Carlow Sentinel. 10th February 1900. [ Transcribed by Michael Purcell, April 2013, all the following were from Carlow.] Boer War. THE CARLOW ROLL OF HONOUR. The undermentioned officers, most of whom are followers of the Carlow and Island Hounds, are now in active service in South Africa, or are on their way :- Col. Alex Rochfort, R.H.A. Major B. Lecky, R.H.A. Major B. Burton, R.H.A., already mentioned with dispatches with General French. Mr T. Archdale, R.H.A. Captain Robert Browne-Clayton, 5th Lancers, Ladysmith. Captain D.O. Eustace, 5th Dragoon Guards, Ladysmith. Mr John Eustace, South African Light Horse, killed while on patrol. Mr C. R. Eustace, Bethune's Mounted Infantry. Mr R, Rawson, Gloucester Regiment, Ladysmith. Mr Jno Duckett, 9th Lancers, Modder River Honourable William Bunbury, Scots' Greys, Natal. Capt. Fishbourne, 5th Fusiliers, wounded (invalided home to Carlow ). Mr G. Brooke, Connaught Rangers, wounded, Natal. Capt. A. Beresford, R.F.A. (commanding a squadron of the South African Light Horse ). Capt. U. Vigors, Devons, wounded Natal. Mr Percy Vigors, Connaught Rangers. Mr Urban Vigors, 18th Royal Irish. Capt. F. Henley, Oxfordshire Light Infantry. Mr G. Bayley, Oxfordshire Light Infantry. Mr G M'Clintock, 5th Lancers, Natal. Mr J. M'Clintock, 18th Hussars, Natal. Major Sir Anthony A. Weldon, Railway Staff Officer, Pietermaritzburg. Mr Bertram Weldon, 1st Leinsters (wounded ). Mr Walter Alexander, special service. Dr W. Crosthwait, A.M.D. In addition to the foregoing, the following volunteers are about to proceed to the front :- Mr D.J. Ross, C. Bagenal, H. Butler, G. Turner, and Mr Robert O' Callaghan, F.R.C.S., late Surgeon of the County Carlow Infirmary, as Surgeon-in-charge of a field hospital Corps. Mr W. Duckett-Steuart sailed on the 31st January as a volunteer in the Loyal Suffolk Hussars.

feedback from a reader :- Dear Michael, Thank you for the note re "Jack Eustace". He died on the Tugela River, Natal, South Africa leaving behind a wife, but no children. His brother Cecil found Jack's body after it had been rifled by the Boers. However his pocket watch was later recovered and is now in my possession and, still working, best wishes , R&C On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com>wrote: > Carlow Sentinel. > Feb. 1900. > WAR NEWS. > Death of Mr John Eustace, South African Light Horse. > We deeply regret to announce the death of Mr John Spottiswoode Eustace, > second son of James Eustace, Esquire, of Newstown, Carlow. > When war broke out in South Africa , Mr Eustace did not wait his country's > call, but immediately on commencement of hostilities he joined the South > African Light Horse Volunteers, in which splendid corps of irregulars, his > fine horsemanship, soldierly and manly bearing and behaviour was soon > conspicuous, and he was promoted to the rank of Sergeant, no slight honour > where all are so good. > Those of his friends at home who watched the doings of his regiment must > have noticed how frequently he was in action, and on January 19th, he was > killed at his post doing his duty. > How noble a death is this !. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Butter trade in Carlow in the 1820s: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Butter_Trade.htm Regards Michael Brennan County Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: damapacaja@gmail.com Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 5:12 PM To: Mjbrennan@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: Carlow Butter Trade 1820s Michael, you may be interested in these transcripts which I made regarding the Butter trade in Carlow in the 1820s for your website, since they contain some personal names. I attach the original pdf of Return of Officers as well for checking. Hope this is of use to you. Congratulations on a fantastic website. Regards, Tony Lyons

