Ha! It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that my great-grandfather changed his name because of a dispute with someone else in the family. I've taken a quick look at the website, but haven't really studied it yet. Thanks. Maurice -----Original Message----- From: Cummings, Michael <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. Mick...not Purcell ichael J. Cummings, Director lbany County Civil Service 12 State Street lbany, New York 12207 18-447-4802 _______________________________________ rom: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll tart digging around my notes. ue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ---- Original Message ----- rom: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM ubject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina -sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or umming..(even Cummins ?), explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can ive. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, ======================================= efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to he List. Its FREE! -------------------------------------- o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) n the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message Confidentiality Notice: This fax/e-mail transmission, with accompanying ecords, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain onfidential and/or privileged information belonging to the sender, including individually dentifiable health information subject to the privacy and security provisions of HIPAA. This information may e protected by pertinent privilege(s), e.g., attorney-client, doctor-patient, HIPAA etc., hich will be enforced to the fullest extent of the law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are ereby notified that any examination, analysis, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution, haring, or use of the information in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received his message and associated documents in error, please notify the sender immediately for nstructions. If this message was received by e-mail, please delete the original message. ======================================= efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to he List. Its FREE! -------------------------------------- o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) n the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Mike, Patrick was Roman Catholic. He and Mary Elizabeth were married at St. Patrick's Church in Baltimore, and their children were all raised Catholic. That was passed through more generations, so that I'm Catholic too. When I first arrived in North Carolina in 1966, we were an exotic species. The former chairman of the chemistry department at UNC asked me what church I attended, and of course I told him I was Catholic. His eyes widened, and he smiled a big smile, and said, "Really? I'm Episcopalian!!! I think that meant we were two peas in a pod, in the middle of the Bible Belt. Then he thought a moment and said, "Dr. Cameron was Catholic. He came in 1926." And that implied that I was the next Catholic on the chemistry department faculty! Maurice

Thank you Sue, Maurice should be making contact later ....I believe he might be from the Cumming / Cumen branch, there is a lot of data on them in the PPP, (if I ever get back to them !!.)..... On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM, <sneirish@comcast.net> wrote: > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to > me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the > meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. > Sue > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > Cumming..(even Cummins ?), > I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful too! I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you have already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through Patrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also named Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, Coleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA.

As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that are broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! Most of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the routine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone off to God knows where never to be heard from again. Mick...not Purcell Michael J. Cummings, Director Albany County Civil Service 112 State Street Albany, New York 12207 518-447-4802 ________________________________________ From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. Sue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or Cumming..(even Cummins ?), I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Confidentiality Notice: This fax/e-mail transmission, with accompanying records, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information belonging to the sender, including individually identifiable health information subject to the privacy and security provisions of HIPAA. This information may be protected by pertinent privilege(s), e.g., attorney-client, doctor-patient, HIPAA etc., which will be enforced to the fullest extent of the law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, analysis, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution, sharing, or use of the information in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message and associated documents in error, please notify the sender immediately for instructions. If this message was received by e-mail, please delete the original message.

By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. Sue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or Cumming..(even Cummins ?), I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List,

We are so lucky to have access to these records however it is worth bearing in mind that the recorder of the original record in the register sometimes spelt the name as it sounded and not as we spell it today. EG: Dowzer, Dowser, Dowzard all recorded by the same clergyman; and he was educated at TCD. So you need to look at a variety of spellings when searching. Burges, Burgess for the same couple in the Tullow records to name another one. If you just bring up the Tullow or anyother register and just scroll through the entries you will see howover time the spellings of the same name can vary. I have also discovered there are a number of entries which I have previously recorded from the Register which are missing from the latest internet data base which is a shame but understandable for such a huge task. It is a very good idea to look at the original record available and what a privilage to actually have access to these orignal records. I travelled to Dublin especially look at some of these parish registers and now they are available on the internet!! What progress in 10 years. Imagine what the next ten years will bring us. The Carlow Newspapers for one!!! Although I was told it would be June 2010 it now seems it will be 2011 all going well. I can't wait as I have already found some great information in the papers I looked at on mirco film at the Carlow Library. Happy hunting. Susie

By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or Cumming..(even Cummins ?), I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, Mr. Michael Purcell, P.C. Kennedy Street Carlow Ireland 17th June 2010. Dear Mr. Purcell: I learned of your willingness to perform genealogical research in County Carlow and the surrounding area from a list at the website of the National Library of Ireland. For decades I have been trying to find Irish records of my great-grandfather, Patrick James (or James Patrick) Comen, who told his grandchildren that he was from Carlow. In our family Bible we have an unattributed date of 4 April 1848 written by itself, which may be his date of birth. He came to America near the end of the American Civil War, as nearly as I can establish, became an American citizen with his father-in-law as witness, spent the rest of his life in Baltimore, Maryland, and died in 1920. I can tell you about my unsuccessful attempts to learn more about him. First, beginning in 1958, the family has made four trips to Carlow Town. On the first trip, we learned that there are no longer (if there ever were) Comens/Comans in Carlow Town, and that the family removed to Tipperary long ago. On the last, in 2006, I engaged the Carlow genealogical centre, which seemed to consist of a small group of young people in front of personal computers in an upstairs office in the centre of town; after several months, they admitted they had had no success, but sent me copies of their findings, records of a few persons named Comen or Coman (but not Patrick James), but none born within fifteen years of what I think might have been his year of birth, 1848. Second, I have scoured the Internet for information, but have come up empty-handed. It occurred to me that Patrick James Comen’s story of his origins might be somewhat creative, since I had no replies from persons whom I thought would likely be relatives. On the other hand, my aunt remembered that he spoke often of the Barrow and “another river,” which I would guess would be the Burren. Another possibility is that his name changed to Comen from something else aboard the ship that brought him to America. I should very much appreciate your assistance on undertaking what could be done next, and am happy to pay you reasonable fees. I had thought of writing every parish that existed in County Carlow in about 1845 and asking to see the records of baptisms. I was going to inquire of each parish if records show any families named Comen or Coman with children baptised in the 1830s, 1840s, or 1850s in the parish; or, if my suspicion that he changed his name holds water, if any families at all had a boy by the name of Patrick James (or James Patrick) baptised there in 1848. But I hesitate, because of the difficulty in finding all the parishes. If you would be interested in solving my mystery – and perhaps even suggesting other approaches that did not involve such brute force (but recalling that the genalogical centre had no luck) – I would be delighted, and happy to engage your services. Yours truly, Maurice

Have you ever considered that the Irish were buried great distances from where they lived, Some folk lived in Dublin and were returned to Carlow to be buried and I am not talking about yesterday, I am talking on the mid 1800's etc. A wife can be found buried within her parents parish and not within her husbands parish, same must apply to males who died somewhere distant from where you seek them. There is any amount of reasons that a person is not necessarily buried in the closest cemtery to where they died, and depending on time frame, regulations on the church etc, you may even find them in mixed graveyards And yes my own data base has flaws, but my weathered old brow, has done a lot of research in Irish Burial books, registers and headstones and my knowledge has been hard earned. So please do consider when looking for Irish people they are not all buried exactly as we wish, in the graveyard closest to the farm etc. Its a case of yes the last piece of the puzzle is the hardest to find sometimes in Irish research And while I am at it I may as well ask the age old question What was the name of the Graveyard - someone may be able to define where it is or was from even a few clues. Cheers and Goodnight >From Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Fox" <deborahlargefox@gmail.com> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:01 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] records accuracy question > Michael mentioned the 80% accuracy record for the COI transcriptions. > Is there any idea of what types of errors were common? Or were they just > all > shapes and sizes? I ask because I have a gotten a record from that > database > with a very unusual entry that I believe is an error, but I can't imagine > how it was made--a burial in a specific cemetery is listed, but that > cemetery is rather far from the deceased's home or church. So for years, > I > have been hunting for clues concerning that cemetery, to finally conclude > it > was written in error. > I know that any database is riddled with mistakes (I even make them > when jotting down notes from records), but, boy, those mistakes can send > us > researchers down the wrong path and cost us days and years of work! Deb > Deborah Large Fox Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors! > http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2955 - Release Date: 06/22/10 16:36:00

Terry Curran has provided us with another interesting document on the Bagenalstown Relief Committee dated 1846. Please view at: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/Bagenalstown_1846.htm One or two of the names were difficult to transcribe so if you think there are any errors please let me know so I can correct them. Kind Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

I certainly did not mean to cast any dispersion on the database, or the people who worked on it, and just wanted to make sure no one on the list read my message that way. As I said in my post, I myself make mistakes when I take notes, so I would not fault anyone for that. I am thankful for any and all efforts when people or organizations put databases online. I would certainly rather have one with imperfections than none at all. I am thrilled to see these records online and I appreciate all the hard work that went into it! Deb Deborah Large Fox Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors! http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com

Deborah, Have no fear where I am concerned...I didn't read your post in a negative way at all. I know what you mean when you say that having these records online is great...I cannot imagine how much work it would take to uncover all this data without all these electronic databases. I wouldn't have the stamina to battle all of THOSE dust bunnies! Joann Taylor On 6/22/2010 4:10 PM, Deborah Fox wrote: > I certainly did not mean to cast any dispersion on the database, or the > people who worked on it, and just wanted to make sure no one on the list > read my message that way. As I said in my post, I myself make mistakes when > I take notes, so I would not fault anyone for that. I am thankful for any > and all efforts when people or organizations put databases online. I would > certainly rather have one with imperfections than none at all. I am thrilled > to see these records online and I appreciate all the hard work that went > into it! Deb > Deborah Large Fox Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors! > http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I agree - transcribers have a very difficult job and after working on some of the databases for FamilySearch.com, I can tell you that it isn't easy - even if the records are in your native tongue. Penmanship is probably the biggest problem but you have deterioration of paper records or poor imaging on film or deterioration of film that renders stuff next to impossible to decipher. Also, way back when, I don't think people were thinking about long term archiveability, so proper steps were not always taken to keep the records in readable shape. Also, they want you to work really hard not to infer intent but to transcribe. This allows people over time to interpret what was written and the written word is not lost to the ages - even if it might have an error within. When you are looking at records here in the US, you can add an inability to spell, or even a foreign person speaking to an English-speaking census taker and you have all sorts of ways that errors and miscommunications can be inserted into data. It can be mind numbing. I pity the poor folks looking at the US Census 72 years from now... While they will likely be able to read it, there was no real information in it at all - at least not the form I filled out. :-( Joann Taylor On 6/22/2010 12:49 PM, Sharon Oddie Brown wrote: > My sympathies are totally with the transcribers. In some instances the > original handwriting makes your eyes want to fall out of your head. It > would be less painful than rying to decode the intent of the original. > Sharon > Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: > http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: > http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > On 22/06/2010 10:30 AM, JackLangton@aol.com wrote: > >> I know that Carlow town had, and perhaps still has, hundreds of students >> taking courses every year who come from many different countries. Just a >> thought: would they perhaps have been asked to volunteer in transcribing the >> various records? If so, these well-intentioned young people might have had a >> hard time reading and analyzing the loops and the swoops, the unfamiliar >> terms, and the myriad of posers that one runs into in even one page of >> records. And even the Irish students might have had difficulties. >> >> Jack Langton >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I know that Carlow town had, and perhaps still has, hundreds of students taking courses every year who come from many different countries. Just a thought: would they perhaps have been asked to volunteer in transcribing the various records? If so, these well-intentioned young people might have had a hard time reading and analyzing the loops and the swoops, the unfamiliar terms, and the myriad of posers that one runs into in even one page of records. And even the Irish students might have had difficulties. Jack Langton

My sympathies are totally with the transcribers. In some instances the original handwriting makes your eyes want to fall out of your head. It would be less painful than rying to decode the intent of the original. Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl On 22/06/2010 10:30 AM, JackLangton@aol.com wrote: > I know that Carlow town had, and perhaps still has, hundreds of students > taking courses every year who come from many different countries. Just a > thought: would they perhaps have been asked to volunteer in transcribing the > various records? If so, these well-intentioned young people might have had a > hard time reading and analyzing the loops and the swoops, the unfamiliar > terms, and the myriad of posers that one runs into in even one page of > records. And even the Irish students might have had difficulties. > > Jack Langton > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Michael mentioned the 80% accuracy record for the COI transcriptions. Is there any idea of what types of errors were common? Or were they just all shapes and sizes? I ask because I have a gotten a record from that database with a very unusual entry that I believe is an error, but I can't imagine how it was made--a burial in a specific cemetery is listed, but that cemetery is rather far from the deceased's home or church. So for years, I have been hunting for clues concerning that cemetery, to finally conclude it was written in error. I know that any database is riddled with mistakes (I even make them when jotting down notes from records), but, boy, those mistakes can send us researchers down the wrong path and cost us days and years of work! Deb Deborah Large Fox Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors! http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com

When in doubt, click on the hyperlink of the record and it will connect you to more description and at the bottom of that is a link to the scan of the actual record. I found that increasing the size of the actual record to about 75% worked best for reading it on my screen and the error late was probably lower than in the materials that I generate :-) . Occasionally, the described event does not appear on the linked page because the transcriber linked it to the wrong record. There is often a way around that. What I did then was to note the url of the incorrect page as well as the date of the records that were on that page. Then I changed the url to reference a page before or after - depending on the date of the record I was seeking. For example, if I had the following page: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/c-125-3-1-005.pdf and it was incorrect, then I might try changing the last number from 5 to 6. Usually then I was good to go. If there is a place to send notice of such errors, I missed it. Sharon PS In the next day or so, I will be posting dozens of pages of Carlow-JACKSON materials that I have been assembling. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl On 22/06/2010 6:01 AM, Deborah Fox wrote: > Michael mentioned the 80% accuracy record for the COI transcriptions. > Is there any idea of what types of errors were common? Or were they just all > shapes and sizes? I ask because I have a gotten a record from that database > with a very unusual entry that I believe is an error, but I can't imagine > how it was made--a burial in a specific cemetery is listed, but that > cemetery is rather far from the deceased's home or church. So for years, I > have been hunting for clues concerning that cemetery, to finally conclude it > was written in error. > I know that any database is riddled with mistakes (I even make them > when jotting down notes from records), but, boy, those mistakes can send us > researchers down the wrong path and cost us days and years of work! Deb > Deborah Large Fox Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors! > http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I should point out again that the Church of Ireland, St. Mary's Parish (Carlow town), records may only achieve approx. 80% accuracy level , due to emphasis on Computer Training for early school-leavers at the time of transcribing in the 1990s. The Baptism / Marriage / Death aspect of the project was poorly supervised at the time. The records should only be considered a finding aid for researchers, however the writing is much clearer in the Ch. of Ire. registers so should have resulted in easier reading and deciphering of entries. Unfortunately the same could not be claimed for the Roman Catholic registers, hence there is a much higher % of errors in the transcribing process relating to them, I think they should be on-line soon, mick

Hello all, I am trying to find information including BMD of the Adams family that lived on Burren Street in carlow in the 1800's. I bekllieve they had a business there. I have tried the UK census but all I get is England "Adams" nothing about Ireland and Carlow in particular. I think my g-g-grandmother Eliza Adams daughter of John Adams of Carlow might be connected with that family. Her father was said to have been a Captain in the military in 1800. The only one I could find running through all the Carlow Church records that just came on file was a John Adams, Captain, Royal Navy who married an Elizabeth Ellis on April 22, 1846. His father was Allen Noble Adams and hers was Henry Ellis. But they were married in St. George Church (Cof i) in Dublin. I've tried putting their names into Ancestry.com but just get "no results found". Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Michelle W.

Freeman's Journal, Dublin, October 22, 1859 Marriages. October 13, in KILMEAGUE, George H Halpin, Esq, M.D., Wicklow, to Eliza, only daughter of the late Henry BRADLEY, Esq, of BOOLDEROUGH, county Carlow. The bride was given away by Wilson Simmonds, Esq of Grouse Lodge. (My caps.) Anything known of these people or places please? Bill