Hi Michelle   Back in 1900 Carlow houses didn't have door numbers, the first street to do so was called "The Numbers". So when the census was conducted it depended on with end of the street they started, both 15 and 55 could be the same house.   all the best Terry ________________________________ From: Michelle Wilson <[email protected]> To: Ireland-carlow <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 27 August 2012, 1:21 Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Burren Street My great Aunt Annie Glover and family  is listed in 1901 census as residing at 55 Burren Street and in 1911 at 15 Burren Street.  Is there a 55 Burren Street or could this be a misprint.  The 15 Burren Street comes up several times after 1911.  Would either of those houses still be standing and if so is there any way I could get a picture of them? Thanks Michelle W. Vermont USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I often use Google Earth to research Streets and places. I would recommend this as a means of research when looking for a specific location or property Regards Tony

That would be terrific Mick, Jack will much appreciate it. And yes, Paul Gorry is very good. TB On 26 Aug 2012, at 09:14, michael purcell wrote: > Turtle I will send Jack some Purvis information in the post. > Depending on > his level of interest he might also contact Paul Gorry, one of the > most > helpful and highly regarded family history researchers operating in > Ireland > today. > For readers who may be interested here is some information on Paul > Gorry : > Paul Gorry, F.S.G., F.I.G.R.S., M.A.P.G.I. > > Gorry Research, > > 84 Ardglass, > > Baltinglass, > > Co. Wicklow, > > Ireland. > > E Mail: [email protected] > > *Areas of research: *All of Ireland > > *Special interests:* Cos. Wicklow, Carlow & Kildare; Registry of Deeds > > Paul Gorry has had a lifelong interest in local and family history, > dabbling in both by the age of ten. As a teenager he joined the > Kildare > Archaeological Society, and in 1980 he was a founder of the West > Wicklow > Historical Society, of which he served as Chairman in 1980-1981. He > has > been engaged in genealogical research on a professional basis since > 1979. > Paul began his career as a freelance researcher for the Genealogical > Office > (GO). In 1980, with his colleagues on the GO's research panel he was a > founder of Hibernian Research, the first independent Irish > genealogical > company. Since 1987 he has been trading entirely through the firm of > Gorry > Research. > > Paul has been a member of the Irish Genealogical Research Society > (IGRS) > since 1980 and of the Society of Genealogists [London] since 1987. > When the > Ireland Branch of the IGRS was established in 1986 he was elected to > its > committee. He served on that committee in 1986-1989 and 1997-1998. > He was a > founder member of APGI, was its Hon. Secretary in 1988-1991, and > became its > President in 2007. In 1989 he brought together a group of > individuals to > organise an international conference on Irish genealogy. This group > staged > the 1st Irish Genealogical Congress (IGC) in 1991. It was followed > by three > further IGCs, held in 1994, 1997 and 2001. Paul was Chairman of the > IGC > from its inception to 2002. He helped found the Council of Irish > Genealogical Organisations (CIGO), and in 1995/1996 he also served > as its > Chairman. In 2005 he was appointed to the National Library of Ireland > Committee on Genealogy and Heraldry. > > Paul Gorry has written extensively on genealogical and local history > topics. He has been a frequent contributor to *Family Tree* and > *Irish Roots > * magazines over the years. He has also published articles on Irish > golf > history. With his APGI colleague, Máire Mac Conghail, he was joint- > author > of the book *Tracing Irish Ancestors*, (HarperCollins, Glasgow, > 1997). He > also wrote *Baltinglass Golf Club, 1928-2003*, published in 2003, and > *Baltinglass > Chronicles, 1851-2001*, published in 2006. > > Paul has considerable experience in teaching and lecturing on > genealogy. He > is joint co-ordinator of the Diploma in Family History course at > Independent Colleges, Dublin, run in conjunction with APGI. As well as > speaking at various events and venues in Ireland and England, Paul has > lectured at conferences in Jacksonville, Long Island, Cleveland, > Boston and > Detroit in the U.S.A., and in Hervey Bay in Australia. > > In June 1999 he was elected a Fellow of the Society of Genealogists. > In > September 2005 he was awarded the Fellowship of the IGRS. > > > > On 22 August 2012 10:55, Turtle Bunbury <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I also met a charming gentleman last night called Jack Stratton who >> is >> seeking information about the Purvis / Pervis / Perviz family who >> lived at >> Ballycrogue, Co. Carlow. if anyone has further clues, you can >> either email >> me or write directly to Jack c/o Rockdale, Kilmeany, Carlow. >> >> Cheerio for now, >> >> Turtle >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Some of you may not be aware of the following website which I find absolutely fascinating. The Delany Archive cares for the archival collections of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Kildare & Leighlin, the Patrician Brothers, Brigidine Sisters and Carlow College. The rationale for the bringing together of these collections in the Delany Archive was the involvement with each of Dr Daniel Delany (1747-1814). He served as Bishop of Kildare & Leighlin during the period 1787-1814. The Delany Archive is located at Carlow College (St Patrick’s). We are open to researchers. Please Contact us to make an appointment to visit. I believe Michael Purcell mentioned this collection to the List some months back. It is full of very important images and some have a good bit of information such as peoples names attached to the photos. The photos relate to St Patricks College Carlow & Knockbeg College but there is also images for Co Kildare and Co Laois. The website link for Carlow is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/delanyarchive/sets/72157629770406804/ Regards Michael Brennan http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

My great Aunt Annie Glover and family is listed in 1901 census as residing at 55 Burren Street and in 1911 at 15 Burren Street. Is there a 55 Burren Street or could this be a misprint. The 15 Burren Street comes up several times after 1911. Would either of those houses still be standing and if so is there any way I could get a picture of them? Thanks Michelle W. Vermont USA

Greetings to All! It has been some time since my last posting. Just came back from a trip to New Brunswick. Looking through my files I recognize who were the Charles and Patrick Nowlan mentioned in the transcription below (re: ejectment of Charles Nowlan, etc.). Because of the signature first name Charles, they appear to have been descendants of the Ballykealey Nolans of the 1600s. Charles never married but his brother Patrick, the one with the pitchfork, lived on the nearby townland of Clonegath. (see http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Clonegah,+Carlow,+Ireland&hl=en&ll=52.719554,-6.863537&spn=0.027866,0.053387&sll=45.250157,-75.800257&sspn=0.518216,0.455933&oq=Clonegah,+carlow,+ireland&hnear=Clonegah,+County+Carlow,+Ireland&t=m&z=14 for map of the area discussed in the transcription and in what I present below; this is essentially an area west of the Fenagh crossroad). Here is what I have for Charles and Patrick Nowlan’s parents and siblings: BARTHOLOMEW NOWLAN of BALLYHUBBOCK . He married ANN BYRNE on 11 Feb 1795 in Ballon parish church, Co. Carlow. A James Nowlan and a James FIELDING were witnesses. Bartholomew Nowlan and Ann Byrne of Ballyhubbock had the following children: i. CHARLES NOWLAN. Notes for Charles Nowlan: Charles died unmarried. ii. THOMAS NOWLAN. Notes for Thomas Nowlan: Thomas died unmarried. iii. PATRICK NOWLAN OF CLONEGATH. He married ANNE FENELON. Notes for Patrick Nowlan of Clonegath : Patrick settled in Clonegath and he and Anne had three sons, Charles, Michael and Patrick, and four daughters, Anne, Bridget, Mary and Catherine. iv. MICHAEL NOWLAN. He married UNKNOWN-WIFE. Notes for Michael Nowlan: Michael married in Kilkenny and died without issue. v. FRANCIS NOWLAN. He married WIFE STOKES. Notes for Francis Nowlan: Francis married a Miss Stokes in Wicklow and had two sons and one daughter. vi. MARY NOWLAN. She married JAMES McGRATH of BOGHOUSE . Notes for Mary Nowlan: Mary married James McGrath of Boghouse and had two children who died young. vii. MARGARET NOWLAN. Notes for Margaret Nowlan: Margaret died unmarried. viii. CATHERINE NOWLAN. Notes for Catherine Nowlan: Catherine died unmarried. ++++++++++++ Bye for now, Roger http://nolanfamilies.org From: michael purcell Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1841, Kavanagh,Gray,Nowlan,Tuckey. Transcribed by Selina Lawlor. Pat Purcell Papers. 1841. The Information of John Kavanagh of Ballynocken, Carlow, Labourer, who being duly sworn on the Holy Evangelists deposeth and Saith ~ That he is in the Employment of John Gray, Esquire, of Upton House, that he was sent to the premises of Charles Nowlan at Upton on Monday the 25th of October from which premises he has heard that Charles Nowlan has been ejected, that he then and there saw Patrick Nowlan throwing down the Wall of the Cow house, part of said premises, from which Charles Nowlan has been ejected, Patrick Nowlan had a fork in his Hand with which he was throwing down the said Wall, from which the Timber and Thatch had been previously carried away. Patrick Nowlan told John Kavanagh that if it was his intent to report him he would drive the Fork through the bag of his Guts and spread them on the ground for the rats to feed on. (signed) John - his X mark - Kavanagh. Sworn before me at Upton, October 27th 1841 - having been truly read to Deponent by Charles H. Tuckey, Resident Magistrate. John Kavanagh acknowledges himself bound to our Most Gracious Lady the Queen in the Sum of Ten Pounds. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would anyone know the names of the parents of Rozel Adams who married Patience Rodgers March 3rd 1843 in Carlow. Also any of his siblilngs. I think he may have been related to my Elizabeth (Eliza) Adams and her father John Adams. I tried looking in the Irish BMD's and found the marriage and some of the baptism of some of their chidren but no B or D for either Rozel or Patience. Michelle W. Vermont USA

Transcribed by Selina Lawlor. Pat Purcell Papers. 1841. The Information of John Kavanagh of Ballynocken, Carlow, Labourer, who being duly sworn on the Holy Evangelists deposeth and Saith ~ That he is in the Employment of John Gray, Esquire, of Upton House, that he was sent to the premises of Charles Nowlan at Upton on Monday the 25th of October from which premises he has heard that Charles Nowlan has been ejected, that he then and there saw Patrick Nowlan throwing down the Wall of the Cow house, part of said premises, from which Charles Nowlan has been ejected, Patrick Nowlan had a fork in his Hand with which he was throwing down the said Wall, from which the Timber and Thatch had been previously carried away. Patrick Nowlan told John Kavanagh that if it was his intent to report him he would drive the Fork through the bag of his Guts and spread them on the ground for the rats to feed on. (signed) John - his X mark - Kavanagh. Sworn before me at Upton, October 27th 1841 - having been truly read to Deponent by Charles H. Tuckey, Resident Magistrate. John Kavanagh acknowledges himself bound to our Most Gracious Lady the Queen in the Sum of Ten Pounds.

Transcribed by Selina Lawlor. Pat Purcell Papers. 1817. By the Reverend Samuel Roberts, Clerk, one of his Majestys Justices of the Peace for Carlow, Kilkenny and Queen's County. The joint Examinations of Michael Kelly of Castlemore and Thomas Mulrooney of Ballynockin in the County of Carlow, Who being duly sworn on the Holy Evangelists and Examined the aforesaid Michael Kelly for himself saith that in the month of November 1816, Six Firkins of Butter, his property, was Feloniously Stolen and Carried away from his Dairy in Castlemore by some person or persons at this time unknown to Michael Kelly ~~~ And the aforesaid Thomas Mulrooney for himself saith that in the month of November 1816 he went to his Field in Ravindon and there saw Slyvester Eustace of Leighlin Bridge in County Carlow, in the Field burying and covering up some casks of Butter with Hay and Earth, Thomas Mulrooney saith he saw five Firkins of Butter, Slyvester Eustace told him there had been six Firkins of Butter but one of them had taken away by a person or persons unknown to Slyvester Eustace. Thomas Mulrooney told Slyvester Eustace that he heard these were the Firkins stolen from his Uncle Michael Kelly, and further saith that the Five Firkins of Butter was afterwards taken away from his Field by the aforesaid Slyvester Eustace. (signed) Michael Kelly, Thomas Mulrooney. Sworn before me (and being first truly read ) this 7th Day of May 1817. (signed) Samuel Roberts.

Its directly behind ST Patrick's college, its all open to the public now you can walk to your heart's content. PD On 26 August 2012 10:33, Michael Brennan <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Guys for your replies reference St. Joseph's House. It must be well > hidden from the public eye. > > > Regards > Michael Brennan > http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Guys for your replies reference St. Joseph's House. It must be well hidden from the public eye. Regards Michael Brennan http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

Turtle I will send Jack some Purvis information in the post. Depending on his level of interest he might also contact Paul Gorry, one of the most helpful and highly regarded family history researchers operating in Ireland today. For readers who may be interested here is some information on Paul Gorry : Paul Gorry, F.S.G., F.I.G.R.S., M.A.P.G.I. Gorry Research, 84 Ardglass, Baltinglass, Co. Wicklow, Ireland. E Mail: [email protected] *Areas of research: *All of Ireland *Special interests:* Cos. Wicklow, Carlow & Kildare; Registry of Deeds Paul Gorry has had a lifelong interest in local and family history, dabbling in both by the age of ten. As a teenager he joined the Kildare Archaeological Society, and in 1980 he was a founder of the West Wicklow Historical Society, of which he served as Chairman in 1980-1981. He has been engaged in genealogical research on a professional basis since 1979. Paul began his career as a freelance researcher for the Genealogical Office (GO). In 1980, with his colleagues on the GO's research panel he was a founder of Hibernian Research, the first independent Irish genealogical company. Since 1987 he has been trading entirely through the firm of Gorry Research. Paul has been a member of the Irish Genealogical Research Society (IGRS) since 1980 and of the Society of Genealogists [London] since 1987. When the Ireland Branch of the IGRS was established in 1986 he was elected to its committee. He served on that committee in 1986-1989 and 1997-1998. He was a founder member of APGI, was its Hon. Secretary in 1988-1991, and became its President in 2007. In 1989 he brought together a group of individuals to organise an international conference on Irish genealogy. This group staged the 1st Irish Genealogical Congress (IGC) in 1991. It was followed by three further IGCs, held in 1994, 1997 and 2001. Paul was Chairman of the IGC from its inception to 2002. He helped found the Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations (CIGO), and in 1995/1996 he also served as its Chairman. In 2005 he was appointed to the National Library of Ireland Committee on Genealogy and Heraldry. Paul Gorry has written extensively on genealogical and local history topics. He has been a frequent contributor to *Family Tree* and *Irish Roots * magazines over the years. He has also published articles on Irish golf history. With his APGI colleague, Máire Mac Conghail, he was joint-author of the book *Tracing Irish Ancestors*, (HarperCollins, Glasgow, 1997). He also wrote *Baltinglass Golf Club, 1928-2003*, published in 2003, and *Baltinglass Chronicles, 1851-2001*, published in 2006. Paul has considerable experience in teaching and lecturing on genealogy. He is joint co-ordinator of the Diploma in Family History course at Independent Colleges, Dublin, run in conjunction with APGI. As well as speaking at various events and venues in Ireland and England, Paul has lectured at conferences in Jacksonville, Long Island, Cleveland, Boston and Detroit in the U.S.A., and in Hervey Bay in Australia. In June 1999 he was elected a Fellow of the Society of Genealogists. In September 2005 he was awarded the Fellowship of the IGRS. On 22 August 2012 10:55, Turtle Bunbury <[email protected]> wrote: > I also met a charming gentleman last night called Jack Stratton who is > seeking information about the Purvis / Pervis / Perviz family who lived at > Ballycrogue, Co. Carlow. if anyone has further clues, you can either email > me or write directly to Jack c/o Rockdale, Kilmeany, Carlow. > > Cheerio for now, > > Turtle > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for this reference to Castlemore - my "hometown" so to speak. Sylvester Eustace was not a nice fellow, apparently. I have another reference to him in 1819 breaking and entering and robbing John McGrath of Tullowland. Sue C. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1817,Kelly,Mulrooney,Eustace,Roberts. Transcribed by Selina Lawlor. Pat Purcell Papers. 1817. By the Reverend Samuel Roberts, Clerk, one of his Majestys Justices of the Peace for Carlow, Kilkenny and Queen's County. The joint Examinations of Michael Kelly of Castlemore and Thomas Mulrooney of Ballynockin in the County of Carlow, Who being duly sworn on the Holy Evangelists and Examined the aforesaid Michael Kelly for himself saith that in the month of November 1816, Six Firkins of Butter, his property, was Feloniously Stolen and Carried away from his Dairy in Castlemore by some person or persons at this time unknown to Michael Kelly ~~~ And the aforesaid Thomas Mulrooney for himself saith that in the month of November 1816 he went to his Field in Ravindon and there saw Slyvester Eustace of Leighlin Bridge in County Carlow, in the Field burying and covering up some casks of Butter with Hay and Earth, Thomas Mulrooney saith he saw five Firkins of Butter, Slyvester Eustace told him there had been six Firkins of Butter but one of them had taken away by a person or persons unknown to Slyvester Eustace. Thomas Mulrooney told Slyvester Eustace that he heard these were the Firkins stolen from his Uncle Michael Kelly, and further saith that the Five Firkins of Butter was afterwards taken away from his Field by the aforesaid Slyvester Eustace. (signed) Michael Kelly, Thomas Mulrooney. Sworn before me (and being first truly read ) this 7th Day of May 1817. (signed) Samuel Roberts. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes it does PD On 25 August 2012 11:16, Michael Brennan <[email protected]>wrote: > > I have come across a picture of a building in Carlow in the Delany Archives > on Flicker which I am not familiar with and I am hoping someone can > enlighten me. > It is on Flicker at: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/delanyarchive/7215574856/in/photostream/ > > The name of the house is St Joseph's. It was built to accommodate > seminarians. It was later renamed Lennon House in honour of Patrick Lennon. > > Is it part of St Patricks College complex and does it still exist? > > > Regards > Michael Brennan > http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Frances In 1966 Dr Lennon was appointed auxiliary Bishop of Kildare & Leighlin and parish priest of Mountmellick, Co. Laois. On the retirement of Bishop Thomas Keogh in 1967, Dr Lennon was appointed Bishop of Kildare & Leighlin. He retired in December 1987. On 12 January 1990, he died in a car accident at Kill, Co. Kildare. See image and more info on website link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/delanyarchive/7242110850/ Regards Michael Brennan http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: frances heidel Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 9:37 PM To: Michael Brennan Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] St Joseph's House? Was Patrick Lennon a big wig in Ireland at one time? My gggrandfather was a John Lennon. On Aug 25, 2012, at 6:16 AM, Michael Brennan wrote: > > I have come across a picture of a building in Carlow in the Delany > Archives > on Flicker which I am not familiar with and I am hoping someone can > enlighten me. > It is on Flicker at: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/delanyarchive/7215574856/in/photostream/ > > The name of the house is St Joseph's. It was built to accommodate > seminarians. It was later renamed Lennon House in honour of Patrick > Lennon. > > Is it part of St Patricks College complex and does it still exist? > > > Regards > Michael Brennan > http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tullow Monastery day school roll book, January 1896 with a list of pupils for January 1896 and attendance record for the month. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Patrician_Brothers.htm Regards Michael Brennan http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

it was built in the 1970s to the rear of St Patrick's College to accommodate students, it was here Father Peader MacSuibhne lived in his latter years. On 25 August 2012 11:16, Michael Brennan <[email protected]>wrote: > > I have come across a picture of a building in Carlow in the Delany Archives > on Flicker which I am not familiar with and I am hoping someone can > enlighten me. > It is on Flicker at: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/delanyarchive/7215574856/in/photostream/ > > The name of the house is St Joseph's. It was built to accommodate > seminarians. It was later renamed Lennon House in honour of Patrick Lennon. > > Is it part of St Patricks College complex and does it still exist? > > > Regards > Michael Brennan > http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 > County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ > My Laois Page: > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have come across a picture of a building in Carlow in the Delany Archives on Flicker which I am not familiar with and I am hoping someone can enlighten me. It is on Flicker at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/delanyarchive/7215574856/in/photostream/ The name of the house is St Joseph's. It was built to accommodate seminarians. It was later renamed Lennon House in honour of Patrick Lennon. Is it part of St Patricks College complex and does it still exist? Regards Michael Brennan http://www.facebook.com/michael.brennan.3152 County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

[ Note added by Michael Purcell in August 2012. The following is a recently discovered letter in the Pat Purcell Papers from the "self-professed World Betterer" George Bernard Shaw, containing instructions to Malcolmson and Law, Court Place, Carlow. This is the first time that this letter has ever been made public. George Bernard Shaw owned 13 proprieties in Carlow town, inherited by him through his mother's grandfather, Thomas Gurley. The properties were / are situated in Tullow Street, Dublin Street, John Street, Centaur Street, Ballymanus Terrace, The Quay, Athy Road, Grave Lane and the Barrow Track. Shaw paid a visit to Carlow in 1918 to view his property, he stayed in the Railway Hotel ( now The Irishmans ) he later recalled that the proprietress presented him with a joint of "Carlow pig" for supper, he explained that he did not partake of dead animals or their product, she advised him that he would not live long without eating meat - he died in 1950 from injuries incurred after falling from a ladder whilst pruning a tree at the age of 94 ! . Iin 1919 he transferred the Old Assembly Rooms on Dublin Street to the Carlow Technical Instruction Committee for use as a Technical school (in later years the Carlow County Library was situated in the building). In 1944 Shaw set about handing over the remainder of his Carlow estate to be held for the common benefit of the people of Carlow, however he found that Carlow Town Council could not accept his gift as they had no authority to accept gifted property. In 1944 Shaw wrote to Eamon de Valera requesting that his government pass an Act to enable Carlow Town Council to accept his gift. In 1945 Dev's Minister for Local Government, Sean McEntee, passed the Local Authorities ( Acceptance of Gifts ) Bill, 1945. Mr McEntee stated " at present local authorities had no power to acquire property by way of gift, the passing of this Bill would enable a local authority to accept gifts of property, but only on condition that they adopted schemes of civic improvement in their areas and devoted the gifts for the purposes provided for in the schemes and once a scheme was framed it could not be altered except by an Order of the High Court. For further examples of Shaw's letters concerning his property in Carlow see the article " Shaw's bequest to Carlow" by Sean O'Shea published in Carlovina 1998. Transcribed by Selina Lawlor. Pat Purcell Papers 1944. 4, Whitehall Court, London. S.W.I. Ayot. St. Lawrence, Nr. Welwyn Herts. Station: Wheathampstead, L N.E.R. 2½ Miles. Telegrams: Bernard Shaw, Codicote. Telephone: Codicote 218. 7 September 1944 Dear Mr. Law I forgot to say on my card that it would be very convenient if we could get the transfer executed on the 29th Sept .thereabouts as that is a gale day, and the Carlow Corporation could take the succeeding half years rent leaving me the rent just falling due. I don’t know whether there are such things as hanging gales nowadays; but if so we can ignore them, and consider the real dates and not the nominal ones. As to arrears, I hope there won’t be any. Can you get Walsh out, and his tenant in by the 29th and the house repaired at my cost (Major Fitzmaurice knows my views and has ample funds of mine) so that I can hand over the premises in a settled, solvent and waterproof condition? Then there is the tenant at Grave Lane, who gave up paying rents years ago, but has lately been giving Fitzmaurice an occasional ten shillings. The Corporation will no doubt evict her, and if it is wise it will not relet the house, but knock it down and either let the land as an eligible building site, changing the name of the land to something more cheerful than Grave Lane !, or build a new house on it with all the modern improvements to bring it within the scope of the new Fund and attract a substantial tenant. The modernisation of houses by garages, refrigerators, labour saving kitchens, electric cookers is in my view the most obvious and civilising line of improvement. Anyhow, I am quite willing to forego and forgive the arrears if that will facilitate matters. If the lady can afford to pay ten shillings a week, as she is doing, she can afford to rent another dwelling place. Don’t let money stand in the way of a quick and clean settlement. I want to die destitute as far as Eire is concerned. I can afford it. I can’t afford bother. By the way (if it has any relevance) I am technically an Irish citizen as well as a British subject with an English domicile. ( signed ) George Bernard Shaw.

This is a wonderful posting...another jewel from the PPP collection! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of michael purcell Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] George Bernard Shaw letter. [ Note added by Michael Purcell in August 2012. The following is a recently discovered letter in the Pat Purcell Papers from the "self-professed World Betterer" George Bernard Shaw, containing instructions to Malcolmson and Law, Court Place, Carlow. This is the first time that this letter has ever been made public. George Bernard Shaw owned 13 proprieties in Carlow town, inherited by him through his mother's grandfather, Thomas Gurley. The properties were / are situated in Tullow Street, Dublin Street, John Street, Centaur Street, Ballymanus Terrace, The Quay, Athy Road, Grave Lane and the Barrow Track. Shaw paid a visit to Carlow in 1918 to view his property, he stayed in the Railway Hotel ( now The Irishmans ) he later recalled that the proprietress presented him with a joint of "Carlow pig" for supper, he explained that he did not partake of dead animals or their product, she advised him that he would not live long without eating meat - he died in 1950 from injuries incurred after falling from a ladder whilst pruning a tree at the age of 94 ! . Iin 1919 he transferred the Old Assembly Rooms on Dublin Street to the Carlow Technical Instruction Committee for use as a Technical school (in later years the Carlow County Library was situated in the building). In 1944 Shaw set about handing over the remainder of his Carlow estate to be held for the common benefit of the people of Carlow, however he found that Carlow Town Council could not accept his gift as they had no authority to accept gifted property. In 1944 Shaw wrote to Eamon de Valera requesting that his government pass an Act to enable Carlow Town Council to accept his gift. In 1945 Dev's Minister for Local Government, Sean McEntee, passed the Local Authorities ( Acceptance of Gifts ) Bill, 1945. Mr McEntee stated " at present local authorities had no power to acquire property by way of gift, the passing of this Bill would enable a local authority to accept gifts of property, but only on condition that they adopted schemes of civic improvement in their areas and devoted the gifts for the purposes provided for in the schemes and once a scheme was framed it could not be altered except by an Order of the High Court. For further examples of Shaw's letters concerning his property in Carlow see the article " Shaw's bequest to Carlow" by Sean O'Shea published in Carlovina 1998. Transcribed by Selina Lawlor. Pat Purcell Papers 1944. 4, Whitehall Court, London. S.W.I. Ayot. St. Lawrence, Nr. Welwyn Herts. Station: Wheathampstead, L N.E.R. 2½ Miles. Telegrams: Bernard Shaw, Codicote. Telephone: Codicote 218. 7 September 1944 Dear Mr. Law I forgot to say on my card that it would be very convenient if we could get the transfer executed on the 29th Sept .thereabouts as that is a gale day, and the Carlow Corporation could take the succeeding half years rent leaving me the rent just falling due. I don’t know whether there are such things as hanging gales nowadays; but if so we can ignore them, and consider the real dates and not the nominal ones. As to arrears, I hope there won’t be any. Can you get Walsh out, and his tenant in by the 29th and the house repaired at my cost (Major Fitzmaurice knows my views and has ample funds of mine) so that I can hand over the premises in a settled, solvent and waterproof condition? Then there is the tenant at Grave Lane, who gave up paying rents years ago, but has lately been giving Fitzmaurice an occasional ten shillings. The Corporation will no doubt evict her, and if it is wise it will not relet the house, but knock it down and either let the land as an eligible building site, changing the name of the land to something more cheerful than Grave Lane !, or build a new house on it with all the modern improvements to bring it within the scope of the new Fund and attract a substantial tenant. The modernisation of houses by garages, refrigerators, labour saving kitchens, electric cookers is in my view the most obvious and civilising line of improvement. Anyhow, I am quite willing to forego and forgive the arrears if that will facilitate matters. If the lady can afford to pay ten shillings a week, as she is doing, she can afford to rent another dwelling place. Don’t let money stand in the way of a quick and clean settlement. I want to die destitute as far as Eire is concerned. I can afford it. I can’t afford bother. By the way (if it has any relevance) I am technically an Irish citizen as well as a British subject with an English domicile. ( signed ) George Bernard Shaw. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message