[ Note added by Michael Purcell 2012 - The following was transcribed circa 1947 by Edwin Boake for the Carlovina Journal but was not submitted for publication because Edwin died shortly after completing the transcriprion, the document remains unpublished up to the present day. It appears the details were transcribed from the recording book of the Court Clerk at a General Assizes and General Gaol Delivery held in Carlow on Monday, 26th March 1798. I am grateful to the late Mr Boake of Brownshill for bringing this document to my attention.. Extracts from the Court Clerk's book were scanned recently by Trevor Clowry and the scans posted on the CarlowIGP site. Readers are invited to match Edwin's transcription with their own. ] Edwin Boake Papers.. 1798. James Cavanagh committed for trial by Walter Cavanagh on 18th November 1797 and charged with being a wicked disposed person who on the 17th November in the 38th Year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the Third, King, at Borris did Maliciously, Advisedly and Feloniesly did Endeavour to Seduce Maurice Dermody, a person serving in his Majesties forces by Land to wit - a private Soldier in his Majesties Wicklow Regiment of Militia, from his Duty and Allegiance to his Majesty by Advisedly and Feloniesly proposing to Encouraging and Endeavouring to persuade Maurice Dermody to become one of a Certain Seditious Traitorous and evil disposed party and Society of persons United and Associated for the purpose of Joining and Assisting the French Enemies of the King in case they should Land in Ireland against the Duty of his Allegience as a Soldier. For that James Cavanagh being an evil disposed person on 17th November in the 38th Year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the Third, King, at Borris designedly and Unlawfully did propose to Urge, Encourage, Solicit, and Endeavour to persuade Maurice Dermody, a private Soldier in his Majesties Wicklow Regiment of Militia to join himself to associate with and become one of a Certain Wicked Seditious and designing party and Society of persons found and associated under the Name and Denomination of United Irishmen to Evil Example and Against the Peace of the King, his Crown and Dignity. [ Morgan Cavanagh and Edward Cavanagh of St. Mullins acted as Bondsmen for the above James Cavanagh. It was ordered by the Court that James Cavanagh should be Transported for life.. ].

Thank you............and if you don't mind a second question.........where is Van Diemen's Land? I also noted that James was Transported merely on the say so of Walter. Seems rather frightening to me. In a message dated 6/9/2012 9:19:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: usually transported to Austrailia or to Van Diemen's Land. On 9 June 2012 14:01, <[email protected]> wrote: > Can you tell me what "Transported" means? > > > > > In a message dated 6/9/2012 5:23:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > [ Note added by Michael Purcell 2012 - > The following was transcribed circa 1947 by Edwin Boake for the Carlovina > Journal but was not submitted for publication because Edwin died shortly > after completing the transcriprion, the document remains unpublished up to > the present day. > It appears the details were transcribed from the recording book of the > Court Clerk at a General Assizes and General Gaol Delivery held in Carlow > on Monday, 26th March 1798. > I am grateful to the late Mr Boake of Brownshill for bringing this > document > to my attention.. > Extracts from the Court Clerk's book were scanned recently by Trevor > Clowry > and the scans posted on the CarlowIGP site. Readers are invited to match > Edwin's transcription with their own. ] > Edwin Boake Papers.. > 1798. > James Cavanagh committed for trial by Walter Cavanagh on 18th November > 1797 and charged with being a wicked disposed person who on the 17th > November in the 38th Year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the > Third, King, at Borris did Maliciously, Advisedly and Feloniesly did > Endeavour to Seduce Maurice Dermody, a person serving in his Majesties > forces by Land to wit - a private Soldier in his Majesties Wicklow > Regiment > of Militia, from his Duty and Allegiance to his Majesty by Advisedly and > Feloniesly proposing to Encouraging and Endeavouring to persuade Maurice > Dermody to become one of a Certain Seditious Traitorous and evil disposed > party and Society of persons United and Associated for the purpose of > Joining and Assisting the French Enemies of the King in case they should > Land in Ireland against the Duty of his Allegience as a Soldier. > For that James Cavanagh being an evil disposed person on 17th November in > the 38th Year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the Third, King, > at > Borris designedly and Unlawfully did propose to Urge, Encourage, Solicit, > and Endeavour to persuade Maurice Dermody, a private Soldier in his > Majesties Wicklow Regiment of Militia to join himself to associate with > and > become one of a Certain Wicked Seditious and designing party and Society > of > persons found and associated under the Name and Denomination of United > Irishmen to Evil Example and Against the Peace of the King, his Crown and > Dignity. > [ Morgan Cavanagh and Edward Cavanagh of St. Mullins acted as Bondsmen for > the above James Cavanagh. > It was ordered by the Court that James Cavanagh should be Transported for > life.. ]. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can you tell me what "Transported" means? In a message dated 6/9/2012 5:23:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: [ Note added by Michael Purcell 2012 - The following was transcribed circa 1947 by Edwin Boake for the Carlovina Journal but was not submitted for publication because Edwin died shortly after completing the transcriprion, the document remains unpublished up to the present day. It appears the details were transcribed from the recording book of the Court Clerk at a General Assizes and General Gaol Delivery held in Carlow on Monday, 26th March 1798. I am grateful to the late Mr Boake of Brownshill for bringing this document to my attention.. Extracts from the Court Clerk's book were scanned recently by Trevor Clowry and the scans posted on the CarlowIGP site. Readers are invited to match Edwin's transcription with their own. ] Edwin Boake Papers.. 1798. James Cavanagh committed for trial by Walter Cavanagh on 18th November 1797 and charged with being a wicked disposed person who on the 17th November in the 38th Year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the Third, King, at Borris did Maliciously, Advisedly and Feloniesly did Endeavour to Seduce Maurice Dermody, a person serving in his Majesties forces by Land to wit - a private Soldier in his Majesties Wicklow Regiment of Militia, from his Duty and Allegiance to his Majesty by Advisedly and Feloniesly proposing to Encouraging and Endeavouring to persuade Maurice Dermody to become one of a Certain Seditious Traitorous and evil disposed party and Society of persons United and Associated for the purpose of Joining and Assisting the French Enemies of the King in case they should Land in Ireland against the Duty of his Allegience as a Soldier. For that James Cavanagh being an evil disposed person on 17th November in the 38th Year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the Third, King, at Borris designedly and Unlawfully did propose to Urge, Encourage, Solicit, and Endeavour to persuade Maurice Dermody, a private Soldier in his Majesties Wicklow Regiment of Militia to join himself to associate with and become one of a Certain Wicked Seditious and designing party and Society of persons found and associated under the Name and Denomination of United Irishmen to Evil Example and Against the Peace of the King, his Crown and Dignity. [ Morgan Cavanagh and Edward Cavanagh of St. Mullins acted as Bondsmen for the above James Cavanagh. It was ordered by the Court that James Cavanagh should be Transported for life.. ]. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did not check before posting , should read : I am looking for information on James Dournein who married Elizabeth Gordon in Carlow on 15th April,1854. James's parents were Hugh Dourein and Jane? Stanton. On 8 June 2012 15:47, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > Letter from James Walker, NSW, Australia, to Pat Purcell. > 15th August,1952. > To. Patrick Purcell, c/o Carlow County Public Offices or Library Office, > Carlow. > Dear Mr Purcell. > I am looking for information on James and Elizabeth Dournein who married > Elizabeth Gordon in Carlow on 15th April,1854. > James's parents were Hugh Dourein and John Stanton. > Elizabeth's parents were David Gordon and Mary Ann Goldsmith. > James was Roman Catholic and Elizabeth was Presbyterian. > James and Elizabeth had 12 children. 7 of the children were born in Carlow. > They came to Australia in 1867 on the ship "Great Britain. James was 46. > Their eldest daughter, Mary Ann, died aged 14 on board the ship and was > buried at sea. > In family lore it is said that the surname "Dournein" came about because > James father, Hugh Dournein, was left as a new born infant at the door of a > Catholic Convent and the nuns named the child Doorin ?. > If it is possible I would like to have Marriage Certificate for James and > Elizabeth and Birth Certificates for the children and any information you > might find on the family. > Looking forward to your reply. > Please let me know if there is any charges for obtaining the Certificates. > Faithfully yours, James Walker. > > > > > >

Letter from James Walker, NSW, Australia, to Pat Purcell. 15th August,1952. To. Patrick Purcell, c/o Carlow County Public Offices or Library Office, Carlow. Dear Mr Purcell. I am looking for information on James and Elizabeth Dournein who married Elizabeth Gordon in Carlow on 15th April,1854. James's parents were Hugh Dourein and John Stanton. Elizabeth's parents were David Gordon and Mary Ann Goldsmith. James was Roman Catholic and Elizabeth was Presbyterian. James and Elizabeth had 12 children. 7 of the children were born in Carlow. They came to Australia in 1867 on the ship "Great Britain. James was 46. Their eldest daughter, Mary Ann, died aged 14 on board the ship and was buried at sea. In family lore it is said that the surname "Dournein" came about because James father, Hugh Dournein, was left as a new born infant at the door of a Catholic Convent and the nuns named the child Doorin ?. If it is possible I would like to have Marriage Certificate for James and Elizabeth and Birth Certificates for the children and any information you might find on the family. Looking forward to your reply. Please let me know if there is any charges for obtaining the Certificates. Faithfully yours, James Walker.

Pat Purcell Papers. 1815. Judith Malone maketh Oath that she usually Resides at Rageran in the Townland of Rageran in the Parish of Ballymurphy,Baromy of Idrone East, in the County of Carlow. (signed) Judith herXmark,Malone. Be it remembered that the above-named Judith Malone is Indebted unto our Sovereign Lord King George the Third, in the Sum of £10 Sterling and shall appear in her proper Person to Prosecute Walter Cummins of Inchenfookey for an assault and a rape. Sworn before ME at Montgerald, Carlow this 18th Day of February 1815. Fitz Gerald.

Letter in the Pat Purcell Papers. April 1929. Francis Hickson. c/o Rev. James Donnelly. St Agnes. Borough of Brooklyn, New York. April 23rd 1929. Dear Mr Purcell, you name was given to me by Tom Phelan of Grana, St Mullins, now living in Queens,New York, he tells me that you might be able to assist me in making enquirys regarding John Kenny from Carlow who was transported from Ireland to Australia on the ship "Captain Bodington" in 1792 for stealing sheep. His brother James was also transported on the same day for the same crime. The Kenny brothers were natives of Coolmanack, Hackets Town in Carlow. Their Father was James Kenny, a blacksmith, he operated a forge for a landlord in the locality. I would be very interested in learning of any information you can provide on the Kenny family. I believe the brothers were sentenced to transportation following a trial held in Carlow in 1792. Perhaps the newspapers of the time may have a report of the trial. I hope there may still be family connections living in the Carlow area as we have some information that would be to their advantage. I thank you for you time and I look forward to hearing from you. very sincerely yours, Francis Hickson. ( Note added 2012. could be Frances ?. )

[ Note added by Michael Purcell 2012, difficult to transcribe but here is the main trust of a charge recorded in the Browne-Clayton Papers.] .......Patrick Hore along with John Currin , Oliver Carey , Christopher Beaghan, John Howlett, James Muldoon were committed by Philip Newton , Esquire, on 14th March 1797. That they being Evil Disposed and Designing persons on 10th March in the 38th year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the third, King, Defender of the Faith and so Forth, did at Mount Neal, Carlow, Wickedly Unlawfully Maliciously and Feloniously did Conspire Confederate and Agree together and with certain other persons Willfully and of Malice prepared to Kill and Murder the Honorable and Reverend Francis Paul Stratford against the Peace, Crown and Dignity of our said King. ~~~~ Felling trees. There is another charge against the 6 men named above. That they on the 10th of March in the 38th year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the third, King, Defender of the Faith and so Forth, did at Mount Neal, Carlow between Sunset of said day and Sunrise on the Day next following did Cut down take and Carry Away one Deal Tree, Value 5 shillings, One Ash Tree, Value 3 shillings and one Oak Tree, Value 10 shillings the goods of Francis Paul Stratford, Esquire, without his consent, he being the Owner thereof.

Thank you for posting this Hopkins information. Joan Hopkins British Columbia

Pat Purcell Papers. 1821. I Richard Langford, do swear, that I have planted or caused to be planted, within twelve calendar moths last past, on Lands of Knockdrumagh in the Parish of Myshall held by me from George Ross Keogh, Esquire, on the Estate of Earl of Bessborough, the following trees Viz: 4,000 Larch. 2,000 Ash. 2,000 Sycamore. 3,000 Beech. 1,000 Scotch Fir. 1,000 Elms. 1,000 Spruce Fir. and that I have given notice to the Agent of the Earl of Bessborough of my intention to register said Trees, Five months at the least previous to this day. Dated this 24th day of April 1821. (signed) Richard Langford. Sworn before me this 24th April 1821. (signed) John Cornwall

Brian Walsh has now completed the Dunleckney Parish Registers for 1848: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Baptism_Dunleckney_43.htm Excellent work Brian Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Submitted by Noel Walsh. 1837 ~ extracts from "*The Journal of Andrew Leary O’Brien*". Andrew Leary O'Brien was from County Cork, Ireland. According to Rev.Father Peader McSwayne's research notes Andrew Leary O'Brien applied for admittance to St. Patrick's Seminary, Carlow in 1834. ( The Journal of Andrew Leary O’Brien, Athens. GA University of Georgia Press 1946.) ( APRIL 11th 1837 ). On Tuesday morning April the eleventh, I engaged passage in a steamer to the City of Liverpool, for ten shillings Sterling. The boat was heavily laden with passengers, & fat cattle for England. It took us two days and two nights to get to Liverpool. It was the worst passage I have ever been on, the weather was a continued storm of heavy gales. We were obliged to keep below as long as we could stand it, but the stench from the cattle aboard caused all the passengers to get so very sea sick, I shall never forget the trip. >From Liverpool, we put to sea for America, and in twelve hours lost sight of England, and next saw sight of the Lovely Green Isle of Ireland. But Towards evening I felt I must get sea-sick, and before night I realized it. Being advised to bring some good Irish whiskey along as a preventative, I concluded I would try some, but on pouring out some I could not bear the smell, much less should I taste it. As I got worse and very sick, I concluded I must get my assent in taking some whiskey, and by powerful persuasion I took a mouthful of it, but to gain a world by the act I could not swallow it. After several determined attempts I succeeded in swallowing some. It made me worse. But this distressing state did not last long. I took a little more whiskey in about 3/4 of an hour and I felt like getting well and mended rapidly. I was never since sea sick and hope never will I be as sick as I was then. When at sea about a fortnight a young woman who appeared to be sick from the start, died and was thrown overboard, or as it is termed on sea, buried in the deep. This sight bore heavily on my feelings, especially as it was done with very little concern, for the death seemed to be scarcely noticed. A committee was appointed in each cabin to see the passengers kept themselves and everything else clean, under penalty of being deprived of their water allowance. On the morning of this death the Captain sent word that the Committee must bury the dead. It seemed the dead being not well attended too, smelled very disagreeable, so I consequently refused to go about the body, and as I did the five others refused. The Captain sent word back that we must bury her. Being fully the Irishman, independent, and wild in my notions of matters, I sent word back by the mate that he, the Captain, may bury her and be dammed. He concluded there was no use to try to bully us. He sent the first mate and three sailors and had the dead woman sewn up in a sheet, some rocks at her feet. All the Irish passengers knelt down and prayed earnestly for the dead, and when done, she was thrown over board, and there ended her case. ( JUNE 8th 1837 ). As we hove in sight of the shores of New Jersey our prospects buoyed to a high degree, all nature seemed to be in bloom, the white cottages on the Jersey shores, presenting themselves to our view. The sight was beyond description, majestic and grand to us who had never witnessed the like. On a nearer approach, however, we were somewhat disappointed in beholding such a vast and wild forest, and concluded that the country was somewhat savage. There were several aboard not well yet, and when we arrived at the place of quarantine would not be allowed ashore. Those that were well were put ashore and sent on by Jersey City on the railroad. ( JUNE 14th 1837 ) When I was ashore on the streets of New York I felt like a man too light to be acted upon by gravity. When I attempted to walk, I reeled as if drunk, and when I raised my foot I raised three times higher than necessary. I was a stranger to walking. (JUNE 28th, 1837) I got to a place called Muddy Creek, and here I hired to a contractor by name of Thomas English, as a stone Mason. Here I found several Irish from my Father's parish, with some of whom I was acquainted before I left home, and who were astonished to see me looking for employment on a canal in America. I got to work on some butments, the foundation of a bridge across a creek and in a week or two, the contractor acknowledged I was the best mason on the job, and did more work. I never before worked on a day at the mason work, but while a boy I saw a great deal of it done, and took great pride at excelling in this work, but I was not long here before my peace and enjoyment was much marred. I left and went out on the Croton water works near Harlem, and there hired with a contractor, a Mr. Francis Quinn. I remained here in the employment of a brick mason for some months, at two dollars per day, and here was the hardest work I ever saw a man at to be continued, building the tunnel for Croton water works, here was a foreman whom the others were obliged to follow, and lay as many brick in cement as he did and could lay three thousand brick per day for a stretch of a line sixty feet long, with cement and brick at hand at all places. We could scarcely straighten out our backs once in every hour. I braved the storm, and no mason on the job could tell I was a regular brick mason. I took from here eighty-five dollars.Bixby and here I worked at the brick laying again and now I was a pretty respectable and and independent brick layer, though necessity was my teacher without an apprenticeship ~~~~. *The following was published by Kerby Miller. University of Missouri-Columba.* The Journal of Andrew Leary O'Brien (Athens. GA University of Georgia Press 1946.) Andrew Leary O’Brien was born in Co. Cork in 1815, the son of a strong farmer who intended him to become a priest and thereby enhance the family’s spiritual and social status. In 1837, after years of expensive schooling in Ireland, O’Brien’s parents sent him to finished his clerical studies at Chambly Seminary in Quebec. O’Brien’s erotic shipboard dreams, recorded in his memoir, of beautiful and seductive blond-haired women, probably suggested his unsuitability for a celibate life, and so perhaps he was fortunate when the Canadian Rebellion of 1837 shut down the seminary and cast him adrift. O’Brien made his way south to Pennsylvania, where he found work as a stonemason in the building of the Susquehanna Canal. There, surrounded by hundreds of uncouth, illiterate, frequently drunken, and often violent Irish Catholic canal diggers, O’Brien discovered for the first time that, in his words, "I felt mean at the thought that I was an Irishman." Despite his father’s entreaties that he return to Ireland and resume his studies, O’Brien concluded to escape his former associates and, one suspects, his entire past. He took his earnings and sailed from New York to Charleston. For several years, he taught school in Bamwell District, South Carolina, where he married into a Methodist family whose church he joined after attending a camp meeting. In 1848 he moved to Cuthbert, Georgia, where in 1854 he founded what was then called Randolph--now Andrew--College. Today, very few of its faculty or graduates are aware that their College, still piously Methodist, was established by an Irish Catholic seminary student and canal worker who had concluded that acceptance and respectability in an overwhelmingly-Protestant Southern society were more important than the retention of his ethnic and religious heritage.

Pat Purcell Papers. 1832. Draft report from Matthew Singleton, Chief Magistrate of Police, Tollerton House, to Sir William Gosset, Chief Secretary for Ireland, Dublin Castle, Dublin. Whitefeet Outrage. 6th May 1832. Dear Sir, In consequence of having received information that an intended riot was to take place in the Town of Carlow on Friday last, it being a Fair Day in the town, I had two chief-constables and a strong party of police and military in attendance at Carlow Graigue. About four o'Clock in the afternoon I got an account that a party of evil disposed Whitefeet were then attacking Mr Thomas's house about three miles from here. I therefore lost not a moment in going to the Barracks in Carlow and called on Major Ryan who turned out a force of the 5th Dragoons, and Lieutenant Otway and a detachment of the 50th Regiment; proceeded to Mr Thomas's house and ascertained that six armed men with pistols had been there at 12 o'Clock noon. On information from Mr John Sherlock, Esquire, of Mountrock, who stated that the raiding party calling themselves Whitefeet had stopped him on the road and presented their pistols at him and demanded to know if he held any fire-arms, and tendered a prayer-book to him to swear on that he had not any fire-arms on him or at his house, after so swearing on the prayer-book the Whitefeet party then proceeded in the direction of Athy. Upon receiving this information the military and a party of constables from Ballickmoyler and Ballylinan proceeded at once on the various roads to Athy and in the town of Athy they succeeded in apprehending a suspicious fellow in a public-house and on searching him, found a prayer-book and some gun-powder wrapped in paper in his pockets. This man calls himself William Doody. Two men in his company were also apprehended. I had Mr Sherlock brought before the man called Doody and Mr Sherlock identified this man as the leader of the Whitefeet party who stopped him on the road and also identified the prayer-book as the book presented to him to swear on. I have committed the man called Doody to Carlow Gaol awaiting Trial. This man's arrest and committal to the Gaol in Carlow to await trial at the next Assizes must be of vital importance to the peace of the Country. I was obliged to pledge myself to Mr Sherlock that if he would identify any of the party of Whitefeet that held him up I would instantly place two constables at his home for his family's protection, and on his identifying Doody I sent two men to his house. I have much pleasure to add that I know of another of the Whitefeet raiding party and am sure he will be found. I have the police on search for him. The Magistrates of the County have spoken of the need to have more men appointed to the Constabulary force of the County of Carlow in order to put a stop to the terror and dread inflicted by the Whitefeet in the area and to preserve the public tranquillity in the County. The Magistrates desire that I would request you inform His Excellency, The Lord Lieutenant, of the urgent need to augment the present force in the County I have the honour to be your obedient servant, Matthew Singleton, Chief Magistrate of Police. Carlow and Queen's County.

Pat Purcell Papers. 1802. By Benjamin Bunbury, Esquire, one of his Majesties Justices of the Peace for Carlow. The Information of James Bartle, Sub Constable, Stationed at Rathvilly, Carlow, who being duly Sworn and Examined on the Holy Evangelist Desposith and Saith that on the fourth Day of March 1802 the Informant heard Owen Cloven of Rathvilly declare on the Publick Street situate in the town of Rathvilly in most reproachful language - he did not give a farth for the King or his bledly Crown or any / here uttering a Tremendous oath / Proclamation of the bledly King - whilst thus Shouting Loudly Owen Cloven was pulling at a Notice from the Gate of the Roman Catholick place of worship for the parish of Rathvilly on which was posted a Reward for Information Notice that would lead to the apprehension of a gang of notorious robbers at the time believed to be in hiding in the townland of Rathvilly and Baltinglass. James Bartle verily believes the the said Owen Cloven is a dangerous idle lunatick and should be further Examined by the Magistrates of the County as a Person uttering falsehoods and against the Peace of the Liege Subjects of his Majesty the King, and the Peace, Crown and Dignity of our Sovereign Lord, George, King, Defender of the Faith and so Forth, and James Bartle further Saith not. (signed) James Bartle. Sworn before me this 5th Day of March 1802. (signed) Benjamin Bunbury. Deponent is Bound in the Sum of £5 Sterling to Prosecute the aforesaid Owen Cloven at the next General Sessions of The Peace to be held at Carlow in the said County of Carlow and attend from Day to Day and from Sessions to Sessions until Discharged by the Court ~ Taken and Acknowledged before me at Rathvilly this 5th Day of March 1802.

Hello all, I came across this link for “Library Ireland” during my research and thought I’d pass it along...there’s quite a bit of really good information when you drill down into the site. Enjoy! http://www.libraryireland.com/

This is one for all of us who reach that Brick Wall in our research for our ancestors. Its a photo I found on Flicker of the fire of the Four Courts in 1922 http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Ch_records.htm Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

What a great opportunity to see the response this time. Thank you. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael purcell" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 2 June, 2012 12:54:34 PM Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1847,Exchange of Letters. *James Christie, Clyman, Wisconsin, to his wife, Elizabeth Reid Christie, New York City?, February 3, 1847.* [ Note added 2012 by Michael Purcell. The letters below were submitted by Noel Walsh they are an exchange of letters from James Christie to his wife Elizabeth with a reply from Elizabeth. In 1840 James came to Carlow at the request of the John Alexander of Milford Mills and Thomas Watson of Nurney to investigate the establishment of a Flax industry in Carlow. Circa 1842 James married Elizabeth Reed, they had six children. They left Ireland in 1846. James travelled to Clyman, Dodge County,Wisconsin to clear land and build a cabin for his family, leaving his wife and family to stay with her brother in Connecticut. Elizabeth died in childbirth in 1850 aged 32. James died in 1890 aged 79. The letters form part of the extensive Christie / Reid archive stored in the Minnesota Historical Society, 345 W.Kellogg Blvd. St. Paul, Minnesota, 55102-1906. The Christie letter's archive chronicles social, religious, economic, political and family life in the United States over three generations. It is intended that the Pack-Beresford and Creagh letters will be donated to the MHS. ] ** From, James Christie, Clyman Township, Wisconsin, to his wife Elizabeth Reid Christie, New York, 3rd February, 1847. My very Dear Elizabeth, I feel the utmost gratitude to God that you and the children are well. We will begin to put up our house in 10 days. We've drawn every log for it 3½ miles as our land contains no suitable trees. I build it in the most fertile part of the land, so that we may have a good garden at the door. I've been cutting down plum trees and wild vines but I've spared some so as you may see them. Providence seems to separate us that our Love may be purified. I have always told you, my Dear Elizabeth, that it was for the sake of our children that I would take upon me the toils of a settler's life, and how much easier will it be for me to die, knowing that they will be independent. We will each of us have 40 acres of good land, and my 40 will still be there when I am gone; not as when you die in Ireland, leaving your children a legacy of debt and the same eternal round of slavery which has been your own lot. We left with $310 and all that's left is 50. Out of that a cow and sow and pigs are to buy, and a plough, shingles and lumber for our house. We are hard up for cash -- but I enclose one dollar for you. You would have more if it were to spare. And have, My Dear Elizabeth, my blessing. God be about you and the Children, for you are my heart and they are the light of mine eyes. Your husband until death, James Christie. ** Extract of letter from Elizabeth Christie, Hartford, Connecticut, to her husband, James Christie, Clyman, Dodge County, Wisconsin, February 24th 1847, My Dear James, I received your kind and Welcomed letter of 3rd February. There is nothing in this world gives me so much happiness, My Dear Husband, as a letter from you. Thank God, little Sarah Jane is quite strong again. And Tom is a fine stout boy. None of his clothes fits him, he's grown so. Oh, Dear James, you speak about us coming to you in April. God grant us that. I received your one Dollar which I am very thankful for. I bought some shirts for Tom and the makings of some slips for Sarah. But I long to see you, dear James. The days are years till we be once again together. Oh, that that day has arrived, I think I would cry for joy. Your loving wife, Elizabeth Christie. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

*James Christie, Clyman, Wisconsin, to his wife, Elizabeth Reid Christie, New York City?, February 3, 1847.* [ Note added 2012 by Michael Purcell. The letters below were submitted by Noel Walsh they are an exchange of letters from James Christie to his wife Elizabeth with a reply from Elizabeth. In 1840 James came to Carlow at the request of the John Alexander of Milford Mills and Thomas Watson of Nurney to investigate the establishment of a Flax industry in Carlow. Circa 1842 James married Elizabeth Reed, they had six children. They left Ireland in 1846. James travelled to Clyman, Dodge County,Wisconsin to clear land and build a cabin for his family, leaving his wife and family to stay with her brother in Connecticut. Elizabeth died in childbirth in 1850 aged 32. James died in 1890 aged 79. The letters form part of the extensive Christie / Reid archive stored in the Minnesota Historical Society, 345 W.Kellogg Blvd. St. Paul, Minnesota, 55102-1906. The Christie letter's archive chronicles social, religious, economic, political and family life in the United States over three generations. It is intended that the Pack-Beresford and Creagh letters will be donated to the MHS. ] ** From, James Christie, Clyman Township, Wisconsin, to his wife Elizabeth Reid Christie, New York, 3rd February, 1847. My very Dear Elizabeth, I feel the utmost gratitude to God that you and the children are well. We will begin to put up our house in 10 days. We've drawn every log for it 3½ miles as our land contains no suitable trees. I build it in the most fertile part of the land, so that we may have a good garden at the door. I've been cutting down plum trees and wild vines but I've spared some so as you may see them. Providence seems to separate us that our Love may be purified. I have always told you, my Dear Elizabeth, that it was for the sake of our children that I would take upon me the toils of a settler's life, and how much easier will it be for me to die, knowing that they will be independent. We will each of us have 40 acres of good land, and my 40 will still be there when I am gone; not as when you die in Ireland, leaving your children a legacy of debt and the same eternal round of slavery which has been your own lot. We left with $310 and all that's left is 50. Out of that a cow and sow and pigs are to buy, and a plough, shingles and lumber for our house. We are hard up for cash -- but I enclose one dollar for you. You would have more if it were to spare. And have, My Dear Elizabeth, my blessing. God be about you and the Children, for you are my heart and they are the light of mine eyes. Your husband until death, James Christie. ** Extract of letter from Elizabeth Christie, Hartford, Connecticut, to her husband, James Christie, Clyman, Dodge County, Wisconsin, February 24th 1847, My Dear James, I received your kind and Welcomed letter of 3rd February. There is nothing in this world gives me so much happiness, My Dear Husband, as a letter from you. Thank God, little Sarah Jane is quite strong again. And Tom is a fine stout boy. None of his clothes fits him, he's grown so. Oh, Dear James, you speak about us coming to you in April. God grant us that. I received your one Dollar which I am very thankful for. I bought some shirts for Tom and the makings of some slips for Sarah. But I long to see you, dear James. The days are years till we be once again together. Oh, that that day has arrived, I think I would cry for joy. Your loving wife, Elizabeth Christie.

Newgarden Cemetery, Carlow, Ireland<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Newgarden_Cemetery.htm> www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Newgarden_Cemetery.htmCached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lDDNuire1lcJ:www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Newgarden_Cemetery.htm+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie> - Similar<https://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&biw=1024&bih=571&q=related:www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Newgarden_Cemetery.htm+to+clean+up+the+old+mans+bed%2Bbryce+peterson&tbo=1&sa=X&ei=kwzJT9KJA4qnhAfo_YntDw&sqi=2&ved=0CCMQHzAC> You +1'd this publicly. Undo <https://www.google.ie/#> By *Bryce Petersen* Jr. *...* "*To clean up the old man's bed*, it's good to first get your name in the paper" *...* The man at the corner market had never heard of it. On 1 June 2012 19:35, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > New Gardens is on the road to Athy from Carlow. There was a Quaker Meeting > House established in the area. Today the area contains a Quaker Burial Plot > referred to by Bryce Peterson in his article on the Carlow IGP - " To clean > up the Old Man's bed". > Quakers from the New Gardens area settled in Philadelphia, USA and renamed > the townland "New Gardens" it's called so up to present day. > On 1 June 2012 19:23, Roger Nowlan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I would just like to pass on an observation. >> >> Below in the testimony of Thebius UNTHANK in November 1797, we find >> evidence of what is believed to have been activity by United Irishmen in >> the area of Moanmore and Ballybrommell (where "Farmer Clowry" of 1798 fame >> lived). >> >> The Quaker meeting house was on the neighbouring townland of Kilconnor >> owned by the Watson family and "New Gardens"(presumably the present-day >> "God`s Acre" Quaker graveyard found in the northern part of the >> Ballybrommell townland). >> >> Bye for now, >> Roger >> http://nolanfamilies.org >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: michael purcell >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:36 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Unthank family+Carlow. >> >> *Re. Letter from George Unthank living in New York 1831.* >> >> *The Unthank family were associated with the Society of Friends ( Quakers >> ). >> Abel Unthank is recorded in the Pat Purcell Papers living in Carlow in >> 1797. >> Thebious [ ? ] Unthank witnessed the purchase of land in Fenagh by Samuel >> Watson in 1656. >> Unthank had come to Ireland under the command of Robert Browne as a >> soldier >> in Cromwell's Army, some of the soldiers were granted land in Ireland in >> lieu of pay. >> Samuel Watson and two of his brothers bought some of the "granted land" >> from soldiers who wished to return to England as did Robert Browne also >> bought land from the soldiers and he later settled in the Pollerton area, >> renaming the acquired land "Brownes Hill". >> Browne also purchased property in Tullow Street, Cuckoo Lane ( now Browne >> Street ) in Carlow town and land in Graigue ( now Graiguecullen ) and >> Sleaty. >> The Unthanks became involved with the Watson family of Kilconnor, Carlow, >> in the Milling business and farming interests. I think they are also >> recorded as witnesses to some Watson marriages. >> In the Pat Purcell Papers it is recorded that Abel Unthank gave a >> declaration before Benjamin Bunbury on 24th November, 1797, with Unthank >> refusing to swear on the Holy Evangelists because he was a >> "member of the Sect commonly called Quakers", but he "Declared" >> information >> regarding- >> "persons not having the love and fear of God before their eyes assembling >> nightly in a Evil and riotous manner in the vicinity of New Gardens, >> Carlow, which Informant truly believes and Declares to be a Party of >> Rebels >> under the influence of France in readiness for War against the Crown and >> Dignity of his Sovereign Lord George, King, Defender of the Faith and so >> forth and His Majesties Forces in His Kingdom of Ireland" -. >> Bunbury noted that despite the fact that Unthank was reluctant to swear >> under Oath his "examination should be presented as a true Testament before >> the Magistrates sitting in Carlow.". >> The Carlow family later established a branch in Ballyfin, Queen's County. >> There is a record of Samuel and Mathilda Unthank buried in the Burial >> ground in Oak Park. >> The following is extracted from - >> "The Onthank Family: >> Its History and Genealogy" by Arthur Heath Onthank. >> The Origin of the Unthank or Onthank Family in Ireland is obscure. the >> only reliable explanation thus far has come from Herbert William Unthank, >> of Exeter, England. >> Mr. Unthank, a University Lecturer at the University of Exeter, came from >> the Limerick branch of the Unthank family in Ireland, and has his family >> genealogy among the Irish Unthanks accurately recorded for seven >> generations past. >> He believed that the earliest Unthank to settle in Ireland was one of the >> soldiers of Oliver Cromwell, who invaded Ireland in 1650, and subsequently >> settled many of his soldiers, and others from England, on land in Ireland. >> Herbert William Unthank's forebears were Quakers and they settled in and >> near Limerick, Ireland. >> A branch of the Onthank's from Ballyfin Queens County, Ireland immigrated >> to in or around the Baltimore, Maryland area around 1850 until 1890. They >> then moved to Cheyenne, Wyoming and Later Pocatello, Idaho. Further spread >> includes Butte, Montana, Spokane Washington, Portland Oregon along with >> possibly California* >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

New Gardens is on the road to Athy from Carlow. There was a Quaker Meeting House established in the area. Today the area contains a Quaker Burial Plot referred to by Bryce Peterson in his article on the Carlow IGP - " To clean up the Old Man's bed". Quakers from the New Gardens area settled in Philadelphia, USA and renamed the townland "New Gardens" it's called so up to present day. On 1 June 2012 19:23, Roger Nowlan <[email protected]> wrote: > Greetings, > > I would just like to pass on an observation. > > Below in the testimony of Thebius UNTHANK in November 1797, we find > evidence of what is believed to have been activity by United Irishmen in > the area of Moanmore and Ballybrommell (where "Farmer Clowry" of 1798 fame > lived). > > The Quaker meeting house was on the neighbouring townland of Kilconnor > owned by the Watson family and "New Gardens"(presumably the present-day > "God`s Acre" Quaker graveyard found in the northern part of the > Ballybrommell townland). > > Bye for now, > Roger > http://nolanfamilies.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: michael purcell > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Unthank family+Carlow. > > *Re. Letter from George Unthank living in New York 1831.* > > *The Unthank family were associated with the Society of Friends ( Quakers > ). > Abel Unthank is recorded in the Pat Purcell Papers living in Carlow in > 1797. > Thebious [ ? ] Unthank witnessed the purchase of land in Fenagh by Samuel > Watson in 1656. > Unthank had come to Ireland under the command of Robert Browne as a soldier > in Cromwell's Army, some of the soldiers were granted land in Ireland in > lieu of pay. > Samuel Watson and two of his brothers bought some of the "granted land" > from soldiers who wished to return to England as did Robert Browne also > bought land from the soldiers and he later settled in the Pollerton area, > renaming the acquired land "Brownes Hill". > Browne also purchased property in Tullow Street, Cuckoo Lane ( now Browne > Street ) in Carlow town and land in Graigue ( now Graiguecullen ) and > Sleaty. > The Unthanks became involved with the Watson family of Kilconnor, Carlow, > in the Milling business and farming interests. I think they are also > recorded as witnesses to some Watson marriages. > In the Pat Purcell Papers it is recorded that Abel Unthank gave a > declaration before Benjamin Bunbury on 24th November, 1797, with Unthank > refusing to swear on the Holy Evangelists because he was a > "member of the Sect commonly called Quakers", but he "Declared" information > regarding- > "persons not having the love and fear of God before their eyes assembling > nightly in a Evil and riotous manner in the vicinity of New Gardens, > Carlow, which Informant truly believes and Declares to be a Party of Rebels > under the influence of France in readiness for War against the Crown and > Dignity of his Sovereign Lord George, King, Defender of the Faith and so > forth and His Majesties Forces in His Kingdom of Ireland" -. > Bunbury noted that despite the fact that Unthank was reluctant to swear > under Oath his "examination should be presented as a true Testament before > the Magistrates sitting in Carlow.". > The Carlow family later established a branch in Ballyfin, Queen's County. > There is a record of Samuel and Mathilda Unthank buried in the Burial > ground in Oak Park. > The following is extracted from - > "The Onthank Family: > Its History and Genealogy" by Arthur Heath Onthank. > The Origin of the Unthank or Onthank Family in Ireland is obscure. the > only reliable explanation thus far has come from Herbert William Unthank, > of Exeter, England. > Mr. Unthank, a University Lecturer at the University of Exeter, came from > the Limerick branch of the Unthank family in Ireland, and has his family > genealogy among the Irish Unthanks accurately recorded for seven > generations past. > He believed that the earliest Unthank to settle in Ireland was one of the > soldiers of Oliver Cromwell, who invaded Ireland in 1650, and subsequently > settled many of his soldiers, and others from England, on land in Ireland. > Herbert William Unthank's forebears were Quakers and they settled in and > near Limerick, Ireland. > A branch of the Onthank's from Ballyfin Queens County, Ireland immigrated > to in or around the Baltimore, Maryland area around 1850 until 1890. They > then moved to Cheyenne, Wyoming and Later Pocatello, Idaho. Further spread > includes Butte, Montana, Spokane Washington, Portland Oregon along with > possibly California* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >