This brings to mind a conversation I had many years ago with the then owner of Fitzpatrick's Pub. The Black and Tans arrived at the pub and forced the family out, they threatened to burn it but I can't recall that the did burn it. However soon afterwards three Black & Tans were apprehended in the vicinity of the Mall, shot and buried some where near by! I wonder if this is linked to the ambush mentioned? Were they Tans or Auxiliaries ? PD "The past is a different country" On 26 April 2012 16:01, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > Can any reader help Mike with his search ? > > 9th April 1921. > CARLOW R.I.C. CONSTABLE KILLED. > CIVILIAN SERIOUSLY WOUNDED. > On Sunday night at about 8.30 p.m. (Summer Time), Constable James Duffy, > Royal Irish Constabulary, Carlow, was shot dead between the Mall and > .......................... into Mr Fitzpatrick's licensed premises to have > a drink. Then they > left, evidently intending to be back in Carlow before the Curfew hour. > At about a quarter of a mile on the Carlow side of Fitzpatricks they were > held up by three armed men who had been sitting in the hedge. >

If you walked in to Dempsey's yard through the vehicle gateway beside the shop entrance in the 1960's you would see the remains of two rows of houses, these were no longer dwellings but were used by the Dempsey family business for storage of "everything from a needle to an anchor", since then the houses have been demolished and various sheds erected. In my earlier contribution I mentioned the Courthouse, this was only to give some sense of direction, the Courthouse was built well after 1798. Lowery's lane may have run parallel to School Lane ? Perhaps a visit to Dempsey's shop and a word with one of the family might lead to some photographs of the old lane, its worth a try. PD On 26 April 2012 15:56, <[email protected]> wrote: > according to my 1850 map it looks like lawry's lane is behind where > dempsey's yard is now!!!!!!!!!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "CARLOMAN2" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, 24 April, 2012 6:32:14 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Lawry's Lane Carlow > > Lowry's Lane used to go through what is now St. Patrick's college to the > old Dublin road somewhere opposite the Courthouse. During the 1798 rising > some of the united Irishmen escaped through the lane from Tullow street. > This is another item of Carlow history that should be highlighted for > locals and tourists . > > PD > > > > > On 23 April 2012 21:18, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Lowry's Lane is now the store yard adjoining and owned by Dempsey's > > Hardware shop on Tullow Street. Carlow. > > > > On 23 April 2012 20:30, Michael Brennan <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Can someone tell me where Lawry's Lane in Carlow used to be and what is > > it > > > called now. > > > > > > Its mentioned in Griffiths Valuation and the 1901 census. > > > > > > Regards > > > Michael Brennan > > > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > > > My Laois Page: > > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Anna! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Oops! My mistake! Cathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: 26 April 2012 20:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] James Duffy 1891- 1921. just to clarify Cathy, his father was Francis Duffy. I am also interested in this because when I was young I heard several old people say "they should never have shot Duffy". I have asked for his Service Number, possibly Terry can help fill a few gaps. On 26 April 2012 19:49, Andy Goss <[email protected]> wrote: > What we know from this: > James' father was Francis Coffey who was a small farmer and horse dealer. > James had a sister. > The family was from Tonniscoffey, Monaghan James was unmarried. > He died in April 1921, age 30. > He joined the Royal Irish Constabulary Army the December 28th 1920 He > was a Sergeant in the Royal Garrison Army before his time in the Royal > Irish Constabulary Army where he got a medal for bravery. > > A wealth of information-I hope you make the connection, Mike. > > Regards, > Cathy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terry Curran > Sent: 26 April 2012 19:10 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] James Duffy 1891- 1921. > > If the Medal card shows he was awarded the Military Medal MM then it > pretty much sure its the same man, can you tell me his service number > > all the best Terry > > > ________________________________ > From: michael purcell <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2012, 17:01 > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] James Duffy 1891- 1921. > > Can any reader help Mike with his search ? > hello mike. > my name is also Mike and over the past few weeks I have been tring to > find information on James Duffy who is a relative of mine. The James > Duffy i have been looking for was from Monaghan and had joined the RGA > in 1914. So far I have got his > 1) Baptism Cert > 2)Medal Card from WW1 > 3) History of his time in the war. > I have also 2 of his medals from the war. He was a Sergent in the > R.G.A and was discharged in Sept 1918. so I do not know what happened > to him after > 1918 . if this is the same person who died in Calow i would like to > find out more about him. > my father's mother was sister to James.. > My father was born in 1933, > if you have any more information on James i would love to hear it. I > am also living in Monaghan, not far from where James was born. Could > he be the man named in this report published on the Carlow IGP ?. > Nationalist and Leinster Times. > 9th April 1921. > CARLOW R.I.C. CONSTABLE KILLED. > CIVILIAN SERIOUSLY WOUNDED. > On Sunday night at about 8.30 p.m. (Summer Time), Constable James > Duffy, Royal Irish Constabulary, Carlow, was shot dead between the > Mall and Killeshin, Queen's County, about two miles from Carlow. > Henry James, Graiguecullen, who was with the constable was rather > seriously wounded. The only source of information, of course, is Henry James himself. > It appears that the two men were out walking on Sunday evening, and > finally went into Mr Fitzpatrick's licensed premises to have a drink. > Then they left, evidently intending to be back in Carlow before the Curfew hour. > At about a quarter of a mile on the Carlow side of Fitzpatricks they > were held up by three armed men who had been sitting in the hedge. Two > of them fired at Constable Duffy, and the third attacked Henry James. > Several shots were fired. Both men were hit, Henry James receiving two > bullets, one in the shoulder, and the other in the hip. > Both men ran across the roadside fence in opposite directions. > Henry James ran in the direction of a farmer's house near by, where he > got a cap - having lost his own in the pursuit - and then made his way > to another house in the district. The family had retired to bed. Henry > threw gravel at the window and was immediately admitted by the owner, > who promptly went to Carlow town for Dr. Doyle. > The doctor was quickly on the scene, as were also a party of military > soldiers. > The wounded man, Henry James, was of course unaware of his > companion's fate or whereabouts, but stated that while he was escaping > across the fields he heard about ten more shots in quick succession. > The military proceeded to search for the missing constable and > returned to the house about 1.30 a.m., having failed to find him. > Henry James was removed to the military barracks in Carlow, and > subsequently conveyed to the military hospital at the Curragh Camp. > OFFICIAL REPORT. > The following report was issued by Dublin Castle on Monday :- " > Constable James Duffy, Carlow, whilst out walking on Sunday night near > Killeshin was fired on. Henry James, a civilian, who was with him, was > wounded in the hip by the bullet intended for the constable" > "Yesterday morning the dead body of Constable Duffy was found in a > ploughed field about half a mile from the place he had been fired on. > He was, apparently trying to make his escape from the first fire when > he was followed and killed. There was a large number of bullet wounds > on his body and head. > THE FUNERAL. > On Thursday morning the military funeral of the late Constable Duffy > took place. > At both Masses in the Cathedral that morning the Clergy intimated that > they were asked by the military authorities to announce that all > business places in the town should close from 10 a.m. to 12oc, noon. > Prayers were asked for the repose of the soul of Constable Duffy at > each Mass. > Since coming to Carlow, he had been a frequent attendant at his > religious duties and received Holy Communion in the Cathedral on > Sunday morning, the day he was shot. > All shops, factories, etc., closed down at 10 a.m. > Shortly after 11oc the funeral procession commenced from the Military > Barracks, the route being Barrack Street, Tullow Street, Dublin > Street, Dublin Road to the Railway Station, where the remains were > entrained for Kingsbridge and thence to the family burial ground in Counrty Monaghan. > There was a large concourse of people from the town and district in > attendance. > A large force of Royal Irish Constabulary marched before and after the > motor hearse, on which was the coffin, draped in the Union Jack. > The rear was made up of the Carlow members of the "Comrades of the > Great War" under the command of Col. Browne - Clayton, D.S.O. > The chief mourners were the deceased's father, Francis Duffy and Miss > Duffy, sister. > Rev. A. Lynam, Adm. and Rev. J. Killian, C.C. walked after the hearse. > The last prayers for the dead were said at the Military Barracks and > at the Railway Station by Rev Lynam and Rev Killian. > Several wreaths were placed on the coffin - R.I.P. > > MILITARY INQUEST IN CARLOW. > At the Carlow Military Barracks on Wednesday a Military Court of > Inquiry was held concerning the death of Constable James Duffy, whose > dead body was found in a ploughed field near Killeshin on Monday > morning. > Constable James Duffy had joined the Royal Irish Constabulary on > December 28th 1920, and had been in the British army - Royal Garrison > Artillery - in which he held the rank of Sergeant, and fought during > the Great War and received the military medal for bravery. > He was aged 30 in January last, and was unmarried. > The first witness sworn was the dead constable's father, Francis > Duffy, a small farmer and horse dealer from Tonniscoffey, County > Monaghan, who identified the body as that of his son James Duffy. > He had not seen his son since January , when he joined the R.I.C. > A police witness stated that James Duffy came to Carlow on January > 19th last and was stationed in Carlow up to his death. > On Sunday evening April 3rd, he granted James Duffy leave of absence > from > 6.30 till 9 p.m.. He did not see him again until he saw his dead body > at > 7.30 a.m. on Monday, April 4th, being brought to Carlow Barracks on a > tender. > They had been searching all night for the missing man. > Another witness said that on Sunday evening, April 3rd, he was acting > as Barrack Orderly. At 6.30 p.m. Constable Duffy reported to him that > he was leaving the barrack. He was dressed in civilian clothes. He was > then in good health. > In answer to a question, the witness stated that he did not know if > Constable Duffy was armed or not. > [ Note added in 2010 ; In 1972 I interviewed one of the men who was > involved in the killing of James Duffy, he confirmed to me that > Constable Duffy was unarmed.] A military officer told the inquest that > on the morning of the 4th of April he found a body lying in a ploughed > field, about 800 yards from the main road. about a mile from Killeshin > Chapel, the body viewed by the court was the one he found. > THE BULLETS. > Another constable told how he found the bullet cases ( produced ) on > the road. There were thirteen found. They were found near the > milestone between Kileshin and Mr Fitzpatrick's public house. > One lot of four was found first and another lot about 100 yards further on. > They were Belgian revolver cartridges, marked with letters and the > number 450, and made in Liege. > Medical evidence was that there were three bullet wounds on the face ; > another wound on the back of the head - in the centre ; two bullet > wounds in the right buttock ; two bullet wounds in the left buttock ; > one bullet wound in the left side, opposite the heart. One wound on > the chin showed that the bullet was fired at very close quarters as > the edges of the wound were singed. > The cause of death was shock due to bullet wounds. > The Court then adjourned to the Curragh for the purpose of taking the > evidence of the chief witness, Henry James. 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There is now a page on the Carlow website for Lawry's Lane along with a map and a picture: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Lawrys_Lane.htm There is also some information on past residences who lived in the street up until 1911. Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

just to clarify Cathy, his father was Francis Duffy. I am also interested in this because when I was young I heard several old people say "they should never have shot Duffy". I have asked for his Service Number, possibly Terry can help fill a few gaps. On 26 April 2012 19:49, Andy Goss <[email protected]> wrote: > What we know from this: > James' father was Francis Coffey who was a small farmer and horse dealer. > James had a sister. > The family was from Tonniscoffey, Monaghan > James was unmarried. > He died in April 1921, age 30. > He joined the Royal Irish Constabulary Army the December 28th 1920 > He was a Sergeant in the Royal Garrison Army before his time in the Royal > Irish Constabulary Army where he got a medal for bravery. > > A wealth of information-I hope you make the connection, Mike. > > Regards, > Cathy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terry Curran > Sent: 26 April 2012 19:10 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] James Duffy 1891- 1921. > > If the Medal card shows he was awarded the Military Medal MM then it pretty > much sure its the same man, can you tell me his service number > > all the best Terry > > > ________________________________ > From: michael purcell <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2012, 17:01 > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] James Duffy 1891- 1921. > > Can any reader help Mike with his search ? > hello mike. > my name is also Mike and over the past few weeks I have been tring to find > information on James Duffy who is a relative of mine. The James Duffy i > have > been looking for was from Monaghan and had joined the RGA in 1914. So far I > have got his > 1) Baptism Cert > 2)Medal Card from WW1 > 3) History of his time in the war. > I have also 2 of his medals from the war. He was a Sergent in the R.G.A and > was discharged in Sept 1918. so I do not know what happened to him after > 1918 . if this is the same person who died in Calow i would like to find > out > more about him. > my father's mother was sister to James.. > My father was born in 1933, > if you have any more information on James i would love to hear it. I am > also > living in Monaghan, not far from where James was born. Could he be the man > named in this report published on the Carlow IGP ?. > Nationalist and Leinster Times. > 9th April 1921. > CARLOW R.I.C. CONSTABLE KILLED. > CIVILIAN SERIOUSLY WOUNDED. > On Sunday night at about 8.30 p.m. (Summer Time), Constable James Duffy, > Royal Irish Constabulary, Carlow, was shot dead between the Mall and > Killeshin, Queen's County, about two miles from Carlow. > Henry James, Graiguecullen, who was with the constable was rather seriously > wounded. The only source of information, of course, is Henry James himself. > It appears that the two men were out walking on Sunday evening, and finally > went into Mr Fitzpatrick's licensed premises to have a drink. Then they > left, evidently intending to be back in Carlow before the Curfew hour. > At about a quarter of a mile on the Carlow side of Fitzpatricks they were > held up by three armed men who had been sitting in the hedge. Two of them > fired at Constable Duffy, and the third attacked Henry James. > Several shots were fired. Both men were hit, Henry James receiving two > bullets, one in the shoulder, and the other in the hip. > Both men ran across the roadside fence in opposite directions. > Henry James ran in the direction of a farmer's house near by, where he got > a > cap - having lost his own in the pursuit - and then made his way to another > house in the district. The family had retired to bed. Henry threw gravel at > the window and was immediately admitted by the owner, who promptly went to > Carlow town for Dr. Doyle. > The doctor was quickly on the scene, as were also a party of military > soldiers. > The wounded man, Henry James, was of course unaware of his companion's > fate > or whereabouts, but stated that while he was escaping across the fields he > heard about ten more shots in quick succession. > The military proceeded to search for the missing constable and returned to > the house about 1.30 a.m., having failed to find him. > Henry James was removed to the military barracks in Carlow, and > subsequently > conveyed to the military hospital at the Curragh Camp. > OFFICIAL REPORT. > The following report was issued by Dublin Castle on Monday :- " Constable > James Duffy, Carlow, whilst out walking on Sunday night near Killeshin was > fired on. Henry James, a civilian, who was with him, was wounded in the hip > by the bullet intended for the constable" > "Yesterday morning the dead body of Constable Duffy was found in a ploughed > field about half a mile from the place he had been fired on. > He was, apparently trying to make his escape from the first fire when he > was > followed and killed. There was a large number of bullet wounds on his body > and head. > THE FUNERAL. > On Thursday morning the military funeral of the late Constable Duffy took > place. > At both Masses in the Cathedral that morning the Clergy intimated that they > were asked by the military authorities to announce that all business places > in the town should close from 10 a.m. to 12oc, noon. > Prayers were asked for the repose of the soul of Constable Duffy at each > Mass. > Since coming to Carlow, he had been a frequent attendant at his religious > duties and received Holy Communion in the Cathedral on Sunday morning, the > day he was shot. > All shops, factories, etc., closed down at 10 a.m. > Shortly after 11oc the funeral procession commenced from the Military > Barracks, the route being Barrack Street, Tullow Street, Dublin Street, > Dublin Road to the Railway Station, where the remains were entrained for > Kingsbridge and thence to the family burial ground in Counrty Monaghan. > There was a large concourse of people from the town and district in > attendance. > A large force of Royal Irish Constabulary marched before and after the > motor > hearse, on which was the coffin, draped in the Union Jack. > The rear was made up of the Carlow members of the "Comrades of the Great > War" under the command of Col. Browne - Clayton, D.S.O. > The chief mourners were the deceased's father, Francis Duffy and Miss > Duffy, > sister. > Rev. A. Lynam, Adm. and Rev. J. Killian, C.C. walked after the hearse. > The last prayers for the dead were said at the Military Barracks and at the > Railway Station by Rev Lynam and Rev Killian. > Several wreaths were placed on the coffin - R.I.P. > > MILITARY INQUEST IN CARLOW. > At the Carlow Military Barracks on Wednesday a Military Court of Inquiry > was > held concerning the death of Constable James Duffy, whose dead body was > found in a ploughed field near Killeshin on Monday morning. > Constable James Duffy had joined the Royal Irish Constabulary on December > 28th 1920, and had been in the British army - Royal Garrison Artillery - in > which he held the rank of Sergeant, and fought during the Great War and > received the military medal for bravery. > He was aged 30 in January last, and was unmarried. > The first witness sworn was the dead constable's father, Francis Duffy, a > small farmer and horse dealer from Tonniscoffey, County Monaghan, who > identified the body as that of his son James Duffy. > He had not seen his son since January , when he joined the R.I.C. > A police witness stated that James Duffy came to Carlow on January 19th > last > and was stationed in Carlow up to his death. > On Sunday evening April 3rd, he granted James Duffy leave of absence from > 6.30 till 9 p.m.. He did not see him again until he saw his dead body at > 7.30 a.m. on Monday, April 4th, being brought to Carlow Barracks on a > tender. > They had been searching all night for the missing man. > Another witness said that on Sunday evening, April 3rd, he was acting as > Barrack Orderly. At 6.30 p.m. Constable Duffy reported to him that he was > leaving the barrack. He was dressed in civilian clothes. He was then in > good > health. > In answer to a question, the witness stated that he did not know if > Constable Duffy was armed or not. > [ Note added in 2010 ; In 1972 I interviewed one of the men who was > involved > in the killing of James Duffy, he confirmed to me that Constable Duffy was > unarmed.] A military officer told the inquest that on the morning of the > 4th > of April he found a body lying in a ploughed field, about 800 yards from > the > main road. about a mile from Killeshin Chapel, the body viewed by the court > was the one he found. > THE BULLETS. > Another constable told how he found the bullet cases ( produced ) on the > road. There were thirteen found. They were found near the milestone between > Kileshin and Mr Fitzpatrick's public house. > One lot of four was found first and another lot about 100 yards further on. > They were Belgian revolver cartridges, marked with letters and the number > 450, and made in Liege. > Medical evidence was that there were three bullet wounds on the face ; > another wound on the back of the head - in the centre ; two bullet wounds > in > the right buttock ; two bullet wounds in the left buttock ; one bullet > wound > in the left side, opposite the heart. One wound on the chin showed that the > bullet was fired at very close quarters as the edges of the wound were > singed. > The cause of death was shock due to bullet wounds. > The Court then adjourned to the Curragh for the purpose of taking the > evidence of the chief witness, Henry James. 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What we know from this: James' father was Francis Coffey who was a small farmer and horse dealer. James had a sister. The family was from Tonniscoffey, Monaghan James was unmarried. He died in April 1921, age 30. He joined the Royal Irish Constabulary Army the December 28th 1920 He was a Sergeant in the Royal Garrison Army before his time in the Royal Irish Constabulary Army where he got a medal for bravery. A wealth of information-I hope you make the connection, Mike. Regards, Cathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terry Curran Sent: 26 April 2012 19:10 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] James Duffy 1891- 1921. If the Medal card shows he was awarded the Military Medal MM then it pretty much sure its the same man, can you tell me his service number all the best Terry ________________________________ From: michael purcell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2012, 17:01 Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] James Duffy 1891- 1921. Can any reader help Mike with his search ? hello mike. my name is also Mike and over the past few weeks I have been tring to find information on James Duffy who is a relative of mine. The James Duffy i have been looking for was from Monaghan and had joined the RGA in 1914. So far I have got his 1) Baptism Cert 2)Medal Card from WW1 3) History of his time in the war. I have also 2 of his medals from the war. He was a Sergent in the R.G.A and was discharged in Sept 1918. so I do not know what happened to him after 1918 . if this is the same person who died in Calow i would like to find out more about him. my father's mother was sister to James.. My father was born in 1933, if you have any more information on James i would love to hear it. I am also living in Monaghan, not far from where James was born. Could he be the man named in this report published on the Carlow IGP ?. Nationalist and Leinster Times. 9th April 1921. CARLOW R.I.C. CONSTABLE KILLED. CIVILIAN SERIOUSLY WOUNDED. On Sunday night at about 8.30 p.m. (Summer Time), Constable James Duffy, Royal Irish Constabulary, Carlow, was shot dead between the Mall and Killeshin, Queen's County, about two miles from Carlow. Henry James, Graiguecullen, who was with the constable was rather seriously wounded. The only source of information, of course, is Henry James himself. It appears that the two men were out walking on Sunday evening, and finally went into Mr Fitzpatrick's licensed premises to have a drink. Then they left, evidently intending to be back in Carlow before the Curfew hour. At about a quarter of a mile on the Carlow side of Fitzpatricks they were held up by three armed men who had been sitting in the hedge. Two of them fired at Constable Duffy, and the third attacked Henry James. Several shots were fired. Both men were hit, Henry James receiving two bullets, one in the shoulder, and the other in the hip. Both men ran across the roadside fence in opposite directions. Henry James ran in the direction of a farmer's house near by, where he got a cap - having lost his own in the pursuit - and then made his way to another house in the district. The family had retired to bed. Henry threw gravel at the window and was immediately admitted by the owner, who promptly went to Carlow town for Dr. Doyle. The doctor was quickly on the scene, as were also a party of military soldiers. The wounded man, Henry James,  was of course unaware of his companion's fate or whereabouts, but stated that while he was escaping across the fields he heard about ten more shots in quick succession. The military proceeded to search for the missing constable and returned to the house about 1.30 a.m., having failed to find him. Henry James was removed to the military barracks in Carlow, and subsequently conveyed to the military hospital at the Curragh Camp. OFFICIAL REPORT. The following report was issued by Dublin Castle on Monday :- " Constable James Duffy, Carlow, whilst out walking on Sunday night near Killeshin was fired on. Henry James, a civilian, who was with him, was wounded in the hip by the bullet intended for the constable" "Yesterday morning the dead body of Constable Duffy was found in a ploughed field about half a mile from the place he had been fired on. He was, apparently trying to make his escape from the first fire when he was followed and killed. There was a large number of bullet wounds on his body and head. THE FUNERAL. On Thursday morning the military funeral of the late Constable Duffy took place. At both Masses in the Cathedral that morning the Clergy intimated that they were asked by the military authorities to announce that all business places in the town should close from 10 a.m. to 12oc, noon. Prayers were asked for the repose of the soul of Constable Duffy at each Mass. Since coming to Carlow, he had been a frequent attendant at his religious duties and received Holy Communion in the Cathedral on Sunday morning, the day he was shot. All shops, factories, etc., closed down at 10 a.m. Shortly after 11oc the funeral procession commenced from the Military Barracks, the route being Barrack Street, Tullow Street, Dublin Street, Dublin Road to the Railway Station, where the remains were entrained for Kingsbridge and thence to the family burial ground in Counrty Monaghan. There was a large concourse of people from the town and district in attendance. A large force of Royal Irish Constabulary marched before and after the motor hearse, on which was the coffin,  draped in the Union Jack. The rear was made up of the Carlow members of the "Comrades of the Great War"  under the command of Col. Browne - Clayton, D.S.O. The chief mourners were the deceased's father, Francis Duffy and Miss Duffy, sister. Rev. A. Lynam, Adm. and Rev. J. Killian, C.C. walked after the hearse. The last prayers for the dead were said at the Military Barracks and at the Railway Station by Rev Lynam and Rev Killian. Several wreaths were placed on the coffin - R.I.P. MILITARY INQUEST IN CARLOW. At the Carlow Military Barracks on Wednesday a Military Court of Inquiry was held concerning the death of Constable James Duffy, whose dead body was found in a ploughed field near Killeshin on Monday morning. Constable James Duffy had joined the Royal Irish Constabulary on December 28th 1920, and had been in the British army - Royal Garrison Artillery - in which he held the rank of Sergeant, and fought during the Great War and received the military medal for bravery. He was aged 30 in January last, and was unmarried. The first witness sworn was the dead constable's father, Francis Duffy, a small farmer and horse dealer from Tonniscoffey, County Monaghan, who identified the body as that of his son James Duffy. He had not seen his son since January , when he joined the R.I.C. A police witness stated that James Duffy came to Carlow on January 19th last and was stationed in Carlow up to his death. On Sunday evening April 3rd, he granted James Duffy leave of absence from 6.30 till 9 p.m.. He did not see him again until he saw his dead body at 7.30 a.m. on Monday, April 4th, being brought to Carlow Barracks on a tender. They had been searching all night for the missing man. Another witness said that on Sunday evening, April 3rd, he was acting as Barrack Orderly. At 6.30 p.m. Constable Duffy reported to him that he was leaving the barrack. He was dressed in civilian clothes. He was then in good health. In answer to a question, the witness stated that he did not know if Constable Duffy was armed or not. [ Note added in 2010 ; In 1972 I interviewed one of the men who was involved in the killing of James Duffy,  he confirmed to me that Constable Duffy was unarmed.] A military officer told the inquest that on the morning of the 4th of April he found a body lying in a ploughed field, about 800 yards from the main road. about a mile from Killeshin Chapel, the body viewed by the court was the one he found. THE BULLETS. Another constable told how he found the bullet cases ( produced ) on the road. There were thirteen found. They were found near the milestone between Kileshin and Mr Fitzpatrick's public house. One lot of four was found first and another lot about 100 yards further on. They were Belgian revolver cartridges, marked with letters and the number 450, and made in Liege. Medical evidence was that there were three bullet wounds on the face ; another wound on the back of the head - in the centre ; two bullet wounds in the right buttock ; two bullet wounds in the left buttock ; one bullet wound in the left side, opposite the heart. One wound on the chin showed that the bullet was fired at very close quarters as the edges of the wound were singed. The cause of death was shock due to bullet wounds. The Court then adjourned to the Curragh for the purpose of taking the evidence of the chief witness, Henry James. 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If the Medal card shows he was awarded the Military Medal MM then it pretty much sure its the same man, can you tell me his service number all the best Terry ________________________________ From: michael purcell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2012, 17:01 Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] James Duffy 1891- 1921. Can any reader help Mike with his search ? hello mike. my name is also Mike and over the past few weeks I have been tring to find information on James Duffy who is a relative of mine. The James Duffy i have been looking for was from Monaghan and had joined the RGA in 1914. So far I have got his 1) Baptism Cert 2)Medal Card from WW1 3) History of his time in the war. I have also 2 of his medals from the war. He was a Sergent in the R.G.A and was discharged in Sept 1918. so I do not know what happened to him after 1918 . if this is the same person who died in Calow i would like to find out more about him. my father's mother was sister to James.. My father was born in 1933, if you have any more information on James i would love to hear it. I am also living in Monaghan, not far from where James was born. Could he be the man named in this report published on the Carlow IGP ?. Nationalist and Leinster Times. 9th April 1921. CARLOW R.I.C. CONSTABLE KILLED. CIVILIAN SERIOUSLY WOUNDED. On Sunday night at about 8.30 p.m. (Summer Time), Constable James Duffy, Royal Irish Constabulary, Carlow, was shot dead between the Mall and Killeshin, Queen's County, about two miles from Carlow. Henry James, Graiguecullen, who was with the constable was rather seriously wounded. The only source of information, of course, is Henry James himself. It appears that the two men were out walking on Sunday evening, and finally went into Mr Fitzpatrick's licensed premises to have a drink. Then they left, evidently intending to be back in Carlow before the Curfew hour. At about a quarter of a mile on the Carlow side of Fitzpatricks they were held up by three armed men who had been sitting in the hedge. Two of them fired at Constable Duffy, and the third attacked Henry James. Several shots were fired. Both men were hit, Henry James receiving two bullets, one in the shoulder, and the other in the hip. Both men ran across the roadside fence in opposite directions. Henry James ran in the direction of a farmer's house near by, where he got a cap - having lost his own in the pursuit - and then made his way to another house in the district. The family had retired to bed. Henry threw gravel at the window and was immediately admitted by the owner, who promptly went to Carlow town for Dr. Doyle. The doctor was quickly on the scene, as were also a party of military soldiers. The wounded man, Henry James,  was of course unaware of his companion's fate or whereabouts, but stated that while he was escaping across the fields he heard about ten more shots in quick succession. The military proceeded to search for the missing constable and returned to the house about 1.30 a.m., having failed to find him. Henry James was removed to the military barracks in Carlow, and subsequently conveyed to the military hospital at the Curragh Camp. OFFICIAL REPORT. The following report was issued by Dublin Castle on Monday :- " Constable James Duffy, Carlow, whilst out walking on Sunday night near Killeshin was fired on. Henry James, a civilian, who was with him, was wounded in the hip by the bullet intended for the constable" "Yesterday morning the dead body of Constable Duffy was found in a ploughed field about half a mile from the place he had been fired on. He was, apparently trying to make his escape from the first fire when he was followed and killed. There was a large number of bullet wounds on his body and head. THE FUNERAL. On Thursday morning the military funeral of the late Constable Duffy took place. At both Masses in the Cathedral that morning the Clergy intimated that they were asked by the military authorities to announce that all business places in the town should close from 10 a.m. to 12oc, noon. Prayers were asked for the repose of the soul of Constable Duffy at each Mass. Since coming to Carlow, he had been a frequent attendant at his religious duties and received Holy Communion in the Cathedral on Sunday morning, the day he was shot. All shops, factories, etc., closed down at 10 a.m. Shortly after 11oc the funeral procession commenced from the Military Barracks, the route being Barrack Street, Tullow Street, Dublin Street, Dublin Road to the Railway Station, where the remains were entrained for Kingsbridge and thence to the family burial ground in Counrty Monaghan. There was a large concourse of people from the town and district in attendance. A large force of Royal Irish Constabulary marched before and after the motor hearse, on which was the coffin,  draped in the Union Jack. The rear was made up of the Carlow members of the "Comrades of the Great War"  under the command of Col. Browne - Clayton, D.S.O. The chief mourners were the deceased's father, Francis Duffy and Miss Duffy, sister. Rev. A. Lynam, Adm. and Rev. J. Killian, C.C. walked after the hearse. The last prayers for the dead were said at the Military Barracks and at the Railway Station by Rev Lynam and Rev Killian. Several wreaths were placed on the coffin - R.I.P. MILITARY INQUEST IN CARLOW. At the Carlow Military Barracks on Wednesday a Military Court of Inquiry was held concerning the death of Constable James Duffy, whose dead body was found in a ploughed field near Killeshin on Monday morning. Constable James Duffy had joined the Royal Irish Constabulary on December 28th 1920, and had been in the British army - Royal Garrison Artillery - in which he held the rank of Sergeant, and fought during the Great War and received the military medal for bravery. He was aged 30 in January last, and was unmarried. The first witness sworn was the dead constable's father, Francis Duffy, a small farmer and horse dealer from Tonniscoffey, County Monaghan, who identified the body as that of his son James Duffy. He had not seen his son since January , when he joined the R.I.C. A police witness stated that James Duffy came to Carlow on January 19th last and was stationed in Carlow up to his death. On Sunday evening April 3rd, he granted James Duffy leave of absence from 6.30 till 9 p.m.. He did not see him again until he saw his dead body at 7.30 a.m. on Monday, April 4th, being brought to Carlow Barracks on a tender. They had been searching all night for the missing man. Another witness said that on Sunday evening, April 3rd, he was acting as Barrack Orderly. At 6.30 p.m. Constable Duffy reported to him that he was leaving the barrack. He was dressed in civilian clothes. He was then in good health. In answer to a question, the witness stated that he did not know if Constable Duffy was armed or not. [ Note added in 2010 ; In 1972 I interviewed one of the men who was involved in the killing of James Duffy,  he confirmed to me that Constable Duffy was unarmed.] A military officer told the inquest that on the morning of the 4th of April he found a body lying in a ploughed field, about 800 yards from the main road. about a mile from Killeshin Chapel, the body viewed by the court was the one he found. THE BULLETS. Another constable told how he found the bullet cases ( produced ) on the road. There were thirteen found. They were found near the milestone between Kileshin and Mr Fitzpatrick's public house. One lot of four was found first and another lot about 100 yards further on. They were Belgian revolver cartridges, marked with letters and the number 450, and made in Liege. Medical evidence was that there were three bullet wounds on the face ; another wound on the back of the head - in the centre ; two bullet wounds in the right buttock ; two bullet wounds in the left buttock ; one bullet wound in the left side, opposite the heart. One wound on the chin showed that the bullet was fired at very close quarters as the edges of the wound were singed. The cause of death was shock due to bullet wounds. The Court then adjourned to the Curragh for the purpose of taking the evidence of the chief witness, Henry James. The verdict will be announced in due course. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can any reader help Mike with his search ? hello mike. my name is also Mike and over the past few weeks I have been tring to find information on James Duffy who is a relative of mine. The James Duffy i have been looking for was from Monaghan and had joined the RGA in 1914. So far I have got his 1) Baptism Cert 2)Medal Card from WW1 3) History of his time in the war. I have also 2 of his medals from the war. He was a Sergent in the R.G.A and was discharged in Sept 1918. so I do not know what happened to him after 1918 . if this is the same person who died in Calow i would like to find out more about him. my father's mother was sister to James.. My father was born in 1933, if you have any more information on James i would love to hear it. I am also living in Monaghan, not far from where James was born. Could he be the man named in this report published on the Carlow IGP ?. Nationalist and Leinster Times. 9th April 1921. CARLOW R.I.C. CONSTABLE KILLED. CIVILIAN SERIOUSLY WOUNDED. On Sunday night at about 8.30 p.m. (Summer Time), Constable James Duffy, Royal Irish Constabulary, Carlow, was shot dead between the Mall and Killeshin, Queen's County, about two miles from Carlow. Henry James, Graiguecullen, who was with the constable was rather seriously wounded. The only source of information, of course, is Henry James himself. It appears that the two men were out walking on Sunday evening, and finally went into Mr Fitzpatrick's licensed premises to have a drink. Then they left, evidently intending to be back in Carlow before the Curfew hour. At about a quarter of a mile on the Carlow side of Fitzpatricks they were held up by three armed men who had been sitting in the hedge. Two of them fired at Constable Duffy, and the third attacked Henry James. Several shots were fired. Both men were hit, Henry James receiving two bullets, one in the shoulder, and the other in the hip. Both men ran across the roadside fence in opposite directions. Henry James ran in the direction of a farmer's house near by, where he got a cap - having lost his own in the pursuit - and then made his way to another house in the district. The family had retired to bed. Henry threw gravel at the window and was immediately admitted by the owner, who promptly went to Carlow town for Dr. Doyle. The doctor was quickly on the scene, as were also a party of military soldiers. The wounded man, Henry James, was of course unaware of his companion's fate or whereabouts, but stated that while he was escaping across the fields he heard about ten more shots in quick succession. The military proceeded to search for the missing constable and returned to the house about 1.30 a.m., having failed to find him. Henry James was removed to the military barracks in Carlow, and subsequently conveyed to the military hospital at the Curragh Camp. OFFICIAL REPORT. The following report was issued by Dublin Castle on Monday :- " Constable James Duffy, Carlow, whilst out walking on Sunday night near Killeshin was fired on. Henry James, a civilian, who was with him, was wounded in the hip by the bullet intended for the constable" "Yesterday morning the dead body of Constable Duffy was found in a ploughed field about half a mile from the place he had been fired on. He was, apparently trying to make his escape from the first fire when he was followed and killed. There was a large number of bullet wounds on his body and head. THE FUNERAL. On Thursday morning the military funeral of the late Constable Duffy took place. At both Masses in the Cathedral that morning the Clergy intimated that they were asked by the military authorities to announce that all business places in the town should close from 10 a.m. to 12oc, noon. Prayers were asked for the repose of the soul of Constable Duffy at each Mass. Since coming to Carlow, he had been a frequent attendant at his religious duties and received Holy Communion in the Cathedral on Sunday morning, the day he was shot. All shops, factories, etc., closed down at 10 a.m. Shortly after 11oc the funeral procession commenced from the Military Barracks, the route being Barrack Street, Tullow Street, Dublin Street, Dublin Road to the Railway Station, where the remains were entrained for Kingsbridge and thence to the family burial ground in Counrty Monaghan. There was a large concourse of people from the town and district in attendance. A large force of Royal Irish Constabulary marched before and after the motor hearse, on which was the coffin, draped in the Union Jack. The rear was made up of the Carlow members of the "Comrades of the Great War" under the command of Col. Browne - Clayton, D.S.O. The chief mourners were the deceased's father, Francis Duffy and Miss Duffy, sister. Rev. A. Lynam, Adm. and Rev. J. Killian, C.C. walked after the hearse. The last prayers for the dead were said at the Military Barracks and at the Railway Station by Rev Lynam and Rev Killian. Several wreaths were placed on the coffin - R.I.P. MILITARY INQUEST IN CARLOW. At the Carlow Military Barracks on Wednesday a Military Court of Inquiry was held concerning the death of Constable James Duffy, whose dead body was found in a ploughed field near Killeshin on Monday morning. Constable James Duffy had joined the Royal Irish Constabulary on December 28th 1920, and had been in the British army - Royal Garrison Artillery - in which he held the rank of Sergeant, and fought during the Great War and received the military medal for bravery. He was aged 30 in January last, and was unmarried. The first witness sworn was the dead constable's father, Francis Duffy, a small farmer and horse dealer from Tonniscoffey, County Monaghan, who identified the body as that of his son James Duffy. He had not seen his son since January , when he joined the R.I.C. A police witness stated that James Duffy came to Carlow on January 19th last and was stationed in Carlow up to his death. On Sunday evening April 3rd, he granted James Duffy leave of absence from 6.30 till 9 p.m.. He did not see him again until he saw his dead body at 7.30 a.m. on Monday, April 4th, being brought to Carlow Barracks on a tender. They had been searching all night for the missing man. Another witness said that on Sunday evening, April 3rd, he was acting as Barrack Orderly. At 6.30 p.m. Constable Duffy reported to him that he was leaving the barrack. He was dressed in civilian clothes. He was then in good health. In answer to a question, the witness stated that he did not know if Constable Duffy was armed or not. [ Note added in 2010 ; In 1972 I interviewed one of the men who was involved in the killing of James Duffy, he confirmed to me that Constable Duffy was unarmed.] A military officer told the inquest that on the morning of the 4th of April he found a body lying in a ploughed field, about 800 yards from the main road. about a mile from Killeshin Chapel, the body viewed by the court was the one he found. THE BULLETS. Another constable told how he found the bullet cases ( produced ) on the road. There were thirteen found. They were found near the milestone between Kileshin and Mr Fitzpatrick's public house. One lot of four was found first and another lot about 100 yards further on. They were Belgian revolver cartridges, marked with letters and the number 450, and made in Liege. Medical evidence was that there were three bullet wounds on the face ; another wound on the back of the head - in the centre ; two bullet wounds in the right buttock ; two bullet wounds in the left buttock ; one bullet wound in the left side, opposite the heart. One wound on the chin showed that the bullet was fired at very close quarters as the edges of the wound were singed. The cause of death was shock due to bullet wounds. The Court then adjourned to the Curragh for the purpose of taking the evidence of the chief witness, Henry James. The verdict will be announced in due course.

according to my 1850 map it looks like lawry's lane is behind where dempsey's yard is now!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "CARLOMAN2" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 24 April, 2012 6:32:14 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Lawry's Lane Carlow Lowry's Lane used to go through what is now St. Patrick's college to the old Dublin road somewhere opposite the Courthouse. During the 1798 rising some of the united Irishmen escaped through the lane from Tullow street. This is another item of Carlow history that should be highlighted for locals and tourists . PD On 23 April 2012 21:18, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > Lowry's Lane is now the store yard adjoining and owned by Dempsey's > Hardware shop on Tullow Street. Carlow. > > On 23 April 2012 20:30, Michael Brennan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Can someone tell me where Lawry's Lane in Carlow used to be and what is > it > > called now. > > > > Its mentioned in Griffiths Valuation and the 1901 census. > > > > Regards > > Michael Brennan > > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > > My Laois Page: > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Anna!

I think I can provide some help regarding Georgina Henrietta Gurly who is a distant relation by marriage. To explain; my GGF Simeon Houghton Clarke had 10 or 11 children one of whom, Elisabeth Anne Clarke b. 1825, married Walter Bagnal Gurley b. 1800, whose first wife was Lucinda Whitcroft, on 25th May 1852. The age difference did not seem to be a problem as the marriage produced 6 daughters: Catherine (Kate) Gurly b 1853 who was part of GBS's household for many years Arabella Sophie Clarke Gurly b 1856 Georgina Henrietta Clarke Gurly b 1858 Charlotte Olivia Clarke Gurly b 1860 Constance Ann (Nannie) Gurly b 1862 Florence Beatrice Clarke Gurly b1866. There was an article "Shaw's six step-aunts" in Carloviana December 1956 which confirms some of the above but I would welcome any other information about my six great aunts. Bryan Clarke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Turtle Bunbury" <[email protected]> To: "Carlow Rootsweb" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:08 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] The Gurly Family Hi all, I am helping a group of George Bernard Shaw historians with their enquires as a favour. They are particularly interested in Shaw's mother's family, the Gurlys of Carlow, and the relationships between her siblings - the children of Walter Bagnall Gurly. To quote John McIntyre from this group: 'We already know that this family moved around before settling in Carlow from Dan Laurence's extensive research, but we do not know what forced some of them like Arabella and Georgie to uproot themselves and move to live with Shaw's mother in London. Also we want to know if anything was ever reported about Arabella's husband John Duke Gillmore in the newspapers of the day - his involvement with the Oughterard Poor House, and any scandal that may have occurred involving finances, that may have forced hi to move to Pittsburgh in 1892, and then move to Saskatchewan, Canada later on. Personally, I would like to know more about Georgina Henrietta Gurly - 'Georgie' because although she was always regarded as Shaw's favourite aunt, we know very little about her.' Perhaps someone on Rootsweb can throw more light on some of these individuals? Anything connected with the Gurly family in Carlow could be of great help in filling in some blank spaces ... And anyone interested in more on the Gurly family can look at: http://www.geni.com/people/Walter-Gurly/6000000000973001816 Or here: http://www.geni.com/people/Lucinda-Gurly/6000000001577072652 Cheerio for now, Turtle Turtle Bunbury www.turtlebunbury.com Turtle Bunbury www.turtlebunbury.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I am helping a group of George Bernard Shaw historians with their enquires as a favour. They are particularly interested in Shaw's mother's family, the Gurlys of Carlow, and the relationships between her siblings - the children of Walter Bagnall Gurly. To quote John McIntyre from this group: ‘We already know that this family moved around before settling in Carlow from Dan Laurence's extensive research, but we do not know what forced some of them like Arabella and Georgie to uproot themselves and move to live with Shaw's mother in London. Also we want to know if anything was ever reported about Arabella's husband John Duke Gillmore in the newspapers of the day - his involvement with the Oughterard Poor House, and any scandal that may have occurred involving finances, that may have forced hi to move to Pittsburgh in 1892, and then move to Saskatchewan, Canada later on. Personally, I would like to know more about Georgina Henrietta Gurly - 'Georgie' because although she was always regarded as Shaw's favourite aunt, we know very little about her.’ Perhaps someone on Rootsweb can throw more light on some of these individuals? Anything connected with the Gurly family in Carlow could be of great help in filling in some blank spaces ... And anyone interested in more on the Gurly family can look at: http://www.geni.com/people/Walter-Gurly/6000000000973001816 Or here: http://www.geni.com/people/Lucinda-Gurly/6000000001577072652 Cheerio for now, Turtle Turtle Bunbury www.turtlebunbury.com Turtle Bunbury www.turtlebunbury.com

Same old story "runners" coming into town with no regard for history, imagine someone in the planning department allowing the old gaol of 1798 to be demolished. Why did the reverent gentleman remove the flags? The past is another country and should be respected. For those of you who may not know "runner" is the Carlow term for "blow in" Peter *(Walker) *

Hi Folks, I came across a clip form Pathe News from 1926 showing Bishop Foley turning the sod at Carlow Sugar factory. The link is at : http://britishpathe.com/video/new-irish-industry/query/carlow Regards, Pat

Lowry's Lane used to go through what is now St. Patrick's college to the old Dublin road somewhere opposite the Courthouse. During the 1798 rising some of the united Irishmen escaped through the lane from Tullow street. This is another item of Carlow history that should be highlighted for locals and tourists . PD On 23 April 2012 21:18, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > Lowry's Lane is now the store yard adjoining and owned by Dempsey's > Hardware shop on Tullow Street. Carlow. > > On 23 April 2012 20:30, Michael Brennan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Can someone tell me where Lawry's Lane in Carlow used to be and what is > it > > called now. > > > > Its mentioned in Griffiths Valuation and the 1901 census. > > > > Regards > > Michael Brennan > > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > > My Laois Page: > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A new minister arrived in Carlow, circa 1975, and had St Mary's church reordered, part of the refurbishment was the removal of the flags of various militias and regiments that hung out from the wall, such displays were a common sight in most churches of the Church of Ireland, honouring various military regiments possibly commanded, joined by or died for by family members of the congregation. On 23 April 2012 06:12, CARLOMAN2 <[email protected]> wrote: > Why were they removed ? > > > > PD > > On 19 April 2012 21:54, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > the 1779 County Carlow Legion Banner was not sold yesterday. > > It might end up in the Carlow County Museum yet !. > > I believe it used to hang from a bracket on the wall in St. Mary's > Church, > > Castle Hill, Carlow alongside three other Militia- type banners, they > were > > removed in 1972. > > > > On 18 April 2012 18:36, Andy Goss <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > For the Carlow Museum perhaps. > > > I see on their site that they also sold a letter from Kevin Barry > written > > > the day before his execution for €87,000. I wonder who bought that > > > remarkable record. > > > Cathy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of michael purcell > > > Sent: 18 April 2012 9:32 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Rochford+Bunbury 1779. > > > > > > Adam's Auction today, > > > Wednesday 18th April 2012 > > > ...Lot 631 > > > > > > > > > > > > An early and rare County Carlow Legion Banner embroidered on silk > > > depicting Hibernia leaning on a Harp, holding a staff and flag in the > > left > > > hand and a leafy sprig in the right hand. The Motto 'be true to > yourself' > > > is inside a border of shamrocks. The Banner is oval (71 x 66cm). The > > Carlow > > > Legion was a volunteer unit formed in September 1779 under Colonel J. > > > Rochford and Major Henry Bunbury" > > > > > > > > > > > > €5000-6000 [image: Lot: > > > 631]<http://www.adams.ie/BidCat/detail.asp?SaleRef=7030&LotRef=631> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > No virus found in this message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4943 - Release Date: > 04/17/12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lowry's Lane is now the store yard adjoining and owned by Dempsey's Hardware shop on Tullow Street. Carlow. On 23 April 2012 20:30, Michael Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: > Can someone tell me where Lawry's Lane in Carlow used to be and what is it > called now. > > Its mentioned in Griffiths Valuation and the 1901 census. > > Regards > Michael Brennan > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

ha ha ha .................puts me in mind of the song "fine big strong lump of an agricultural Irish girl.....neither paint nor powder and her figure is all her own......for she can kick that leg whoo .......... you think it was a kick of a mule you got..........her legs are all her figure and all is Mary Ann Malone"..........ha ha ha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Friend of Carlow" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 21 April, 2012 12:50:09 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1801, Ryan+Clowry+Nowlan+Stewart+Burton. Pat Purcell Papers. 1801. The Information of Michael Ryan of the Barrack Street in the Town of Carlow, Huxter, taken before Charles Burton, Bart, One of His Majestys Justices of the Peace for Carlow. The Informant duly Sworn on the Holy Evangelists and Examined Sayth, that on 5th day of June 1801 in the early hours of the same day James Clowry , Leather Dealer, of Pollerton in the Town of Carlow alongwith George Clowry, Leather Dealer, father of the aforesaid James, alongwith Peter Clowry, Smith, and Mary Clowry, Seamtress, siblings to the aforesaid James Clowry all of Pollerton in the Town of Carlow came to the shop of Michael Ryan at the Barrack Street and demanded the Satisfaction of Mary Ryan, daughter of Michael Ryan, who about five years ago was promised in marriage to James Clowry. The aforesaid George Clowry, father of James Clowry called on Michael Ryan and desired him to come out unto the street and that he ( George Clowry ) would tear the head off his body before a Clowry would be passed over by a Ryan or the blood of them, Michael Ryan declined the challenge and told George Clowry that he had struck a marriage settlement with him all of 5 years ago for his daughter but now that she had become a strong limbed woman he has settled her for marriage with a farmer ( Denis Nowlan of TemplePeter, Farmer. ) and that it is now his will and intention that he would return the sum of Twenty Guineas to George Clowry as soon as the farmer Nowlan would call to settle the matter. Upon hearing this George Clowry said he would have the life taken of Michael Ryan before any such settlement between his son and Mary Ryan would be dishonoured and produced a long Pistol with two balls and said he would drive the brace of balls through Michael Ryans guts. George Clowry there and then did strike Michael Ryan with the butt of the Pistol in a most brutal manner forcing Michael Ryan, with blood gushing from an open wound on his head in consequence of the blow he received, to run to the Military Barracks adjacent to his shop to seek the protection of the Sentry Robert Stewart posted at the gate, whereupon George Clowry, James, Clowry, Peter Clowry and Mary Clowry disbanded and went separate ways Since this occurrence Michael Ryan and his family have lived in fear and terror of the said people and further sayth Not. Michael Ryan seeks for his family Justice and Protection from the Magistrates to live in the Peace of Our Sovereign Lord, George the ThIrd, King, His Crown and Dignity. (signed) Michael, hisXmark, Ryan, having first being read to him by Michael Whitmore. Sworn before me this 6th day of June 1801. (signed) Charles Burton. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Anna!

Can someone tell me where Lawry's Lane in Carlow used to be and what is it called now. Its mentioned in Griffiths Valuation and the 1901 census. Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

James Clowry maketh oath that he usually resides at Pollerton in the Town of Carlow and County of Carlow.(signed) James, hisXmark, Clowry. John Clowry maketh oath that he is a Householder and usually resides in Kilmaglush, Parish of Kilmaglush and County of Carlow and that he supports himself by Farming and that he is worth the sum of five pounds above his Debts.(signed) John Clowry James Nowlan of Ballon, in the Parish of Ballon maketh oath that he supports himself by farming and that he is worth the sum of five pounds above his Debts. (signed) James Nowlan. George Clowry maketh oath that he is a householder and usually resides in Pollerton, Town of Carlow, Parish of Carlow and that he supports himself as a Tanner and Dealer in Leather and that he is worth the sum of five pounds above his debts.(signed) George, hisXmark, Clowry. Be it remembered that the above named James Clowry, John Clowry, James Nowlan and George Clowry came before me One of his Majestys Justices of the Peace and acknowledged themselves to be indebted to our Sovereign Lord the King in the Sums of 15 pounds Sterling and to which their names are respectively annexed. The condition of the Recognizance is such that the aforesaid James Clowry shall and will keep the Peace towards all his Majestys Subject and particulary towards Mary Ryan of the Barrack Street, Carlow Town, Spinster, for and during the term twenty five years from the Date hereof, otherwise to stand and remain in full force and virtue in Law. Taken and Acknowledged before me this eighth day of June 1801, (signed) Charles Burton. To be kept among the Records of the County aforesaid.

Why were they removed ? PD On 19 April 2012 21:54, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > the 1779 County Carlow Legion Banner was not sold yesterday. > It might end up in the Carlow County Museum yet !. > I believe it used to hang from a bracket on the wall in St. Mary's Church, > Castle Hill, Carlow alongside three other Militia- type banners, they were > removed in 1972. > > On 18 April 2012 18:36, Andy Goss <[email protected]> wrote: > > > For the Carlow Museum perhaps. > > I see on their site that they also sold a letter from Kevin Barry written > > the day before his execution for €87,000. I wonder who bought that > > remarkable record. > > Cathy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of michael purcell > > Sent: 18 April 2012 9:32 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Rochford+Bunbury 1779. > > > > Adam's Auction today, > > Wednesday 18th April 2012 > > ...Lot 631 > > > > > > > > An early and rare County Carlow Legion Banner embroidered on silk > > depicting Hibernia leaning on a Harp, holding a staff and flag in the > left > > hand and a leafy sprig in the right hand. The Motto 'be true to yourself' > > is inside a border of shamrocks. The Banner is oval (71 x 66cm). The > Carlow > > Legion was a volunteer unit formed in September 1779 under Colonel J. > > Rochford and Major Henry Bunbury" > > > > > > > > €5000-6000 [image: Lot: > > 631]<http://www.adams.ie/BidCat/detail.asp?SaleRef=7030&LotRef=631> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4943 - Release Date: 04/17/12 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >