Two questions: Are there on line maps that anyone has found for the Barony of Forth? Secondly, was this Barony known under another name at any time? I am trying to figure out what townland and parish might have been a likely place for a JACKSON who supposedly had lands at Mt. Leinster. There is one possibility in Griffiths in the townland of Craans, Parish of Ardone where a Thomas JACKSON leased from the Representatives of the Rt. Hon John DOHERTY. It was 27 acres and not much to brag about in terms of buildings. Ta, Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

Maribeth Nolan has sent us a fantastic photo of a large group of people (70+) nearly all standing on a Barge. See: Boating Trip (2nd image from the bottom) http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/Graiguecullen_images_2.htm The look on all their faces; not a single smile. Was this just a photo shoot or did they all pile on the boat and go on a trip down the Barrow? Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Hello, My husband, Dan Duffy, says her name is familiar. He was 1960 grad of Creighton Prep and CU and CU law school in 1966. I went to Duchesne College. My Mercy friends were Mary Ellen Bizzari, Janet Capazo, Mary Ann Cavanaugh and many more. Fun to meet people online. Maybe we're even related! Judy Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 5:28 PM, irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > When replying to a message in digest, please don't forget to change the subject and delete all parts of the digest not related to your message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 (mauricebursey@aol.com) > 2. Michael who? (Michael Brennan) > 3. Re: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 (mackey549@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 13:07:33 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE2A00984F7EA-1394-D83C@webmail-m100.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Judy, > > Thanks. I'll try to track down references to Borris on the website. > > The main reason for writing back to you is that my wife Joan is from Omaha. Her maiden name is Tesarek. She graduated from Mercy High in 1961, from Creighton U. in 1965, and completed her PhD at Berkeley in 1969. Then she came to work with me on a postdoctoral appointment, but as my friends told me, I found a permanent position for her at the end of 1970, when we were married. So it will be 40 years for us at the end of December. I am retired from UNC (for health reaons originally, but they have been overcome) and she is still working. at EPA in the Research Triangle Park. > > Maurice > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Duffy <judyduffy@aol.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 11:50 am > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 > > > My Borris relatives are Cowmans. You might look there. > udy Duffy in Omaha, NE. > Sent from my iPad > On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:00 AM, irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> > > When replying to a message in digest, please don't forget to change the > ubject and delete all parts of the digest not related to your message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (michael purcell) > 2. Patrick James Comen (mauricebursey@aol.com) > 3. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (Cummings, Michael) > 4. Re: Patrick James Comen (michael purcell) > 5. Patrick James Comen's religion (mauricebursey@aol.com) > 6. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (mauricebursey@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:48:21 +0100 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTilot0ohvAxfdRfqrmNvMq6T1WG6Ux_yPA8w_U6n@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thank you Sue, > Maurice should be making contact later ....I believe he might be from the > Cumming / Cumen branch, there is a lot of data on them in the PPP, (if I > ever get back to them !!.)..... > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM, <sneirish@comcast.net> wrote: > >> By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to >> me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the >> meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. >> Sue >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> >> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... >> >> By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina >> --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or >> Cumming..(even Cummins ?), >> I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can >> give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe >> to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:12:01 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE1D77EF4862A-1670-C6F6@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful > oo! > > I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you > ave already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through > atrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also > amed Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, > oleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:34:41 -0400 > From: "Cummings, Michael" <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > To: "irl-carlow@rootsweb.com" <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <C9C1C09C8DE8D8429576D029F3D7E29A0108D19ACE@ACMBX1.albanycounty.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that > re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! > ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the > outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone > ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. > > Mick...not Purcell > > > Michael J. Cummings, Director > Albany County Civil Service > 112 State Street > Albany, New York 12207 > 518-447-4802 > ________________________________________ > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me > irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll > tart digging around my notes. > Sue > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > Cumming..(even Cummins ?), > I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to > he List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) > n the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > Confidentiality Notice: This fax/e-mail transmission, with accompanying > ecords, is intended only for > the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > onfidential and/or > privileged information belonging to the sender, including individually > dentifiable health information > subject to the privacy and security provisions of HIPAA. This information may > e protected by > pertinent privilege(s), e.g., attorney-client, doctor-patient, HIPAA etc., > hich will be enforced to > the fullest extent of the law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are > ereby notified that any > examination, analysis, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution, > haring, or use of the > information in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received > his message and > associated documents in error, please notify the sender immediately for > nstructions. If this message > was received by e-mail, please delete the original message. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:06:54 +0100 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimP7fBYNyedZ4kTwKlIl6uzqnUVe3dyhxM5G8en@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > thanks Maurice, any idea what religion PJ was ? > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM, <mauricebursey@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> >> I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful >> too! >> >> I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you >> have already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through >> Patrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also >> named Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, >> Coleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. >> >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe >> to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:16:27 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen's religion > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE212C97CB5F9-20B8-124D5@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Mike, > > Patrick was Roman Catholic. He and Mary Elizabeth were married at St. > atrick's Church in Baltimore, and their children were all raised Catholic. That > as passed through more generations, so that I'm Catholic too. > > When I first arrived in North Carolina in 1966, we were an exotic species. The > ormer chairman of the chemistry department at UNC asked me what church I > ttended, and of course I told him I was Catholic. His eyes widened, and he > miled a big smile, and said, "Really? I'm Episcopalian!!! I think that meant we > ere two peas in a pod, in the middle of the Bible Belt. > > Then he thought a moment and said, "Dr. Cameron was Catholic. He came in > 926." And that implied that I was the next Catholic on the chemistry department > aculty! > > Maurice > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:20:46 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE2136457AA47-20B8-1256D@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Ha! It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that my great-grandfather changed > is name because of a dispute with someone else in the family. > > I've taken a quick look at the website, but haven't really studied it yet. > hanks. > > Maurice > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cummings, Michael <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > > As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that >> re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! > ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the > outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends > omeone > ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. > Mick...not Purcell > > ichael J. Cummings, Director > lbany County Civil Service > 12 State Street > lbany, New York 12207 > 18-447-4802 > _______________________________________ > rom: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] > ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM > o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me >> irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll >> tart digging around my notes. > ue > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > ubject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > -sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > umming..(even Cummins ?), > explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > ive. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > ======================================= > efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to > he List. Its FREE! > -------------------------------------- > o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) >> n the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > Confidentiality Notice: This fax/e-mail transmission, with accompanying > ecords, is intended only for > the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > onfidential and/or > privileged information belonging to the sender, including individually > dentifiable health information > subject to the privacy and security provisions of HIPAA. This information may > e protected by > pertinent privilege(s), e.g., attorney-client, doctor-patient, HIPAA etc., > hich will be enforced to > the fullest extent of the law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are > ereby notified that any > examination, analysis, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution, > haring, or use of the > information in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received > his message and > associated documents in error, please notify the sender immediately for > nstructions. If this message > was received by e-mail, please delete the original message. > > ======================================= > efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to > he List. Its FREE! > -------------------------------------- > o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) >> n the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to > RL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 > ****************************************** > ======================================= > efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to > he List. Its FREE! > -------------------------------------- > o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) > n the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:05:54 +0100 > From: "Michael Brennan" <mb006r9209@blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Michael who? > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <7C5CB9825F8947FAA63B7DF0351A18C3@MichaelBPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Dear All > > With so many 'Mick's' on the list and to avoid confusion it might be an > idea to refer to us as: > Michael P. (Michael Purcell). > Michael C. (Michael J. Cummins) > Michael B. (Michael Brennan) > > > Regards > > Michael Brennan > Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:27:30 -0400 > From: mackey549@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE2CCBBC81234-11B0-BED0@webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I found Cowmans in Barragh, Cranemore, Co. Carlow, while looking for my Devereaux and Farrell relatives. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Duffy <judyduffy@aol.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 11:50 am > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 > > > My Borris relatives are Cowmans. You might look there. > udy Duffy in Omaha, NE. > Sent from my iPad > On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:00 AM, irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> > > When replying to a message in digest, please don't forget to change the > ubject and delete all parts of the digest not related to your message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (michael purcell) > 2. Patrick James Comen (mauricebursey@aol.com) > 3. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (Cummings, Michael) > 4. Re: Patrick James Comen (michael purcell) > 5. Patrick James Comen's religion (mauricebursey@aol.com) > 6. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (mauricebursey@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:48:21 +0100 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTilot0ohvAxfdRfqrmNvMq6T1WG6Ux_yPA8w_U6n@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thank you Sue, > Maurice should be making contact later ....I believe he might be from the > Cumming / Cumen branch, there is a lot of data on them in the PPP, (if I > ever get back to them !!.)..... > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM, <sneirish@comcast.net> wrote: > >> By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to >> me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the >> meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. >> Sue >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> >> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... >> >> By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina >> --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or >> Cumming..(even Cummins ?), >> I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can >> give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe >> to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:12:01 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE1D77EF4862A-1670-C6F6@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful > oo! > > I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you > ave already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through > atrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also > amed Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, > oleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:34:41 -0400 > From: "Cummings, Michael" <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > To: "irl-carlow@rootsweb.com" <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <C9C1C09C8DE8D8429576D029F3D7E29A0108D19ACE@ACMBX1.albanycounty.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that > re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! > ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the > outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone > ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. > > Mick...not Purcell > > > Michael J. Cummings, Director > Albany County Civil Service > 112 State Street > Albany, New York 12207 > 518-447-4802 > ________________________________________ > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me > irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll > tart digging around my notes. > Sue > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > Cumming..(even Cummins ?), > I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to > he List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) > n the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > Confidentiality Notice: This fax/e-mail transmission, with accompanying > ecords, is intended only for > the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > onfidential and/or > privileged information belonging to the sender, including individually > dentifiable health information > subject to the privacy and security provisions of HIPAA. This information may > e protected by > pertinent privilege(s), e.g., attorney-client, doctor-patient, HIPAA etc., > hich will be enforced to > the fullest extent of the law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are > ereby notified that any > examination, analysis, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution, > haring, or use of the > information in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received > his message and > associated documents in error, please notify the sender immediately for > nstructions. If this message > was received by e-mail, please delete the original message. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:06:54 +0100 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimP7fBYNyedZ4kTwKlIl6uzqnUVe3dyhxM5G8en@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > thanks Maurice, any idea what religion PJ was ? > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM, <mauricebursey@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> >> I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful >> too! >> >> I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you >> have already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through >> Patrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also >> named Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, >> Coleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. >> >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe >> to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:16:27 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen's religion > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE212C97CB5F9-20B8-124D5@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Mike, > > Patrick was Roman Catholic. He and Mary Elizabeth were married at St. > atrick's Church in Baltimore, and their children were all raised Catholic. That > as passed through more generations, so that I'm Catholic too. > > When I first arrived in North Carolina in 1966, we were an exotic species. The > ormer chairman of the chemistry department at UNC asked me what church I > ttended, and of course I told him I was Catholic. His eyes widened, and he > miled a big smile, and said, "Really? I'm Episcopalian!!! I think that meant we > ere two peas in a pod, in the middle of the Bible Belt. > > Then he thought a moment and said, "Dr. Cameron was Catholic. He came in > 926." And that implied that I was the next Catholic on the chemistry department > aculty! > > Maurice > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:20:46 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE2136457AA47-20B8-1256D@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Ha! It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that my great-grandfather changed > is name because of a dispute with someone else in the family. > > I've taken a quick look at the website, but haven't really studied it yet. > hanks. > > Maurice > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cummings, Michael <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > > As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that >> re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! > ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the > outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends > omeone > ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. > Mick...not Purcell > > ichael J. Cummings, Director > lbany County Civil Service > 12 State Street > lbany, New York 12207 > 18-447-4802 > _______________________________________ > rom: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] > ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM > o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me >> irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll >> tart digging around my notes. > ue > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > ubject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > -sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > umming..(even Cummins ?), > explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > ive. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > ======================================= > efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to > he List. Its FREE! > -------------------------------------- > o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) >> n the Subject box. 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Hi Maurice, I have been going through my files and notes and database of Carlow Cummins, Comen, etc. There are seemingly hundreds of Patricks who match the approximate birth date. We would need to have a bit more info to perhaps narrow it down. I looked at the census records where I could find him in Baltimore, and they indicate that he came to the US in 1862 and was naturalized in 1866. You have a copy of the naturalization papers - Was the only witness his father-in-law; usually there were two. Did he have any close associates or friends in Baltimore? It would not be unlikely that he went to live where previous relatives or neighbors had already immigrated and formed something of a community. In viewing the census records, I noted that his oldest son was named John. Irish tradition has it that generally the eldest son is named for the paternal grandfather. Do you know why the other researcher believes the father's name to be Patrick? In my own personal experience, most children baptized pre-famine in Ireland did not have a double forename, such as Patrick James. So I don't think it would help to look specifically and exclusively for that. I can tell you for sure that the CUMMINS who lived in Carlow Town did not ALL move away to Tipperary. They were still there well into the 1900s, and I believe there are still some living in the area. If the name was specifically restricted to Comen, then I cannot say for sure, as I don't think I have seen that specific name in Carlow town. At least one family of Cummins of Carlow town moved there from Tinryland, just to the north. But there are Cummins, Commins, Cowman, and an endless number of variations in every Catholic parish in Co. Carlow. If you have any information that might help to narrow the search, let me know. Since he was probably Catholic, I would leave the more obviously English spellings of Cummings and Cuming out of your search. Again from my own experience, it was unlikely that Patrick changed his surname on the ship. There are lots of misconceptions about that. It was generally done on arrival, and was much more common among non-English language immigrants. Although, granted some brogues were difficult to understand, Carlovians mostly spoke English, and the education level of the average Irish Catholic was quite good and most could read and write. If he did change his name it was more likely to escape or avoid some criminal charge, whether founded or not. Well, enough for now. Let me know if you can offer any other clarification. Sue Clement http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cummins/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mauricebursey@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:21 PM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... Ha! It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that my great-grandfather changed his name because of a dispute with someone else in the family. I've taken a quick look at the website, but haven't really studied it yet. Thanks. Maurice -----Original Message----- From: Cummings, Michael <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. Mick...not Purcell ichael J. Cummings, Director lbany County Civil Service 12 State Street lbany, New York 12207 18-447-4802 _______________________________________ rom: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll tart digging around my notes. ue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ---- Original Message ----- rom: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM ubject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina -sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or umming..(even Cummins ?), explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can ive. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, ======================================= efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to he List. Its FREE! -------------------------------------- o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) n the Subject box. 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To the Worshipful the Grand Jury for the County of Carlow. Sheweth: That memorialist having been professionally called upon by Two Magistrates of this county, attended an Inquest held upon view of the Body of a Female killed at Ballon on or about the 28th March last ~ Memorialist having opened and carefully examined the Body of said female has since been obliged to attend as a Witness at the assizes ~ Memorialist therefore prays your Worships may be pleased to grant him such compensation as you may deem meet ~ Andrew Nolan, Surgeon. July 29th 1824.

Previous email was not complete !. John Corrigan, of Garrettstown, Rathvilly, Gentleman and Receiver of rents, claims that he is owed 54 pounds, 10 shillings, "being four half Year's Rent" due under and by virture of an Indenture of Lease bearing date the 20th day of September 1830, by Thomas Davis on one part and Anne Cuming, Widow, William Cuming and Peter Chaigneau, Esquires, Trustees and Executors of the late Hugh Cuming for part of the Lands of Rickettestown formerly in the possession of John Hoare containing fifteen Acres or thereabouts Irish plantation measure be the same more or less. Sworn before me this day in open Court this 25th day of June 1847 at a General Quarter Session of the Peace, held at Tullow. (signed) Thomas Crawford Butler, Attorney for the Plaintiff. Henry Hutton, Assistant Barrister. John Corrigan, Rent Receiver. >From the PPP.

John Corrigan, of Garrettstown, Rathvilly, Gentleman and Receiver of rents, claims that he is owed 54 pounds, 10 shillings, "being four half Year's Rent" due under and by virture of an Indenture of Lease bearing date the 20th day of September 1830, by Thomas Davis on one part and Anne Cuming, Widow, William Cuming and Peter Chaigneau, Esquires, Trustees and Executors of the late Hugh Cuming for part of the Lands of Rickettestown formerly in the possession of John Hoare containing fifteen Acres or thereabouts Irish plantation measure be the same more or less. Sworn before me this day in open Court this 25th day of June 1847 at a General Quarter Session of the Peace, held at Tullow.

I believe this record relates to Hugh Cuming who was the business associate of Benajmin D'Israeli of Beechy Park, Rathvilly (purported uncle of the British Prime Minister). Hugh was also executor of Benjamin's estate, and lived in an adjoining estate to Beechy Park, called Bough. I haven't done any follow-up research to the origins or descendants of Hugh Cuming, as it is very unlikely he has any connection to my own Cummins family, but there is a brief write-up on my Cummins website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cummins/D%27IsraeliCuming. htm and a transcript of a deed where Hugh, as executor, sells Beechy Park to James Eustace. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cummins/Deed735-501319.htm >From the deed that Michael P. posted it appears Hugh had a wife Ann and a son William. Perhaps a check of the COI records now on-line might reveal some additional info. I believe I will add this document to the page on my site, to provide additional reference. Thanks as always, Michael P. Happy hunting, Sue -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 6:02 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Cuming Lease, Rathvilly John Corrigan, of Garrettstown, Rathvilly, Gentleman and Receiver of rents, claims that he is owed 54 pounds, 10 shillings, "being four half Year's Rent" due under and by virture of an Indenture of Lease bearing date the 20th day of September 1830, by Thomas Davis on one part and Anne Cuming, Widow, William Cuming and Peter Chaigneau, Esquires, Trustees and Executors of the late Hugh Cuming for part of the Lands of Rickettestown formerly in the possession of John Hoare containing fifteen Acres or thereabouts Irish plantation measure be the same more or less. Sworn before me this day in open Court this 25th day of June 1847 at a General Quarter Session of the Peace, held at Tullow. (signed) Thomas Crawford Butler, Attorney for the Plaintiff. Henry Hutton, Assistant Barrister. John Corrigan, Rent Receiver. >From the PPP.

Peter Chaigneau was grandson of Rev. David Chaigneau, priest of the Huguenot congreation, he died in Carlow in 1744. His great grandfather, Isaac Chaigeau is buried in the Huguenot graveyard on Merrion Row in Dublin. > From: sneirish@comcast.net > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 09:19:27 -0400 > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Cuming Lease, Rathvilly > > I believe this record relates to Hugh Cuming who was the business associate > of Benajmin D'Israeli of Beechy Park, Rathvilly (purported uncle of the > British Prime Minister). Hugh was also executor of Benjamin's estate, and > lived in an adjoining estate to Beechy Park, called Bough. I haven't done > any follow-up research to the origins or descendants of Hugh Cuming, as it > is very unlikely he has any connection to my own Cummins family, but there > is a brief write-up on my Cummins website > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cummins/D%27IsraeliCuming. > htm > > and a transcript of a deed where Hugh, as executor, sells Beechy Park to > James Eustace. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cummins/Deed735-501319.htm > > >From the deed that Michael P. posted it appears Hugh had a wife Ann and a > son William. Perhaps a check of the COI records now on-line might reveal > some additional info. > > I believe I will add this document to the page on my site, to provide > additional reference. Thanks as always, Michael P. > > Happy hunting, > Sue > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of michael purcell > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 6:02 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Cuming Lease, Rathvilly > > John Corrigan, of Garrettstown, Rathvilly, Gentleman and Receiver of rents, > claims that he is owed 54 pounds, 10 shillings, "being four half Year's > Rent" due under and by virture of an Indenture of Lease bearing date the > 20th day of September 1830, by Thomas Davis on one part and Anne Cuming, > Widow, William Cuming and Peter Chaigneau, Esquires, Trustees and Executors > of the late Hugh Cuming for part of the Lands of Rickettestown formerly in > the possession of John Hoare containing fifteen Acres or thereabouts Irish > plantation measure be the same more or less. Sworn before me this day in > open Court this 25th day of June 1847 at a General Quarter Session of the > Peace, held at Tullow. (signed) Thomas Crawford Butler, Attorney for the > Plaintiff. Henry Hutton, Assistant Barrister. John Corrigan, Rent Receiver. > >From the PPP. > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1

Brian Walsh has now started transcribing the Dunleckney Baptism records for 1844: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Baptism_Dunleckney_36.htm Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

All, especially mackey549: I'm a neophyte in tracking down Irish records. How should I approach tracking Cowman records in Barragh, Cranemore, Co. Carlow? Thanks. Maurice -----Original Message----- From: mackey549@aol.com To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:27 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 I found Cowmans in Barragh, Cranemore, Co. Carlow, while looking for my evereaux and Farrell relatives. -----Original Message----- rom: Judy Duffy <judyduffy@aol.com> o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> ent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 11:50 am ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 y Borris relatives are Cowmans. You might look there. dy Duffy in Omaha, NE. ent from my iPad n Jun 25, 2010, at 2:00 AM, irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com wrote: When replying to a message in digest, please don't forget to change the bject and delete all parts of the digest not related to your message. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (michael purcell) 2. Patrick James Comen (mauricebursey@aol.com) 3. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (Cummings, Michael) 4. Re: Patrick James Comen (michael purcell) 5. Patrick James Comen's religion (mauricebursey@aol.com) 6. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (mauricebursey@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:48:21 +0100 From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTilot0ohvAxfdRfqrmNvMq6T1WG6Ux_yPA8w_U6n@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you Sue, Maurice should be making contact later ....I believe he might be from the Cumming / Cumen branch, there is a lot of data on them in the PPP, (if I ever get back to them !!.)..... On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM, <sneirish@comcast.net> wrote: By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. Sue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or Cumming..(even Cummins ?), I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:12:01 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE1D77EF4862A-1670-C6F6@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful o! I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you ve already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through trick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also med Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, leman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:34:41 -0400 From: "Cummings, Michael" <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... To: "irl-carlow@rootsweb.com" <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C9C1C09C8DE8D8429576D029F3D7E29A0108D19ACE@ACMBX1.albanycounty.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that e broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! st of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the utine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone f to God knows where never to be heard from again. Mick...not Purcell Michael J. Cummings, Director Albany County Civil Service 112 State Street Albany, New York 12207 518-447-4802 ________________________________________ From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On half Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me rectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll art digging around my notes. Sue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or Cumming..(even Cummins ?), I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to e List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to L-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of e message Confidentiality Notice: This fax/e-mail transmission, with accompanying cords, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain nfidential and/or privileged information belonging to the sender, including individually entifiable health information subject to the privacy and security provisions of HIPAA. This information may protected by pertinent privilege(s), e.g., attorney-client, doctor-patient, HIPAA etc., ich will be enforced to the fullest extent of the law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are reby notified that any examination, analysis, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution, aring, or use of the information in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received is message and associated documents in error, please notify the sender immediately for structions. If this message was received by e-mail, please delete the original message. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:06:54 +0100 From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTimP7fBYNyedZ4kTwKlIl6uzqnUVe3dyhxM5G8en@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks Maurice, any idea what religion PJ was ? On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM, <mauricebursey@aol.com> wrote: I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful too! I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you have already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through Patrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also named Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, Coleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:16:27 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen's religion To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE212C97CB5F9-20B8-124D5@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mike, Patrick was Roman Catholic. He and Mary Elizabeth were married at St. trick's Church in Baltimore, and their children were all raised Catholic. That s passed through more generations, so that I'm Catholic too. When I first arrived in North Carolina in 1966, we were an exotic species. The rmer chairman of the chemistry department at UNC asked me what church I tended, and of course I told him I was Catholic. His eyes widened, and he iled a big smile, and said, "Really? I'm Episcopalian!!! I think that meant we re two peas in a pod, in the middle of the Bible Belt. Then he thought a moment and said, "Dr. Cameron was Catholic. He came in 26." And that implied that I was the next Catholic on the chemistry department culty! Maurice ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:20:46 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE2136457AA47-20B8-1256D@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ha! It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that my great-grandfather changed s name because of a dispute with someone else in the family. I've taken a quick look at the website, but haven't really studied it yet. anks. Maurice -----Original Message----- From: Cummings, Michael <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends meone ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. Mick...not Purcell ichael J. Cummings, Director lbany County Civil Service 12 State Street lbany, New York 12207 18-447-4802 _______________________________________ rom: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll > tart digging around my notes. ue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ---- Original Message ----- rom: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM ubject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina -sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or umming..(even Cummins ?), explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can ive. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, ======================================= efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to he List. Its FREE! -------------------------------------- o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) n the Subject box. 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Brian's hard work is much appreciated, even if I didn't find my ancestor there yet! Maurice Bursey -----Original Message----- From: Michael Brennan <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 4:51 pm Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Dunleckney Baptism records for 1844 Brian Walsh has now started transcribing the Dunleckney Baptism records for 844: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Baptism_Dunleckney_36.htm egards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ y Laois Page: ttp://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm ======================================= efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to he List. Its FREE! -------------------------------------- o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) n the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Dear All With so many 'Mick's' on the list and to avoid confusion it might be an idea to refer to us as: Michael P. (Michael Purcell). Michael C. (Michael J. Cummins) Michael B. (Michael Brennan) Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

I found Cowmans in Barragh, Cranemore, Co. Carlow, while looking for my Devereaux and Farrell relatives. -----Original Message----- From: Judy Duffy <judyduffy@aol.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 11:50 am Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 My Borris relatives are Cowmans. You might look there. udy Duffy in Omaha, NE. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:00 AM, irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > When replying to a message in digest, please don't forget to change the ubject and delete all parts of the digest not related to your message. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (michael purcell) 2. Patrick James Comen (mauricebursey@aol.com) 3. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (Cummings, Michael) 4. Re: Patrick James Comen (michael purcell) 5. Patrick James Comen's religion (mauricebursey@aol.com) 6. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (mauricebursey@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:48:21 +0100 From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTilot0ohvAxfdRfqrmNvMq6T1WG6Ux_yPA8w_U6n@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you Sue, Maurice should be making contact later ....I believe he might be from the Cumming / Cumen branch, there is a lot of data on them in the PPP, (if I ever get back to them !!.)..... On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM, <sneirish@comcast.net> wrote: > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to > me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the > meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. > Sue > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > Cumming..(even Cummins ?), > I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:12:01 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE1D77EF4862A-1670-C6F6@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful oo! I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you ave already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through atrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also amed Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, oleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:34:41 -0400 From: "Cummings, Michael" <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... To: "irl-carlow@rootsweb.com" <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C9C1C09C8DE8D8429576D029F3D7E29A0108D19ACE@ACMBX1.albanycounty.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. Mick...not Purcell Michael J. Cummings, Director Albany County Civil Service 112 State Street Albany, New York 12207 518-447-4802 ________________________________________ From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll tart digging around my notes. Sue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or Cumming..(even Cummins ?), I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to he List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) n the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message Confidentiality Notice: This fax/e-mail transmission, with accompanying ecords, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain onfidential and/or privileged information belonging to the sender, including individually dentifiable health information subject to the privacy and security provisions of HIPAA. This information may e protected by pertinent privilege(s), e.g., attorney-client, doctor-patient, HIPAA etc., hich will be enforced to the fullest extent of the law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are ereby notified that any examination, analysis, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution, haring, or use of the information in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received his message and associated documents in error, please notify the sender immediately for nstructions. If this message was received by e-mail, please delete the original message. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:06:54 +0100 From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTimP7fBYNyedZ4kTwKlIl6uzqnUVe3dyhxM5G8en@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks Maurice, any idea what religion PJ was ? On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM, <mauricebursey@aol.com> wrote: > > > I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful > too! > > I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you > have already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through > Patrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also > named Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, > Coleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:16:27 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen's religion To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE212C97CB5F9-20B8-124D5@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mike, Patrick was Roman Catholic. He and Mary Elizabeth were married at St. atrick's Church in Baltimore, and their children were all raised Catholic. That as passed through more generations, so that I'm Catholic too. When I first arrived in North Carolina in 1966, we were an exotic species. The ormer chairman of the chemistry department at UNC asked me what church I ttended, and of course I told him I was Catholic. His eyes widened, and he miled a big smile, and said, "Really? I'm Episcopalian!!! I think that meant we ere two peas in a pod, in the middle of the Bible Belt. Then he thought a moment and said, "Dr. Cameron was Catholic. He came in 926." And that implied that I was the next Catholic on the chemistry department aculty! Maurice ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:20:46 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE2136457AA47-20B8-1256D@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ha! It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that my great-grandfather changed is name because of a dispute with someone else in the family. I've taken a quick look at the website, but haven't really studied it yet. hanks. Maurice -----Original Message----- From: Cummings, Michael <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that > re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends omeone ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. Mick...not Purcell ichael J. Cummings, Director lbany County Civil Service 12 State Street lbany, New York 12207 18-447-4802 _______________________________________ rom: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me > irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll > tart digging around my notes. ue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ---- Original Message ----- rom: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM ubject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina -sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or umming..(even Cummins ?), explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can ive. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, ======================================= efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to he List. Its FREE! -------------------------------------- o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) > n the Subject box. 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Judy, Thanks. I'll try to track down references to Borris on the website. The main reason for writing back to you is that my wife Joan is from Omaha. Her maiden name is Tesarek. She graduated from Mercy High in 1961, from Creighton U. in 1965, and completed her PhD at Berkeley in 1969. Then she came to work with me on a postdoctoral appointment, but as my friends told me, I found a permanent position for her at the end of 1970, when we were married. So it will be 40 years for us at the end of December. I am retired from UNC (for health reaons originally, but they have been overcome) and she is still working. at EPA in the Research Triangle Park. Maurice -----Original Message----- From: Judy Duffy <judyduffy@aol.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 11:50 am Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 242 My Borris relatives are Cowmans. You might look there. udy Duffy in Omaha, NE. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:00 AM, irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > When replying to a message in digest, please don't forget to change the ubject and delete all parts of the digest not related to your message. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (michael purcell) 2. Patrick James Comen (mauricebursey@aol.com) 3. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (Cummings, Michael) 4. Re: Patrick James Comen (michael purcell) 5. Patrick James Comen's religion (mauricebursey@aol.com) 6. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (mauricebursey@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:48:21 +0100 From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTilot0ohvAxfdRfqrmNvMq6T1WG6Ux_yPA8w_U6n@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you Sue, Maurice should be making contact later ....I believe he might be from the Cumming / Cumen branch, there is a lot of data on them in the PPP, (if I ever get back to them !!.)..... On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM, <sneirish@comcast.net> wrote: > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to > me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the > meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. > Sue > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > Cumming..(even Cummins ?), > I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:12:01 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE1D77EF4862A-1670-C6F6@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful oo! I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you ave already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through atrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also amed Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, oleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:34:41 -0400 From: "Cummings, Michael" <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... To: "irl-carlow@rootsweb.com" <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C9C1C09C8DE8D8429576D029F3D7E29A0108D19ACE@ACMBX1.albanycounty.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. Mick...not Purcell Michael J. Cummings, Director Albany County Civil Service 112 State Street Albany, New York 12207 518-447-4802 ________________________________________ From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll tart digging around my notes. Sue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or Cumming..(even Cummins ?), I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to he List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) n the Subject box. 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If you have received his message and associated documents in error, please notify the sender immediately for nstructions. If this message was received by e-mail, please delete the original message. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:06:54 +0100 From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTimP7fBYNyedZ4kTwKlIl6uzqnUVe3dyhxM5G8en@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks Maurice, any idea what religion PJ was ? On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM, <mauricebursey@aol.com> wrote: > > > I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful > too! > > I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you > have already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through > Patrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also > named Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, > Coleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:16:27 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen's religion To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE212C97CB5F9-20B8-124D5@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mike, Patrick was Roman Catholic. He and Mary Elizabeth were married at St. atrick's Church in Baltimore, and their children were all raised Catholic. That as passed through more generations, so that I'm Catholic too. When I first arrived in North Carolina in 1966, we were an exotic species. The ormer chairman of the chemistry department at UNC asked me what church I ttended, and of course I told him I was Catholic. His eyes widened, and he miled a big smile, and said, "Really? I'm Episcopalian!!! I think that meant we ere two peas in a pod, in the middle of the Bible Belt. Then he thought a moment and said, "Dr. Cameron was Catholic. He came in 926." And that implied that I was the next Catholic on the chemistry department aculty! Maurice ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:20:46 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE2136457AA47-20B8-1256D@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ha! It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that my great-grandfather changed is name because of a dispute with someone else in the family. I've taken a quick look at the website, but haven't really studied it yet. hanks. Maurice -----Original Message----- From: Cummings, Michael <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that > re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends omeone ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. Mick...not Purcell ichael J. Cummings, Director lbany County Civil Service 12 State Street lbany, New York 12207 18-447-4802 _______________________________________ rom: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me > irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll > tart digging around my notes. ue http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ ---- Original Message ----- rom: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM ubject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... 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My Borris relatives are Cowmans. You might look there. Judy Duffy in Omaha, NE. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 2:00 AM, irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > When replying to a message in digest, please don't forget to change the subject and delete all parts of the digest not related to your message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (michael purcell) > 2. Patrick James Comen (mauricebursey@aol.com) > 3. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (Cummings, Michael) > 4. Re: Patrick James Comen (michael purcell) > 5. Patrick James Comen's religion (mauricebursey@aol.com) > 6. Re: Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... (mauricebursey@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:48:21 +0100 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTilot0ohvAxfdRfqrmNvMq6T1WG6Ux_yPA8w_U6n@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thank you Sue, > Maurice should be making contact later ....I believe he might be from the > Cumming / Cumen branch, there is a lot of data on them in the PPP, (if I > ever get back to them !!.)..... > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM, <sneirish@comcast.net> wrote: > >> By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to >> me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the >> meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. >> Sue >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> >> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... >> >> By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina >> --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or >> Cumming..(even Cummins ?), >> I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can >> give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe >> to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:12:01 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE1D77EF4862A-1670-C6F6@webmail-d038.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful too! > > I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you have already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through Patrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also named Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, Coleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:34:41 -0400 > From: "Cummings, Michael" <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > To: "irl-carlow@rootsweb.com" <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <C9C1C09C8DE8D8429576D029F3D7E29A0108D19ACE@ACMBX1.albanycounty.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that are broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! Most of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the routine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone off to God knows where never to be heard from again. > > Mick...not Purcell > > > Michael J. Cummings, Director > Albany County Civil Service > 112 State Street > Albany, New York 12207 > 518-447-4802 > ________________________________________ > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me directly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll start digging around my notes. > Sue > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > --sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > Cumming..(even Cummins ?), > I explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > give. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Confidentiality Notice: This fax/e-mail transmission, with accompanying records, is intended only for > the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged information belonging to the sender, including individually identifiable health information > subject to the privacy and security provisions of HIPAA. This information may be protected by > pertinent privilege(s), e.g., attorney-client, doctor-patient, HIPAA etc., which will be enforced to > the fullest extent of the law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > examination, analysis, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution, sharing, or use of the > information in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message and > associated documents in error, please notify the sender immediately for instructions. If this message > was received by e-mail, please delete the original message. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:06:54 +0100 > From: michael purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimP7fBYNyedZ4kTwKlIl6uzqnUVe3dyhxM5G8en@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > thanks Maurice, any idea what religion PJ was ? > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM, <mauricebursey@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> >> I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful >> too! >> >> I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you >> have already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through >> Patrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also >> named Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, >> Coleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. >> >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe >> to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:16:27 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Patrick James Comen's religion > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE212C97CB5F9-20B8-124D5@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Mike, > > Patrick was Roman Catholic. He and Mary Elizabeth were married at St. Patrick's Church in Baltimore, and their children were all raised Catholic. That was passed through more generations, so that I'm Catholic too. > > When I first arrived in North Carolina in 1966, we were an exotic species. The former chairman of the chemistry department at UNC asked me what church I attended, and of course I told him I was Catholic. His eyes widened, and he smiled a big smile, and said, "Really? I'm Episcopalian!!! I think that meant we were two peas in a pod, in the middle of the Bible Belt. > > Then he thought a moment and said, "Dr. Cameron was Catholic. He came in 1926." And that implied that I was the next Catholic on the chemistry department faculty! > > Maurice > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:20:46 -0400 > From: mauricebursey@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CCE2136457AA47-20B8-1256D@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Ha! It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that my great-grandfather changed his name because of a dispute with someone else in the family. > > I've taken a quick look at the website, but haven't really studied it yet. Thanks. > > Maurice > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cummings, Michael <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > > As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few that > re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! > ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the > outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends someone > ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. > Mick...not Purcell > > ichael J. Cummings, Director > lbany County Civil Service > 12 State Street > lbany, New York 12207 > 18-447-4802 > _______________________________________ > rom: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] > ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM > o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to me > irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, I'll > tart digging around my notes. > ue > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > ubject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > -sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > umming..(even Cummins ?), > explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > ive. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > ======================================= > efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to > he List. Its FREE! > -------------------------------------- > o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) > n the Subject box. 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Excuse us all, but just showing Maurice Bursey how our message system works ------- yes you have it right here Maurice. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:20 AM, <mauricebursey@aol.com> wrote: > > Ha! It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that my great-grandfather changed > his name because of a dispute with someone else in the family. > > I've taken a quick look at the website, but haven't really studied it yet. > Thanks. > > Maurice > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cummings, Michael <Michael.Cummings@albanycounty.com> > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > > > As it is I've a lot of branches to this tree without any leaves and a few > that > re broken.... but what the hell... a few more won't make it any prettier!! > ost of my Cummins never seem to get out of the Northeast but there is the > outine reference in Cummins folklore to the dispute which usually sends > someone > ff to God knows where never to be heard from again. > Mick...not Purcell > > ichael J. Cummings, Director > lbany County Civil Service > 12 State Street > lbany, New York 12207 > 18-447-4802 > _______________________________________ > rom: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > ehalf Of sneirish@comcast.net [sneirish@comcast.net] > ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:48 PM > o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > ubject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > By all means, Mick, you can refer him to the Carlow Cummins website, and to > me > irectly. You know I always love a new Cummins challenge! In the meantime, > I'll > tart digging around my notes. > ue > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cummins/ > > > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "michael purcell" <carlowmike@gmail.com> > o: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > ent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:03:11 AM > ubject: [IRL-CARLOW] Comen / Comyn / Cumming / Cummins.... > By airmail today from Maurice Bursey, of Chapel Hill, North Carolina > -sharing this enquiy with you all, I believe the surname may be Comyn or > umming..(even Cummins ?), > explained to Maurice that there is no charge for any assistance we can > ive. I have asked Michael to subscribe Maurice to the List, > ======================================= > efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to > he List. Its FREE! > -------------------------------------- > o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) > n the Subject box. 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any Cumming or Comyn that I have on my list were Church of Ireland ... On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:16 AM, <mauricebursey@aol.com> wrote: > > Mike, > > Patrick was Roman Catholic. He and Mary Elizabeth were married at St. > Patrick's Church in Baltimore, and their children were all raised Catholic. > That was passed through more generations, so that I'm Catholic too. > > When I first arrived in North Carolina in 1966, we were an exotic species. > The former chairman of the chemistry department at UNC asked me what church > I attended, and of course I told him I was Catholic. His eyes widened, and > he smiled a big smile, and said, "Really? I'm Episcopalian!!! I think that > meant we were two peas in a pod, in the middle of the Bible Belt. > > Then he thought a moment and said, "Dr. Cameron was Catholic. He came in > 1926." And that implied that I was the next Catholic on the chemistry > department faculty! > > Maurice > > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Maybe he was so smitten with Mary Elizabeth that he changed religion. That's what my grandfather Maurice did because of Patrick and Mary Elizabeth's daughter Marie Ann -- even had to change the spelling of his given name. Maurice Bursey

thanks Maurice, any idea what religion PJ was ? On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM, <mauricebursey@aol.com> wrote: > > > I never knew this website existed! The "Carlow Book of Kells" is wonderful > too! > > I notice names like Cowman in addition to the Comyn, Cummin, Cummings, you > have already told me about. According to notes from a third cousin (through > Patrick James Comen's wife Mary Elizabeth Cleary) Patrick's father was also > named Patrick. This cousin also states that other spellings were Commen, > Coleman, and Coalman, I suppose here in the USA. > > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe > to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >