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    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Historical Carlow - Schools /Radio Project
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. Turtle and readers, I think Beat 102-103 may have some funding available to pay for " tidbits" collected from readers on the Carlow IGP website .....they contacted me earlier this year and willingly paid for snippets relating to Carlow, perhaps they might pay via the contribution button on the Carlowigp to assist Michael Brennan in running the site, ?? On 20 May 2013 18:50, Ronnie Shorten <ronnieshorten@gmail.com> wrote: > Turtle, for the history week-end, could you advise me please on the > location of the lectures. I hope to have a cousin staying here and she is > in a wheelchair. She loves history and it would be a lovely event for her. > She is afraid that Ducketts'. Grove would not be the easiest place to go > on wheels! > Ronnie Shorten > Sent from my iPad > > On 14 Mar 2013, at 11:43, Turtle Bunbury <turtlehistory@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I am helping Beat 102-103, a local Waterford radio station, with a > project they’ve initiated to try and get more young people interested in > history. > > > > Students were assigned particular towns and asked to find out curious > facts about each area. These are to air as one-minute snippets on a daily > basis over the next few months. I'll be editing and fact-checking > beforehand. > > > > Beat have given me the go ahead to contact the Carlow listers to see if > they have any further fun or interesting trivia they might like to add to > the 'discoveries' of the students outlined below. > > > > The producer writes: ‘Each town is just a minute long so it's just about > making what they say more comprehensive and with some added info.’ > > > > As such, if you’ve any further tidbits to add, do please let us know. > > > > Cheerio for now, > > > > Turtle > > > > > > Ballinkillen > > Teresa Malone is buried at Ballinkillen Chapel yard. She features in the > ballad of Kilcumney and is a heroine of 1978 because she distracted the > crown army as they chased after rebels of 1798. She shot a soldier and rode > off to the rebels. It is said that Teresa Malone lived until she was 90 and > died around the time of the Fenian rising and because of this there was a > big media presence at her funeral as they feared there would be trouble. > > > > > > Bilboa > > Bilboa is known as the mining village of Carlow. Only the church remains > where once there was other buildings revolving around the mining industry. > Bilboa is a deserted mining village- it was part of three mining > settlements in the Carlow/ Laois area. The others where called Newtown and > Moscow. They mined for coal there. There is still a community living in > Bilboa but only the church has survived from those times. Ireland has a > long tradition of mining dating back to the bronze age. > > > > Aghade > > The Bullaun Stone is in the grounds of the All Saint Church in Aghade > and it’s a small and simply stone. Blink and you could miss it as it’s > covered in moss. A bullaun comes from the Irish word for bowl and it’s a > stone that has a dip in it that water can be filled into. Some people think > that water collected in these type of stones has magical and healing > powers. Another stone is the holed stone which is also in Aghade. This is > quite unusual. It’s quite big and people argue about what it was for. Some > think it was for rituals and there is evidence that babies used to be > passed through the hole to cure sickness. > > > > Ballymurphy > > > > Patrick Breen was from near Ballymurphy. He was born in 1795 and in 1846 > to 1847 himself and his family were part of 87 pioneers in America who set > off on a wagon train for California and found themselves trapped by snow in > Sierra Nevda. They were called the Donner Party volunteers- named after > George Donner, their leader. Patrick Breen from Ballymurphy brought his > wife and seven children and they all survived. Of the 87 pioneers on this > journey, 39 died. Patrick Breen kept a diary of his time. It was reported > that some of the people who survived did so by eating the flesh of their > dead companions and the indian guides. They were trying to find a faster > route across Utah and Nevada. The Breens ended up living in California in a > place called San Juan Bautista, California. > > > > Milford > > Milford is about 5 miles from Carlow town and it was the place that > first supplied electricity to Carlow in 1891. The public supply of > electricity was generated by the Millford Mill. Because of Milford Mill and > the electricity it made, Carlow town became the first inland town in > Ireland and England to receive electrical power. The Millford Mills was > almost destroyed by fires twice in 100 years. The first, in 1862, destroyed > metal, machineary and corn. It was thought that the friction of gricing > stones caused spakrs and this set a lot of corn on fire. > > > > Clonegal > > Castle is also called Huntington Castle. One of the few left in Ireland > owned by the family who built it. Captured by Cromwell when he marched on > Kilkenny in 1650 (Some of the students also talk about the movie Barry > Lyndon that was filmed there) > > > > Old Leighlin > > John Tyndall is from there. First scientist to discover why the sky is > blue. Called the Tyndall effect. Explains how it happens….dust particles. > > > > Owning > > During the Cromwellian invasion the bell in the church in Owning was > buried in a bog but they never found it since. It’s rumoured that Hugh > O’Neill from the Flight of the Earls is buried in Owning. > > > > Paulstown > > There was a well there called the well of the retching Cure. It was > thought it had a cure for an upset stomach. > > > > Hugginstown > > Locals stood up to the local landlord for the unjust system of tight > taxes. Called the battle of Carrigshock . Dec 1831. Main tax collector was > a man called Butler and his bodyguard was Gibbons who had served in the > battle of Waterloo where Napoleon had been defeated. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/20/2013 01:14:16
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Historical Carlow - Schools /Radio Project
    2. Ronnie Shorten
    3. Turtle, for the history week-end, could you advise me please on the location of the lectures. I hope to have a cousin staying here and she is in a wheelchair. She loves history and it would be a lovely event for her. She is afraid that Ducketts'. Grove would not be the easiest place to go on wheels! Ronnie Shorten Sent from my iPad On 14 Mar 2013, at 11:43, Turtle Bunbury <turtlehistory@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I am helping Beat 102-103, a local Waterford radio station, with a project they’ve initiated to try and get more young people interested in history. > > Students were assigned particular towns and asked to find out curious facts about each area. These are to air as one-minute snippets on a daily basis over the next few months. I'll be editing and fact-checking beforehand. > > Beat have given me the go ahead to contact the Carlow listers to see if they have any further fun or interesting trivia they might like to add to the 'discoveries' of the students outlined below. > > The producer writes: ‘Each town is just a minute long so it's just about making what they say more comprehensive and with some added info.’ > > As such, if you’ve any further tidbits to add, do please let us know. > > Cheerio for now, > > Turtle > > > Ballinkillen > Teresa Malone is buried at Ballinkillen Chapel yard. She features in the ballad of Kilcumney and is a heroine of 1978 because she distracted the crown army as they chased after rebels of 1798. She shot a soldier and rode off to the rebels. It is said that Teresa Malone lived until she was 90 and died around the time of the Fenian rising and because of this there was a big media presence at her funeral as they feared there would be trouble. > > > Bilboa > Bilboa is known as the mining village of Carlow. Only the church remains where once there was other buildings revolving around the mining industry. Bilboa is a deserted mining village- it was part of three mining settlements in the Carlow/ Laois area. The others where called Newtown and Moscow. They mined for coal there. There is still a community living in Bilboa but only the church has survived from those times. Ireland has a long tradition of mining dating back to the bronze age. > > Aghade > The Bullaun Stone is in the grounds of the All Saint Church in Aghade and it’s a small and simply stone. Blink and you could miss it as it’s covered in moss. A bullaun comes from the Irish word for bowl and it’s a stone that has a dip in it that water can be filled into. Some people think that water collected in these type of stones has magical and healing powers. Another stone is the holed stone which is also in Aghade. This is quite unusual. It’s quite big and people argue about what it was for. Some think it was for rituals and there is evidence that babies used to be passed through the hole to cure sickness. > > Ballymurphy > > Patrick Breen was from near Ballymurphy. He was born in 1795 and in 1846 to 1847 himself and his family were part of 87 pioneers in America who set off on a wagon train for California and found themselves trapped by snow in Sierra Nevda. They were called the Donner Party volunteers- named after George Donner, their leader. Patrick Breen from Ballymurphy brought his wife and seven children and they all survived. Of the 87 pioneers on this journey, 39 died. Patrick Breen kept a diary of his time. It was reported that some of the people who survived did so by eating the flesh of their dead companions and the indian guides. They were trying to find a faster route across Utah and Nevada. The Breens ended up living in California in a place called San Juan Bautista, California. > > Milford > Milford is about 5 miles from Carlow town and it was the place that first supplied electricity to Carlow in 1891. The public supply of electricity was generated by the Millford Mill. Because of Milford Mill and the electricity it made, Carlow town became the first inland town in Ireland and England to receive electrical power. The Millford Mills was almost destroyed by fires twice in 100 years. The first, in 1862, destroyed metal, machineary and corn. It was thought that the friction of gricing stones caused spakrs and this set a lot of corn on fire. > > Clonegal > Castle is also called Huntington Castle. One of the few left in Ireland owned by the family who built it. Captured by Cromwell when he marched on Kilkenny in 1650 (Some of the students also talk about the movie Barry Lyndon that was filmed there) > > Old Leighlin > John Tyndall is from there. First scientist to discover why the sky is blue. Called the Tyndall effect. Explains how it happens….dust particles. > > Owning > During the Cromwellian invasion the bell in the church in Owning was buried in a bog but they never found it since. It’s rumoured that Hugh O’Neill from the Flight of the Earls is buried in Owning. > > Paulstown > There was a well there called the well of the retching Cure. It was thought it had a cure for an upset stomach. > > Hugginstown > Locals stood up to the local landlord for the unjust system of tight taxes. Called the battle of Carrigshock . Dec 1831. Main tax collector was a man called Butler and his bodyguard was Gibbons who had served in the battle of Waterloo where Napoleon had been defeated. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/20/2013 12:50:29
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1887, Complete obituary for Admiral Fishbourne.
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. Transcribed by Michael Purcell, May 2013. Carlow Sentinel. May 1887. Death of Admiral Fishbourne, C.B. We regret to announce the almost sudden death of another illustrious Carlow man, and distinguished naval officer, Admiral E.G. Fishbourne, which occurred on the 12th May 1887, after an illness of two days, of congestion of the brain. Deceased was the youngest and last surviving son of the late William Fishbourne, J.P. ( last Sovereign of Carlow ), and, as will be seen by the obituary notice, which we copy from the Times, had a very distinguished naval career, while to the close of his useful life he was intimately identified with missionary work in London. His death is deeply deplored, and especially amongst his many relatives and friends in this his native county. Our contemporary says :- "The death of Admiral Edmond Gardiner Fishbourne, C.B., which happened at the end of last week at his residence in Hogarth Road, Kensington, has removed one of the most active and energetic of Lord Shaftesbury's colleagues in the work of evangelising the masses of this great metropolis. He was a very familiar presence at the May meetings of Exeter-hall, and his exertions were not confined to members of his own profession. He entered the Royal Navy in the year 1824, passed his examination in 1830, and obtained his first commission in 1835. He saw much active service during the next three years on the African coast, in her Majesty's ships Thalia, Pylades, and Scout, and later in the Albert steamer, under Captain Henry Dundas Trotter, in which he attended the unfortunate expedition to the banks of the river Niger. While employed on this service he was promoted to the rank of Commander, and appointed to the Soudan, another steamer. He went on half-pay in 1842, but subsequently served in the Caffre war of 1850 - 51, when he received the thanks of the Governor of the Cape of Good Hope and of the authorities of Grahamstown and Algoa Bay. About the same time he was created a Companion of the Order of the Bath. He was afterwards actively employed against the privateers in the Chinese seas, and was engaged under the Treasury in relief service for some two or three years. He obtained flag rank in 1869, and became full Admiral in 1880. He was for many years honorary secretary to the Royal Patriotic Fund, and to the Naval and Military Bible Society. entered Royal Navy in 1824, distinguished navy career. Colleague of Lord Shaftsbury.

    05/20/2013 12:41:40
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1887, Admiral Edmond Gardiner Fishbourne.
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. his obituary, quoted in the Nationalist, was published in The London Times. On 20 May 2013 17:53, Turtle Bunbury (History) <turtlehistory@gmail.com>wrote: > Thanks for this Mick. > > The Lisnavagh Archives (G4/1/6) contains a letter of 1856 written by a > rather irate Captain Edmund [sic] Gardiner Fishbourne (1811-1887) to > Captain McClintock Bunbury in which he felt the Admiralty had ‘cast a slur > on me’ when he learned from the Duke of Newcastle that they had rejected > his application for a CB (for his services in the 2nd Anglo-Burmese War of > 1852-1853) ‘in favour of [Hardwicke] a man several years my junior.’ > > Fishbourne had been the senior officer at Rangoon and was the Second in > Command under Commodore Lambert during the war. However, while his services > were recognized by the Governor General and military top brass, he was > overlooked in favour of Commanders Tarleton and Shadwell. He felt the > Admiralty were unjust in ‘reprimanding me and in not making reparations > when they found they were wrong.’ He hoped Captain McC B would mention it > to Admiral Beechey, ‘not as a matter of friendship or favour but as of > basic justice’. > > The Captain then got a memorandum about Fishbourne, showing he had been > the senior officer at ‘the commencement of the Kaffir War’ (when he was > Commander of HMS Hermes) and had received the thanks of the Queen, ‘though > he did not show / share the responsibility, he having returned from the > Mozambique only a few days before the date of Sir Harry Smith’s despatch of > 18 February 1851 reporting the service alluded to.’ He was the only field > officer not rewarded for his services in the Kaffir War. > Fishbourne entered the Royal Navy in 1824, becoming a Lieutenant in 1835, > a Commander in 1841, a Captain in 1853 and retiring as an Admiral in 1879. > Between 1835 and 1850, he saw active duty across Africa, the Cape of Good > Hope, and the East Indies. In 1854, the newly promoted ‘Captain’ Fishbourne > and the HMS Hermes were paid off in Woolwich after steaming 75,000 miles. > > When Shanghai was captured, he landed three ships to defend the British > settlement. On three occasions he destroyed and captured piratical junks > amounting number sot 40. Sir John Parkington when Colonial Secretary > officially wrote to Sir Harry Smith saying that Smith’s choice of officers, > Fishbourne included, should be recognized but when Parkington left that > office, Captain Fishbourne’s name was omitted. He spent many years beating > up pirates and being beaten up in Rangoon on the Empire’s behalf so he felt > understandably sore at being ignored in favour of some cub who had probably > never even left Portsmouth. He later thanks Captain Bunbury for his part in > restoring his credibility in 1859 (although written on black-rimmed > mourning paper from the United Service Club). > > In 1857, he was involved with an attempt to lay the North Atlantic Cable. > The following year, he gave a lecture On Floating Batteries (reported in > the United Services Institute Journal Vol II, 1858). He was a prolific > author of articles on shipping techniques, on various military campaigns, > and also wrote What is Sin?, The Injustice of Free Trade Policy, Entire > Sanctification; or, a clean heart is the doctrine of Scripture, The Irish > Plundered, Manufacturers enriched, and Foreigners protected, Means employed > to raise the Condition of British Seamen, Protection for her people and her > industries the cure for Irish discontent, Romans vii. 14-25 represents > unconverted experience!, Wholeness, or holiness and health through faith in > the Lord Jesus Christ. > He was a Patron of the London Homeopathic Hospital, and of the homeopathic > hospital in Smyrna, as wel as being a Steward at the 1858 Annual Festival > in aid of the London Homeopathic Hospital. > > > > > > > > > On 20 May 2013, at 17:16, Michael Purcell wrote: > > > Carlow Sentinel. > > May 1887. > > [ extract from obituary ] > > Death of Admiral Fishbourne, C.B. > > We regret to announce the almost sudden death of another illustrious > Carlow > > man, YOUNGEST AND LAST SURVIVING SON OF William Fishbourne, J.P. ( last > > Sovereign of Carlow ), entered Royal Navy in 1824, distinguished navy > > career. Colleague of Lord Shaftsbury. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2013 12:08:43
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] 1887, Admiral Edmond Gardiner Fishbourne.
    2. Turtle Bunbury (History)
    3. Thanks for this Mick. The Lisnavagh Archives (G4/1/6) contains a letter of 1856 written by a rather irate Captain Edmund [sic] Gardiner Fishbourne (1811-1887) to Captain McClintock Bunbury in which he felt the Admiralty had ‘cast a slur on me’ when he learned from the Duke of Newcastle that they had rejected his application for a CB (for his services in the 2nd Anglo-Burmese War of 1852-1853) ‘in favour of [Hardwicke] a man several years my junior.’ Fishbourne had been the senior officer at Rangoon and was the Second in Command under Commodore Lambert during the war. However, while his services were recognized by the Governor General and military top brass, he was overlooked in favour of Commanders Tarleton and Shadwell. He felt the Admiralty were unjust in ‘reprimanding me and in not making reparations when they found they were wrong.’ He hoped Captain McC B would mention it to Admiral Beechey, ‘not as a matter of friendship or favour but as of basic justice’. The Captain then got a memorandum about Fishbourne, showing he had been the senior officer at ‘the commencement of the Kaffir War’ (when he was Commander of HMS Hermes) and had received the thanks of the Queen, ‘though he did not show / share the responsibility, he having returned from the Mozambique only a few days before the date of Sir Harry Smith’s despatch of 18 February 1851 reporting the service alluded to.’ He was the only field officer not rewarded for his services in the Kaffir War. Fishbourne entered the Royal Navy in 1824, becoming a Lieutenant in 1835, a Commander in 1841, a Captain in 1853 and retiring as an Admiral in 1879. Between 1835 and 1850, he saw active duty across Africa, the Cape of Good Hope, and the East Indies. In 1854, the newly promoted ‘Captain’ Fishbourne and the HMS Hermes were paid off in Woolwich after steaming 75,000 miles. When Shanghai was captured, he landed three ships to defend the British settlement. On three occasions he destroyed and captured piratical junks amounting number sot 40. Sir John Parkington when Colonial Secretary officially wrote to Sir Harry Smith saying that Smith’s choice of officers, Fishbourne included, should be recognized but when Parkington left that office, Captain Fishbourne’s name was omitted. He spent many years beating up pirates and being beaten up in Rangoon on the Empire’s behalf so he felt understandably sore at being ignored in favour of some cub who had probably never even left Portsmouth. He later thanks Captain Bunbury for his part in restoring his credibility in 1859 (although written on black-rimmed mourning paper from the United Service Club). In 1857, he was involved with an attempt to lay the North Atlantic Cable. The following year, he gave a lecture On Floating Batteries (reported in the United Services Institute Journal Vol II, 1858). He was a prolific author of articles on shipping techniques, on various military campaigns, and also wrote What is Sin?, The Injustice of Free Trade Policy, Entire Sanctification; or, a clean heart is the doctrine of Scripture, The Irish Plundered, Manufacturers enriched, and Foreigners protected, Means employed to raise the Condition of British Seamen, Protection for her people and her industries the cure for Irish discontent, Romans vii. 14-25 represents unconverted experience!, Wholeness, or holiness and health through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. He was a Patron of the London Homeopathic Hospital, and of the homeopathic hospital in Smyrna, as wel as being a Steward at the 1858 Annual Festival in aid of the London Homeopathic Hospital. On 20 May 2013, at 17:16, Michael Purcell wrote: > Carlow Sentinel. > May 1887. > [ extract from obituary ] > Death of Admiral Fishbourne, C.B. > We regret to announce the almost sudden death of another illustrious Carlow > man, YOUNGEST AND LAST SURVIVING SON OF William Fishbourne, J.P. ( last > Sovereign of Carlow ), entered Royal Navy in 1824, distinguished navy > career. Colleague of Lord Shaftsbury. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/20/2013 11:53:44
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1887, Admiral Edmond Gardiner Fishbourne.
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. Carlow Sentinel. May 1887. [ extract from obituary ] Death of Admiral Fishbourne, C.B. We regret to announce the almost sudden death of another illustrious Carlow man, YOUNGEST AND LAST SURVIVING SON OF William Fishbourne, J.P. ( last Sovereign of Carlow ), entered Royal Navy in 1824, distinguished navy career. Colleague of Lord Shaftsbury.

    05/20/2013 11:16:05
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Edmond Nolan 1887.
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. Nationalist and Leinster Times. June 1887. [ extract from obituary ]. Death of Edmond Nolan, Esquire, Ballinrush, Carlow. The death of Edmond Nolan at 84 years of age, last surviving male member of one of the oldest families in the county. Brother of the late Rev Thomas Nolan, and Rev John Nolan. Father of Dr Nolan of Tullow who attended him throughout his illness....he had one of the largest funerals witnessed in the country....

    05/20/2013 11:06:42
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1838, interesting case from Trevor Clowry.
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. *Interesting case submitted by Trevor Clowry* *** * *1838. CARLOW SPRING ASSIZES. (CIVIL SIDE.) - BURGESS Appellant, CLOWRY, Respondent. - Coram JOHNSON, J.* *** * *[CASE]* *- March. Appellant distrained cattle of the respondent for rent due by the latter as tenant of the former, and civil bill replevin thereupon. The respondent’s case was that the distress was irregular from want of sufficient notice of distress within the statute* *** * *[STATUTE] - 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75, s. 6, but it appeared that he (respondent) had requested and obtained postponement of the sale of the distress, and had, subsequently to the distress, and had subsequently to the distress admitted some rent was due by him to the appellant.* *** * *[VERDCT] - Held: that the respondent had by such his acts waived the alleged irregularity.* *** * *[ABRIDGED NOTES - DETAILS]* *Civil bill replevin by Clowry (the respondent,) against Burgess (the appellant,) under the statute 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75. Decree for the respondent, and appeal, &c. The distress which was the subject of the action, was made on the 13th of March, 1837. On the 20th of March, 1837,a notice of distress(a) was served upon the respondent, which notice was in the terms following:—* *(a) Vide 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75, s. 6, which enacts that in all cases of distresses for rent, the person making any such distress shall deliver to the person in possession of the premises, for the rent of which such distress shall be made, or in case there shall not be any person found in possession, shall affix on some conspicuous part of such premises a particular in writing of the rent demanded, specifying the amount thereof, the time or times when the same accrued, and the person by whom, or by whose authority, such distress is made.* *** * *“Take notice that I have distrained the following cattle for rent, and arrears of rent due to me out of the lands of Killoughternane, amounting to the sum of twenty-seven pounds, eight shillings, arid ten pence, ending the 29th September last. Dated March 13th, 1837.—One horse, one cow, one heifer, and four sheep.” - Henry Burgess.* *** * *On the same day, (20th March,) the notice of sale of the distress was posted. On the 27th of March the cattle distrained were driven to Bagnalstown, for the purpose of being there sold, but the respondent having requested a postponement for one week, the sale was adjourned accordingly, and on the same day, (27th March,) notice of the adjournment of the sale to the 3rd of April was posted. On the 30th of March, the respondent went with a third party to the appellant, and on that occasion produced a sum of £23 10s., which he said was the rent due by him to the appellant, and handed over that sum to his companion, who walked away with it, without either giving or offering it or any part thereof to the appellant. On the same day, (30th March,) the Clerk of the Peace issued his order of replevin directed to the Sheriff, Which order was in the terms following:* *** * *- “ORDER OF REPLEVIN. The Sheriff of the County of Carlow is hereby required without delay, to cause to be replevied to Thomas Clowry, (if he shall give sufficient security,) the Goods and Chattels which Henry Burgess unjustly detains. - Signed the 30th day of March, 1837” - Robert Browne, Deputy Clerk of the Peace for the said County of Carlow.* *** * *On the 31st of March the Sheriff issued his replevin. The civil bill bare date the 18th of March, and was lodged on that day with the Clerk of the Peace, but it was not served on the appellant until a day subsequent to that on which the replevin issued. The tenancy was admitted by the respondent, and that rent was in arrear at the time of the distress made.* *** * *[CLOWRY’S CASE]* *On the hearing of the appeal, the respondent contended that the notice of distress was defective in its form, as not containing the particulars required by the statute 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75, s. G, and that such a notice as that required by the said section of the Act, ought to have been served previously to the distress made ; that the notice in question, even if good in form, was served too late; that by such alleged defect in his proceedings, the appellant was rendered a trespasser ab initio, and that no subsequent waiver on the part of the respondent or tenant could cure such alleged defect. * *** * *[BURGESS’ CASE]* *On the part of the appellant, it was contended, that as a tenancy under the appellant was admitted by the respondent, which fact, with the amount of the rent appearing due, brought the case within the civil bill jurisdiction, it followed, first, that the service of a notice of distress under the sixth section of the said statute, was not requisite, as a condition precedent to the landlord’s title Ito distrain the goods of his tenant for his rent. * *Secondly, that the tenant having availed himself of the provisions of the Act by replevying, and bringing his civil bill, was estopped from denying the jurisdiction of the Court to decide on the merits of the case. * *And thirdly, that even though a notice of distress were requisite as a condition precedent to the landlord’s title to distrain, yet that there was sufficient evidence of such notice in the present case, the tenant having waived any irregularity in the service of the notice, by subsequently obtaining an adjournment of the sale, and having also subsequenttlv made an admission, that the rent in respect of which the distress was made was actually due.* *** * *[OUTCOME] His Lordship, on hearing the appeal,' said he would reserve the questions arising in the case for the consideration of the judges; but on a subsequent day his Lordship said he would take upon himself to decide upon the case, and thereupon informed the parties interested, that he did not think the objections to the appellant’s proceedings relied on by the respondent could be sustained by him in this case, that the acts of the respondent subsequently to the making of the distress, amounted, in his Lordship’s opinion, to a waiver on his (the respondent’s) part of the alleged irregularities or defects in the said proceedings, and that therefore without deciding upon the questions raised by the respondent upon the alleged irregularities and defects, he was of opinion that the decree ought to be reversed.(a)* *(a) Vide Dwyer v. Peacock, 2 Fox & Smith, 34.* *** * *Taken from:* *ABRIDGED NOTES OF CASES ARGUED AND DETERMINED IN THE SEVERAL COURTS OF LAW AND EQUITY IN IRELAND DURING THE YEARS 1837 AND 1838 WITH SOME DECISIONS AT “NISI PRIUS” AND ON THE CIRCUITS, A TABLE OF CASES, AND INDEX TO THE PRINCIPAL MATTERS. - BY GEORGE CRAWFORD AND EDWARD SPENCER DIX, Esqrs., BARRISTERS AT LAW.* *VOL. I. “ Arbitramentum Equum tribuit cuique Suum.” - Noy's Maxims.* *DUBLIN HODGES AND SMITH, COLLEGE-GREEN. M.DCCC.XXX IX.* *Pages 350 – 353 (ABRIDGED NOTES OF CASES.)* *** * *[Basic Overview by Trevor Clowry]* *Thomas Clowry owed Henry Burgess rent. Burgess took animals worth the amount due to him on 13th March from Thomas Clowrys farm. Clowry asked Burgess for a postponement of the sale of the animals so he could get the rent together but eventually did not pay Burgess. Burgess served a notice of distress on Clowry on the 20th March. Clowry argued due to a statute, the notice of distress should have been served before the animals were taken but admitted that the rent was due – and therefore Burgess had been trepassing. Burgess argued that because Clowry had admitted owing the rent and asking for the postponement, that the mistakes that Burgess made when serving the distress notice should be waived. The judge found in favour of Burgess.*

    05/20/2013 08:30:08
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Richard Annesley-Rainsford+Robert Louis Stevenson.
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. 54 Dublin Street, home of Ryan family shared with Connie Byrne Hyland Hairdressing Salon. On 20 May 2013 12:06, noel walsh <carlowpast@gmail.com> wrote: > Mick do you have a number for the Woodhouse- Rainsford shop on Dublin > Street ? > > > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > [ note added by Michael Purcell 2012. - Estimate for repairs dated > > 1847 from Richard Annesley Rainsford, Coach Builder of Cox's Lane , > > Carlow. > > According to Henrietta Maria Hickey in her letter "Not we from Kings but > > Kings from us" Richard Annesley-Rainsford was the illegitimate descendant > > of The Lord Altham, Governor of Wexford. > > Richard claimed blood relationship to the Earl of Anglesey, the Earl of > > Rutland, the Countess of Dorchester and Sir Richard Raynsford. " > > Henrietta wrote "Richard was treated with deference by the gentry of the > > county, many of whom held doubts regarding the claims made on their own > > pedigree charts, they believed that Richard, now the Tradesman, emerged > > badly in the settlement of the Earl's affairs". > > It was said that Robert Louis Stevenson based his novel "Kidnapped" on > the > > exploits of The Lord Altham. > > In 1872 his son Richard Rainsford married Susan Woodhouse in St Mary's > > Church, Castle Street, Carlow. Her father was John Woodhouse, a shoemaker > > who lived on Dublin Street, now a hair dressers beside O'Loughlin's pub > . > > Susan's sister Mary Ann Woodhouse was married to Sam Hunt, Sam operated a > > harness making business on the corner of Browne Street / Dublin Street, > > where Lambert's shop is now situated ]. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To the Board of the Gaol of Carlow. > > ESTIMATE. > > Cox's Lane and Dublin Street, Carlow, 1st May 1847. > > Richard Rainsford, Cox's Lane, Carlow. > > The Estimate of Sundry Repairs with painting wanting to be done to the > > Carlow Gaol prisoners van. > > Repairing the door of the van which is much out of order. > > Making the hinges of the door quite secure with proper screws. > > Repairing the door lock up bolt. > > Repairing the back step of the van with proper bolt, it is nearly off. > > Repairing the back part of the body with new molding where the molding is > > gone off, with making all the sheeting perfect. > > Making the bottom of the van all perfect, the bottom is now loose. > > Repairing the two sides of the van, which is now really falling to > pieces. > > Repairing the front of van with new molding and making all the sheeting > > quite secure, the sheeting is all quite loose. > > Repairing the roof of the van which is in a very bad state and making the > > roof waterproof. > > New glazing a window in roof of van with 8 panes of glass. > > Repairing drivers foot board which is broken. > > Putting in a new splinter bar of best Ash, the old one is broke and of no > > use. > > Repairing the shafts they are greatly out of order. > > Repairing the fou ? carriage, so as to cause the van to be easy drawn, it > > is very difficult for a horse to draw it at present. > > Making large and small wheels correct on the A...?. > > Painting the van any colour the committee might think proper and giving > it > > two full coats of varnish, which would cause the painting to hold for > > several years. > > Painting the van inside with one coat of good paint.--- Total £5 - 8 > > shillings - and 4 pence. > > I beg to say that by doing the van as I describe, would cause it to last > > for several years and when done would be more perfect than first day. ( > > signed ) Richard Rainsford. > > Accepted by the Board ( signed ) W. ? Bernard, Chairman. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2013 07:40:31
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Edmond Nolan 1887.
    2. Roger Nowlan
    3. Mick, Thank you for the transcription. Edmond’s grandparents were Laurence Nowlan (c1711-1783) and Anne Wright (c1732-1783) who are buried in the old cemetery behind the Ballon church. The Nolan book (published in 2000) identifies this line as a sub-branch of the Shangarry Nolans, an assignment which I am beginning to question. With so many Nolan lines in the Ballon area it is not hard to understand how false assumptions can arise. Edmond’s parents were Edmund Nowlan (c1755-1847) Elizabeth Doyle of Ballinrush. Here is what I have on for Edmond’s brothers identified in the obituary: 1) Rev. Thomas Nolan (1792-1886) According to his mother, Thomas was born December 29, 1792, and, in the 1798 timeframe, was an eye-witness to some minor engagements between the insurgents and the yoemanry at Ballinrush and Garryhill. In 1838, Thomas was appointed PP of Abbeyleix and later built a church at Ballyroan. He died in 1886. 2) Rev. John Nolan (1808-1880) John was appointed Curate of Baltinglass and was responsible for building a church there. In 1867, he was appointed PP of Killeigh in Co. Kildare and while in the area was responsible for building the Convent of Mercy at Rathdangan and the schools in Kildare town. 3) Dr. Joseph Nolan (c1851-1914) [RN: buried in Rathoe] Joseph qualified as an M.D. and was appointed to Tullow Hospital in 1873. Twenty years later he won the coronorship for Co. Carlow by a margin of 600 votes. It is said that, on the night of his victory, bonfires were lit on all the hills of south Carlow county. The same year he was appointed commissioner of the Peace. A keen sportsman who hunted the Carlow hounds, Joseph contracted a fever and died in 1914 aged 63 years. Sometime during his life Joseph bought the Kilconnor property from the Watsons. In 1919, after his death, the Kilconnor property was sold to Nicholas Nolan of Kylemaglush, father of Eddie Nolan who wrote up the Kilconnor Nolan pedigree. Not mentioned in the obituary is another son who was a doctor but who died aged only 28. 4) Dr. Eugene Nolan (c1844-1872) [RN: buried in Myshall] While studying to be a Doctor of Medicine, Eugene participated in several Fenian rebel activities. In particular, it is known that he took part in the "Rising of Tallaght" in Co. Dublin but escaped arrest. Eventually, Eugene obtained his medical degree and became Medical Officer (M.O.) for Castlecomer, Co. Kilkenny. [NOTE re. “Eugene”: I believe that the first name "Eugene" is a variant of the better known first name "Hugh" which was common in the Nolan lines and, harking back to more than 2000 years, a variant of "Ugaine" (recall "Ugaine Mor", a pre-Christian era ancestor of the Nolans of Co. Carlow). Bye for now and thanks again for your efforts, Roger http://nolanfamilies.org -----Original Message----- From: Michael Purcell Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:06 PM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Edmond Nolan 1887. Nationalist and Leinster Times. June 1887. [ extract from obituary ]. Death of Edmond Nolan, Esquire, Ballinrush, Carlow. The death of Edmond Nolan at 84 years of age, last surviving male member of one of the oldest families in the county. Brother of the late Rev Thomas Nolan, and Rev John Nolan. Father of Dr Nolan of Tullow who attended him throughout his illness....he had one of the largest funerals witnessed in the country.... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/20/2013 07:16:33
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1837/38 - Burgess & Clowry & Browne
    2. Trevor Clowry
    3. 1838. CARLOW SPRING ASSIZES. (CIVIL SIDE.) - BURGESS Appellant, CLOWRY, Respondent. - Coram JOHNSON, J. [CASE] - March. Appellant distrained cattle of the respondent for rent due by the latter as tenant of the former, and civil bill replevin thereupon. The respondent’s case was that the distress was irregular from want of sufficient notice of distress within the statute [STATUTE] - 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75, s. 6, but it appeared that he (respondent) had requested and obtained postponement of the sale of the distress, and had, subsequently to the distress, and had subsequently to the distress admitted some rent was due by him to the appellant. [VERDCT] - Held: that the respondent had by such his acts waived the alleged irregularity. [ABRIDGED NOTES - DETAILS] Civil bill replevin by Clowry (the respondent,) against Burgess (the appellant,) under the statute 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75. Decree for the respondent, and appeal, &c. The distress which was the subject of the action, was made on the 13th of March, 1837. On the 20th of March, 1837,a notice of distress(a) was served upon the respondent, which notice was in the terms following:— (a) Vide 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75, s. 6, which enacts that in all cases of distresses for rent, the person making any such distress shall deliver to the person in possession of the premises, for the rent of which such distress shall be made, or in case there shall not be any person found in possession, shall affix on some conspicuous part of such premises a particular in writing of the rent demanded, specifying the amount thereof, the time or times when the same accrued, and the person by whom, or by whose authority, such distress is made. “Take notice that I have distrained the following cattle for rent, and arrears of rent due to me out of the lands of Killoughternane, amounting to the sum of twenty-seven pounds, eight shillings, arid ten pence, ending the 29th September last. Dated March 13th, 1837.—One horse, one cow, one heifer, and four sheep.” - Henry Burgess. On the same day, (20th March,) the notice of sale of the distress was posted. On the 27th of March the cattle distrained were driven to Bagnalstown, for the purpose of being there sold, but the respondent having requested a postponement for one week, the sale was adjourned accordingly, and on the same day, (27th March,) notice of the adjournment of the sale to the 3rd of April was posted. On the 30th of March, the respondent went with a third party to the appellant, and on that occasion produced a sum of £23 10s., which he said was the rent due by him to the appellant, and handed over that sum to his companion, who walked away with it, without either giving or offering it or any part thereof to the appellant. On the same day, (30th March,) the Clerk of the Peace issued his order of replevin directed to the Sheriff, Which order was in the terms following: - “ORDER OF REPLEVIN. The Sheriff of the County of Carlow is hereby required without delay, to cause to be replevied to Thomas Clowry, (if he shall give sufficient security,) the Goods and Chattels which Henry Burgess unjustly detains. - Signed the 30th day of March, 1837” - Robert Browne, Deputy Clerk of the Peace for the said County of Carlow. On the 31st of March the Sheriff issued his replevin. The civil bill bare date the 18th of March, and was lodged on that day with the Clerk of the Peace, but it was not served on the appellant until a day subsequent to that on which the replevin issued. The tenancy was admitted by the respondent, and that rent was in arrear at the time of the distress made. [CLOWRY’S CASE] On the hearing of the appeal, the respondent contended that the notice of distress was defective in its form, as not containing the particulars required by the statute 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75, s. G, and that such a notice as that required by the said section of the Act, ought to have been served previously to the distress made ; that the notice in question, even if good in form, was served too late; that by such alleged defect in his proceedings, the appellant was rendered a trespasser ab initio, and that no subsequent waiver on the part of the respondent or tenant could cure such alleged defect. [BURGESS’ CASE] On the part of the appellant, it was contended, that as a tenancy under the appellant was admitted by the respondent, which fact, with the amount of the rent appearing due, brought the case within the civil bill jurisdiction, it followed, first, that the service of a notice of distress under the sixth section of the said statute, was not requisite, as a condition precedent to the landlord’s title Ito distrain the goods of his tenant for his rent. Secondly, that the tenant having availed himself of the provisions of the Act by replevying, and bringing his civil bill, was estopped from denying the jurisdiction of the Court to decide on the merits of the case. And thirdly, that even though a notice of distress were requisite as a condition precedent to the landlord’s title to distrain, yet that there was sufficient evidence of such notice in the present case, the tenant having waived any irregularity in the service of the notice, by subsequently obtaining an adjournment of the sale, and having also subsequenttlv made an admission, that the rent in respect of which the distress was made was actually due. [OUTCOME] His Lordship, on hearing the appeal,' said he would reserve the questions arising in the case for the consideration of the judges; but on a subsequent day his Lordship said he would take upon himself to decide upon the case, and thereupon informed the parties interested, that he did not think the objections to the appellant’s proceedings relied on by the respondent could be sustained by him in this case, that the acts of the respondent subsequently to the making of the distress, amounted, in his Lordship’s opinion, to a waiver on his (the respondent’s) part of the alleged irregularities or defects in the said proceedings, and that therefore without deciding upon the questions raised by the respondent upon the alleged irregularities and defects, he was of opinion that the decree ought to be reversed.(a) (a) Vide Dwyer v. Peacock, 2 Fox & Smith, 34. Taken from: ABRIDGED NOTES OF CASES ARGUED AND DETERMINED IN THE SEVERAL COURTS OF LAW AND EQUITY IN IRELAND DURING THE YEARS 1837 AND 1838 WITH SOME DECISIONS AT “NISI PRIUS” AND ON THE CIRCUITS, A TABLE OF CASES, AND INDEX TO THE PRINCIPAL MATTERS. - BY GEORGE CRAWFORD AND EDWARD SPENCER DIX, Esqrs., BARRISTERS AT LAW. VOL. I. “ Arbitramentum Equum tribuit cuique Suum.” - Noy's Maxims. DUBLIN HODGES AND SMITH, COLLEGE-GREEN. M.DCCC.XXX IX. Pages 350 – 353 (ABRIDGED NOTES OF CASES.) [Basic Overview by Trevor Clowry] Thomas Clowry owed Henry Burgess rent. Burgess took animals worth the amount due to him on 13th March from Thomas Clowrys farm. Clowry asked Burgess for a postponement of the sale of the animals so he could get the rent together but eventually did not pay Burgess. Burgess served a notice of distress on Clowry on the 20th March. Clowry argued due to a statute, the notice of distress should have been served before the animals were taken but admitted that the rent was due – and therefore Burgess had been trepassing. Burgess argued that because Clowry had admitted owing the rent and asking for the postponement, that the mistakes that Burgess made when serving the distress notice should be waived. The judge found in favour of Burgess.

    05/20/2013 07:04:02
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Arless Marriage Reg.
    2. McKenna
    3. Does Areles Marriage Register show the Father's name of the Bride and Groom? Thank you to anyone who can help. Kathleen

    05/20/2013 06:28:32
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Richard Annesley-Rainsford+Robert Louis Stevenson.
    2. noel walsh
    3. Mick do you have a number for the Woodhouse- Rainsford shop on Dublin Street ? On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com>wrote: > [ note added by Michael Purcell 2012. - Estimate for repairs dated > 1847 from Richard Annesley Rainsford, Coach Builder of Cox's Lane , > Carlow. > According to Henrietta Maria Hickey in her letter "Not we from Kings but > Kings from us" Richard Annesley-Rainsford was the illegitimate descendant > of The Lord Altham, Governor of Wexford. > Richard claimed blood relationship to the Earl of Anglesey, the Earl of > Rutland, the Countess of Dorchester and Sir Richard Raynsford. " > Henrietta wrote "Richard was treated with deference by the gentry of the > county, many of whom held doubts regarding the claims made on their own > pedigree charts, they believed that Richard, now the Tradesman, emerged > badly in the settlement of the Earl's affairs". > It was said that Robert Louis Stevenson based his novel "Kidnapped" on the > exploits of The Lord Altham. > In 1872 his son Richard Rainsford married Susan Woodhouse in St Mary's > Church, Castle Street, Carlow. Her father was John Woodhouse, a shoemaker > who lived on Dublin Street, now a hair dressers beside O'Loughlin's pub . > Susan's sister Mary Ann Woodhouse was married to Sam Hunt, Sam operated a > harness making business on the corner of Browne Street / Dublin Street, > where Lambert's shop is now situated ]. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To the Board of the Gaol of Carlow. > ESTIMATE. > Cox's Lane and Dublin Street, Carlow, 1st May 1847. > Richard Rainsford, Cox's Lane, Carlow. > The Estimate of Sundry Repairs with painting wanting to be done to the > Carlow Gaol prisoners van. > Repairing the door of the van which is much out of order. > Making the hinges of the door quite secure with proper screws. > Repairing the door lock up bolt. > Repairing the back step of the van with proper bolt, it is nearly off. > Repairing the back part of the body with new molding where the molding is > gone off, with making all the sheeting perfect. > Making the bottom of the van all perfect, the bottom is now loose. > Repairing the two sides of the van, which is now really falling to pieces. > Repairing the front of van with new molding and making all the sheeting > quite secure, the sheeting is all quite loose. > Repairing the roof of the van which is in a very bad state and making the > roof waterproof. > New glazing a window in roof of van with 8 panes of glass. > Repairing drivers foot board which is broken. > Putting in a new splinter bar of best Ash, the old one is broke and of no > use. > Repairing the shafts they are greatly out of order. > Repairing the fou ? carriage, so as to cause the van to be easy drawn, it > is very difficult for a horse to draw it at present. > Making large and small wheels correct on the A...?. > Painting the van any colour the committee might think proper and giving it > two full coats of varnish, which would cause the painting to hold for > several years. > Painting the van inside with one coat of good paint.--- Total £5 - 8 > shillings - and 4 pence. > I beg to say that by doing the van as I describe, would cause it to last > for several years and when done would be more perfect than first day. ( > signed ) Richard Rainsford. > Accepted by the Board ( signed ) W. ? Bernard, Chairman. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/20/2013 06:06:30
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Boat Builder in Graigue 1820
    2. Paula, I don't know an oarlock from a boatswain, but I do know the Carlow Rowers Club has been in existence since 1859. They may have something in their records about the local boat industry of that time. Jack Langton -----Original Message----- From: Paula Miska <ptmiska@umich.edu> To: IRL-CARLOW <IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 9:29 am Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Boat Builder in Graigue 1820 I am interested in information about the boat transport system that ran from Carlow to Athy, and Dublin and other towns north. My 4x ggfather John Flood was a boat builder in Graigue in the 1820's to 1850's. In one of the directories it states that he also ran the water transport service. Is there any was to find out more about this service, if he really owned it and when it went out of business. Thank you for any information about this aspect of Graigue Carlow life. Regards, Paula Tuohy Miska Ann Arbor -------------------------------

    05/20/2013 04:16:51
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Boat Builder in Graigue 1820
    2. Paula Miska
    3. I am interested in information about the boat transport system that ran from Carlow to Athy, and Dublin and other towns north. My 4x ggfather John Flood was a boat builder in Graigue in the 1820's to 1850's. In one of the directories it states that he also ran the water transport service. Is there any was to find out more about this service, if he really owned it and when it went out of business. Thank you for any information about this aspect of Graigue Carlow life. Regards, Paula Tuohy Miska Ann Arbor

    05/20/2013 03:27:04
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 172
    2. John Shepperd
    3. That's brilliant! Another coachbuilder. I have completed a monologue regarding Thomas Oliver, and perhaps a link would be of interest. John Shepperd > From: irl-carlow-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 172 > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 01:00:43 -0600 > > > > Before you send an email to this List you must first of all subscribe to the List. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 1847, Richard Annesley-Rainsford, Susan Woodhouse etc. > (Michael Purcell) > 2. Richard Annesley-Rainsford+Robert Louis Stevenson. > (Michael Purcell) > 3. alt nua / a new article (Jerry Kelly) > 4. Re: Clowry, Rathvilly. (Gene) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 10:45:21 +0100 > From: Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] 1847, Richard Annesley-Rainsford, Susan > Woodhouse etc. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAKqwSs6325taACSaovfohWEKLHz9rFOMiiQ5zf4Pc-V62_V6sg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > [ note added by Michael Purcell 2012. - Estimate dated 1847 from Richard > Annesley Rainsford, Coach Builder of Cox's Lane , Carlow. > According to Henrietta Maria Hickey in her letter "Not we from Kings but > Kings from us" Richard Annesley-Rainsford was the illegitimate descendant > of The Lord Altham, Governor of Wexford. > Richard claimed blood relationship to the Earl of Anglesey, the Earl of > Rutland, the Countess of Dorchester and Sir Richard Raynsford. " > Henrietta wrote "Richard was treated with deference by the gentry of the > county, many of whom held doubts regarding the claims made on their own > pedigree charts, they believed that Richard, now the Tradesman, emerged > badly in the settlement of the Earl's affairs". > It was said that Robert Louis Stevenson based his novel "Kidnapped" on the > exploits of The Lord Altham. > In 1872 his son Richard Rainsford married Susan Woodhouse in St Mary's > Church, Castle Street, Carlow. Her father was John Woodhouse, a shoemaker > who lived on Dublin Street, [ now a hair dressers beside O'Loughlin's pub > ]. > Susan's sister Mary Ann Woodhouse was married to Sam Hunt, [ Sam operated > a harness making business on the corner of Browne Street / Dublin Street, > where Lambert's shop is not situated ]. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To the Board of the Gaol of Carlow. > ESTIMATE. > Cox's Lane and Dublin Street, Carlow, 1st May 1847. > Richard Rainsford, Cox's Lane, Carlow. > The Estimate of Sundry Repairs with painting wanting to be done to the > Carlow Gaol prisoners van. > Repairing the door of the van which is much out of order. > Making the hinges of the door quite secure with proper screws. > Repairing the door lock up bolt. > Repairing the back step of the van with proper bolt, it is nearly off. > Repairing the back part of the body with new molding where the molding is > gone off, with making all the sheeting perfect. > Making the bottom of the van all perfect, the bottom is now loose. > Repairing the two sides of the van, which is now really falling to pieces. > Repairing the front of van with new molding and making all the sheeting > quite secure, the sheeting is all quite loose. > Repairing the roof of the van which is in a very bad state and making the > roof waterproof. > New glazing a window in roof of van with 8 panes of glass. > Repairing drivers foot board which is broken. > Putting in a new splinter bar of best Ash, the old one is broke and of no > use. > Repairing the shafts they are greatly out of order. > Repairing the fou ? carriage, so as to cause the van to be easy drawn, it > is very difficult for a horse to draw it at present. > Making large and small wheels correct on the A...?. > Painting the van any colour the committee might think proper and giving it > two full coats of varnish, which would cause the painting to hold for > several years. > Painting the van inside with one coat of good paint.--- Total ?5 - 8 > shillings - and 4 pence. > I beg to say that by doing the van as I describe, would cause it to last > for several years and when done would be more perfect than first day. ( > signed ) Richard Rainsford. > Accepted by the Board ( signed ) W. ? Bernard, Chairman. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 11:40:20 +0100 > From: Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Richard Annesley-Rainsford+Robert Louis > Stevenson. > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAKqwSs7ybrnmMz-tO9qNJJEOGQDFZOvOt_+-ySB2K6rfKLjJLw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > [ note added by Michael Purcell 2012. - Estimate for repairs dated > 1847 from Richard Annesley Rainsford, Coach Builder of Cox's Lane , > Carlow. > According to Henrietta Maria Hickey in her letter "Not we from Kings but > Kings from us" Richard Annesley-Rainsford was the illegitimate descendant > of The Lord Altham, Governor of Wexford. > Richard claimed blood relationship to the Earl of Anglesey, the Earl of > Rutland, the Countess of Dorchester and Sir Richard Raynsford. " > Henrietta wrote "Richard was treated with deference by the gentry of the > county, many of whom held doubts regarding the claims made on their own > pedigree charts, they believed that Richard, now the Tradesman, emerged > badly in the settlement of the Earl's affairs". > It was said that Robert Louis Stevenson based his novel "Kidnapped" on the > exploits of The Lord Altham. > In 1872 his son Richard Rainsford married Susan Woodhouse in St Mary's > Church, Castle Street, Carlow. Her father was John Woodhouse, a shoemaker > who lived on Dublin Street, now a hair dressers beside O'Loughlin's pub . > Susan's sister Mary Ann Woodhouse was married to Sam Hunt, Sam operated a > harness making business on the corner of Browne Street / Dublin Street, > where Lambert's shop is now situated ]. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To the Board of the Gaol of Carlow. > ESTIMATE. > Cox's Lane and Dublin Street, Carlow, 1st May 1847. > Richard Rainsford, Cox's Lane, Carlow. > The Estimate of Sundry Repairs with painting wanting to be done to the > Carlow Gaol prisoners van. > Repairing the door of the van which is much out of order. > Making the hinges of the door quite secure with proper screws. > Repairing the door lock up bolt. > Repairing the back step of the van with proper bolt, it is nearly off. > Repairing the back part of the body with new molding where the molding is > gone off, with making all the sheeting perfect. > Making the bottom of the van all perfect, the bottom is now loose. > Repairing the two sides of the van, which is now really falling to pieces. > Repairing the front of van with new molding and making all the sheeting > quite secure, the sheeting is all quite loose. > Repairing the roof of the van which is in a very bad state and making the > roof waterproof. > New glazing a window in roof of van with 8 panes of glass. > Repairing drivers foot board which is broken. > Putting in a new splinter bar of best Ash, the old one is broke and of no > use. > Repairing the shafts they are greatly out of order. > Repairing the fou ? carriage, so as to cause the van to be easy drawn, it > is very difficult for a horse to draw it at present. > Making large and small wheels correct on the A...?. > Painting the van any colour the committee might think proper and giving it > two full coats of varnish, which would cause the painting to hold for > several years. > Painting the van inside with one coat of good paint.--- Total ?5 - 8 > shillings - and 4 pence. > I beg to say that by doing the van as I describe, would cause it to last > for several years and when done would be more perfect than first day. ( > signed ) Richard Rainsford. > Accepted by the Board ( signed ) W. ? Bernard, Chairman. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 14:22:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jerry Kelly <jerrykelly@irishtribes.com> > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] alt nua / a new article > To: IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <1368998562.26561.YahooMailClassic@web5801.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > A chairde, > > ? > > T? alt nua saor in aisce agam faoin?r gcult?r ag:?? /?? I > have a new, free article about our culture at: > > ? > > http://www.irishtribes.com/articles.html > > > ? > > Chun freagra luath a fh?il ar aon cheist n? tr?cht, cuir > r-theachtaireachta? chugam ag:? /? For fast response on any question or comment, > send emails to me at: > > ? > > jerrykelly@att.net > > ? > > Le gach dea-ghu?, > > Gear?id / Jerry > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 22:16:48 -0600 > From: Gene <ggribbin@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry, Rathvilly. > To: "irl-carlow@rootsweb.com" <irl-carlow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <539A00C9-9DD9-4330-97FB-C7B168B1A645@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Is this index of baptismal register in addition to the one that Cara transcribed a couple of years ago. I think hers went from around 1830 to about 1842. I assume we are talking about St. Patrick's Church in Rathvilly. > > I am interested in finding anything concerning Edward Byrne and Julia Brien, both their baptism and marriage plus anything on siblings. > > Gene > > On May 17, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Transcription from index of baptismal register of Rathvilly Parish R.C. > > Church. > > Index compiled under a Youth Employment Scheme, some register entries may > > have been omitted or transcribed incorrectly as the scheme was inadequately > > supervised. > > CLOWRY - CLORY. > > Mary Clory, 10/09/1806, father, Michael, mmn, Mary ?- , Knoclishen. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-CARLOW list administrator, send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-CARLOW mailing list, send an email to IRL-CARLOW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-CARLOW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 172 > ******************************************

    05/20/2013 02:59:24
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow County Library.
    2. Ellen
    3. Dear Michael,  Perhaps a call or note from you to Adam's boss praising him could help turn his temp status to permanent?  I know I appreciate it when a customer of mine tells the boss what a great job I did. Regards, Ellen >________________________________ > From: Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> >To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:41 AM >Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Carlow County Library. > > >Nationalist, 7th May 2013. >Extract from "Godfrey's Gospel" a weekly comment on events by Michael >Godfrey. >"I am going to say something positive about the library service in Carlow. >Did you know that all the back issues of The Nationalist are held in the >county library ?. >Recently I wanted to get a copy of the front page of an edition of the >paper in 1923, so off I went to the library, where I was quickly sent to >where the microfilms are kept. >Thankfully, I met a very helpful employee, Adam Hennessy, who couldn't do >enough for me. In fact, he even went so far as to take a digital photo of >the copy of the newspaper I was looking for and then emailed it to me so I >would have a better quality reproduction than the photocopied version. >It was a simple thing but, to be honest, it is so rare nowadays to meet >someone who is prepared to go that extra mile to provide a good service >that I hardly knew what to say to the man. >Anyway, I hope Adam reads this piece - or better still his boss. I am very >grateful for what he did. During the exercise, we also had a good chat >about Carlow in times past and how important it is to preserve our history." >[ note added by Michael Purcell - all the staff at the Carlow County >Library are very helpful and the facilities in the local history >section are of immense benefit to researchers and students. >At present Adam holds a temporary position in the library, he is a member >of a long established respected Carlow family and takes a genuine interest >in our history, he is very knowledgeable and helpful and likes his work, I >too hope he will be employed with the library service for as long as he >wants to stay. ]. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    05/19/2013 09:57:17
    1. Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry, Rathvilly.
    2. Gene
    3. Is this index of baptismal register in addition to the one that Cara transcribed a couple of years ago. I think hers went from around 1830 to about 1842. I assume we are talking about St. Patrick's Church in Rathvilly. I am interested in finding anything concerning Edward Byrne and Julia Brien, both their baptism and marriage plus anything on siblings. Gene On May 17, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> wrote: > Transcription from index of baptismal register of Rathvilly Parish R.C. > Church. > Index compiled under a Youth Employment Scheme, some register entries may > have been omitted or transcribed incorrectly as the scheme was inadequately > supervised. > CLOWRY - CLORY. > Mary Clory, 10/09/1806, father, Michael, mmn, Mary ?- , Knoclishen. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/19/2013 04:16:48
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] 1837/38 - Burgess & Clowry & Browne
    2. Trevor Clowry
    3. 1838. CARLOW SPRING ASSIZES. (CIVIL SIDE.) - BURGESS Appellant, CLOWRY, Respondent. - Coram JOHNSON, J. [CASE] - March. Appellant distrained cattle of the respondent for rent due by the latter as tenant of the former, and civil bill replevin thereupon. The respondent’s case was that the distress was irregular from want of sufficient notice of distress within the statute [STATUTE] - 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75, s. 6, but it appeared that he (respondent) had requested and obtained postponement of the sale of the distress, and had, subsequently to the distress, and had subsequently to the distress admitted some rent was due by him to the appellant. [VERDCT] - Held: that the respondent had by such his acts waived the alleged irregularity. [ABRIDGED NOTES - DETAILS] Civil bill replevin by Clowry (the respondent,) against Burgess (the appellant,) under the statute 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75. Decree for the respondent, and appeal, &c. The distress which was the subject of the action, was made on the 13th of March, 1837. On the 20th of March, 1837,a notice of distress(a) was served upon the respondent, which notice was in the terms following:— (a) Vide 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75, s. 6, which enacts that in all cases of distresses for rent, the person making any such distress shall deliver to the person in possession of the premises, for the rent of which such distress shall be made, or in case there shall not be any person found in possession, shall affix on some conspicuous part of such premises a particular in writing of the rent demanded, specifying the amount thereof, the time or times when the same accrued, and the person by whom, or by whose authority, such distress is made. “Take notice that I have distrained the following cattle for rent, and arrears of rent due to me out of the lands of Killoughternane, amounting to the sum of twenty-seven pounds, eight shillings, arid ten pence, ending the 29th September last. Dated March 13th, 1837.—One horse, one cow, one heifer, and four sheep.” - Henry Burgess. On the same day, (20th March,) the notice of sale of the distress was posted. On the 27th of March the cattle distrained were driven to Bagnalstown, for the purpose of being there sold, but the respondent having requested a postponement for one week, the sale was adjourned accordingly, and on the same day, (27th March,) notice of the adjournment of the sale to the 3rd of April was posted. On the 30th of March, the respondent went with a third party to the appellant, and on that occasion produced a sum of £23 10s., which he said was the rent due by him to the appellant, and handed over that sum to his companion, who walked away with it, without either giving or offering it or any part thereof to the appellant. On the same day, (30th March,) the Clerk of the Peace issued his order of replevin directed to the Sheriff, Which order was in the terms following: - “ORDER OF REPLEVIN. The Sheriff of the County of Carlow is hereby required without delay, to cause to be replevied to Thomas Clowry, (if he shall give sufficient security,) the Goods and Chattels which Henry Burgess unjustly detains. - Signed the 30th day of March, 1837” - Robert Browne, Deputy Clerk of the Peace for the said County of Carlow. On the 31st of March the Sheriff issued his replevin. The civil bill bare date the 18th of March, and was lodged on that day with the Clerk of the Peace, but it was not served on the appellant until a day subsequent to that on which the replevin issued. The tenancy was admitted by the respondent, and that rent was in arrear at the time of the distress made. [CLOWRY’S CASE] On the hearing of the appeal, the respondent contended that the notice of distress was defective in its form, as not containing the particulars required by the statute 6 & 7 Will. IV. c. 75, s. G, and that such a notice as that required by the said section of the Act, ought to have been served previously to the distress made ; that the notice in question, even if good in form, was served too late; that by such alleged defect in his proceedings, the appellant was rendered a trespasser ab initio, and that no subsequent waiver on the part of the respondent or tenant could cure such alleged defect. [BURGESS’ CASE] On the part of the appellant, it was contended, that as a tenancy under the appellant was admitted by the respondent, which fact, with the amount of the rent appearing due, brought the case within the civil bill jurisdiction, it followed, first, that the service of a notice of distress under the sixth section of the said statute, was not requisite, as a condition precedent to the landlord’s title Ito distrain the goods of his tenant for his rent. Secondly, that the tenant having availed himself of the provisions of the Act by replevying, and bringing his civil bill, was estopped from denying the jurisdiction of the Court to decide on the merits of the case. And thirdly, that even though a notice of distress were requisite as a condition precedent to the landlord’s title to distrain, yet that there was sufficient evidence of such notice in the present case, the tenant having waived any irregularity in the service of the notice, by subsequently obtaining an adjournment of the sale, and having also subsequenttlv made an admission, that the rent in respect of which the distress was made was actually due. [OUTCOME] His Lordship, on hearing the appeal,' said he would reserve the questions arising in the case for the consideration of the judges; but on a subsequent day his Lordship said he would take upon himself to decide upon the case, and thereupon informed the parties interested, that he did not think the objections to the appellant’s proceedings relied on by the respondent could be sustained by him in this case, that the acts of the respondent subsequently to the making of the distress, amounted, in his Lordship’s opinion, to a waiver on his (the respondent’s) part of the alleged irregularities or defects in the said proceedings, and that therefore without deciding upon the questions raised by the respondent upon the alleged irregularities and defects, he was of opinion that the decree ought to be reversed.(a) (a) Vide Dwyer v. Peacock, 2 Fox & Smith, 34. Taken from: ABRIDGED NOTES OF CASES ARGUED AND DETERMINED IN THE SEVERAL COURTS OF LAW AND EQUITY IN IRELAND DURING THE YEARS 1837 AND 1838 WITH SOME DECISIONS AT “NISI PRIUS” AND ON THE CIRCUITS, A TABLE OF CASES, AND INDEX TO THE PRINCIPAL MATTERS. - BY GEORGE CRAWFORD AND EDWARD SPENCER DIX, Esqrs., BARRISTERS AT LAW. VOL. I. “ Arbitramentum Equum tribuit cuique Suum.” - Noy's Maxims. DUBLIN HODGES AND SMITH, COLLEGE-GREEN. M.DCCC.XXX IX. Pages 350 – 353 (ABRIDGED NOTES OF CASES.) [Basic Overview by Trevor Clowry] Thomas Clowry owed Henry Burgess rent. Burgess took animals worth the amount due to him on 13th March from Thomas Clowrys farm. Clowry asked Burgess for a postponement of the sale of the animals so he could get the rent together but eventually did not pay Burgess. Burgess served a notice of distress on Clowry on the 20th March. Clowry argued due to a statute, the notice of distress should have been served before the animals were taken but admitted that the rent was due – and therefore Burgess had been trepassing. Burgess argued that because Clowry had admitted owing the rent and asking for the postponement, that the mistakes that Burgess made when serving the distress notice should be waived. The judge found in favour of Burgess.

    05/19/2013 04:15:17
    1. [IRL-CARLOW] Richard Annesley-Rainsford+Robert Louis Stevenson.
    2. Michael Purcell
    3. [ note added by Michael Purcell 2012. - Estimate for repairs dated 1847 from Richard Annesley Rainsford, Coach Builder of Cox's Lane , Carlow. According to Henrietta Maria Hickey in her letter "Not we from Kings but Kings from us" Richard Annesley-Rainsford was the illegitimate descendant of The Lord Altham, Governor of Wexford. Richard claimed blood relationship to the Earl of Anglesey, the Earl of Rutland, the Countess of Dorchester and Sir Richard Raynsford. " Henrietta wrote "Richard was treated with deference by the gentry of the county, many of whom held doubts regarding the claims made on their own pedigree charts, they believed that Richard, now the Tradesman, emerged badly in the settlement of the Earl's affairs". It was said that Robert Louis Stevenson based his novel "Kidnapped" on the exploits of The Lord Altham. In 1872 his son Richard Rainsford married Susan Woodhouse in St Mary's Church, Castle Street, Carlow. Her father was John Woodhouse, a shoemaker who lived on Dublin Street, now a hair dressers beside O'Loughlin's pub . Susan's sister Mary Ann Woodhouse was married to Sam Hunt, Sam operated a harness making business on the corner of Browne Street / Dublin Street, where Lambert's shop is now situated ]. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To the Board of the Gaol of Carlow. ESTIMATE. Cox's Lane and Dublin Street, Carlow, 1st May 1847. Richard Rainsford, Cox's Lane, Carlow. The Estimate of Sundry Repairs with painting wanting to be done to the Carlow Gaol prisoners van. Repairing the door of the van which is much out of order. Making the hinges of the door quite secure with proper screws. Repairing the door lock up bolt. Repairing the back step of the van with proper bolt, it is nearly off. Repairing the back part of the body with new molding where the molding is gone off, with making all the sheeting perfect. Making the bottom of the van all perfect, the bottom is now loose. Repairing the two sides of the van, which is now really falling to pieces. Repairing the front of van with new molding and making all the sheeting quite secure, the sheeting is all quite loose. Repairing the roof of the van which is in a very bad state and making the roof waterproof. New glazing a window in roof of van with 8 panes of glass. Repairing drivers foot board which is broken. Putting in a new splinter bar of best Ash, the old one is broke and of no use. Repairing the shafts they are greatly out of order. Repairing the fou ? carriage, so as to cause the van to be easy drawn, it is very difficult for a horse to draw it at present. Making large and small wheels correct on the A...?. Painting the van any colour the committee might think proper and giving it two full coats of varnish, which would cause the painting to hold for several years. Painting the van inside with one coat of good paint.--- Total £5 - 8 shillings - and 4 pence. I beg to say that by doing the van as I describe, would cause it to last for several years and when done would be more perfect than first day. ( signed ) Richard Rainsford. Accepted by the Board ( signed ) W. ? Bernard, Chairman.

    05/19/2013 05:40:20