Indexed under : Jurors, Militia, Gentlemen Freeholders. On 20 August 2012 17:36, michael purcell <[email protected]> wrote: > Extracts from index to PPP complied in 1950s. > Have not seen the documents referred to. > Thomas Lomax, Blacksmith, Age 26, Address, Shean, Carlow. Circa. 1810. > Henry Lonex, Shean, Circa 1810. > John Lonnox, Shean, Circa 1810. > Thomas Lonnox, Roslee, Ullard, Carlow. Circa 1810. > Leonard Warren, Debtor, Carlow Gaol, 1810. > Philip Bowels, Slyguff, Idrone East, Freeholder, 1857. > >

Extracts from index to PPP complied in 1950s. Have not seen the documents referred to. Thomas Lomax, Blacksmith, Age 26, Address, Shean, Carlow. Circa. 1810. Henry Lonex, Shean, Circa 1810. John Lonnox, Shean, Circa 1810. Thomas Lonnox, Roslee, Ullard, Carlow. Circa 1810. Leonard Warren, Debtor, Carlow Gaol, 1810. Philip Bowels, Slyguff, Idrone East, Freeholder, 1857.

Thank you very much for this, Brian.  The Lummaxes in Canada are indeed recorded as Protestant, but I think at that time with the way Catholics were treated it was not unheard of to have people 'change' religion, and it's interesting that the same  Christian names are coming up ie John and Thomas and Mary.  My ancestor called his children John, Mary Ann and Elizabeth, (his wife was called variously Maria and Ann) and there is a Thomas, Johns and Ann among the Canadian Lummaxes.  I don't think the different spelling is important as on the Canadian shipping list the name is spelt as Lummocks.  I shall try again to see if I can get access to the Fenagh Protestant church records...   Regards,   Hilary From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012, 8:00 Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 7, Issue 382 When replying to a message please don't forget to delete all messages not related to your message & change the subject box. Today's Topics:   1. Re: Lummax (Brian Walsh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 05:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Walsh <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Lummax To: [email protected] Message-ID:     <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 7 April, 1839, Thomas Lummocks, John Lummocks and Ellen Bryan,sponsors are James Bryan and Ann Gaskin, townland Clonatoose (Fenagh); 26 September, 1841, Michael Lummocks, John and Ellen Brien, sponsors are Thomas Lummocks and Margaret Doyle townland is Fenagh; 3 March 1844, Mary Lummocks, John and Ellen Bryan, sponsors are John and Julia Murphy.????? These three baptisms were extracted from the Dunleckney Parish Registers which I have been transposing for some time. They are Catholic Baptisms. Part of Fenagh was in Dunleckney Parish. Despite the spellimg of then name they could be related. I suppose your Lummaxs' may be protestant too, but I thought you would find this family of interest. Thanks, Brian --- On Sat, 8/18/12, Hilary Davidson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Hilary Davidson <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Lummax To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 18, 2012, 4:43 AM Still looking for any information on the Lummax family. On a visit to Ireland last week saw the grave earlier mentioned of Anne and John Lummax in Fenagh graveyard from 1788. We know 2 John Lummaxes (one with family) emigrated to Canada on the Maria in 1819 and were iven land in Beckwith, Lanark County, Ontario. And also a William Lummax was given land near there later - possibly a brother to John. My ancestor Henry enlisted in he 4th lLight Dragons which were based in Carlow, on 31 Jul 1815, and Ihave seen reference in a? court case to a place referred to as Lummax,s Cross near Carlow, but can find no other records of any mention of the Lummaxes..? Does anyone have access to he church records of Fenagh as have been unable to contact the minister here? Grateful for any information, Hilary Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 7, Issue 382 ******************************************

7 April, 1839, Thomas Lummocks, John Lummocks and Ellen Bryan,sponsors are James Bryan and Ann Gaskin, townland Clonatoose (Fenagh); 26 September, 1841, Michael Lummocks, John and Ellen Brien, sponsors are Thomas Lummocks and Margaret Doyle townland is Fenagh; 3 March 1844, Mary Lummocks, John and Ellen Bryan, sponsors are John and Julia Murphy.      These three baptisms were extracted from the Dunleckney Parish Registers which I have been transposing for some time. They are Catholic Baptisms. Part of Fenagh was in Dunleckney Parish. Despite the spellimg of then name they could be related. I suppose your Lummaxs' may be protestant too, but I thought you would find this family of interest. Thanks, Brian --- On Sat, 8/18/12, Hilary Davidson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Hilary Davidson <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Lummax To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, August 18, 2012, 4:43 AM Still looking for any information on the Lummax family. On a visit to Ireland last week saw the grave earlier mentioned of Anne and John Lummax in Fenagh graveyard from 1788. We know 2 John Lummaxes (one with family) emigrated to Canada on the Maria in 1819 and were iven land in Beckwith, Lanark County, Ontario. And also a William Lummax was given land near there later - possibly a brother to John. My ancestor Henry enlisted in he 4th lLight Dragons which were based in Carlow, on 31 Jul 1815, and Ihave seen reference in a  court case to a place referred to as Lummax,s Cross near Carlow, but can find no other records of any mention of the Lummaxes..  Does anyone have access to he church records of Fenagh as have been unable to contact the minister here? Grateful for any information, Hilary Sent from my iPad ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here are some great images of Ballinabranna sporting teams from the 1920's, 50's and 80's Source of images from Myles Kavanagh Ballinabranna (Baile na mBrannach) "A Centenzry Celebration 1890-1990. My thanks to Myles Kavanagh for allowing me to reproduce this material. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Ballinabranna_Sport.htm Regards Michael Brennan http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Still looking for any information on the Lummax family. On a visit to Ireland last week saw the grave earlier mentioned of Anne and John Lummax in Fenagh graveyard from 1788. We know 2 John Lummaxes (one with family) emigrated to Canada on the Maria in 1819 and were iven land in Beckwith, Lanark County, Ontario. And also a William Lummax was given land near there later - possibly a brother to John. My ancestor Henry enlisted in he 4th lLight Dragons which were based in Carlow, on 31 Jul 1815, and Ihave seen reference in a court case to a place referred to as Lummax,s Cross near Carlow, but can find no other records of any mention of the Lummaxes.. Does anyone have access to he church records of Fenagh as have been unable to contact the minister here? Grateful for any information, Hilary Sent from my iPad

Pat Purcell Papers. 1814. Transcribed by Selina Lawlor The Information of Margaret Keys, widow, of Graigue in the Queens County who being duly sworn saith that on Wednesday the ninth November, about three of the clock in the afternoon, of said day while she said informant in the Newmarket in Carlow selling herrings was most violently assaulted by Anne Timmons and her daughter Bridget Timmons that they both pulled dragged and cut said informant in the left arm and uttered a most odious language as whore thief and leather stealer to expose and scandalise said informant in full hearing of a publick market. And also that Elland Timmons and Mary Timmons to gratify their mother the above Anne Timmons spit several times in said informants face. And likewise that said informant saith that Bridget Timmons, Elland Timmons and Mary Timmons when said informants daughter coming from school continually meet and abuse her. (signed) Margaret, X, her mark, Keys. Sworn before me this 11th day of November 1814. (signed) J. S. Rochfort.

Pat Purcell Papers. 1822. Transcribed by Selina Lawlor By William Fishbourne, Esquire one of His Majesty’s Justice of the peace for said County The information of Mary White wife of Denis White of Pollerton Road near Carlow, County Carlow, Stone Cutter, who being duly sworn on the Holy Evangelists and examined saith that on the morning of Saturday the 2nd day of November 1822, Mary White, having been sent for by her sister who being ill in childbed and as Mary White stood by the bedside of her sister. She was then and there most violently and wantingly assaulted by her sister’s husband’s brother, Michael Meara of Staplestown Road, Cooper, who dragged and mauled Mary White pushed her down on the bed of his sick sister, called her Strumpet and other disgraceful names, threatened her and forcibly pushed and dragged her out to the street and threw out her cloak after her by which Mary White is injured and scandalized. (Signed) Mary White. Sworn before me on this the 2nd day of November 1822. (Signed) William Fishbourne.

Mary: Your Byrne ancestors in Myshall parish would probably have been married in the church or the Drumphea chapel (closer to home). I will look up Byrne marriages for you in the Myshall parish register. Tom Reed New Castle, DE USA --------------------------------------- Original E-mail >From : Mary [[email protected]] Date : 08/16/2012 06:02 AM To : [email protected] Subject : [IRL-CARLOW] seeking help Hello, Your e-mail address has been given to me by Turtle Bunbury - he thinks you may be able to help me . In doing my family history I have established that my great grandmother came from Rathvilly Co. Carlow. I have this information from the 1901 census. Her maiden name was Catherine Byrne and she became the wife of my great grandfather, Joseph Dunne. He was a school teacher in Aughnahila and died in 1876 at the age of 47. In 1901 census she was a widow, a retired teacher, living with her unmarried daughter Annie in Aughnahily, Kilcolmanbane, Co. Laois. Catherine died in 1905, in Aughnahila but again, cemetery records are not good but I presume she is buried in the Heath with Joseph. Joseph and Catherine had 6 (or 7 ) children namely: 1853 - Annie born Rathvilly Co. Wicklow(?) - as per 1901 census. 1856 - Mary born Portlaoise Co. Laois 1858 - John born Portlaoise 1861 - Joseph born Portlaoise 1864 - Michael born Portlaoise (my grandfather) 1866 - Thomas born Portlaoise 1870 - Gregory born Portlaoise In my search in the National Library archives of Rathvilly I also found a Catherine born 1853 but I have been unable to establish if Annie and Catherine were twins or if that child was Catherine Anne (known as Annie). Annie lived to old age, with her brother Joseph and family in Kildare town. I have found a Catherine Byrne born 1825 in Rathvilly to Gregory Byrne and Catherine Hanrick. I cannot prove that these are Catherine's parents but with the unusual name Gregory I am taking a leap of faith assuming they are the correct family and that I have the right Catherine Byrne. My problem is this: I cannot find any marriage certificate for Joseph Dunne and Catherine Byrne. As their first child was born in Rathvilly (but I have noted the different counties on the 1901 census) it would appear natural that they were living there and perhaps married there. Then again I wonder did they meet there as teachers but I also have no idea where Joseph came from. We also assumed the Dunnes were from Laois but I have done a lot of research into the Laois archives, with no success in finding a Joseph born c 1830. Would he have been from Rathvilly? As there are no Carlow records on-line I have been unable to research this. Turtle suggested I give you all the details I have and that you may be able to help me with a marriage certificate for Joseph and Catherine. That would confirm her father's name and his father's name for me - then perhaps I would have more success in tracing Joseph's line - if you cannot help with a birth/baptismal certificate. I would appreciate any help you can give me and I would be quite happy to travel to Rathvilly/Carlow or wherever the records are available to be accessed. I find trying to read the films in the National Library very difficult. Thanking you in advance, Mary Wall [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 7, Issue 378in the 1830s > Can anyone tell me when William Fishbourne (b. 1768) set up/took over the > first regular public coach line from Carlow, and how far it went? I know > Bianconi started the whole idea off in 1815 and I have a Carlow directory > reference to Bianconi-Fishbourne's coach line in the 1830s but nothing > earlier. Thank you Kaye Cole >

Hello, Your e-mail address has been given to me by Turtle Bunbury - he thinks you may be able to help me . In doing my family history I have established that my great grandmother came from Rathvilly Co. Carlow. I have this information from the 1901 census. Her maiden name was Catherine Byrne and she became the wife of my great grandfather, Joseph Dunne. He was a school teacher in Aughnahila and died in 1876 at the age of 47. In 1901 census she was a widow, a retired teacher, living with her unmarried daughter Annie in Aughnahily, Kilcolmanbane, Co. Laois. Catherine died in 1905, in Aughnahila but again, cemetery records are not good but I presume she is buried in the Heath with Joseph. Joseph and Catherine had 6 (or 7 ) children namely: 1853 - Annie born Rathvilly Co. Wicklow(?) - as per 1901 census. 1856 - Mary born Portlaoise Co. Laois 1858 - John born Portlaoise 1861 - Joseph born Portlaoise 1864 - Michael born Portlaoise (my grandfather) 1866 - Thomas born Portlaoise 1870 - Gregory born Portlaoise In my search in the National Library archives of Rathvilly I also found a Catherine born 1853 but I have been unable to establish if Annie and Catherine were twins or if that child was Catherine Anne (known as Annie). Annie lived to old age, with her brother Joseph and family in Kildare town. I have found a Catherine Byrne born 1825 in Rathvilly to Gregory Byrne and Catherine Hanrick. I cannot prove that these are Catherine's parents but with the unusual name Gregory I am taking a leap of faith assuming they are the correct family and that I have the right Catherine Byrne. My problem is this: I cannot find any marriage certificate for Joseph Dunne and Catherine Byrne. As their first child was born in Rathvilly (but I have noted the different counties on the 1901 census) it would appear natural that they were living there and perhaps married there. Then again I wonder did they meet there as teachers but I also have no idea where Joseph came from. We also assumed the Dunnes were from Laois but I have done a lot of research into the Laois archives, with no success in finding a Joseph born c 1830. Would he have been from Rathvilly? As there are no Carlow records on-line I have been unable to research this. Turtle suggested I give you all the details I have and that you may be able to help me with a marriage certificate for Joseph and Catherine. That would confirm her father's name and his father's name for me - then perhaps I would have more success in tracing Joseph's line - if you cannot help with a birth/baptismal certificate. I would appreciate any help you can give me and I would be quite happy to travel to Rathvilly/Carlow or wherever the records are available to be accessed. I find trying to read the films in the National Library very difficult. Thanking you in advance, Mary Wall [email protected]

Hi Folks, Hoping someone might know something about this family. Thomas Walsh s/o Michael married Anne TODD d/o Richard.Married 5th Oct 1867 (Borris/Ballinkillen or Bagenalstown) Children:Michael, August 1868 BorrisMary Anne, June 1870William, Oct 1872James, Nov 1876 Clowater Treacy

Debbie, thank you ever so much for posting that. Reading over the issue that covers Antrim, where I also have family through Mom's side, provided a very pleasant distraction from online job hunting. >I have not been active on the list in awhile, but just saw this and had to post it. I hope County Carlow shows up soon! >http://www.irishlivesremembered.com/magazine.html >Debbie

The new military archives which are now online are fascinating. There are so many stories relating to Carlow. www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie Try cross checking name places, family names and incidents. Thousands of statements are now available to read. Statements are across the board, from pro treaty to anti treaty, 1913 through World War One, 1916, War of Independence, and the Civil War. Well worth checking out.

I have not been active on the list in awhile, but just saw this and had to post it. I hope County Carlow shows up soon! http://www.irishlivesremembered.com/magazine.html Debbie

Carlow Then & Now By Alec Burns This is another interesting look back at the traders who operated in Carlow town in 1989 and before; very interesting! http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Then_&_Now.htm Previously published in Carloviana 1989/90 No. 37. Page 24. Regards Michael Brennan http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

We have added some new material to the Carlow Railway section for our Railway enthusiast which I found in the 1989/90 Carloviana. The new page is entitled "Railways and County Carlow" Compiled by William Ellis and appeared in the Carloviana 1989/90 No. 37. Page 18-22: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Railways_Carlow.htm There was also a mention of a Richard Newman who had a fatal accident on the railway during a snow storm but it doesn't mention where this man is from: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Richard_Newman.htm Regards Michael Brennan http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

EDMOND BRINE* of Ballycapell in the County of Wicklow Esqr. died the 26th of March 1624 He married Ellen daughter of Fardarough Gormogan of the Grangeforth in the County of Catherlough, by whom he had issue, James, Turlagh, Morgan, Christopher, Walter, Garret, Margarett, Dorothy, Mary, Ellis, Joan, and Ann. He was Buried in Old Laughlin in the County of Catherlagh the Last of March 1624. (Catherlagh is now Carlow) Source: Charles T. Lamacraft, Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland, 1910 --------- Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

Then & Now By Alec Burns which appeared in the Carloviana 1989/90 No. 37. Page 24. This is an excellent description of the Traders who were trading in Carlow Town unfortunately for me is that there are no dates mentioned when the businesses changed hands. We know the Now was in the 1980's. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Then_&_Now.htm Regards Michael Brennan http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Transcribed by Selina Lawlor. Pat Purcell Papers. Carlow Sentinel. Report of case tried at Petty Sessions in Carlow Courthouse, October 1846, before Mr Duckett, Resident Magistrate. A DELICATE INVESTIGATION. Betty Murphy, a woman far advanced in years, summoned Bridget Bigley for the committal of a serious assault on Friday last, by which she suffered serious injury. Betty Murphy stated that the assault was entirely unprovoked, Bridget Bigley having unexpectedly attacked her in the public streets. Addressing the Court, Mrs Bigley (a comely looking woman) - Your worships I suppose I will be heard. I found that woman in the house with my husband, and I trashed her (laughter). - She is a terrible character. Mr Burgess stated - In this case - a serious one (laughter) - I am engaged by the defendant, who claims that she is the aggrieved party. Mrs Begley - "I'll tell your worships the case. Betty Murphy has taken up with my husband. I watched her, and I saw her taking my place in the bed with him (roars of laughter). Betty Murphy was cross-examined by Mr Burgess. I am not a married woman now; I was married, but my husband is dead. Mr Burgess was about to proceed to put other questions, when the Judge stated that the witness need not answer if she thought proper. Mrs Bigley - Is there no justice for married women (laughter). There's a woman who has deluded no less, your worship (addressing the Judge), than six men (great laughter). It's the truth, and the bishop and clergy can vouch for it; for her conduct has been brought under their notice. Is that woman to take my place, and to delude my husband? (laughter). Mr Duckett - It is a very delicate question (laughter). Mr Burgess - Well, I will put an end to the discussion by calling on the husband; then you will perceive whether Mrs Bigley was the aggrieved party. True, she committed the assault, but she got great provocation (laughter). Mrs Bigley - "True for you, I did; but that woman (pointing to Betty Murphy) must be taught a lesson" (great laughter). Richard Bigley was then called, and, as the subject of the dispute, it is necessary to observe, that he was anything but a personification of an ADONIS; his appearance in the witness box to settle the dispute between the ladies excited great laughter. On being sworn, he was examined by Mr Burgess. Mr Burgess - Now, as an honest man, I ask you, on your oath, so far as regards Betty Murphy, had your wife any cause to be jealous of you? The witness hesitated. Mr Burgess-Tell the truth, man. Witness - Well, if I must, I will. I think she had (roars of laughter). Mr Duckett - I think the case is of too delicate a nature to inquire further (laughter). The Bench dismissed the case. Mrs Bigley - I thank your worship for your proper decision (laughter). Betty Murphy, on retiring from the court, was followed by a crowd, principally of women, and hooted through the town, and but for the constabulary she would be roughly handled by the fair sex, who took a deep interest in the injuries inflicted by Mrs Bigley.