[ Note added 2011. Most "Informations" or Recogizances have piece added stating that the Informant or accused is bonded by a sum of money on condition they appear in court. If they do not appear they or the bondsmen forfeit the money. Here is a list of some who did not turn up in court.] Pat Purcell Papers. 1822. List of Recogizancers forfeited at Carlow Sessions 17th October 1822. Arthur Kavanagh of Ballycrinigan, Parish and Barony of St. Mollins £5 for not prosecuting Patt and Michael Doyle. Matthew Shanahan of Rathgeron, Parish of Kintennel, Barony of St. Mullins £5 for not prosecuting Marten Kealy. Thomas Donnelly of Kilcoltrim, Parish of Kiltennel, Barony Idrone East,£5 for not prosecuting Andrew Haydon and James Dwyer. Elizabeth Nowlan of Carlow for not prosecuting Donah? Bolger (not bound in any sum). Donah? Bolger of Carlow £5 for not prosecuting Elizabeth Nowlan. Mary Keogh of Tullowbeg, Parish of Fenagh, Barony of Rathvilly £10 for not prosecuting Joseph Keogh. Mary Kelly of Clonegal, Parish of Moyacomb, Barony of St Mollins. James Dwyer of Ferns, Parish of Ferns, Barony of Loughlin,County of Wexford £10 for not prosecuting John Gleeson. Mary Barnes of Bells Hill, Parish of Clonmore, Barony of Rathvilly £10 for not prosecuting James Carroll. Thomas Murphy of Kile, Parish of Ballyellen, Barony of St. Mollins, £5 for not prosecuting John Murphy and others. Pat Mahony of Moyvalley, Parish of Kiltennel, Barony of Idrone East,£10 for not prosecuting Pierce Murphy and others. Fanny Daly of Carrigbad, Parish and Barony of St. Mollins £10 for not prosecuting Honora Geehan and others. Pat Kelly of Kilcoltrim, Parish of Kiltennel,Barony of St.Mollins, £5 for not prosecuting Patt Neille. James Bolger of Rathgeron, Parish of Kiltennel, Barony of St. Mollins, £10 for not prosecuting Lau Doran and others. Patt and Michael Doyle of Ballynockvicar, Parish and Barony of St Mollins, £10 each for not prosecuting Matthew Murphy, Charles Murphy,Patt Murphy and others. John Lannon of Ballybrack, Parish of Ballyellen, Barony of St Mollins. £5 for not prosecuting Thomas and Stephen Murphy and others. Thomas Lannon of Newtown, Parish of St Mollins £5 for not prosecuting Edmond Gallavin. Maurice FitzGerald of Knockagarry, Parish of Old Leighlin, Barony of Idrone East, £10 for not Pat Donahue. James Murphy of Drana, Parish and Barony of St Mollins, £5 for not prosecuting Michael Doyle and others. Martin Lannon of Ballybrack, Parish of Ballyellen, Barony of St Mollins, £5 for not prosecuting Thomas Murphy. Patt Murphy od Drana, Parish and Barony of St. Mullins, £5 for not prosecuting James Doyle. James Doyle of Ballynockvicar, Parish and Barony of St Mollins, £40 for not appearing to answer such things as should be objected against him. Laurence Doyle of Balltine and Patrick Bolger of Ballynockvicar of like parish and barony £20 each for not bringing forth the Body of the above James Doyle. Alexander Humfrey. Clerk of the Peace.
Pat Purcell Papers. 1800. By Robert Rochfort, Esquire, one of his Majesties Justices of the Peace for Carlow. The Examination of James Neal of Ballinabrannagh, Parish of Cloydagh, in the County of Carlow, by trade a Cooper, who being duly sworn on the Holy Evangelists and examined saith that on Wednesday the 23rd July 1800 between the hours of ten and eleven O'Clock at night two men came to his house. They were Dennis McDaniel and Sylvester Delaney both resident in Graige, Queen's County. Dennis McDaniel came up to the house of James Neal and immediately demanded admittance upon which James Neal asked him what he wanted at that hour of the night , his answer was "open the door you rascal until I search your house for rebels" , upon which James Neal was obliged to open the door and instantly received a punch on the breast from the muzzle of a pistol in said McDaniels hand. McDaniel immediately swore he must have money or his life, upon which saying his wife bounced out of bed and ran to a trunk and opened it and shewed McDaniel some receipts, McDaniel immediately threw them about the floor saying to Mrs Neal "you whore this is not what - I want I must get money" . McDanial immediately ran into the bedroom and took hold of James Neals breeches and out of the Pocket book in the breeches took the amount of 7 Guineas, -- one of which was a 5 Guinea note and the others two 1 Guinea notes -- upon which McDaniel went to the fire and lit some chips and while they were lighting he said he must look at his watch as he said he must go that night elsewhere. McDaniel made James Neal and his wife and his son swear that they would never give out or inform that they were robbed of either a Shilling, paper or money -- in consequence of what McDaniel had done in the house Mrs Neal was immediately taken violently ill and died in 14 days after and further James Neal sayth not ------( signed) James Neal. Sworn before me this day at the house of James Neal the 2nd day of August 1800. (signed) Robert Rochfort. James Neal further swears that during the time McDaniel was robbing the house the said Slyvester Delaney was guarding James Neals son in an out-house and prevented him from coming to assist James Neal and that Slyvester Delaney had a Gun in his hand. James Neal bound in the sum of £10 to prosecute at the next General Assizes to be held in Carlow.
Mick, Thanks for this item! A completely new Conoran to add to my files, and so far, the only one in Carlow town. Karen. > Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:38:09 +0100 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1844,Conoran,Fanning,White. > > Pat Purcell Papers. > 1844. > THE INFORMATION of Anthony Fanning of Ardenteagle, Parish of Killeshin, > Barony of Slivemarige, Queen's County, who being duly sworn on the Holy > Evangelists deposeth and saith that on the fourteenth day of March 1844~~~ > I went into the shop of Thomas Conoran of the town of Carlow, I asked him > what his Salt fish was a pound - he said 2 pence - I asked had he none at > less price - he said he had and shewed me some fish at 1 penny per pound - > I asked him if he was sure it was good ; he said it was quite good , but > that it had been injured in the Carriage ; > I then bought some of this fish / about 6 pound / . I took it home - and > on Cooking it, it had proved to be not fit for food, quite rotten - my wife > and child eat a bit of it - and both of them have been sick ever since - . > I called again this morning on the said Conoran to complain about the fish > - I asked him to give me some in place of it = he refused to do so or to > give me back my money insisting that the fish was quite good - . > I now Swear that the fish so bought from the said Conoran is not fit for > human food ~~ > (signed) Anthony, hisXmark, Fanning. > Sworn before me at Carlow this 18th March 1844 - having been first truly > read to Informant by me > (signed) Matthew Esmond White. > The above-named Anthony Fanning hereby acknowledgeth himself to be indebted > to our Sovereign Lady the Queen in the Sum of Ten Pounds Sterling. > Conditioned that he be and appear at the next Sessions to be held at Carlow > and do then and there prosecute the above-named Thomas Conoran and do also > produce the Fish above alluded to and do attend from Sessions to Sessions > for such purpose until discharged by the Court. > Taken and acknowledged before Me, this 18th day of March 1844. (signed) > Matthew Esmond White. (signed) Anthony, hisXmark, Fanning. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Matthew Esmond White, Justice of the Peace, was Medical Officer at Carlow Lunatic Asylum. His sister Amelia entered the Mercy Order of nuns in 1833. The Foundress of the Mercy Order, Catherine McAuley said of her : "Of all the Sisters, Sister M. Teresa has more of my spirit and I trust more to her guiding the Institute as I wish than to any other Sister." . Sister M. Teresa (Amelia) White was the eighteenth woman to enter the Mercy Order of nuns in Dublin. In 1837 she travelled to Carlow to establish a Mercy Convent on the Dublin Road. Born in 1809 in Kilcarry Cross, Co. Carlow, Amelia was daughter of Stipendiary Magistrate Laurence White and his wife Jane Esmond White. She had three sisters - Jane who became Sister M. de Sales, Caroline - Mrs. Plunkett and Christina - Mrs. Scallon. Her brother Matthew Esmond White became a doctor, while another brother William died in 1839. There may also have been a third brother. In May 1832 Amelia and Jane had went to Dublin to be presented at the Vice-regal Lodge. Their aunt who had met Catherine McAuley asked them to visit the Mercy Convent in Baggot Street before returning to Carlow. Amelia was so struck by the austerity of the convent and the charm of the Superior, that she immediately requested to be admitted as a postulant. Catherine in her wisdom, sent the girls home, but very soon Amelia returned, followed by Jane two years later. The family seem to have been personal friends of Mother McAuley as evidenced by the letters she wrote to Sister Teresa and her sister, Sister de Sales. She also wrote to their sister Caroline about another sister Christina who was ill at the time. There are in fact, eight extant letters from Catherine to Sister Teresa and she is mentioned several times in letters to other Sisters. In 1837 Sister Teresa set out to establish a Convent for Carlow from Baggot Street with Mother McAuley and two other sisters. She was again the travelling companion of the Foundress to the new convent in Cork later in 1837. In 1839 she went on a foundation to Bermondsey with Mother McAuley and returned with her to Dublin two months later. She later established a Convent in Galway and remained there until her death. On 26 May 2012 18:38, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > Pat Purcell Papers. > 1844. > THE INFORMATION of Anthony Fanning of Ardenteagle, Parish of Killeshin, > Barony of Slivemarige, Queen's County, who being duly sworn on the Holy > Evangelists deposeth and saith that on the fourteenth day of March 1844~~~ > I went into the shop of Thomas Conoran of the town of Carlow, I asked him > what his Salt fish was a pound - he said 2 pence - I asked had he none at > less price - he said he had and shewed me some fish at 1 penny per pound - > I asked him if he was sure it was good ; he said it was quite good , but > that it had been injured in the Carriage ; > I then bought some of this fish / about 6 pound / . I took it home - and > on Cooking it, it had proved to be not fit for food, quite rotten - my wife > and child eat a bit of it - and both of them have been sick ever since - . > I called again this morning on the said Conoran to complain about the fish > - I asked him to give me some in place of it = he refused to do so or to > give me back my money insisting that the fish was quite good - . > I now Swear that the fish so bought from the said Conoran is not fit for > human food ~~ > (signed) Anthony, hisXmark, Fanning. > Sworn before me at Carlow this 18th March 1844 - having been first truly > read to Informant by me > (signed) Matthew Esmond White. > The above-named Anthony Fanning hereby acknowledgeth himself to be > indebted to our Sovereign Lady the Queen in the Sum of Ten Pounds Sterling. > Conditioned that he be and appear at the next Sessions to be held at Carlow > and do then and there prosecute the above-named Thomas Conoran and do also > produce the Fish above alluded to and do attend from Sessions to Sessions > for such purpose until discharged by the Court. > Taken and acknowledged before Me, this 18th day of March 1844. (signed) > Matthew Esmond White. (signed) Anthony, hisXmark, Fanning. >
Pat Purcell Papers. 1844. THE INFORMATION of Anthony Fanning of Ardenteagle, Parish of Killeshin, Barony of Slivemarige, Queen's County, who being duly sworn on the Holy Evangelists deposeth and saith that on the fourteenth day of March 1844~~~ I went into the shop of Thomas Conoran of the town of Carlow, I asked him what his Salt fish was a pound - he said 2 pence - I asked had he none at less price - he said he had and shewed me some fish at 1 penny per pound - I asked him if he was sure it was good ; he said it was quite good , but that it had been injured in the Carriage ; I then bought some of this fish / about 6 pound / . I took it home - and on Cooking it, it had proved to be not fit for food, quite rotten - my wife and child eat a bit of it - and both of them have been sick ever since - . I called again this morning on the said Conoran to complain about the fish - I asked him to give me some in place of it = he refused to do so or to give me back my money insisting that the fish was quite good - . I now Swear that the fish so bought from the said Conoran is not fit for human food ~~ (signed) Anthony, hisXmark, Fanning. Sworn before me at Carlow this 18th March 1844 - having been first truly read to Informant by me (signed) Matthew Esmond White. The above-named Anthony Fanning hereby acknowledgeth himself to be indebted to our Sovereign Lady the Queen in the Sum of Ten Pounds Sterling. Conditioned that he be and appear at the next Sessions to be held at Carlow and do then and there prosecute the above-named Thomas Conoran and do also produce the Fish above alluded to and do attend from Sessions to Sessions for such purpose until discharged by the Court. Taken and acknowledged before Me, this 18th day of March 1844. (signed) Matthew Esmond White. (signed) Anthony, hisXmark, Fanning.
Very interesting . . . any idea of the name of the "prominent Catholic in Philadelphia" who tried to recruit Roman Catholics to fight for the British against the colonists? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Nowlan" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:07:31 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Roman Catholic Volunteers (1777) & Tarleton's Light Dragoons in AMERICA Mick, >From the transcription below, we note that John Largon of Carlow, whose will was proved in 1782, served in America during the American Revolution. We also note that "Tarleton's Light Dragoons" were recruiting in Co. Carlow in 1783 (at the end of the American Revolutionary War – evacuation of New York and signing of Peace treaty in 1783). >From Wikipedia, we also note that "This unit [i.e. Tarleton's Light Dragoons] was raised in New York in July 1778, by Sir Henry Clinton,[1] in order to merge several small Loyalist units into a single force, a "legion" that combined infantry and cavalry forces and a battery of "flying" (light and fast moving) artillery.[2] The infantry consisted of the Caledonian Volunteers, Ritzema's Royal American Reformers, the West Jersey Volunteers, and *** some members of the Roman Catholic Volunteers. ***[3] The cavalry combined, etc... " Now for some HISTORICAL CONTEXT! Early on, during the American Revolutionary war, in 1777, there was an attempt, led by a prominent Catholic in Philadelphia, to recruit Roman Catholics to fight for the British side. I know that some Catholic Nowlans/Nowlands heeded this call. As best as I can ascertain, they belonged to a certain class of the Roman Catholic aristocracy (like Lord Kenmare of Kerry, later Earl of Kenmare, whose name came up in a recent posting as being a landlord in the Ballyellin-Goresbridge area in the 1850s) who believed that, through engaging themselves in the defense of British interests they might gain the rights of freemen which were being denied to "most Catholics" (Lord Kenmare being an exception). At the time, there even had been talk of granting to the Irish a large chunk of land in America which would be called New Ireland. The loss of the war in America and the events of the 1790s in Ireland delayed efforts to implement the vision of a New Ireland in America but, at the end of the Napoleonic Wars (1803-1815), efforts seem to have been revived and, in southern New Brunswick, starting in the early 1820s, there existed for a time a small colony called New Ireland. To summarize, in the pre-1798 time period, two conflicting visions for the future seem to have crystalized, coming to a head in 1798. According to one vision, supported by Lord Kenmare of Kerry ( a prominent Catholic leader, mentioned at beginning of Email) and other community leaders, Irish and British interests were thought to be reconcilable through dialogue, greater participation in British society and the granting of freedoms under British law. Another vision, that espoused by the United Irishmen, held little hope of reconciliation and the granting of freedoms. In 1798, as you no doubt already appreciate, these two conflicting visions likely caused major splits in families, Catholic and non-Catholic alike. Comments always welcomed! Bye for now, Roger http://nolanfamilies.org -----Original Message----- From: michael purcell Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 3:54 PM the I To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1780, Largon,Lemon Extracts from research Notes compiled by Pat Purcell in the PPP. 1782. John Largon of Carlow, Carpenter, of the Town of Carlow, Last Will dated 9th February, 1780. Proved 3rd September 1782. Daughter, Mary, wife of Joseph Lemon [ ? ] . His son Michael Largin enlisted in Carlow with "Tarleton's Light Dragoons" in 1783, he served as Lieutenant. In 1779 he was listed as Sergeant in Captain Needham's Troop. He served in the war in America 1779 - 1782 with the British Legion forces of King George the Third, where he was stationed in Boston, America and fought in the Guards alongside Colonel Watson of Carlow up to the time of the "British Establishment of Peace with America". He married in Nova Scotia, Halifax in 1783. He was appointed Naval Officer at the Port of Shelburne, Nova Scotia in 1784. He accidentally drowned when his boat sank on 4th July 1790 in the Port of Shelburne, his wife Elizabeth and four children, the eldest, George Tarleton Largin, aged six years, survived him. His 1782 Commission as Lieutenant and Adjutant in the Cavalry Corps signed by King George the Third reads. GEORGE THE THIRD by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith and so Forth. TO our Trusty and Well Beloved, Michael Largin, Gentleman, GREETING~~~ We do by those Presents, Constitute and Appoint you to be Adjutant to our Regiment of Light Dragoons commanded by our Trusty and Well Beloved Lieutenant Colonel Commandant Banastre Tarleton. YOU are therefore carefully and diligently to discharge the DUTY of Adjutant by doing and performing all and all manner of things thereunto belonging. ~~~ AND you are to observe and follow such Orders and Directions from Time to Time as you shall receive from your Lieutenant Colonel Commandant or any other Superior Officers according to the Rules and Discipline of War.~~~ GIVEN at Our Court at St. Jame's the Twenty Fifth day of December 1782 in the Twenty Third of Our Reign . BY his Majesty's Command. (signed) George 111 Rex. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Pat Purcell Papers. 1816. The Examination of Mary McArdel of the Ridge of Old Leighlin, Carlow ~~ Who being duly sworn upon the Holy Evangelists and Examined saith that on the Night of Sunday the 16th Day of June 1816 she being in bed in her fathers house at the Ridge of Old Leighlin a Number of Men came to the house and called her by very opprobrious Names to come out till they would take her life~~~. She did not open the Door being apprehensive of her life, but going to a window ( not Glazed ) she looked out and Discovered a Number of Men who told her that if she Did not leave the Place before next Nights they would have her life ~~~ They threatened to Burn the House and they put a Paper under the Door Containing a Notice for her immediately to Remove and Clear off from the Place and threatening her if she did not. After which they went to a new House which had been lately built for her and threw Down the Walls of the said House in part. And Mary McArdel further saith that among the said Men were Thomas Scarf, Junior, George Scarf and John Redmond all of the Ridge of Old Leighlin to whom she Positively swears and is positive that they were in the party and also saith that to the best of her knowledge Thomas Scarf, Senior and Jim Hughes of Knockbawn, were also of the party and further saith that she is in Continual Dread and fear of her life from the outrageous and threatening Behaviour of the said party. (signed) Mary, herXmark, McArdel. Sworn before me ( being first truly Read to Mary McArdel ) this 17th day of June 1816 (signed) John [ ? ] Steuart.
Hi! Here are a few notes I made to myself earlier on the subject of the Roman Catholic Volunteers. Mr. Arthur CLIFTON was one of the recruiters. See below. ************* Information on Regiment of Catholic Volunteers (found on p81 of "Catholic Loyalists of the Revolution") by General Howe of Philadelphia. " In a letter dated March 1778, it is stated that this attempt was an "utter failure". Surely the "Catholic Tory" recruits were redirected to other regiments such as the 22nd. At the quoted reference (above) it does suggest that the British Authorities, anxious for recruits made it easy for the Catholics to join. In particular, the parish of St. Joseph's in Philadelphia is mentioned from whence came its Lt. Colonel a Mr. Arthur Clifton (one of initial three recruiters) and a Mr. John Nowland, its Quartermaster (RN: which based upon other sources I believe was recruited from Newfoundland, initially as part of the Nova Scotia Volunteers). " *********** Regards, Roger -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Roman Catholic Volunteers (1777) &Tarleton's Light Dragoons in AMERICA Very interesting . . . any idea of the name of the "prominent Catholic in Philadelphia" who tried to recruit Roman Catholics to fight for the British against the colonists? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Nowlan" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:07:31 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Roman Catholic Volunteers (1777) & Tarleton's Light Dragoons in AMERICA Mick, >From the transcription below, we note that John Largon of Carlow, whose will was proved in 1782, served in America during the American Revolution. We also note that "Tarleton's Light Dragoons" were recruiting in Co. Carlow in 1783 (at the end of the American Revolutionary War – evacuation of New York and signing of Peace treaty in 1783). >From Wikipedia, we also note that "This unit [i.e. Tarleton's Light Dragoons] was raised in New York in July 1778, by Sir Henry Clinton,[1] in order to merge several small Loyalist units into a single force, a "legion" that combined infantry and cavalry forces and a battery of "flying" (light and fast moving) artillery.[2] The infantry consisted of the Caledonian Volunteers, Ritzema's Royal American Reformers, the West Jersey Volunteers, and *** some members of the Roman Catholic Volunteers. ***[3] The cavalry combined, etc... " Now for some HISTORICAL CONTEXT! Early on, during the American Revolutionary war, in 1777, there was an attempt, led by a prominent Catholic in Philadelphia, to recruit Roman Catholics to fight for the British side. I know that some Catholic Nowlans/Nowlands heeded this call. As best as I can ascertain, they belonged to a certain class of the Roman Catholic aristocracy (like Lord Kenmare of Kerry, later Earl of Kenmare, whose name came up in a recent posting as being a landlord in the Ballyellin-Goresbridge area in the 1850s) who believed that, through engaging themselves in the defense of British interests they might gain the rights of freemen which were being denied to "most Catholics" (Lord Kenmare being an exception). At the time, there even had been talk of granting to the Irish a large chunk of land in America which would be called New Ireland. The loss of the war in America and the events of the 1790s in Ireland delayed efforts to implement the vision of a New Ireland in America but, at the end of the Napoleonic Wars (1803-1815), efforts seem to have been revived and, in southern New Brunswick, starting in the early 1820s, there existed for a time a small colony called New Ireland. To summarize, in the pre-1798 time period, two conflicting visions for the future seem to have crystalized, coming to a head in 1798. According to one vision, supported by Lord Kenmare of Kerry ( a prominent Catholic leader, mentioned at beginning of Email) and other community leaders, Irish and British interests were thought to be reconcilable through dialogue, greater participation in British society and the granting of freedoms under British law. Another vision, that espoused by the United Irishmen, held little hope of reconciliation and the granting of freedoms. In 1798, as you no doubt already appreciate, these two conflicting visions likely caused major splits in families, Catholic and non-Catholic alike. Comments always welcomed! Bye for now, Roger http://nolanfamilies.org -----Original Message----- From: michael purcell Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 3:54 PM the I To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1780, Largon,Lemon Extracts from research Notes compiled by Pat Purcell in the PPP. 1782. John Largon of Carlow, Carpenter, of the Town of Carlow, Last Will dated 9th February, 1780. Proved 3rd September 1782. Daughter, Mary, wife of Joseph Lemon [ ? ] . His son Michael Largin enlisted in Carlow with "Tarleton's Light Dragoons" in 1783, he served as Lieutenant. In 1779 he was listed as Sergeant in Captain Needham's Troop. He served in the war in America 1779 - 1782 with the British Legion forces of King George the Third, where he was stationed in Boston, America and fought in the Guards alongside Colonel Watson of Carlow up to the time of the "British Establishment of Peace with America". He married in Nova Scotia, Halifax in 1783. He was appointed Naval Officer at the Port of Shelburne, Nova Scotia in 1784. He accidentally drowned when his boat sank on 4th July 1790 in the Port of Shelburne, his wife Elizabeth and four children, the eldest, George Tarleton Largin, aged six years, survived him. His 1782 Commission as Lieutenant and Adjutant in the Cavalry Corps signed by King George the Third reads. GEORGE THE THIRD by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith and so Forth. TO our Trusty and Well Beloved, Michael Largin, Gentleman, GREETING~~~ We do by those Presents, Constitute and Appoint you to be Adjutant to our Regiment of Light Dragoons commanded by our Trusty and Well Beloved Lieutenant Colonel Commandant Banastre Tarleton. YOU are therefore carefully and diligently to discharge the DUTY of Adjutant by doing and performing all and all manner of things thereunto belonging. ~~~ AND you are to observe and follow such Orders and Directions from Time to Time as you shall receive from your Lieutenant Colonel Commandant or any other Superior Officers according to the Rules and Discipline of War.~~~ GIVEN at Our Court at St. Jame's the Twenty Fifth day of December 1782 in the Twenty Third of Our Reign . BY his Majesty's Command. (signed) George 111 Rex. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Mick, >From the transcription below, we note that John Largon of Carlow, whose will was proved in 1782, served in America during the American Revolution. We also note that "Tarleton's Light Dragoons" were recruiting in Co. Carlow in 1783 (at the end of the American Revolutionary War – evacuation of New York and signing of Peace treaty in 1783). >From Wikipedia, we also note that "This unit [i.e. Tarleton's Light Dragoons] was raised in New York in July 1778, by Sir Henry Clinton,[1] in order to merge several small Loyalist units into a single force, a "legion" that combined infantry and cavalry forces and a battery of "flying" (light and fast moving) artillery.[2] The infantry consisted of the Caledonian Volunteers, Ritzema's Royal American Reformers, the West Jersey Volunteers, and *** some members of the Roman Catholic Volunteers. ***[3] The cavalry combined, etc... " Now for some HISTORICAL CONTEXT! Early on, during the American Revolutionary war, in 1777, there was an attempt, led by a prominent Catholic in Philadelphia, to recruit Roman Catholics to fight for the British side. I know that some Catholic Nowlans/Nowlands heeded this call. As best as I can ascertain, they belonged to a certain class of the Roman Catholic aristocracy (like Lord Kenmare of Kerry, later Earl of Kenmare, whose name came up in a recent posting as being a landlord in the Ballyellin-Goresbridge area in the 1850s) who believed that, through engaging themselves in the defense of British interests they might gain the rights of freemen which were being denied to "most Catholics" (Lord Kenmare being an exception). At the time, there even had been talk of granting to the Irish a large chunk of land in America which would be called New Ireland. The loss of the war in America and the events of the 1790s in Ireland delayed efforts to implement the vision of a New Ireland in America but, at the end of the Napoleonic Wars (1803-1815), efforts seem to have been revived and, in southern New Brunswick, starting in the early 1820s, there existed for a time a small colony called New Ireland. To summarize, in the pre-1798 time period, two conflicting visions for the future seem to have crystalized, coming to a head in 1798. According to one vision, supported by Lord Kenmare of Kerry ( a prominent Catholic leader, mentioned at beginning of Email) and other community leaders, Irish and British interests were thought to be reconcilable through dialogue, greater participation in British society and the granting of freedoms under British law. Another vision, that espoused by the United Irishmen, held little hope of reconciliation and the granting of freedoms. In 1798, as you no doubt already appreciate, these two conflicting visions likely caused major splits in families, Catholic and non-Catholic alike. Comments always welcomed! Bye for now, Roger http://nolanfamilies.org -----Original Message----- From: michael purcell Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 3:54 PM the I To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1780, Largon,Lemon Extracts from research Notes compiled by Pat Purcell in the PPP. 1782. John Largon of Carlow, Carpenter, of the Town of Carlow, Last Will dated 9th February, 1780. Proved 3rd September 1782. Daughter, Mary, wife of Joseph Lemon [ ? ] . His son Michael Largin enlisted in Carlow with "Tarleton's Light Dragoons" in 1783, he served as Lieutenant. In 1779 he was listed as Sergeant in Captain Needham's Troop. He served in the war in America 1779 - 1782 with the British Legion forces of King George the Third, where he was stationed in Boston, America and fought in the Guards alongside Colonel Watson of Carlow up to the time of the "British Establishment of Peace with America". He married in Nova Scotia, Halifax in 1783. He was appointed Naval Officer at the Port of Shelburne, Nova Scotia in 1784. He accidentally drowned when his boat sank on 4th July 1790 in the Port of Shelburne, his wife Elizabeth and four children, the eldest, George Tarleton Largin, aged six years, survived him. His 1782 Commission as Lieutenant and Adjutant in the Cavalry Corps signed by King George the Third reads. GEORGE THE THIRD by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith and so Forth. TO our Trusty and Well Beloved, Michael Largin, Gentleman, GREETING~~~ We do by those Presents, Constitute and Appoint you to be Adjutant to our Regiment of Light Dragoons commanded by our Trusty and Well Beloved Lieutenant Colonel Commandant Banastre Tarleton. YOU are therefore carefully and diligently to discharge the DUTY of Adjutant by doing and performing all and all manner of things thereunto belonging. ~~~ AND you are to observe and follow such Orders and Directions from Time to Time as you shall receive from your Lieutenant Colonel Commandant or any other Superior Officers according to the Rules and Discipline of War.~~~ GIVEN at Our Court at St. Jame's the Twenty Fifth day of December 1782 in the Twenty Third of Our Reign . BY his Majesty's Command. (signed) George 111 Rex. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Extracts from research Notes compiled by Pat Purcell in the PPP. 1782. John Largon of Carlow, Carpenter, of the Town of Carlow, Last Will dated 9th February, 1780. Proved 3rd September 1782. Daughter, Mary, wife of Joseph Lemon [ ? ] . His son Michael Largin enlisted in Carlow with "Tarleton's Light Dragoons" in 1783, he served as Lieutenant. In 1779 he was listed as Sergeant in Captain Needham's Troop. He served in the war in America 1779 - 1782 with the British Legion forces of King George the Third, where he was stationed in Boston, America and fought in the Guards alongside Colonel Watson of Carlow up to the time of the "British Establishment of Peace with America". He married in Nova Scotia, Halifax in 1783. He was appointed Naval Officer at the Port of Shelburne, Nova Scotia in 1784. He accidentally drowned when his boat sank on 4th July 1790 in the Port of Shelburne, his wife Elizabeth and four children, the eldest, George Tarleton Largin, aged six years, survived him. His 1782 Commission as Lieutenant and Adjutant in the Cavalry Corps signed by King George the Third reads. GEORGE THE THIRD by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith and so Forth. TO our Trusty and Well Beloved, Michael Largin, Gentleman, GREETING~~~ We do by those Presents, Constitute and Appoint you to be Adjutant to our Regiment of Light Dragoons commanded by our Trusty and Well Beloved Lieutenant Colonel Commandant Banastre Tarleton. YOU are therefore carefully and diligently to discharge the DUTY of Adjutant by doing and performing all and all manner of things thereunto belonging. ~~~ AND you are to observe and follow such Orders and Directions from Time to Time as you shall receive from your Lieutenant Colonel Commandant or any other Superior Officers according to the Rules and Discipline of War.~~~ GIVEN at Our Court at St. Jame's the Twenty Fifth day of December 1782 in the Twenty Third of Our Reign . BY his Majesty's Command. (signed) George 111 Rex.
I though I recognised the name James Cheney but I couldn't locate it last night for some reason. I will have another search. Thanks anyway. Someone might want to use it for educational purposes. Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm From: karen conderan Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:56 PM To: [email protected] ; michael purcell Subject: FW: [IRL-CARLOW] Transcribing PPP Documents Michael and Mick; I love your idea to post this challenge to listers! But I recognized the James Cheney piece right away; checked the archives for it. Mick's transcription was posted to the list on May 20. Don't think I've seen the other one before. Cheers, Karen. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 22:31:24 +0100 > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Transcribing PPP Documents > > Michael Purcell has provided some PPP documents to give people an insight > into how difficult it is to decipher these documents and how difficult they > are to transcribe and he has set a challenge to anyone on this Mailing List > who wants to Have-A-Go at transcribing these documents: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/PPP_Docs_Documents.htm > > On completion please send finished transcriptions to > [email protected] and they will be checked by Michael Purcell and > then published on this website and credited to the transcriber. > > Regards > Michael Brennan > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > ----- > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Pat Purcell Papers. 1862. Unpublished letter from Richard Brasier Creagh to Mr Pack-Beresford ( Hanging-Gale Beresford ) of Carlow, 1862. Firmount House, Donoughmore, County Cork, Ireland. June 7th 1862. Dear Sir, I have just returned from Travelling in the United States of America. I found my unfortunate Uncle, Batty Pack, in a most deplorable state of health and equally so as to his means of living and situation in New York. He has been attacked with convulsive fits and were it not for the pecuniary assistance I afforded him timely there is no doubt but he would have died, as he was absolutely in want with his family of the common necessaries of life. I take the earliest opportunity of relating these facts to you as I am under the impression that you will not suffer your cousin to die with his children of starvation. There is little of no employment in the States, which makes the matter urgent, and I hope that I have only to bring the case under your notice in order for you to do something for my poor Uncle who I consider is a deserving high minded man whom all of us love and are anxious to serve. I am very very sorry I cannot myself do something as unfortunately my means are but small. I beg to remain Dear Sir, yours faithfully, Richard Brasier Creagh. --- PS. I left New York on the 24th of May in the ship The Edinburgh. My Uncle's address is - [ this section of the letter is torn ].
** ** 1868 Letter from Patrick O'Neill, New York City, to his brother, John O'Neill, Fall River, Massachusetts, America. Dear John I write you this note hoping to find you in good health and plenty of work as I have neither at present... I landed here on the first Monday of March and ever since looking for work and can't get nothing to do not even labouring work. The shoemakers are on strike here and about 500 walking out. The masters want to reduce the wages they had and the men won't stand for it at all so they are on strike this two months. There is not enough work here for the Blacks, let alone white people. I am very badly off at present and would like very much to be back in Dublin where I could get some work to do. I wish to God that I never left to come to this boasted land of plenty. I stopped here for 4 days looking for work everywhere and could get none. I started on Friday evening for Philadelphia and landed at 12 o'clock at night and went to bed and slept well. Got up in the morning, went to look for work and could get nothing to do there . We stopped there till Monday evening when we had to sell all our things for to take us back again. We had to walk back to New York, a distance of 100 miles and passed through several small towns and could get no work in any of them. If you seen us tramping through the snow, you would pity us. We lived on bread & water for six days and slept in poorhouses every night. We got in here Saturday morning with one cent in our pockets and nothing to eat, we are sleeping there ever since. We get bread and soup every morning at half past six and we are very glad to get it and that is all we eat for the day. We have dreadful weather here, snowing since yesterday. Six feet of snow in the middle of the street. Traffic all stopped, can't walk through the street. You may be sure we are very badly off and in very bad spirits. I never led such a life nor did I expect that ever I would. We are both cold and hungry this moment and do not know where to turn to. My mind is a hell to me. I was going to drown myself last night. God only knows what will become of me. This is a dreadful life to be leading, but we must stare fate in the face. For when we were happy, we did not know how to mind it. I wish to God that I was back in Dublin again for there is no place like it all over the world. There is about 100,000 people idle here and every ship brings out hundreds more. If you know anybody that is thinking of coming out here tell them for God sake to stop where they are. I found Maurice Murphy and he gave me one dollar on Tuesday - Saint Patricks Day. He has no work either. I was trying to get away all week but I could not. I went to the consul here but he could not send me over. Don't let anybody know the way we are off, for God sake. I will go home as soon as I can or die here by myself. Farewell, farewell, perhaps forever your affectionate brother, Patrick O'Neill.
Good idea Michael, actually the writing is much clearer on your scanned image so the content should prove easy peesy deciphering for some of our readers ...the original sepia toned paper+ink document is faded but I have managed 99% of both documents......let's see if we have any listers willing to have a try......the John Purcell "Information" is one of the most unusual I have come across in the PPP ....... On 24 May 2012 22:31, Michael Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: > Michael Purcell has provided some PPP documents to give people an insight > into how difficult it is to decipher these documents and how difficult they > are to transcribe and he has set a challenge to anyone on this Mailing List > who wants to Have-A-Go at transcribing these documents: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/PPP_Docs_Documents.htm > > On completion please send finished transcriptions to > [email protected] and they will be checked by Michael Purcell > and > then published on this website and credited to the transcriber. > > Regards > Michael Brennan > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > ----- > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Michael Purcell has provided some PPP documents to give people an insight into how difficult it is to decipher these documents and how difficult they are to transcribe and he has set a challenge to anyone on this Mailing List who wants to Have-A-Go at transcribing these documents: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/PPP_Docs_Documents.htm On completion please send finished transcriptions to [email protected] and they will be checked by Michael Purcell and then published on this website and credited to the transcriber. Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm -----
Many thanks Michael. Susie Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 11:09:32 +0100 From: michael purcell <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1820, Warren,Browne,Carter. To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [ Note added 2012, we are now coming near the end of the documents transcribed during the recent cataloguing of the PPP, transcriptions checked by me and posted on this site. There are a few remaining photocopies not yet transcribed, once they are checked and posted that will conclude submissions from the collection for the foreseeable future. ] Pat Purcell Papers. 1820. James Warren maketh Oath and Saith that he usually resides in the Townland of Ballymurphy in the Parish of TullowPhelim, Barony of Rathvilly and County of Carlow and that he supports himself by his income and farming. Sworn before me this 16th Day of June 1820. (signed) William Carter. The above named James Warren acknowledges himself to be indebted to our Sovereign Lord the King in the sum of Ten pounds Sterling.~ (signed) James Warren. The Condition of the above Recognizance is such that if the above Bound James Warren shall be and appear in his proper person at the next General Sessions of the peace to be held at Tullow in and for the said County of Carlow and attend from day to day from Sessions to Sessions and prosecute Robert Browne, Patrick Browne and Peter Browne in the annexed Information named and not depart the Court without Leave that then the above Recognizance to be void else to remain in full force and virtue in Law ~ Taken and acknowledged before me the day and year aforesaid (signed) William Carter.
sure..............michael bolton is married to my sister liz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Brennan" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 24 May, 2012 7:55:22 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1872 Kelly, Brennan Hi Anna I went to Arles school with Michael Bolton. If you see him again give him my regards and I would love to meet up with him next time we are over in Carlow. Thanks also for the info on the Brennans from the area. Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 01:35:30 +0100 (IST) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1827, Kelly,Brennan,Malone,Malcomson,Fishbourne To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]t> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I was talking to a neighbour of yours.......michael bolton.........and he is from the strand.....he reckons they moved into their house around 1949 and previous to them moving in a family of brennans lived in their house which is quite old (150-200 years). He says there was another brennan family across the river and bridge going towards tolerton rather than ballickmoyler. he also says the blacksmith was a very big man named john brennan............so there are a few things for you to chew over! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Anna!
Hi Anna I went to Arles school with Michael Bolton. If you see him again give him my regards and I would love to meet up with him next time we are over in Carlow. Thanks also for the info on the Brennans from the area. Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 01:35:30 +0100 (IST) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1827, Kelly,Brennan,Malone,Malcomson,Fishbourne To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]t> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I was talking to a neighbour of yours.......michael bolton.........and he is from the strand.....he reckons they moved into their house around 1949 and previous to them moving in a family of brennans lived in their house which is quite old (150-200 years). He says there was another brennan family across the river and bridge going towards tolerton rather than ballickmoyler. he also says the blacksmith was a very big man named john brennan............so there are a few things for you to chew over!
1877 letter from Lewis Doyle to his first cousin John Doyle, "The Hill" Pollerton Little, Carlow. Kilkenny, Le Sueur County, Minnesota, America. July 15th 1877. Dear Cousin, I have been thinking for some days past that I ought to write you a few lines and now I proceed to do so .... The folk in Michigan are well and they tell me that my mother is able to go to Church and is almost as good as new. My two oldest girls have been living in town and received two and a half dollars per week each, but the youngest of them is home now to help me through the hay and harvest. Crops of small grain look splendid and my barley will be fit to cut in two days. I expect to have about 200 bushels wheat, 100 bushels barley and 150 bushels of oats. I have about half acre in garden and like Carlow folks I am great on onions, cabbage etc.. We have hard work to save the potatoes from the bugs. I hear they are in Germany and France. The locusts hatched here in millions and the people were badly scared, but they did no harm.They have destroyed everything out west of here on the prairies. The are building a railway here commencing at Minneapolis and running south to the Iowa line. The trains will be running on it by the 1st of October. It has been a great help to the farmers. It makes a market for railroad ties, wood and everything they have to sell. The road is two and a half miles from this house and we can get as big a price for our stuff as they do in St. Paul or St. Louis except the freight. It is over a year since I heard from our cousin Mary. She was then working in the County Hospital in Chicago. I received a couple of letters from her at that time and all at once she stopped writing although I answered her letters. Please tell me how is all your family and also the Clonegal folks and if there is anyone of them around there who knew me 35 years ago. If so give them my best wishes and tell them they may see Ireland free of British rule 'ere long. There is over $500,000 in bank in New York for that purpose and money being sent in every day. J. O'Donovan Rossa receives the money and receipts it in the next issue of the "Irish World". It is the best paper in the world for Irish men and is doing more for the cause of freedom than all the rest. I will send you one of an old date. It explains itself and also one or two others. My two boys are very good fiddlers and one of them is rasping away now, but I hate to tell him to stop so long as he doesn't lose much time. My dear John write me a good long letter as soon as you get this. Tell your sons to write me and if they would like to come to Minneseota land is cheap here and plenty and cannot be beat in the world for fertility. I have good wheat growing now on land cleared 18 years ago and got no manure since. [ Note added May 24th 2012 ; enough typing for now - to be continued, mick. ].
Another link up to Carlow from USA website: I want to shout out a big "Thank You!" to Michael and others who patiently transcribe unusual sources and share these on the world wide web. The George Rice mentioned in this letter ( August 17th 1873 ) was my grandmother's grandfather. What a treasure trove of data in just a few sentences! I've really appreciated this series from the Pat Purcell Papers. Heartfelt thanks, Shawne FitzGerald, USA.