was C of I. > As a matter of interest was the old church in the 1700s a Cathedral ? > I assume the Cathedral at Old Leilghlin was the bishops seat before > the reformation. > > Regards > > PP > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Michael I was concerned because I had come across references to St Mary's and assumed it was C of I. As a matter of interest was the old church in the 1700s a Cathedral ? I assume the Cathedral at Old Leilghlin was the bishops seat before the reformation. Regards PP

Good point...I attempted to explain this at the outset of the Transcribing project....but today the Registers are referred to as Carlow Cathedral Registers and are so named on the spine in Gold Leaf. To avoid confusion it may be best keep that title combined with Roman Catholic, although I prefer to call them Carlow Town R.C. Registers. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:37 AM, CARLOMAN2 <carloman2@eircom.net> wrote: > Well done to Alan, Michael Purcell & Michael Brennan however I think > the heading should explain that the Church was named St. Mary's at > that time and we should also indicate that these are Roman Catholic > and not Anglican Baptisms & Marriages. Thus avoiding confusion with St > Marys C of I records. > > The use of the name St Mary's was changed after 1950 ( the date on > the statue over the Cathedral door) as.... > "On November 1, 1950, the Feast of All Saints, Pope Pius XII declared > as a dogma revealed by God that "Mary, the immaculate perpetually > Virgin Mother of God, after the completion of her earthly life, was > assumed body and soul into the glory of Heaven". > > Can anyone confirm this ? > > Regards > > PP > > > > > On 11 April 2010 20:08, Michael Brennan <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote: > > Alan McGrath has completed and supplied the Carlow Marriage extracts for > > 1769-1779. > > > > To view: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/marriages_carlow_03.htm > > > > Regards > > > > Michael Brennan > > > > Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > > My Laois Page: > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > > > > ======================================= > > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > > --------------------------------------- > > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Betty, You have JOYCE mentioned as one of your research interests. When did your Joyce family leave Ireland and where did they settle? Deb DEBORAH LARGE FOX Read my blog for Irish research tips: "Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors!" http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com

Well done to Alan, Michael Purcell & Michael Brennan however I think the heading should explain that the Church was named St. Mary's at that time and we should also indicate that these are Roman Catholic and not Anglican Baptisms & Marriages. Thus avoiding confusion with St Marys C of I records. The use of the name St Mary's was changed after 1950 ( the date on the statue over the Cathedral door) as.... "On November 1, 1950, the Feast of All Saints, Pope Pius XII declared as a dogma revealed by God that "Mary, the immaculate perpetually Virgin Mother of God, after the completion of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into the glory of Heaven". Can anyone confirm this ? Regards PP On 11 April 2010 20:08, Michael Brennan <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Alan McGrath has completed and supplied the Carlow Marriage extracts for > 1769-1779. > > To view: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/marriages_carlow_03.htm > > Regards > > Michael Brennan > > Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com  with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well done Alan , a great job...I have noticed that you have entered "at McGernons" in 1779 Transcripts, I believe that should read "at Mr Gernons" he was Parish Priest at the time ...easy to mistake as the entries are not very readable, he appears to have left the job of recording many of the marriages and baptisms in the Register to his housekeeper or assistant, who had atrocious handwriting and recording methods but could certainly keep a tot on the figures.... On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Michael Brennan <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk > wrote: > Alan McGrath has completed and supplied the Carlow Marriage extracts for > 1769-1779. > > To view: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/marriages_carlow_03.htm > > Regards > > Michael Brennan > > Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Alan McGrath has completed and supplied the Carlow Marriage extracts for 1769-1779. To view: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/marriages_carlow_03.htm Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm