just for info: the hughes were big landowners in ballinabranagh. ardnateggle is up the killeshin hills in co. laois (queen's county) and kyleballyhue is off the wexford road just outside carlow town. oh and the kilsella was more likely to be kiNsella. hope this is of some interest. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maribeth E. Nolan" <nolanme@verizon.net> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 5 July, 2010 23:55:07 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling How about these? Dowling. Erected by Mary Dowling of Ardenteggle in memory of her beloved husband John Dowling who died April 27th 1866 aged 56 yrs. Also his daughter Elizabeth who died Oct 16th 1860 aged 23 yrs. Thomas Dowling, Monavea died 8th April 1950 aged 53 years. Requiescant in Pace. Dowling. Pray for the repose of the soul of William Dowling who died 22nd March 1884 aged 71 yrs. Bridget Dowling died 18th Aug. 1891 aged 70 years. Sarah Dowling died 24th January 1914aged 57 years. William Dowling died 3rd Dec 1929 aged 84 years and his wife Dora Dowling died 5th February 1942 aged 84 years, and their son James died 28th February 1942 aged 64 years, and his wife Margaret died 30th. December 1994, aged 82 yrs. R.I.P. Erected by his son Patrick Dowling U.S.A. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Curtis" <anglers@bullshoals.net> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 6:24 PM To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling > Hi Ronnie, > I wonder if your James DOWLING could be related to my James DOWLING. > All I have is that my James DOWLING was b 27-Oct-1875 and d 22-Jan-1946 > and was married to Nellie Cornelia REUTLINGER b 3-Jan-1881 d 11-May-1936 > I only have one children born to this marriage: > Walter Eugene DOWLING > b 16-Jul-1905 Centralia,IL > d 5-Apr-1964 Urbana,Champaign Co.,IL Mercy Hospital > bur:: 8-Apr-1964 Champaign,IL Roselawn Cemetery > m 26-Feb-1925 Champaign,IL 1st Baptist Church > Lena Ida BECK. > Any information on this James DOWLING would be greatly appreciated. > Pat Curtis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shorten Family" <shortenfamily@eircom.net> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 9:53 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling > > >> My Dowling branch is at a standstill - can anybody get me back farther ? >> My >> gr. Grandfather was James Dowling who married Elizabeth Hughes from >> Ballinabrnnagh in 1857. The parents of James were Patrick Dowling of >> Ballyloo and Mary Nowlan of Linkardstown and as far as I know the parents >> of >> Patrick were Timothy Dowling of Ballyloo and a Miss Kilsella of >> Kyleballhue >> . Timothy was born around 1765, because I found his age in a survey of >> "Men fit to carry Arms " . I have this information for at least 25 >> years >> and have never got back any farther. Ronnie Shorten (Dowling) >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must >> subscribe to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2984 - Release Date: 07/05/10 > 13:36:00 > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ======================================= Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to the List. Its FREE! --------------------------------------- To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Anna!

Hi Denny, My 2 great grand mother Catherine WHALEN was b in 1822 maybe 1820 County Carlow,Ireland and married Edward MALEY/O'MALEY/O'MALLEY in Ireland and they came to the USA in 1850 via the Port of New Orleans,LA. The ended up in Pesotum,Champaign Co.,IL. I do not know who their parents were. Sure wish that I did. Have you ever heard of this family? Regards, Pat MALEY-CURTIS Arkansas USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <guscarroll@comcast.net> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Surname Roll-Call > Carroll whalen/Whalen Burn/borne/Burns > Denny Carroll Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Mary S. Frazier" <msfrazier@hotmail.com> > Sender: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 15:43:57 > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Surname Roll-Call > > > Searching for Costello, Regan and Joyce of or near Spahill. > > > > Mary F. > >> From: mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk >> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:33:08 +0100 >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Surname Roll-Call >> >> Isn't it about time we had a Surname Roll-Call? >> >> >> Regards >> >> Michael Brennan >> >> Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ >> My Laois Page: >> http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm >> >> >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must >> subscribe to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2979 - Release Date: 07/03/10 01:35:00

>From Pat Connors this morning: A Calendar of Irish Chancery Letters 1244 - 1509. For those wanting names and history, you will find this site extremely interesting. http://irishchancery.net/

Have you seen the The Sunday Tribune (4th July 2010) : Danger of 'Irish history being lost' : http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2010/jul/04/danger-of-irish-history-being-lost-due-to-poor-sto/ Please take a few minutes to read this! Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Please note that the IRL-CARLOW Mailing List is a Members Only forum. If you want to send a message to the List or reply to any message on the List you have to be a signed up member. Rootsweb.com will not allow Non-Members emails to get through to the List. If you would like to join our community we would be happy to welcome you but you will have to Subscribe to the List; (Its FREE!) Please follow these instructions: To Subscribe to the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject box and in the body of the email with no additional text. Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

My Great Great Grandfather Edward O'MALEY/O'MALLEY/MALEY,Sr. was born 7-Feb-1820 County Carlow,Ireland died 17-Nov-1892 Pesotum,Champaign Co.,IL He arrived in United States of America Nov 26,1850 via the Port of New Orleans,LA with his wife Catherine WHALEN who was b 1822 County Carlow,Ireland died 14-Feb-1896 Pesotum,Champaign Co.,IL Both are buried at St.Patrick's Cemetery,Tolono,Champaignj Co.,IL. They were married in Ireland but I do not know when or where. I know nothing of anything about their parents or siblings. Would really like to know more about these families. Edward MALEY, Sr. also had a brother Lawrence MALEY but I can not find if he came with them or not to America. Edward and Catherine (WHALEN) MALEY had 9 children: Michael m Mary Agnes (Polly) HANNON; Francis "Frank"; Philip m Johanna O'CONNER; Mary m John FIELDING; Edward, Jr. my great grandfather who m Rose Ann "Annie" GORMAN; Patrick; John Lawrence m Mary Bridget CAMPBELL; Anastasia and James MALEY m Anne DENEHEY. All the children were born in USA. Any information on the O'MALEY/O/MALLEY and WHALEN/WHELEN's would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Patricia MALEY-CURTIS Arkansas USA

How about these? Dowling. Erected by Mary Dowling of Ardenteggle in memory of her beloved husband John Dowling who died April 27th 1866 aged 56 yrs. Also his daughter Elizabeth who died Oct 16th 1860 aged 23 yrs. Thomas Dowling, Monavea died 8th April 1950 aged 53 years. Requiescant in Pace. Dowling. Pray for the repose of the soul of William Dowling who died 22nd March 1884 aged 71 yrs. Bridget Dowling died 18th Aug. 1891 aged 70 years. Sarah Dowling died 24th January 1914aged 57 years. William Dowling died 3rd Dec 1929 aged 84 years and his wife Dora Dowling died 5th February 1942 aged 84 years, and their son James died 28th February 1942 aged 64 years, and his wife Margaret died 30th. December 1994, aged 82 yrs. R.I.P. Erected by his son Patrick Dowling U.S.A. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Curtis" <anglers@bullshoals.net> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 6:24 PM To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling > Hi Ronnie, > I wonder if your James DOWLING could be related to my James DOWLING. > All I have is that my James DOWLING was b 27-Oct-1875 and d 22-Jan-1946 > and was married to Nellie Cornelia REUTLINGER b 3-Jan-1881 d 11-May-1936 > I only have one children born to this marriage: > Walter Eugene DOWLING > b 16-Jul-1905 Centralia,IL > d 5-Apr-1964 Urbana,Champaign Co.,IL Mercy Hospital > bur:: 8-Apr-1964 Champaign,IL Roselawn Cemetery > m 26-Feb-1925 Champaign,IL 1st Baptist Church > Lena Ida BECK. > Any information on this James DOWLING would be greatly appreciated. > Pat Curtis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shorten Family" <shortenfamily@eircom.net> > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 9:53 AM > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling > > >> My Dowling branch is at a standstill - can anybody get me back farther ? >> My >> gr. Grandfather was James Dowling who married Elizabeth Hughes from >> Ballinabrnnagh in 1857. The parents of James were Patrick Dowling of >> Ballyloo and Mary Nowlan of Linkardstown and as far as I know the parents >> of >> Patrick were Timothy Dowling of Ballyloo and a Miss Kilsella of >> Kyleballhue >> . Timothy was born around 1765, because I found his age in a survey of >> "Men fit to carry Arms " . I have this information for at least 25 >> years >> and have never got back any farther. Ronnie Shorten (Dowling) >> >> ======================================= >> Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must >> subscribe to the List. Its FREE! >> --------------------------------------- >> To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the >> quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2984 - Release Date: 07/05/10 > 13:36:00 > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Maribeth, I do not know where by Uncle Walter Eugene "Walt" DOWLING's parents were born nor any of his siblings. Uncle Walt and Aunt Lena had 4 Children: James Walter "Jim/Jimmy" DOWLING (1925-1992) born and died in Champaign,Champaign Co.,IL' Darlene June DOWLING (1927-1997) born and died in Champaign,Champaign Co.,IL; Charles William "Bill" DOWLING (1931-2010) born Urbana,Champaign Co.,IL died Okeechobee,FL and John Adolph DOWLING b 1939 Urbana,Champaign Co.,IL is still living. Regards, Pat Curtis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maribeth E. Nolan" <nolanme@verizon.net> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling > How about these? > > Dowling. Erected by Mary Dowling of Ardenteggle in memory of her beloved > husband John Dowling who died April 27th 1866 aged 56 yrs. Also his > daughter > Elizabeth who died Oct 16th 1860 aged 23 yrs. Thomas Dowling, Monavea died > 8th April 1950 aged 53 years. Requiescant in Pace. > > Dowling. Pray for the repose of the soul of William Dowling who died 22nd > March 1884 aged 71 yrs. Bridget Dowling died 18th Aug. 1891 aged 70 years. > Sarah Dowling died 24th January 1914aged 57 years. William Dowling died > 3rd > Dec 1929 aged 84 years and his wife Dora Dowling died 5th February 1942 > aged > 84 years, and their son James died 28th February 1942 aged 64 years, and > his > wife Margaret died 30th. December 1994, aged 82 yrs. R.I.P. Erected by his > son Patrick Dowling U.S.A. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Curtis" <anglers@bullshoals.net> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 6:24 PM > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling > >> Hi Ronnie, >> I wonder if your James DOWLING could be related to my James DOWLING. >> All I have is that my James DOWLING was b 27-Oct-1875 and d 22-Jan-1946 >> and was married to Nellie Cornelia REUTLINGER b 3-Jan-1881 d 11-May-1936 >> I only have one children born to this marriage: >> Walter Eugene DOWLING >> b 16-Jul-1905 Centralia,IL >> d 5-Apr-1964 Urbana,Champaign Co.,IL Mercy Hospital >> bur:: 8-Apr-1964 Champaign,IL Roselawn Cemetery >> m 26-Feb-1925 Champaign,IL 1st Baptist Church >> Lena Ida BECK. >> Any information on this James DOWLING would be greatly appreciated. >> Pat Curtis >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Shorten Family" <shortenfamily@eircom.net> >> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 9:53 AM >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling >> >> >>> My Dowling branch is at a standstill - can anybody get me back farther ? >>> My >>> gr. Grandfather was James Dowling who married Elizabeth Hughes from >>> Ballinabrnnagh in 1857. The parents of James were Patrick Dowling of >>> Ballyloo and Mary Nowlan of Linkardstown and as far as I know the >>> parents >>> of >>> Patrick were Timothy Dowling of Ballyloo and a Miss Kilsella of >>> Kyleballhue >>> . Timothy was born around 1765, because I found his age in a survey >>> of >>> "Men fit to carry Arms " . I have this information for at least 25 >>> years >>> and have never got back any farther. Ronnie Shorten (Dowling)

Hi Ronnie, I wonder if your James DOWLING could be related to my James DOWLING. All I have is that my James DOWLING was b 27-Oct-1875 and d 22-Jan-1946 and was married to Nellie Cornelia REUTLINGER b 3-Jan-1881 d 11-May-1936 I only have one children born to this marriage: Walter Eugene DOWLING b 16-Jul-1905 Centralia,IL d 5-Apr-1964 Urbana,Champaign Co.,IL Mercy Hospital bur:: 8-Apr-1964 Champaign,IL Roselawn Cemetery m 26-Feb-1925 Champaign,IL 1st Baptist Church Lena Ida BECK. Any information on this James DOWLING would be greatly appreciated. Pat Curtis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shorten Family" <shortenfamily@eircom.net> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 9:53 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling > My Dowling branch is at a standstill - can anybody get me back farther ? > My > gr. Grandfather was James Dowling who married Elizabeth Hughes from > Ballinabrnnagh in 1857. The parents of James were Patrick Dowling of > Ballyloo and Mary Nowlan of Linkardstown and as far as I know the parents > of > Patrick were Timothy Dowling of Ballyloo and a Miss Kilsella of > Kyleballhue > . Timothy was born around 1765, because I found his age in a survey of > "Men fit to carry Arms " . I have this information for at least 25 years > and have never got back any farther. Ronnie Shorten (Dowling) > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2984 - Release Date: 07/05/10 13:36:00

My Dowling branch is at a standstill - can anybody get me back farther ? My gr. Grandfather was James Dowling who married Elizabeth Hughes from Ballinabrnnagh in 1857. The parents of James were Patrick Dowling of Ballyloo and Mary Nowlan of Linkardstown and as far as I know the parents of Patrick were Timothy Dowling of Ballyloo and a Miss Kilsella of Kyleballhue . Timothy was born around 1765, because I found his age in a survey of "Men fit to carry Arms " . I have this information for at least 25 years and have never got back any farther. Ronnie Shorten (Dowling)

Mike, I sent a message sveral days ago, and it has yet to arrive in my mail as a membner of the mailing list. What's to do? Maurice -----Original Message----- From: Michael Brennan <mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk> To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 2:40 pm Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Mailing List (Members Only) Please note that the IRL-CARLOW Mailing List is a Members Only forum. If you want to send a message to the List or reply to any message on the ist you have to be a signed up member. Rootsweb.com will not allow Non-Members emails to get through to the List. If you would like to join our community we would be happy to welcome you but ou will have to Subscribe to the List; (Its FREE!) Please follow these instructions: To Subscribe to the list, please send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the uotes) in the subject box and in the body of the email with no additional ext. egards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ y Laois Page: ttp://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm ======================================= efore you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must subscribe to he List. Its FREE! -------------------------------------- o subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to RL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) n the Subject box. No additional text is required. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Ronnie, I have a subscription to the "Worldvitalrecords.com" databases and, among other things, this enables me to determine the filing/index information for Irish wills held at the National Archives in Dublin. To give you a jumpstart in furthering your Dowling research I did a lookup for wills for the names of Timothy and Patrick Dowling. Attached is a document with the index information for the wills I found. You may want to take a look at some of these wills when you next go to Dublin or order them (order form attache) by regular mail. I also attached other Dowling information of possible interest. Here also are the particulars for the contact person at the National Archives: Pauline Dunne Reader Services Section National Archives Bishop Street Dublin 8 Payments for copies of wills may be made by cheque or postal order. They do not have facilities at present to process credit card payments. Ordering from Canada Pauline Dunne gave me a round figure of 4 Euros to cover postage and handling for rach copy of a will. It may be less for Ireland. Well Ronnie that's about it for now. With best regards, Roger & Rosie Ottawa area, Canada ----- Initial Message ----- From: "Shorten Family" <shortenfamily@eircom.net> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling > My Dowling branch is at a standstill - can anybody get me back farther ? > My > gr. Grandfather was James Dowling who married Elizabeth Hughes from > Ballinabrnnagh in 1857. The parents of James were Patrick Dowling of > Ballyloo and Mary Nowlan of Linkardstown and as far as I know the parents > of > Patrick were Timothy Dowling of Ballyloo and a Miss Kilsella of > Kyleballhue > . Timothy was born around 1765, because I found his age in a survey of > "Men fit to carry Arms " . I have this information for at least 25 years > and have never got back any farther. Ronnie Shorten (Dowling) > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Roger having read the following Message 2 I decided to check my 'Journal for the Memorials of the Dead' material just in case I transcribed them incorrectly. The transcriptions referred to in your email from the JPMD are correct on the website. If there is a mistake it may have been at the time of original transcription from the headstone to the JPMD transcripts and may need checking against the original headstone if it has survived. Best wishes Susie > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 19:58:11 +0100 > From: "Shorten Family" <shortenfamily@eircom.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Journal for the Memorials of the Dead - > NOWLANs in KELLISTOWN > To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001cb1baa$d96dc0b0$8c494210$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Roger _ I have just noticed your message and I presume that you know that > the list which you give is a little different from Bill Dillon's report on > those headstones in Kellistown. As far as I know you have all the texts > that I have but just in case you missed out on anything I will clarify ! > In > No. 11 on his list which is your second one - Edward and James Nowlan; he > has the age as 39 years whereas the journal has it as 30. The text for > the > John Hanlon stone is as follows on his list "Here lieth the Remains of > John Hanlon of Laughe and his wife Alice Hanlon, alias Kehoe, the latter > Departed this life February 24th 1788 @ --- yrs, the former July 29th > 1780 > aged 70 years." Let me know if you want me to go there and check these > out > - or maybe you already have done so. I hope you are both well - have you > another visit to Carlow planned ? Ronnie > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger Nowlan > Sent: 02 July 2010 19:15 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Cc: Susie Warren > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Journal for the Memorials of the Dead - NOWLANs > in > KELLISTOWN > > Susie, > > I want to thank you for your transcriptions from the JPMD. In searching > through them I found what I believe could be a link to my Nowlan family > and > I wanted to share my finding with the others on the list. > > In the Kellistown cemetery transcriptions I found the following: > > ++++++++++++++++++++++ > 'The next five monuments are in the Nave of the old Priory':- > > _____ > "This stone Erected by EDWARD NOWLAN (- -) Memory of his Wife BRIDGET > NOWLAN > > who Departed this life 16th of April 1700 aged 52 years also two of their > children > Lord have mercy on their souls Amen." > _____ > I.H.S. > "This stone erected by EDWARD and JAMES NOWLAN of Shrule near Carlow in > memory of their Father and Mother also CATHERINE the Beloved and > Affectionate wife of JAMES NOWLAN who departed this life the First of > March > 1785 aged 30 years She was Sanctified with Every virtue and after a > tedious > > illness was called to receive her reward in a better world Amen." > ______ > "Here lieth the body of THOMAS HANLON who departed this life September the > 6th 1786 aged 24 years. > ______ > "Here lies the Remains of JOHN HANLON of Laughe and his Wife ALICE HANLON > alias KEHOE, the latter Departed this life February 24th 1789 aged 70 > years. > > May they rest in Peace Amen." > ______ > "This stone was Erected by Mrs. ANNE KINSELLA of Upper Church Street in > the > City of Dublin Baker to the memory of her Beloved Husband PATRICK > KINSELLA and their child who Departed this life the 27 of Novr 1820 aged > 36 > years." > JPMD, Vol V, 1901 - 1903 , CARLOW, Page 151. > > ___ > The details above have been transcribed from the Journals titled, "Journal > for the Memorials of the Dead" which can be found at County Carlow > Library, > > Tullow Street, Carlow, Co Carlow IRELAND. > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > The second transcription of particular interest as it could fit with what > I > know of my ancestor James Nowland and hence opens up a new avenue of > research. > > My ancestor James Nowland married Mary Clowry (alias Shortall) in 1793 in > Ballon. The witnesses were a James Brennan and a Maurice Dawson. Mary had > previously been married to a James Clowry in 1784 suggesting that James > might also have been married earlier. > > The James Nowlan Sr. mentioned on the tombstone above married someone > named > Catherine sometime before 1785 and had at least two sons James Jr. and > Edward. > > I don't know when the tombstone was erected but, if this James Sr. would > be > my ancestor, then James Jr. would have been from a first marriage for > James > and Edward from a second marriage namely to Mary Shortall who we know had > at > > least two sons, Peter (c1796) and Edward (c1798). > > If the James Sr. mentioned on the tombstone is my ancestor then the > tombstone would have been erected sometime in the early 1800s, recall that > the son Edward in my family was only born around 1798. > > FURTHER REMARKS > > I also note that the tombstone in Kellistown makes the link between > traditional Nolan territory (barony of Forth; Ballon area) and > traditionnal > > Brennan territory (area where counties Kilkenny, Carlow, Leix and Kildare > are at their closest, the Shrule townland being in this area). This > observation is particulary noteworthy for me as a James Brennan was a > witness to James Sr's marriage to Mary Shortall in Ballon in 1793. > > Well that's about it for now! > The James Sr. mentioned above may or may not be my ancestor but I thought > I > would share with you a new line of investigation in my own family > research. > > With best regards, > > Roger Nowlan > > http://nolanfamilies.org >

This has not been posted in a long time, but if you are doing research in Co. Carlow, you might want to check out this website: www.countycarlowcooganimmigrants.com Some of my relatives are in these letters. There is a list of surnames, and alot of other information. You might find some leads. And don't forget to also post on the County Carlow rootsweb board. Debbie

Matilda is my family. She had an uncle who was my gg grandfather. And yes, I recall too that she married Bernard Nolan and then Hugh Nolan. I don't know if I have much of anything on Bernard. All my research is packed up and and the boxes are here and there and piled up ! We have been reorganizing our home office and I have not worked on my Irish genealogy in a long time. Debbie <<There was a branch of Nolans in the Myshall area with the first name Bernard in the mid 1800s, hailing from the area of Rosslee townland.  What I recall from this Bernard is that when he died in 1869 his widow Matilda married another Nolan, a Hugh Nolan (of Shangarry Nolan line). Bernard had two brothers that I know of, a James  who lived in the Myshall area and another named John who lived in New Ross, Co. Wexford. After Bernard's death, a legal nightmare ensued which was eventually resolved in favour of Hugh Nolan who had married the widow Matilda and took in Bernard's children.>>

BELL family of Minoughrim near Clonegal from 1700s to 1838 specifically Mary Bell and her daughter Susannah (b.1818), as well as Ann Bell sister of Mary and their father John Bell farmer of Minaughrim. The family were farmers in the area and members of St. Fiaacs Church of Ireland Clonegal. Mary and Susannah emigrated to Australia in 1838. STERNE Charles Sterne, possibly of the local Clonegal clan of Sternes who mostly emigrated to Canada but more likely a relative from Wexford. Charles married Mary Bell (see above) and they had a daughter Susannah (see above baptised St Fiaacs) in 1818. Charles was also mentioned as a farmer. It is probable that he died before 1838. thanking you, marni foote

I am looking for any info on the Neil/Neill/O'Neill family (and the others in the subject line) who lived around Newtown, Bagenalstown, Slyguff and Ballinkillen. The family name was Neil in Ireland but changed to O'Neill in Australia. James Neil married Annie Lowery (also Lowry, Lowary, Lourey), the eldest daughter of James and Annie Lowery (nee Walsh/Welsh). Alice, the third daughter of James and Annie Lowery emigrated to Australia in 1882 as did the second daughter Bridget and her husband John Aylward. John and Bridget returned to Ireland in the 1890s and lived in Slyguff but Alice their daughter emigrated in 1914 with one of the May boys. Elizabeth, the 4th daughter married John May and lived in Slyguff. Four of the May sons emigrated to Australia - James, John, William and Patrick (who married Anne or Nan Power). Theresa, the 5th daughter, I think married a Murphy and had a son called John who was born in New York but I have no other info on her. I also think, but can't confirm, that there was another daughter called Kate who also went to America. James Neil's father was also called James Neil but I do not know who his mother was. He married Annie Lowery in 1883 in Bagenalstown and they emigrated in 1885. James' sister Eliza/Elizabeth is also supposed to have emigrated with them. I can find her here in Australia but not in Ireland. Any ideas or help would be appreciated. Regards Cathie

Hi Ronnie, Did you check this site: http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/DOWLING/2002-07 Also, there are a lot of Dowlings on the IPG Carlow Rootsweb site that Michael B maintains. Did you check there? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Shorten Family" <shortenfamily@eircom.net> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:53 AM To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Dowling > My Dowling branch is at a standstill - can anybody get me back farther ? > My > gr. Grandfather was James Dowling who married Elizabeth Hughes from > Ballinabrnnagh in 1857. The parents of James were Patrick Dowling of > Ballyloo and Mary Nowlan of Linkardstown and as far as I know the parents > of > Patrick were Timothy Dowling of Ballyloo and a Miss Kilsella of > Kyleballhue > . Timothy was born around 1765, because I found his age in a survey of > "Men fit to carry Arms " . I have this information for at least 25 years > and have never got back any farther. Ronnie Shorten (Dowling) > > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Maurice Hackettstown is close as are all the places in Carlow but I really don't know I'm sorry which is why I have posted to the list hoping for more information prior to 1832. Originally this family was from England and I have found them spelling the name Colman as well. You might well be right about Comen but you will need better proof than a suspicion to confirm this besides 1848 is getting a bit late for too many spelling mistakes I would have thought. Best wishes, Barbara. Message: 8 Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:42:39 -0400 From: mauricebursey@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Subject: Re: Roll call To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCE9208EF3074A-B18-C997@webmail-d027.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Barbara, Are your Colemans from Hacketstown? I am all but convinced that my great-grandfather Patrick Comen (in the USA) was born there in 1848 as Patrick Coleman. Maurice Bursey Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA

Daniel, Looking at your Nolan information and the somewhat scarce first names "Lawrence" and "Bernard" appearing together in your line I tend to agree with you that the Myshall baptism in 1832 would be yours i.e. parents Thomas Nolan and a Fenlon. There was a branch of Nolans in the Myshall area with the first name Bernard in the mid 1800s, hailing from the area of Rosslee townland. What I recall from this Bernard is that when he died in 1869 his widow Matilda married another Nolan, a Hugh Nolan (of Shangarry Nolan line). Bernard had two brothers that I know of, a James who lived in the Myshall area and another named John who lived in New Ross, Co. Wexford. After Bernard's death, a legal nightmare ensued which was eventually resolved in favour of Hugh Nolan who had married the widow Matilda and took in Bernard's children. There are many Nolan lines in the Rosslee townland area including my own (Kilknock-Killane-possibly Rosslee line) so research on Nolans in this area is especially difficult. I recommend that you look through the tombstone inscriptions at my website for the various Nolans buried in the Myshall cemeteries (all of which are viewable via my website). Here is a page (2 of 3) http://www.nolanfamilies.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=29&page=2 where you will find a Thomas Nolan of Rosslee buried in the new RC cemetery . The particular Thomas listed here is not the right generation to be the father of your ancestor but at least you can see that the name Thomas had a association with the Rosslee townland. I suggest that you view the other Myshall transcriptions. For example, on page 3 of 3 of the "Myshall-RC-new" cemetery your will also find a reference to a Bernard Nolan of Ballaughmore (townland next to Rosslee). There are 3 Myshall cemeteries documented for Nolans (& related families) at my website: Myshall-RC-new; Myshall-RC-old1; Myshall-RC-old2 To summarize I believe that you are in the right "ballpark". Good luck with your research and let me know if you uncover more on your Nolan family linkage to Co. Carlow. Bye for now, Roger Nowlan http://nolanfamilies.org P.S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Nolan" <danielnolan99@gmail.com> To: <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Surname Roll Call: Nolan - Edward Nolan,Carlow -> Joliet, Illinois, c. 1837 > Could anyone lend some assistance to this one, my Great Great Grandfather? > > http://www.geni.com/profile/index/6000000003736849373?fsession%5Fid=1278329582598&from%5Fflash=1&through=6000000003736518867#/tab/overview > ======================================= > Before you post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list you must > subscribe to the List. Its FREE! > --------------------------------------- > To subscribe to the IRL-Carlow mailing list, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "subscribe" (without the > quotes) in the Subject box. No additional text is required. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >