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    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Pre-Rebellion Activity in MOANMORE area - Ref: UNTHANK family testimony
    2. Roger Nowlan
    3. Thank You Mick, Your extra information helps me to better appreciate the historical context and geographical linkages (e.g. via Watson and Browne family interests) for the period just prior to my ancestor's emigration. The fact that Kilconnor townland was mentioned first drew my interest. Bye for now, Roger -----Original Message----- From: michael purcell Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Pre-Rebellion Activity in MOANMORE area - Ref: UNTHANK family testimony Newgarden Cemetery, Carlow, Ireland<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Newgarden_Cemetery.htm> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Newgarden_Cemetery.htmCached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lDDNuire1lcJ:www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Newgarden_Cemetery.htm+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie> - Similar<https://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&biw=1024&bih=571&q=related:www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Newgarden_Cemetery.htm+to+clean+up+the+old+mans+bed%2Bbryce+peterson&tbo=1&sa=X&ei=kwzJT9KJA4qnhAfo_YntDw&sqi=2&ved=0CCMQHzAC> You +1'd this publicly. Undo <https://www.google.ie/#> By *Bryce Petersen* Jr. *...* "*To clean up the old man's bed*, it's good to first get your name in the paper" *...* The man at the corner market had never heard of it. On 1 June 2012 19:35, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > New Gardens is on the road to Athy from Carlow. There was a Quaker Meeting > House established in the area. Today the area contains a Quaker Burial > Plot > referred to by Bryce Peterson in his article on the Carlow IGP - " To > clean > up the Old Man's bed". > Quakers from the New Gardens area settled in Philadelphia, USA and renamed > the townland "New Gardens" it's called so up to present day. > On 1 June 2012 19:23, Roger Nowlan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I would just like to pass on an observation. >> >> Below in the testimony of Thebius UNTHANK in November 1797, we find >> evidence of what is believed to have been activity by United Irishmen in >> the area of Moanmore and Ballybrommell (where "Farmer Clowry" of 1798 >> fame >> lived). >> >> The Quaker meeting house was on the neighbouring townland of Kilconnor >> owned by the Watson family and "New Gardens"(presumably the present-day >> "God`s Acre" Quaker graveyard found in the northern part of the >> Ballybrommell townland). >> >> Bye for now, >> Roger >> http://nolanfamilies.org >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: michael purcell >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:36 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Unthank family+Carlow. >> >> *Re. Letter from George Unthank living in New York 1831.* >> >> *The Unthank family were associated with the Society of Friends ( Quakers >> ). >> Abel Unthank is recorded in the Pat Purcell Papers living in Carlow in >> 1797. >> Thebious [ ? ] Unthank witnessed the purchase of land in Fenagh by Samuel >> Watson in 1656. >> Unthank had come to Ireland under the command of Robert Browne as a >> soldier >> in Cromwell's Army, some of the soldiers were granted land in Ireland in >> lieu of pay. >> Samuel Watson and two of his brothers bought some of the "granted land" >> from soldiers who wished to return to England as did Robert Browne also >> bought land from the soldiers and he later settled in the Pollerton area, >> renaming the acquired land "Brownes Hill". >> Browne also purchased property in Tullow Street, Cuckoo Lane ( now Browne >> Street ) in Carlow town and land in Graigue ( now Graiguecullen ) and >> Sleaty. >> The Unthanks became involved with the Watson family of Kilconnor, Carlow, >> in the Milling business and farming interests. I think they are also >> recorded as witnesses to some Watson marriages. >> In the Pat Purcell Papers it is recorded that Abel Unthank gave a >> declaration before Benjamin Bunbury on 24th November, 1797, with Unthank >> refusing to swear on the Holy Evangelists because he was a >> "member of the Sect commonly called Quakers", but he "Declared" >> information >> regarding- >> "persons not having the love and fear of God before their eyes assembling >> nightly in a Evil and riotous manner in the vicinity of New Gardens, >> Carlow, which Informant truly believes and Declares to be a Party of >> Rebels >> under the influence of France in readiness for War against the Crown and >> Dignity of his Sovereign Lord George, King, Defender of the Faith and so >> forth and His Majesties Forces in His Kingdom of Ireland" -. >> Bunbury noted that despite the fact that Unthank was reluctant to swear >> under Oath his "examination should be presented as a true Testament >> before >> the Magistrates sitting in Carlow.". >> The Carlow family later established a branch in Ballyfin, Queen's County. >> There is a record of Samuel and Mathilda Unthank buried in the Burial >> ground in Oak Park. >> The following is extracted from - >> "The Onthank Family: >> Its History and Genealogy" by Arthur Heath Onthank. >> The Origin of the Unthank or Onthank Family in Ireland is obscure. the >> only reliable explanation thus far has come from Herbert William Unthank, >> of Exeter, England. >> Mr. Unthank, a University Lecturer at the University of Exeter, came from >> the Limerick branch of the Unthank family in Ireland, and has his family >> genealogy among the Irish Unthanks accurately recorded for seven >> generations past. >> He believed that the earliest Unthank to settle in Ireland was one of the >> soldiers of Oliver Cromwell, who invaded Ireland in 1650, and >> subsequently >> settled many of his soldiers, and others from England, on land in >> Ireland. >> Herbert William Unthank's forebears were Quakers and they settled in and >> near Limerick, Ireland. >> A branch of the Onthank's from Ballyfin Queens County, Ireland immigrated >> to in or around the Baltimore, Maryland area around 1850 until 1890. They >> then moved to Cheyenne, Wyoming and Later Pocatello, Idaho. Further >> spread >> includes Butte, Montana, Spokane Washington, Portland Oregon along with >> possibly California* >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/01/2012 01:00:18
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1828,Hopkins,Bunbury,Graves,Feltus.
    2. michael purcell
    3. not sure if that should read 1826 or 1828 ?. On 1 June 2012 18:23, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > Pat Purcell Papers. > 1828. > I Abraham Hopkins of Ballybit,Carlow, Farmer, do swear on the Holy > Evangelists that I have planted or caused to be planted within twelve > Calender months, last past, on the lands of Ballybit in the Parish of > Rathvilly, Barony of Rathvilly, and County of Carlow, lands held by me from > Thomas Bunbury,Esquire, the undermentioned Trees, Viz.~~ > 100 Elm Quicks. > 100 Oak. > 100 Limes. > 100 Poplar. > 100 Larch. > 50 Ash Plants. > 20 Sweet Chestnut. > 10 Spurge Laurels. > 10 English Elms. > 10 Horse Chestnut. > 10 Balm of Gitead. > 10 Laurestines. > 10 Portugal Laurels. > 10 Phillyears.. > 12 Hollys. > 10 American Black Spruce. > 10 Alder. > 10 Dutch Alder. > 10 Aspalia Apple. > 10 Timber Sallow. > 10 Plumb. > 10 Pear Trees. > Deponent further saith, that he hath caused a notice in writing to be > served on Hugh Graves, Esquire, of the City of Dublin who is Agent or the > Receiver of the Rents for the aforesaid Thomas Bunbury, Esquire under whom > Deponent holds said Lands, of my intention to register said trees to be > advertised in Saunders's News Letter thirty days at the least previous to > the date hereoff (signed) Abraham Hopkins. > Sworn before me this 16th day of February 1828 at Carlow. (signed) Adam > B.Feltus.. >

    06/01/2012 12:37:40
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1828,Hopkins,Bunbury,Graves,Feltus.
    2. michael purcell
    3. Pat Purcell Papers. 1828. I Abraham Hopkins of Ballybit,Carlow, Farmer, do swear on the Holy Evangelists that I have planted or caused to be planted within twelve Calender months, last past, on the lands of Ballybit in the Parish of Rathvilly, Barony of Rathvilly, and County of Carlow, lands held by me from Thomas Bunbury,Esquire, the undermentioned Trees, Viz.~~ 100 Elm Quicks. 100 Oak. 100 Limes. 100 Poplar. 100 Larch. 50 Ash Plants. 20 Sweet Chestnut. 10 Spurge Laurels. 10 English Elms. 10 Horse Chestnut. 10 Balm of Gitead. 10 Laurestines. 10 Portugal Laurels. 10 Phillyears.. 12 Hollys. 10 American Black Spruce. 10 Alder. 10 Dutch Alder. 10 Aspalia Apple. 10 Timber Sallow. 10 Plumb. 10 Pear Trees. Deponent further saith, that he hath caused a notice in writing to be served on Hugh Graves, Esquire, of the City of Dublin who is Agent or the Receiver of the Rents for the aforesaid Thomas Bunbury, Esquire under whom Deponent holds said Lands, of my intention to register said trees to be advertised in Saunders's News Letter thirty days at the least previous to the date hereoff (signed) Abraham Hopkins. Sworn before me this 16th day of February 1828 at Carlow. (signed) Adam B.Feltus..

    06/01/2012 12:23:23
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1827,Hopkins,Bunbury,Fishbourne.Humfrey.
    2. michael purcell
    3. Pat Purcell Papers. 1827. I Abraham Hopkins of Ballybit,Carlow, Farmer, do swear that I have planted or caused to be planted within twelve Calender months, last past, on the lands of Ballybit in the Parish of Rathvilly, Barony of Rathvilly, and County of Carlow, lands held by me from Thomas Bunbury,Esquire, the following trees, Viz. 1,335 Larch Deal. 204 Scotch Fir Deal. 261 Birch. 108 Ash. 22 Spruce Fir. making in the entire 1,930 trees and that I have Given notice to the Person or Persons under whom I immediately Derive on his, her or their Agent of my intention to register the said trees twenty days at the least previous to this Day, and that I have also Given Notice of the same in writing to the Head Landlord, owner and owners of Said Ground or his or their Agent twenty days Previous to the Date hereof (signed) Abraham Hopkins. Sworn before me this 8th day of January 1827 at Carlow, one of his Majestys Justices of the Peace, in and for Carlow County and I know the Deponent. (signed) William Fishbourne. Read at Carlow January 1827 (signed) Alex Humfrey.

    06/01/2012 09:55:47
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1817,Kehoe,Bunbury,Bessoninet.
    2. michael purcell
    3. [ Note added 2012. John Bessoninet or Bissonnette descended from early Huguenot settlers in Carlow, there is more on the family in the PPP, unable to locate it at present. ] Pat Purcell Papers. 1817. The Affidavit of Mark Kehoe of Ballybit, Carlow,Farmer, taken before James Bessoninet? one of his Majesty's Justices of the Peace for Carlow. Deponent / Mark Kehoe / being duly Sworn and examined, Saith that he hath planted or caused to be planted since the first day of February last past, on the Lands of Ballybit, being Part of the Estate of Thomas Bunbury, Esquire, in said County Viz: 2200 of Scotch Fir Trees. 170 Larch Trees. 80 Spruce. 30 Chestnut. 290 Ash Trees. Further Deponent Saith Not. (signed) Mark Keogh. Sworn before me this [ blank ] Day of January 1817. (signed) James Bessoninet?. Read at a Grand General Sessions held at Tullow, January 17th 1817 (signed) Alex Humfrey, Clerk of the Peace.

    06/01/2012 09:30:56
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1821,Establishing Roots.
    2. michael purcell
    3. "By the end of the 17th century a great deal of Ireland's natural woodland had been cut down and timber was beginning to be in short supply. Sir William Petty suggested that two million trees should be planted. It would appear that over 200,000 trees were planted in Carlow between 1770 and 1890. In 1698, the first of seventeen Acts was applied to Ireland to enforce, or at least to encourage, the planting of trees. The provisions of the 1765 Act, stated that, on the expiration of his lease, a tenant could claim for the value of the trees that he had planted, provided that he certified this planting and then lodged the certificate with the clerk of the peace for the county. This exercise resulted in the Register of Trees which have survived for various counties in Ireland. The registrations were recorded at the quarter sessions and published in The Dublin Gazette. Subsequently this information was entered in the ledger entitled Register of Trees into which, depending on the diligence of the Justice of the Peace, the original affidavits were copied out in full or in summary form. This information can be useful to genealogists interested in a particular family who had long-established roots in a particular townland or county. Note added 2012 by Michael Purcell : I believe that many of the trees claimed for during this period were not planted, the application was a means of availing of the grant, all one needed was a friendly Justice of the Peace or a fellow Magistrate to witness your signature on claiming the grant. Sources: Crown and Peace Records, Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, Pat Purcell Papers, Browne-Clayton Archive and Turtle Bunbury.] On 1 June 2012 14:50, Ellen <[email protected]> wrote: > Please forgive my ignorance on the subject, but why were trees > registered? Was this an attempt to reforest Ireland? > Thanks, Ellen > > --- On Fri, 6/1/12, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: michael purcell <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1821,Establishing Roots. > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 9:32 AM > > Pat Purcell Papers. > 1821. > Take Notice that I have planted, or caused to be planted on the Lands of > Ballanaacrea in the Parish of Myshall, Barony of Forth and County of > Carlow, lands held by me from John Whelan, Esquire, the following trees: > 100 Larch. > 200 Ash. > 390 Spruce. > 130 Mountain Ash. > 125 Alder. > 90 Sycamore. > 50 American Black Spruce. > 62 Apple. > 25 Platting. > 50 Lime. > 20 Silver Fir. > 50 Birch. > 20 Scotch Fir. > and that I have given notice to the said John Whelan, Esquire. > Under whom I immediately derive of my Intention to register the trees and > that I have given notice of my intention to register the trees by publick > advertisment in the Dublin Gazette thirty days at the least previous to the > date hereof. (signed) James Corragan. > Sworn before me this 25th day of October 1822 (signed) John Cornwall. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/01/2012 09:00:01
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1825,Walker,Bradly,LaTouche,Carr,Doyne,Newton.
    2. michael purcell
    3. Pat Purcell Papers. 1825. NOTICE. John Walker of Ballyknocken?,Carlow, came before me, one of his Majestys Justices of the Peace, and Voluntarily made Oath on the Holy Evangelists that he has planted / or caused to be planted / the twelve calender months last past, on the lands of Ballyknocken? in the Parish of Fenagh, Carlow, lands held by him / as asigned by Henry Bradly / from David LaTouche, Esquire, and being the property of the Right Honourable William Carr, Lord Beresford, the following trees, viz ~ 1,000 Oak. 1,300 Larch. 1,000 Scoth Fir. 1,300 Birch. 500 Spruce Fir. 200 Ash. and 50 Lime. And that he has given notice to Charles Doyne, Esquire, accreditted agent of the said Right Honourable William Carr, Lord Beresford, of his intention to register said trees more than thirty days previous to the date hereof. Dated October 19th 1825. (signed) John Walker. Sworn before me the 21st October 1825. (signed) Philip Newton.

    06/01/2012 08:55:28
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1821,Establishing Roots.
    2. michael purcell
    3. Pat Purcell Papers. 1821. Take Notice that I have planted, or caused to be planted on the Lands of Ballanaacrea in the Parish of Myshall, Barony of Forth and County of Carlow, lands held by me from John Whelan, Esquire, the following trees: 100 Larch. 200 Ash. 390 Spruce. 130 Mountain Ash. 125 Alder. 90 Sycamore. 50 American Black Spruce. 62 Apple. 25 Platting. 50 Lime. 20 Silver Fir. 50 Birch. 20 Scotch Fir. and that I have given notice to the said John Whelan, Esquire. Under whom I immediately derive of my Intention to register the trees and that I have given notice of my intention to register the trees by publick advertisment in the Dublin Gazette thirty days at the least previous to the date hereof. (signed) James Corragan. Sworn before me this 25th day of October 1822 (signed) John Cornwall.

    06/01/2012 08:32:04
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Pre-Rebellion Activity in MOANMORE area - Ref: UNTHANK family testimony
    2. Roger Nowlan
    3. Greetings, I would just like to pass on an observation. Below in the testimony of Thebius UNTHANK in November 1797, we find evidence of what is believed to have been activity by United Irishmen in the area of Moanmore and Ballybrommell (where "Farmer Clowry" of 1798 fame lived). The Quaker meeting house was on the neighbouring townland of Kilconnor owned by the Watson family and "New Gardens"(presumably the present-day "God`s Acre" Quaker graveyard found in the northern part of the Ballybrommell townland). Bye for now, Roger http://nolanfamilies.org -----Original Message----- From: michael purcell Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Unthank family+Carlow. *Re. Letter from George Unthank living in New York 1831.* *The Unthank family were associated with the Society of Friends ( Quakers ). Abel Unthank is recorded in the Pat Purcell Papers living in Carlow in 1797. Thebious [ ? ] Unthank witnessed the purchase of land in Fenagh by Samuel Watson in 1656. Unthank had come to Ireland under the command of Robert Browne as a soldier in Cromwell's Army, some of the soldiers were granted land in Ireland in lieu of pay. Samuel Watson and two of his brothers bought some of the "granted land" from soldiers who wished to return to England as did Robert Browne also bought land from the soldiers and he later settled in the Pollerton area, renaming the acquired land "Brownes Hill". Browne also purchased property in Tullow Street, Cuckoo Lane ( now Browne Street ) in Carlow town and land in Graigue ( now Graiguecullen ) and Sleaty. The Unthanks became involved with the Watson family of Kilconnor, Carlow, in the Milling business and farming interests. I think they are also recorded as witnesses to some Watson marriages. In the Pat Purcell Papers it is recorded that Abel Unthank gave a declaration before Benjamin Bunbury on 24th November, 1797, with Unthank refusing to swear on the Holy Evangelists because he was a "member of the Sect commonly called Quakers", but he "Declared" information regarding- "persons not having the love and fear of God before their eyes assembling nightly in a Evil and riotous manner in the vicinity of New Gardens, Carlow, which Informant truly believes and Declares to be a Party of Rebels under the influence of France in readiness for War against the Crown and Dignity of his Sovereign Lord George, King, Defender of the Faith and so forth and His Majesties Forces in His Kingdom of Ireland" -. Bunbury noted that despite the fact that Unthank was reluctant to swear under Oath his "examination should be presented as a true Testament before the Magistrates sitting in Carlow.". The Carlow family later established a branch in Ballyfin, Queen's County. There is a record of Samuel and Mathilda Unthank buried in the Burial ground in Oak Park. The following is extracted from - "The Onthank Family: Its History and Genealogy" by Arthur Heath Onthank. The Origin of the Unthank or Onthank Family in Ireland is obscure. the only reliable explanation thus far has come from Herbert William Unthank, of Exeter, England. Mr. Unthank, a University Lecturer at the University of Exeter, came from the Limerick branch of the Unthank family in Ireland, and has his family genealogy among the Irish Unthanks accurately recorded for seven generations past. He believed that the earliest Unthank to settle in Ireland was one of the soldiers of Oliver Cromwell, who invaded Ireland in 1650, and subsequently settled many of his soldiers, and others from England, on land in Ireland. Herbert William Unthank's forebears were Quakers and they settled in and near Limerick, Ireland. A branch of the Onthank's from Ballyfin Queens County, Ireland immigrated to in or around the Baltimore, Maryland area around 1850 until 1890. They then moved to Cheyenne, Wyoming and Later Pocatello, Idaho. Further spread includes Butte, Montana, Spokane Washington, Portland Oregon along with possibly California* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/01/2012 08:23:12
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1817,Kehoe,Bunbury,Bessoninet.
    2. Roger Nowlan
    3. Hi! As a matter of interest the family name Bissonnette is found here in Canada. Where I live there was a honey producer, a French Canadian, who had that family name. Presumably, he would have been distantly related to the other one in France (or some principality, like Monaco, which existed back then in the 1700s; for example, one of my ancestors, an André Jaillet, a Huguenot, came to Halifax and Lunenburg, Canada, in 1752, from Montbeliard, France, then an independent principality; the family, however, was originally from Switzerland. The family emigrated via Germany, assembling with other families at Ruhrort on the Rhine). Bye for now, Roger -----Original Message----- From: michael purcell Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 10:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1817,Kehoe,Bunbury,Bessoninet. [ Note added 2012. John Bessoninet or Bissonnette descended from early Huguenot settlers in Carlow, there is more on the family in the PPP, unable to locate it at present. ] Pat Purcell Papers. 1817. The Affidavit of Mark Kehoe of Ballybit, Carlow,Farmer, taken before James Bessoninet? one of his Majesty's Justices of the Peace for Carlow. Deponent / Mark Kehoe / being duly Sworn and examined, Saith that he hath planted or caused to be planted since the first day of February last past, on the Lands of Ballybit, being Part of the Estate of Thomas Bunbury, Esquire, in said County Viz: 2200 of Scotch Fir Trees. 170 Larch Trees. 80 Spruce. 30 Chestnut. 290 Ash Trees. Further Deponent Saith Not. (signed) Mark Keogh. Sworn before me this [ blank ] Day of January 1817. (signed) James Bessoninet?. Read at a Grand General Sessions held at Tullow, January 17th 1817 (signed) Alex Humfrey, Clerk of the Peace. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/01/2012 08:04:35
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Bowles
    2. michael purcell
    3. yes Tom, a great find indeed, "90% new to you" is music to my ears, your comments are very much appreciated by me and my "helpers". Funny but we have to thank Unthank family research for leading us to this discovery !, mick On 1 June 2012 00:45, Tom LaPorte <[email protected]> wrote: > > I just wanted to mention that there was a much appreciated side product of > the wonderful work that the PPP researchers and transcribers are doing. > Michael Purcell just sent me, off-list as it isn't Carlow information, an > extensive Bowles research paper done by a family history researcher in > Limerick. Apparently it was discovered by a PPP researcher while > connecting up some of the Carlow family names in the PPP papers. 90% of > the information is new to me which is fairly remarkable as I've been > gathering Bowles in Ireland information for over 10 years now and and it > also gives me a connection to a previously unknown fellow Bowles family > researcher in Ireland. > This group's efforts have been phenomenal. The information that has been > transcribed and posted on this list is truly invaluable and then secondary > benefits such as this side discovery and the networking and forum > discussions that develop following so many of these postings makes this > forum and overall project possibly one of the best on the Internet! > It's very much appreciated. > Tom > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/01/2012 03:03:39
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Establishing Roots. Thank you Michael
    2. Ellen
    3. That explains it very well!  Many thanks --- On Fri, 6/1/12, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: From: michael purcell <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1821,Establishing Roots. To: [email protected] Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 10:00 AM "By the end of the 17th century a great deal of Ireland's natural woodland had been cut down and timber was beginning to be in short supply. Sir William Petty suggested that two million trees should be planted. It would appear that over 200,000 trees were planted in Carlow between 1770 and 1890. In 1698, the first of seventeen Acts was applied to Ireland to enforce, or at least to encourage, the planting of trees. The provisions of the 1765 Act, stated that, on the expiration of his lease, a tenant could claim for the value of the trees that he had planted, provided that he certified this planting and then lodged the certificate with the clerk of the peace for the county. This exercise resulted in the Register of Trees which have survived for various counties in Ireland. The registrations were recorded at the quarter sessions and published in The Dublin Gazette. Subsequently this information was entered in the ledger entitled Register of Trees into which, depending on the diligence of the Justice of the Peace, the original affidavits were copied out in full or in summary form. This information can be useful to genealogists interested in a particular family who had long-established roots in a particular townland or county. Note added 2012 by Michael Purcell : I  believe that many of the trees claimed for during this period were not planted, the application was a means of availing of the grant, all one needed was a friendly Justice of the Peace or a fellow Magistrate to witness your signature on claiming the grant. Sources: Crown and Peace Records, Public Record Office of Northern Ireland, Pat Purcell Papers, Browne-Clayton Archive and Turtle Bunbury.] On 1 June 2012 14:50, Ellen <[email protected]> wrote: > Please forgive my ignorance on the subject, but why were trees > registered?  Was this an attempt to reforest Ireland? > Thanks, Ellen > > --- On Fri, 6/1/12, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: michael purcell <[email protected]> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1821,Establishing Roots. > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 9:32 AM > > Pat Purcell Papers. > 1821. > Take Notice that I have planted, or caused to be planted on the Lands of > Ballanaacrea in the Parish of Myshall, Barony of Forth and County of > Carlow, lands held by me from John Whelan, Esquire, the following trees: > 100 Larch. > 200 Ash. > 390 Spruce. > 130 Mountain Ash. > 125 Alder. > 90 Sycamore. > 50 American Black Spruce. > 62 Apple. > 25 Platting. > 50 Lime. > 20 Silver Fir. > 50 Birch. > 20 Scotch Fir. > and that I have given notice to the said John Whelan, Esquire. > Under whom I immediately derive of my Intention to register the trees and > that I have given notice of my intention to register the trees by publick > advertisment in the Dublin Gazette thirty days at the least previous to the > date hereof. (signed) James Corragan. > Sworn before me this 25th day of October 1822 (signed) John Cornwall. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/01/2012 01:02:52
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1821,Establishing Roots.
    2. Ellen
    3. Please forgive my ignorance on the subject, but why were trees registered?  Was this an attempt to reforest Ireland? Thanks, Ellen --- On Fri, 6/1/12, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: From: michael purcell <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1821,Establishing Roots. To: [email protected] Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 9:32 AM Pat Purcell Papers. 1821. Take Notice that I have planted, or caused to be planted on the Lands of Ballanaacrea in the Parish of Myshall, Barony of Forth and County of Carlow, lands held by me from John Whelan, Esquire, the following trees: 100 Larch. 200 Ash. 390 Spruce. 130 Mountain Ash. 125 Alder. 90 Sycamore. 50 American Black Spruce. 62 Apple. 25 Platting. 50 Lime. 20 Silver Fir. 50 Birch. 20 Scotch Fir. and that I have given notice to the said John Whelan, Esquire. Under whom I immediately derive of my Intention to register the trees and that I have given notice of my intention to register the trees by publick advertisment in the Dublin Gazette thirty days at the least previous to the date hereof. (signed) James Corragan. Sworn before me this 25th day of October 1822 (signed) John Cornwall. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/01/2012 12:50:41
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Correction to Unthank declaration.
    2. michael purcell
    3. [ should have stated "our Sovereign Lord George" ]. In the Pat Purcell Papers it is recorded that Abel Unthank gave a declaration before Benjamin Bunbury on 24th November, 1797, with Unthank declining to swear on the Holy Evangelists because he was a "member of the Sect commonly called Quakers", but he "Declared" information regarding- "persons not having the love and fear of God before their eyes assembling nightly in a Evil and riotous manner in the vicinity of New Gardens, Carlow, which Informant truly believes and Declares to be a Party of Rebels under the influence of France in readiness for War against the Crown and Dignity of our Sovereign Lord George, King, Defender of the Faith and so forth and His Majesties Forces in His Kingdom of Ireland" -. Bunbury noted that despite the fact that Unthank was reluctant to swear under Oath his "examination should be presented as a true Testament before the Magistrates sitting in Carlow.".

    05/31/2012 02:32:09
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Unthank family+Carlow.
    2. michael purcell
    3. *Re. Letter from George Unthank living in New York 1831.* *The Unthank family were associated with the Society of Friends ( Quakers ). Abel Unthank is recorded in the Pat Purcell Papers living in Carlow in 1797. Thebious [ ? ] Unthank witnessed the purchase of land in Fenagh by Samuel Watson in 1656. Unthank had come to Ireland under the command of Robert Browne as a soldier in Cromwell's Army, some of the soldiers were granted land in Ireland in lieu of pay. Samuel Watson and two of his brothers bought some of the "granted land" from soldiers who wished to return to England as did Robert Browne also bought land from the soldiers and he later settled in the Pollerton area, renaming the acquired land "Brownes Hill". Browne also purchased property in Tullow Street, Cuckoo Lane ( now Browne Street ) in Carlow town and land in Graigue ( now Graiguecullen ) and Sleaty. The Unthanks became involved with the Watson family of Kilconnor, Carlow, in the Milling business and farming interests. I think they are also recorded as witnesses to some Watson marriages. In the Pat Purcell Papers it is recorded that Abel Unthank gave a declaration before Benjamin Bunbury on 24th November, 1797, with Unthank refusing to swear on the Holy Evangelists because he was a "member of the Sect commonly called Quakers", but he "Declared" information regarding- "persons not having the love and fear of God before their eyes assembling nightly in a Evil and riotous manner in the vicinity of New Gardens, Carlow, which Informant truly believes and Declares to be a Party of Rebels under the influence of France in readiness for War against the Crown and Dignity of his Sovereign Lord George, King, Defender of the Faith and so forth and His Majesties Forces in His Kingdom of Ireland" -. Bunbury noted that despite the fact that Unthank was reluctant to swear under Oath his "examination should be presented as a true Testament before the Magistrates sitting in Carlow.". The Carlow family later established a branch in Ballyfin, Queen's County. There is a record of Samuel and Mathilda Unthank buried in the Burial ground in Oak Park. The following is extracted from - "The Onthank Family: Its History and Genealogy" by Arthur Heath Onthank. The Origin of the Unthank or Onthank Family in Ireland is obscure. the only reliable explanation thus far has come from Herbert William Unthank, of Exeter, England. Mr. Unthank, a University Lecturer at the University of Exeter, came from the Limerick branch of the Unthank family in Ireland, and has his family genealogy among the Irish Unthanks accurately recorded for seven generations past. He believed that the earliest Unthank to settle in Ireland was one of the soldiers of Oliver Cromwell, who invaded Ireland in 1650, and subsequently settled many of his soldiers, and others from England, on land in Ireland. Herbert William Unthank's forebears were Quakers and they settled in and near Limerick, Ireland. A branch of the Onthank's from Ballyfin Queens County, Ireland immigrated to in or around the Baltimore, Maryland area around 1850 until 1890. They then moved to Cheyenne, Wyoming and Later Pocatello, Idaho. Further spread includes Butte, Montana, Spokane Washington, Portland Oregon along with possibly California*

    05/31/2012 01:36:04
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Unthank family+Carlow+Queens County+Limerick.
    2. michael purcell
    3. *Re. Letter from George Unthank living in New York 1831. *The Unthank family were associated with the Society of Friends ( Quakers ). Abel Unthank is recorded in the Pat Purcell Papers living in Carlow in 1797. Thebious [ ? ] Unthank witnessed the purchase of land in Fenagh by Samuel Watson in 1656. Unthank had come to Ireland under the command of Robert Browne as a soldier in Cromwell's Army, some of the soldiers were granted land in Ireland in lieu of pay. Samuel Watson and two of his brothers bought some of the "granted land" from soldiers who wished to return to England as did Robert Browne also bought land from the soldiers and he later settled in the Pollerton area, renaming the acquired land "Brownes Hill". Browne also purchased property in Tullow Street, Cuckoo Lane ( now Browne Street ) in Carlow town and land in Graigue ( now Graiguecullen ) and Sleaty. The Unthanks became involved with the Watson family of Kilconnor, Carlow, in the Milling business and farming interests. I think they are also recorded as witnesses to some Watson marriages. In the Pat Purcell Papers it is recorded that Abel Unthank gave a declaration before Benjamin Bunbury on 24th November, 1797, with Unthank refusing to swear on the Holy Evangelists because he was a "member of the Sect commonly called Quakers", but he "Declared" information regarding- "persons not having the love and fear of God before their eyes assembling nightly in a Evil and riotous manner in the vicinity of New Gardens, Carlow, which Informant truly believes and Declares to be a Party of Rebels under the influence of France in readiness for War against the Crown and Dignity of his Sovereign Lord George, King, Defender of the Faith and so forth and His Majesties Forces in His Kingdom of Ireland" -. Bunbury noted that despite the fact that Unthank was reluctant to swear under Oath his "examination should be presented as a true Testament before the Magistrates sitting in Carlow.". The Carlow family later established a branch in Ballyfin, Queen's County. There is a record of Samuel and Mathilda Unthank buried in the Burial ground in Oak Park. The following is extracted from - "The Onthank Family: Its History and Genealogy" by Arthur Heath Onthank. The Origin of the Unthank or Onthank Family in Ireland is obscure. the only reliable explanation thus far has come from Herbert William Unthank, of Exeter, England. Mr. Unthank, a University Lecturer at the University of Exeter, came from the Limerick branch of the Unthank family in Ireland, and has his family genealogy among the Irish Unthanks accurately recorded for seven generations past. He believed that the earliest Unthank to settle in Ireland was one of the soldiers of Oliver Cromwell, who invaded Ireland in 1650, and subsequently settled many of his soldiers, and others from England, on land in Ireland. Herbert William Unthank's forebears were Quakers and they settled in and near Limerick, Ireland. A branch of the Onthank's from Ballyfin Queens County, Ireland immigrated to in or around the Baltimore, Maryland area around 1850 until 1890. They then moved to Cheyenne, Wyoming and Later Pocatello, Idaho. Further spread includes Butte, Montana, Spokane Washington, Portland Oregon along with possibly California.

    05/31/2012 01:03:47
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Bowles
    2. Tom LaPorte
    3. I just wanted to mention that there was a much appreciated side product of the wonderful work that the PPP researchers and transcribers are doing. Michael Purcell just sent me, off-list as it isn't Carlow information, an extensive Bowles research paper done by a family history researcher in Limerick. Apparently it was discovered by a PPP researcher while connecting up some of the Carlow family names in the PPP papers. 90% of the information is new to me which is fairly remarkable as I've been gathering Bowles in Ireland information for over 10 years now and and it also gives me a connection to a previously unknown fellow Bowles family researcher in Ireland. This group's efforts have been phenomenal. The information that has been transcribed and posted on this list is truly invaluable and then secondary benefits such as this side discovery and the networking and forum discussions that develop following so many of these postings makes this forum and overall project possibly one of the best on the Internet! It's very much appreciated. Tom

    05/31/2012 12:45:31
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Letter 1831.
    2. noel walsh
    3. ** ** George Unthank, New York City to John Conville, Limerick, Ireland. 16th February 1831. Dear John, Several steam ferry boats ply from hence across the East river to Long Island a distance of 1200 yards in about 10 Minutes, and across the Hudson to Jersey, about 2000 yards, in fifteen minutes. they are so continuous that Coaches, Wagons, &c with all their company, and loading, drive on an inclined plane from the wharves upon their decks, and out again upon the same. the wharves are generally built with Timber. There are also many Timber houses in the principal streets, this City is about two thirds the size of Dublin and contains one Hundred and eighty thousand inhabitants about ten thousand of whom are black or people of colour, it increases prodigiously every year, the number of new houses built last year exceeded three thousand, and the population encrease in the ratio of five to each house, it must in a few years be much larger than Dublin, the streets are generally wide and straight, intersecting each other at right angles, but the houses are very irregular in the Old parts of the town and the Middle of the streets are kept in the worst areas, here are no fine green squares such as Stephens Green, nor are there any Buildings that can be called elegant, Many ranges of houses in New Streets are very handsome and uniform, but not to be compared to the leading Streets in Dublin or London or even Georges Street in Limerick, with the exception of Broadway, which is the principal one, with a flagged footway at either side twelve to fourteen feet wide, the Shops, which are here called Stores, are not so well stocked, nor are their proprietors so wealthy as those of Dublin or Cork. Rents are enormously high, a house much inferior to yours, Situated in one of the leading Streets of business would let for two to three thousands Dollars a year. Landlords do not usually grant leases of houses but let them to tenants at will from year to year, this practice produces the greatest inconvenience to people of business, whose rent if they have formed an establishment, and thus enhance the value of Premises the Landlord will raise at pleasure, and if they do not submit, he will let their houses over their heads and turn them into the Street. Here are no religious distinctions, all men of good character are eligible to every public office without exception, the laws are mild but rigorously executed, thefts are not so frequent as in Ireland, perhaps because the people are not so poor, the shop doors to the Streets are half Glazed, and constantly shut, large quantities of Goods of every description lay outside the different shops and warehouses; notwithstanding. Very few instances of petty larceny occur, the people in general are civil, but disgustingly free in their manners, in their dealings they are very sharp, and usually disposed to take every advantage, honesty and integrity appear to me to be at a low ebb; and if a stranger be not very cautious and circumspect, he will be soon shorn of any wool he may have, and must then turn to shearing himself. Our Countrymen here are very numerous, reckoned at about fifteen thousand. no common beggars prowl the Streets, any industrious person can get work and may soon become independent; Carpenters, Masons, Smiths and other tradesmen have constant employment and can earn from 1 1/2 to 2 dollars a day. Labourers one dollar a day, the Sawyers of fire wood who are in general Irishmen and blacks are computed at One thousand, they go about with a whip saw and a cross to lay the wood in and they earn from one to two dollars a day. Several respectable merchants and traders in this city are Irishmen, but our countrymen here, as in every other place, are generally employed in the most laborious occupations, as digging Canals, attending brick layers, loading and unloading Ships, carrying burthens etc, the exceptions are few; Several Irishmen who are not able or willing to work hawk oranges, Lemons, apples &c about the Streets - and about two hundred of them are employed driving hackney coaches. I have observed that the low Irish are the worst conditioned people in this country - on their first landing they are extremely meek and Servile, after mixing a short time with their Countrymen and hearing that all men are here free and equal in respect to their rights, they think that freedom consists in being at liberty to do as they please, and they become intollerably insolent, but at length after receiving repeated chastisements, they in two or three years become tollerably well conducted; Brandy is so very cheap and the climate so much in extremes of heat and cold that excessive drinking, even amongst the better classes, is not unfrequent. I was much surprized to see many respectable Merchants drinking Punch in Public houses betwixt Breakfast and dinner, an act which, you know, would destroy any mans character forever in Ireland. Many Irishmen who scraped together a little money, commenced selling grog, and by such beginnings, several have realized considerable fortunes, you seldom see a person in a state of inebriety in the Streets, the laws against drunkeness are severe and rigourously enforced. There are several fine converted Markets in every part of the City, all well supplied, Beef is good, Mutton much inferior to ours, Turkeys 30 lbs. weight. Poultry in general not so well flavored as the Irish, Potatoes abundant, but very bad. Fish must be brought alive to market. it is neither so good, nor in so great variety as in Ireland, Oysters are plenty and good. the prices of provisions about the same as with you, but clothing is dearer, with the exception of house rent, you can live as cheap in New York as in Limerick, as an instance I am boarded and lodged in a highly respectable family for four Dollars per week. the climate of New York is unhealthy, deaths average one hundred per week, consumption is the most common disease. I fear your patience will be worn out, therefore I will bring this long desultory letter to an end. Write soon, George.

    05/31/2012 04:27:27
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1821, Hamilton,Bernard,Bennet.
    2. michael purcell
    3. Pat Purcell Papers. Carlow Morning Post. December 1821. DIED. In Gardiners-place, Dublin, Mrs Hamilton, wife of Charles Hamilton, Esquire, and daughter to the late Thomas Bernard, Esquire, of Gayville, Carlow. The deceased was a most excellent woman; she was brought up, we may say, under our own eyes, by her kinsman and guardian, John Bennet, Esquire, of Viewmount, Carlow - having lost both parents at a very tender age - . She has now in her 27th year, left a disconsolate husband and three infant children to deplore their irreparable loss.

    05/29/2012 08:28:08
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1812, Purcell,Nowlan,Decey,Bennet.
    2. michael purcell
    3. [ Note added 2012 by Michael Purcell - 200 years ago today 12 year-old John Purcell swore the Information posted below. A scan of this document was posted recently by Michael Brennan, my thanks to Karen Conderon in Canada for her help in transcribing the document. The 1788 General Directory for Carlow lists : Edward Decey, soap boiler and chandler, Castle Street, Carlow. Obviously Decey owns a few cattle as well because in this "Information" John Purcell, a 12 year-old boy, states his occupation as "Cow Boy to Mr Edward Decey" John Nowlan is employed as an apprentice to Mr Decey, he has stolen some grease from Decey. Nowlan enlists the aid of John Purcell to sell the "Grease or Fat" offering him " five pence and a glass of Spirits" if he manages to sell it. Purcell sells the Grease, Nowlan gives Purcell the five pence and a Glass of Spirits !. Here is the "Information" with some adjustments for the modern reader. ] Pat Purcell Papers. 1812. County of Carlow to Wit. The Information of John Purcell of the Town of Carlow, Cow Boy to Mr Edward Decey of said Town, who appears to be about Twelve Years of Age or there abouts and who Testifys a most Astute Observation as to his Conception of the Nature of an Oath and the Dreadfull Consequences attendant on Perjury,= Saith that on Tuesday the 26th Inst. as Informant [ John Purcell ] best recollects John Nowlan now a Prisoner in Carlow Gaol, apprentice to Mr Edward Decey, Chandler, in said Town called to Purcell in the Publick Street of Carlow and asked Purcell could He keep a Secrett, Purcell Reply’d he did not know until he would hear it.= Whereupon said John Nowlan did say to Purcell that he had a Little Bitt of Grease to sell and if Purcell would sell it he would give him five Pence and a Glass and to say the grease was at the Mess House. John Nowlan got the grease, and particularly desired Purcell to Deny His Name, and Desired Purcell also to get him nine Pence Per Pound for said Grease if He could. Purcell further saith He did dispose of said Grease or Fat as directed by said John Nowlan to a Person of the name of Kenny? ([ or Keary ? ] an Inhabitant of Carlow and received as Purcell Recollects Eight or Nine Shillings or thereabouts which Purcell Returned to said John Nowlan and he gave Purcell five Pence and a Glass of Spirits for his Trouble. Purcell further saith he heard and Believes said Grease or Fat was the property of Mr Decey and not the Property of John Nowlan or any other Person. Sworn before me this 28th day of May 1812 ~ [ ? ] (signed) J. W. Bennett John, hisXmark, Purcell, Truly read, JWB. To Prosecute at Next Assizes.

    05/29/2012 04:35:08