Carlow Sentinel. 10th February 1900. [ Transcribed by Michael Purcell, April 2013, all the following were from Carlow.] Boer War. THE CARLOW ROLL OF HONOUR. The undermentioned officers, most of whom are followers of the Carlow and Island Hounds, are now in active service in South Africa, or are on their way :- Col. Alex Rochfort, R.H.A. Major B. Lecky, R.H.A. Major B. Burton, R.H.A., already mentioned with dispatches with General French. Mr T. Archdale, R.H.A. Captain Robert Browne-Clayton, 5th Lancers, Ladysmith. Captain D.O. Eustace, 5th Dragoon Guards, Ladysmith. Mr John Eustace, South African Light Horse, killed while on patrol. Mr C. R. Eustace, Bethune's Mounted Infantry. Mr R, Rawson, Gloucester Regiment, Ladysmith. Mr Jno Duckett, 9th Lancers, Modder River Honourable William Bunbury, Scots' Greys, Natal. Capt. Fishbourne, 5th Fusiliers, wounded (invalided home to Carlow ). Mr G. Brooke, Connaught Rangers, wounded, Natal. Capt. A. Beresford, R.F.A. (commanding a squadron of the South African Light Horse ). Capt. U. Vigors, Devons, wounded Natal. Mr Percy Vigors, Connaught Rangers. Mr Urban Vigors, 18th Royal Irish. Capt. F. Henley, Oxfordshire Light Infantry. Mr G. Bayley, Oxfordshire Light Infantry. Mr G M'Clintock, 5th Lancers, Natal. Mr J. M'Clintock, 18th Hussars, Natal. Major Sir Anthony A. Weldon, Railway Staff Officer, Pietermaritzburg. Mr Bertram Weldon, 1st Leinsters (wounded ). Mr Walter Alexander, special service. Dr W. Crosthwait, A.M.D. In addition to the foregoing, the following volunteers are about to proceed to the front :- Mr D.J. Ross, C. Bagenal, H. Butler, G. Turner, and Mr Robert O' Callaghan, F.R.C.S., late Surgeon of the County Carlow Infirmary, as Surgeon-in-charge of a field hospital Corps. Mr W. Duckett-Steuart sailed on the 31st January as a volunteer in the Loyal Suffolk Hussars.

Carlow Sentinel. Feb. 1900. WAR NEWS. Death of Mr John Eustace, South African Light Horse. We deeply regret to announce the death of Mr John Spottiswoode Eustace, second son of James Eustace, Esquire, of Newstown, Carlow. When war broke out in South Africa , Mr Eustace did not wait his country's call, but immediately on commencement of hostilities he joined the South African Light Horse Volunteers, in which splendid corps of irregulars, his fine horsemanship, soldierly and manly bearing and behaviour was soon conspicuous, and he was promoted to the rank of Sergeant, no slight honour where all are so good. Those of his friends at home who watched the doings of his regiment must have noticed how frequently he was in action, and on January 19th, he was killed at his post doing his duty. How noble a death is this !.

Carlow Sentinel. 24th February 1900. LATEST WAR NEWS. Friday's Telegrams. Received Carlow, 10.56 a.m. Relief of Kimberly. Message from Lord Roberts. "General French, with horse artillery, cavalry, and mounted infantry, reached Kimberly this evening, Thursday." Received Carlow, 5.45 p.m. Great jubilation in London over General French's brilliant exploit" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The sad news from the seat of war of the death from wounds of Second-Lieut. Hon. W. M'Clintock Bunbury, eldest son of Lord Rathdonnell, was received with profound regret by all classes in Carlow, his native county, on Tuesday last. As a mark of respect to his memory Mr Robert Watson, Master Fox Hounds, who was hunting when the intelligence reached him, drew the pack off, and at once intimated that the Carlow and Island Hounds would not meet this week.

I've now sorted all the new Ellis notes and I'll add these to my web page for The Bowles of Carlow. It does amaze me though how my Bowles line can continue to twist, duck and dodge from discovery. They must have known I would be coming and wanted to make sure it would have a challenge! Here I not only have some newly found descendants, they were actually a family that was notably interested in Carlow's history. But apparently they didn't extend that interest to their own family's history. Not my Bowles line. They knew how to hide. Even Mary Bowles Ellis' obituary in 1943 says "She was a member of an old and respectable Carlow family." If we were so "old and respectable" you would think the writer could have thrown in the name Bowles! This is quite a discovery though. She was the last Bowles in Carlow. We arrived there in 1719-20 and now have 1943 as our end date. There's still a lot to learn about their life in between though. Thanks again for adding these pieces of the puzzle. They're getting harder and harder to find. Tom > Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 13:00:00 +0100 > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Ellis / Boles. > > Willie Ellis died 22nd July 2007. > > On 24 May 2013 12:37, Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> wrote: > > > WILLIE ELLIS. > > [ note added by Michael Purcell -- Willie Ellis was grandson of Mary > > Boles. > > All Willie's uncles and brothers were interested in our history, over the > > years many of their articles were published in the Nationalist and > > Carloviana.

Willie Ellis died 22nd July 2007. On 24 May 2013 12:37, Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com> wrote: > WILLIE ELLIS. > [ note added by Michael Purcell -- Willie Ellis was grandson of Mary > Boles. > All Willie's uncles and brothers were interested in our history, over the > years many of their articles were published in the Nationalist and > Carloviana. > A ten page article " Memories and Musings" by 90 year-old Frank Ellis was > published in the 2006 edition of Carloviana. > Frank had published the article in booklet form, he gave me a copy > shortly before he died in 2001. ] > Carloviana 2007. > Willie Ellis tribute by Martin Nevin. > Willie Ellis grew up with the Old Carlow Society, now the Carlow > Historical and Archaeological Society. His father, John was a founder > member way back in 1946. His brothers John, Brendan and uncle Frank all > contributed to the welfare of the Society over the years. > Willie was a member for almost 40 years and from his earliest association > was regarded as one of the stalwarts of the Society. > In that time the hidden treasures of his beloved county became well known > to him and we all enjoyed the many evenings when he delighted us with > illustrated talks on his latest findings and the many changes which had > overtaken us almost by stealth through the years in our towns, villages and > countryside. > In a quite and unassuming way , Willie continued the tireless labours of > Donal Godfrey in the work of research and preservation through the medium > of coloured slides. To him must be credited the greatest collection of > photographs and slides of unusual features, early stone structures, > buildings, holy wells, changes to the neighbourhood, streetscapes, etc. of > Carlow county. > Most of his Sundays were spent in pursuit of such items to compile a > centre piece for "Carloviana" under the heading County Carlow Miscellany > which was a much hailed feature by our readers for almost a quarter of a > century. > But this was not his only contribution to our journal. He left his > distinctive stamp on the layout of not less than twenty editions. The cover > pictures and design were typical examples of his work and they speak for > themselves. He wanted Carloviana to be a credit to the Society and Carlow. > In addition, he was always at hand to provide from his vast library, a > photograph to further illustrate and enhance a particular article. He had a > keen eye for an historical anniversary and could be counted on to lend his > pen to same. To his credit, recently deceased members were always recorded. > Willie was knowledgeable about County Carlow and was much sought after by > students of history. His names completes the bibliography of many a thesis > with a Carlow theme. > Visitors to our county with a special quest always found themselves in the > company of Willie, who without fail, would professionally guide them in > their search. > Likewise, personal from museums, universities and the Office of Public > Works were well acquainted with his knowledge of the local scene and would > call on his expertise when needed. > Willie was well known and respected throughout the county by all > interested in the heritage and history of Carlow. Through his many contacts > he travelled the narrow, winding roads to awkward places in this county, > often times in a 4 x 4 of a fellow enthusiast, to look at and record a > piece of rock with unusual markings, a Mass rock, standing stone or to > capture something historical that was about to be removed from the > landscape. > He was a man of integrity and principle who brought the highest standards > to all aspects of his work. > For some years before he passed to his eternal reward he had been working > diligently on a book " A Pictorial Aspect of County Carlow" with a view to > having it published. This may yet come to fruition. > In his Will he donated his collection of photographs and slides to the > care of Carlow County Library and some of his library of books to St > Patrick's College. > Though never a committee member ( he preferred always to work in the > background ) he was made an Honorary Member in 2002 in recognition of his > contribution to the Society. > It must be recorded that many aspects of our heritage and history would > have gone unrecorded but for tireless efforts of Willie Ellis. Always on > the lookout for unusual findings, I'm sure Heaven will be no exception. > > > > >

WILLIE ELLIS. [ note added by Michael Purcell -- Willie Ellis was grandson of Mary Boles. All Willie's uncles and brothers were interested in our history, over the years many of their articles were published in the Nationalist and Carloviana. A ten page article " Memories and Musings" by 90 year-old Frank Ellis was published in the 2006 edition of Carloviana. Frank had published the article in booklet form, he gave me a copy shortly before he died in 2001. ] Carloviana 2007. Willie Ellis tribute by Martin Nevin. Willie Ellis grew up with the Old Carlow Society, now the Carlow Historical and Archaeological Society. His father, John was a founder member way back in 1946. His brothers John, Brendan and uncle Frank all contributed to the welfare of the Society over the years. Willie was a member for almost 40 years and from his earliest association was regarded as one of the stalwarts of the Society. In that time the hidden treasures of his beloved county became well known to him and we all enjoyed the many evenings when he delighted us with illustrated talks on his latest findings and the many changes which had overtaken us almost by stealth through the years in our towns, villages and countryside. In a quite and unassuming way , Willie continued the tireless labours of Donal Godfrey in the work of research and preservation through the medium of coloured slides. To him must be credited the greatest collection of photographs and slides of unusual features, early stone structures, buildings, holy wells, changes to the neighbourhood, streetscapes, etc. of Carlow county. Most of his Sundays were spent in pursuit of such items to compile a centre piece for "Carloviana" under the heading County Carlow Miscellany which was a much hailed feature by our readers for almost a quarter of a century. But this was not his only contribution to our journal. He left his distinctive stamp on the layout of not less than twenty editions. The cover pictures and design were typical examples of his work and they speak for themselves. He wanted Carloviana to be a credit to the Society and Carlow. In addition, he was always at hand to provide from his vast library, a photograph to further illustrate and enhance a particular article. He had a keen eye for an historical anniversary and could be counted on to lend his pen to same. To his credit, recently deceased members were always recorded. Willie was knowledgeable about County Carlow and was much sought after by students of history. His names completes the bibliography of many a thesis with a Carlow theme. Visitors to our county with a special quest always found themselves in the company of Willie, who without fail, would professionally guide them in their search. Likewise, personal from museums, universities and the Office of Public Works were well acquainted with his knowledge of the local scene and would call on his expertise when needed. Willie was well known and respected throughout the county by all interested in the heritage and history of Carlow. Through his many contacts he travelled the narrow, winding roads to awkward places in this county, often times in a 4 x 4 of a fellow enthusiast, to look at and record a piece of rock with unusual markings, a Mass rock, standing stone or to capture something historical that was about to be removed from the landscape. He was a man of integrity and principle who brought the highest standards to all aspects of his work. For some years before he passed to his eternal reward he had been working diligently on a book " A Pictorial Aspect of County Carlow" with a view to having it published. This may yet come to fruition. In his Will he donated his collection of photographs and slides to the care of Carlow County Library and some of his library of books to St Patrick's College. Though never a committee member ( he preferred always to work in the background ) he was made an Honorary Member in 2002 in recognition of his contribution to the Society. It must be recorded that many aspects of our heritage and history would have gone unrecorded but for tireless efforts of Willie Ellis. Always on the lookout for unusual findings, I'm sure Heaven will be no exception.

What an informative and historically interesting article. I liked the story about Tottie Foley. Tanya -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tom LaPorte Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 12:17 AM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry+Bowels Michael B has a good article on the Old Graves on our site athttp://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Old_Graves_A.htm Tom > From: nolanme@verizon.net > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 19:07:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry+Bowels > > Where is the location of the Carlow Old Graves Cemetery? > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

at the time of his death in 2001 Frank was 91 yeas old... CARLOW PEOPLE 01 December 2000 Carlow man, Frank Ellis celebrated his 90th birthday in style last weekend at the Seven Oaks hotel with a feast fit for a king. Carlow man, Frank Ellis celebrated his 90th birthday in style last weekend at the Seven Oaks hotel with a feast fit for a king, buckets of champagne and a party he'll never forget! Frank, formerly of Charlotte Street and currently living at St. Brigid's nursing home had the time of his life last Saturday night when he was joined by his family and close friends to celebrate him being 90 years young. The party was organised by Frank's nieces Sr. Elizabeth Maxwell from Dublin, Rosemary Brehon from Limerick who along with the rest of his nieces and nephews - Elizabeth Grimes, Howth, Anne McNally, Lanesborough, Anne Lightford, Dublin, Billy Ellis, Graiguecullen, Mary Fitzpatrick, Riverside Drive, Carlow, Tom and Jackie Maxwell, Lanesborough and family friends Michael and Kathleen O'Reilly joined in the festivities with great gusto. 16 friends and family in total, sat down to a sumptuous meal in the hotel with many of them claiming to have had the best night of their lives, says Frank. Regarding the secret to his longevity and good health, Frank says he's not exactly sure. 'I don't really know what it is but I had a hard start in life and for many years I went around on a bicycle in all weather selling insurance and I think that built up my stamina. I've no aches and pains and I feel great - I'm here forever' he quipped cheerfully. On 24 May 2013 05:42, Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mymts.net> wrote: > Thanks everyone for the Ellis info. > Mick, was the Frank Ellis who died in 2001 about 91 years old? > 'My' Francis Ellis was bp. Nov. 27, 1910 in Carlow, the youngest of the > family. I don't follow the female lines in my tree past their first > generation as mine is a single surname study of Bowles but Frank's mother > would have been Mary Bowles so to me he would qualify as one of 'my' > Bowles. If so that makes history for me. After 9 years of research, he > would be the very first descendant of my Bowles line that I have traced to > a living personal memory! Now I just need to find one still living! > And J.J. you mention that William Ellis moved from Dublin to Carlow to > work as a compositor. That would have been in the 1890's? You're > referring to the William Ellis who married Mary Bowles in Carlow in 1895? > Also, you knew their sons John, Dick and Joseph? > This is really record setting. For me my Bowles have always been back in > the 1700's and 1800's. This is the very first time I've ever had first > person memories of anyone in my line! > Tom > > > Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 17:34:47 +0100 > > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry+Bowels > > > > Before he joined the Insurance Company, Frank Ellis was the general > manager > > of the Dublin based "Bookie Offices" for Frank Slater. > > Following the death of his wife Frank retired to St Bridget's Hospital in > > Carlow, he gave me a copy of his booklet " Memories of Frank Ellis" > > shortly before he died in 2001. > > > > On 23 May 2013 16:52, Jj Woods <woodsjj@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Slight correction: Frank was the man involved with the insurance and > Joe, I > > > think, was a carpenter/builder. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 23 May 2013 16:37, Jj Woods <woodsjj@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I don't know if there are any members of that Ellis family still > living > > > in > > > > Carlow. I know there was an Ellis family living in JKL Avenue but I > don't > > > > think they are related. I could be wrong. > > > > > > > > A number of your Ellis family were involved in the printing trade. I > > > > believe William may have moved to Carlow from Dublin to work as a > > > > compositor (now commonly called a typesetter) in the Nationalist and > > > > Leinster Times. His son, John, was the Works Manager in 'The > Nationalist' > > > > for very many years. He was an absolute gentleman. Another son, > Richard > > > > (Dick) also worked in 'The Nationalist' and Joseph was involved in > the > > > > Insurance business. Dick was a bit of a poet as well and also a > lovely > > > man. > > > > > > > > John (or Johnny as he was known) had sons also involved in the > printing > > > > business. The eldest, Johnny Jnr., was a journalist, starting in the > > > > Nationalist and ending up in the newsroom of RTE. I think he has > family > > > and > > > > they are probably in the Dublin area. William (or Billy as he was > known) > > > > was also a compositor and for many years was in charge of the > newspaper > > > > make-up. He was unmarried. A third son, Brendan, was also a > compositor > > > and > > > > in the late '60s he moved to Naas to work in the Leinster Leader. He > died > > > > unexpectedly in 1993. He had three sons. > > > > > > > > I think a daughter of the original William was married to a man by > the > > > > name of Harvey and their son, Harry, also worked in the Nationalist > as a > > > > compositor. I believe the family lived in Charlotte Street near the > > > > junction with Brown Street. I think Harry had siblings but I do no > know > > > for > > > > certain. Sometime in the '60s Harry's wife inherited a hotel in > Gardiner > > > > Street, Dublin and Harry and family moved up there to manage the > > > business. > > > > I believe they then sold that and moved to somewhere close to the > > > > Kilkenny/Carlow border to run a guesthouse. I think he had two > children. > > > > > > > > I hope this adds something you your knowledge. > > > > J. J. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the information on this and will send Michael an email. A Carlow fence is something that I may try out in my own garden in the future. Trevor -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Purcell Sent: 22 May 2013 06:52 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Masons / Bricklayers Carlow. Trevor, if you're interested in Carlow based masons / bricklayers etc. try your library for the following books by Dr Michael Conry - I believe Michael is compiling data on stoneworkers in Carlow and beyond, if you need to contact Michael he is at :- conrymj@gmail.com He may have some copies for sale. Carlow Granite: Years of History Written in Stone<http://conry-michael-books.com/5_carlow_granite_years_of_history_w ritten_in_stone.html> [image: Carlow Granite: Years of History Written in Stone]<http://conry-michael-books.com/5_carlow_granite_years_of_history_ written_in_stone.html> Author : Michael J. Conry Description : With almost 70% of the country underlain by granite bedrock, it is not surprising that granite has made a huge contribution to the geology, landscape and agriculture of Co. Carlow. It has shaped the very lives of the people who inhabited the country... The Carlow Fence <http://conry-michael-books.com/2_the_carlow_fence.html> [image: The Carlow Fence]<http://conry-michael-books.com/2_the_carlow_fence.html> Author : Michael J. Conry Description : This simple Quaker-style granite fence is a unique feature of the Carlow landscape - found nowhere else in the World. It was erected mainly as a decorative fence around gardens and between fields. It addition to describing the method of cleaving... <http://conry-michael-books.com/6_picking_bilberries_fraochans_and_whort s_in_ireland.html> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3162/6344 - Release Date: 05/21/13

Thanks Mick. I would imagine that's probably Clooney. I did come across a Cluwey in the census of 1901 which in fact was a Clowry so anything is possible. See here: http://url.ie/hhfg It is probably likely that the person writing the census return had a guess at how to spell Clowry. Thanks, Trevor -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Purcell Sent: 23 May 2013 19:29 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry, Clonegal. James Clowney, Baptised 29th July 1838, the date does not correspond with the Clowry entries, I suggest he should be James Clooney ?. On 21 May 2013 02:34, Trevor Clowry <trevor.clowry@roomthree.com> wrote: > Thanks again Mick for these transcriptions. > Here is a photo of Edward Clowry born 1855 - http://url.ie/hg24 > Do you have any idea when James Clowney may have been born? > I added some noted below. > > Thanks, > Trevor > > > CLOWRY. > Mary, 29/08/1852, father Edward, mmn, Mary Waddock, Ballinvalley. > Edward, 01/07/1855, father, Thomas, mmn, Margaret ? - Cranemore. > (Surname is Waddock. The family moved to Canada in the late 1800s) > > Ellen, 20/02/1859, father, Thomas, mmn, Isabella [ ? ] , Ballinvalley. > (surname is Kelly) > > CLOWNEY. > James Clowney ?, father, Thomas, mmn, Margaret Kehoe, Barragh. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3162/6332 - Release Date: > 05/17/13 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3184/6351 - Release Date: 05/23/13

Mick These have solved a few issues I had regarding Michael Clowry. I believe based on the Griffith Valuations Maps that a Michael Clowry and John Clowry both lived in Rathnapish, Carlow. By overlaying the Griffith Maps over modern maps, it is clear to see that it is in fact Green Lane(as mentioned in the posts you provided) and that both John and Michael lived in two houses beside each other and this would potentially indicate that they were someway related. See these images: http://imgur.com/qnYVCx5 (shows aerial view) http://i.imgur.com/I7ERrpJ.jpg (shows closer image) http://i.imgur.com/e36Qucc.jpg (shows plots indicating that they live on the site of the current Topaz petrol station on Green Lane) I would speculate that the death notice for Catherine is possible a wife of John Clowry (possibly this guy http://url.ie/hhff ) but I will have to look into this further. There was a marriage of John Clowry and Catherine Rourke in 1838 from the baptismal information you sent me. I have added some notes below. [Michael Clowry died 22nd April 1877,aged 70, a mason, from Green Lane, he was attended to by Father A. Phelan] - I was never sure which death certificates was Michael but from the date you gave me it is clearly this on http://url.ie/hhf6 He died in the Carlow Workhouse and I was never sure which Michael this certificate was related to as he died in the Carlow Workhouse. I presume the are file related to the Carlow workhouse somewhere. [Anne Clowry, died 25th October 1882, aged 70, a bricklayers wife, Green Lane, attended by Father J. Cullen.] A newspaper obituary about Anne Clowry's death in 1882. http://url.ie/hhf3 "October 24, 1882 at her residence Green Lane, carlow, to the inexpressible grief of her family and friends, Mrs Anne Clowry, widow of the late Michael Clowry. Funeral with leave today Friday[October 27?] for Rathoe, county Carlow." [John P. Clowry, died 4th May 1904, aged 50, shopkeeper, Tullow Street, attended by Father Lynam[ - was belonging to a different family branch. Here is his death certificate: http://url.ie/hhf8 [Catherine Clowry, died 22nd April 1889, aged 71, a Labourers wife from Green Lane attended by Father John Murray.] - I am unsure who this is but it is likely to be a lady who married a Clowry. Here is her death certificate: http://url.ie/hhfa It reads [Age 77 / Widow/ Farmer's Widow] Lucy Leonard present at death. - Possibly related to John Clowry mentioned above. Anyway any to ponder about! Any thoughts? Trevor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3184/6351 - Release Date: 05/23/13

Mick, I cannot express my gratitude for all the transcriptions and work put in to retrieving these from the library. Trevor -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Purcell Sent: 23 May 2013 16:47 To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry round-up. There were no entries recorded in the indexes for surname Clowry in the following Carlow R.C. Parishes, but bear in mind that the Indexes were compiled under a Youth Employment Scheme, some register entries may have been omitted or transcribed incorrectly as the scheme was inadequately supervised. If I have missed a parish please let me know. No Clowry recorded in :- Tullow -- Hacketstown -- St Mullins -- Clonmore -- Rathvilly. Clowry surname was recorded in :- Ballon -- Graiguecullen -- Carlow Cathedral -- Tinryland -- Bagenalstown -- Clonegal -- Myshall -- Borris -- Leighlin. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3184/6351 - Release Date: 05/23/13

Thanks everyone for the Ellis info. Mick, was the Frank Ellis who died in 2001 about 91 years old? 'My' Francis Ellis was bp. Nov. 27, 1910 in Carlow, the youngest of the family. I don't follow the female lines in my tree past their first generation as mine is a single surname study of Bowles but Frank's mother would have been Mary Bowles so to me he would qualify as one of 'my' Bowles. If so that makes history for me. After 9 years of research, he would be the very first descendant of my Bowles line that I have traced to a living personal memory! Now I just need to find one still living! And J.J. you mention that William Ellis moved from Dublin to Carlow to work as a compositor. That would have been in the 1890's? You're referring to the William Ellis who married Mary Bowles in Carlow in 1895? Also, you knew their sons John, Dick and Joseph? This is really record setting. For me my Bowles have always been back in the 1700's and 1800's. This is the very first time I've ever had first person memories of anyone in my line! Tom > Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 17:34:47 +0100 > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry+Bowels > > Before he joined the Insurance Company, Frank Ellis was the general manager > of the Dublin based "Bookie Offices" for Frank Slater. > Following the death of his wife Frank retired to St Bridget's Hospital in > Carlow, he gave me a copy of his booklet " Memories of Frank Ellis" > shortly before he died in 2001. > > On 23 May 2013 16:52, Jj Woods <woodsjj@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Slight correction: Frank was the man involved with the insurance and Joe, I > > think, was a carpenter/builder. > > > > > > > > On 23 May 2013 16:37, Jj Woods <woodsjj@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I don't know if there are any members of that Ellis family still living > > in > > > Carlow. I know there was an Ellis family living in JKL Avenue but I don't > > > think they are related. I could be wrong. > > > > > > A number of your Ellis family were involved in the printing trade. I > > > believe William may have moved to Carlow from Dublin to work as a > > > compositor (now commonly called a typesetter) in the Nationalist and > > > Leinster Times. His son, John, was the Works Manager in 'The Nationalist' > > > for very many years. He was an absolute gentleman. Another son, Richard > > > (Dick) also worked in 'The Nationalist' and Joseph was involved in the > > > Insurance business. Dick was a bit of a poet as well and also a lovely > > man. > > > > > > John (or Johnny as he was known) had sons also involved in the printing > > > business. The eldest, Johnny Jnr., was a journalist, starting in the > > > Nationalist and ending up in the newsroom of RTE. I think he has family > > and > > > they are probably in the Dublin area. William (or Billy as he was known) > > > was also a compositor and for many years was in charge of the newspaper > > > make-up. He was unmarried. A third son, Brendan, was also a compositor > > and > > > in the late '60s he moved to Naas to work in the Leinster Leader. He died > > > unexpectedly in 1993. He had three sons. > > > > > > I think a daughter of the original William was married to a man by the > > > name of Harvey and their son, Harry, also worked in the Nationalist as a > > > compositor. I believe the family lived in Charlotte Street near the > > > junction with Brown Street. I think Harry had siblings but I do no know > > for > > > certain. Sometime in the '60s Harry's wife inherited a hotel in Gardiner > > > Street, Dublin and Harry and family moved up there to manage the > > business. > > > I believe they then sold that and moved to somewhere close to the > > > Kilkenny/Carlow border to run a guesthouse. I think he had two children. > > > > > > I hope this adds something you your knowledge. > > > J. J.

Michael B has a good article on the Old Graves on our site athttp://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Old_Graves_A.htm Tom > From: nolanme@verizon.net > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 19:07:30 -0400 > Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry+Bowels > > Where is the location of the Carlow Old Graves Cemetery? >

James Clowney, Baptised 29th July 1838, the date does not correspond with the Clowry entries, I suggest he should be James Clooney ?. On 21 May 2013 02:34, Trevor Clowry <trevor.clowry@roomthree.com> wrote: > Thanks again Mick for these transcriptions. > Here is a photo of Edward Clowry born 1855 - http://url.ie/hg24 > Do you have any idea when James Clowney may have been born? > I added some noted below. > > Thanks, > Trevor > > > CLOWRY. > Mary, 29/08/1852, father Edward, mmn, Mary Waddock, Ballinvalley. > Edward, 01/07/1855, father, Thomas, mmn, Margaret ? - Cranemore. > (Surname is Waddock. The family moved to Canada in the late 1800s) > > Ellen, 20/02/1859, father, Thomas, mmn, Isabella [ ? ] , Ballinvalley. > (surname is Kelly) > > CLOWNEY. > James Clowney ?, father, Thomas, mmn, Margaret Kehoe, Barragh. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3162/6332 - Release Date: > 05/17/13 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Where is the location of the Carlow Old Graves Cemetery? -----Original Message----- From: irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-carlow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jj Woods Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:38 AM To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry+Bowels I don't know if there are any members of that Ellis family still living in Carlow. I know there was an Ellis family living in JKL Avenue but I don't think they are related. I could be wrong. A number of your Ellis family were involved in the printing trade. I believe William may have moved to Carlow from Dublin to work as a compositor (now commonly called a typesetter) in the Nationalist and Leinster Times. His son, John, was the Works Manager in 'The Nationalist' for very many years. He was an absolute gentleman. Another son, Richard (Dick) also worked in 'The Nationalist' and Joseph was involved in the Insurance business. Dick was a bit of a poet as well and also a lovely man. John (or Johnny as he was known) had sons also involved in the printing business. The eldest, Johnny Jnr., was a journalist, starting in the Nationalist and ending up in the newsroom of RTE. I think he has family and they are probably in the Dublin area. William (or Billy as he was known) was also a compositor and for many years was in charge of the newspaper make-up. He was unmarried. A third son, Brendan, was also a compositor and in the late '60s he moved to Naas to work in the Leinster Leader. He died unexpectedly in 1993. He had three sons. I think a daughter of the original William was married to a man by the name of Harvey and their son, Harry, also worked in the Nationalist as a compositor. I believe the family lived in Charlotte Street near the junction with Brown Street. I think Harry had siblings but I do no know for certain. Sometime in the '60s Harry's wife inherited a hotel in Gardiner Street, Dublin and Harry and family moved up there to manage the business. I believe they then sold that and moved to somewhere close to the Kilkenny/Carlow border to run a guesthouse. I think he had two children. I hope this adds something you your knowledge. J. J. On 23 May 2013 12:51, Tom LaPorte <tlaporte@mymts.net> wrote: > Thanks Mick > That family is buried in the Carlow Old Graves Cemetery. > > When Mary Donnelly Bowles died in 1906 in her daughter's house on > Charlotte Street, that was the last Bowles of my line in Carlow. Her > daughter Mary had married William Ellis in 1895 and they had 9 > children:2.3.1 John Ellis bp. May 24, 1896 Carlow (Carlow Cathedral > register vol. 8 p. 48)2.3.2 Mary Ellis bp. May 30, 1897 Carlow > (Carlow Cathedral register vol. 8 p. 56)2.3.3 William Ellis bp. Jan. > 21, 1900 Carlow (Carlow Cathedral register vol. 8 p. 75)2.3.4 Harriet Ellis bp. > Aug. 25, 1901 Carlow (Carlow Cathedral register vol. 8 p. 86)2.3.5 > Richard Ellis bp. Apr. 5, 1903 Carlow (Carlow Cathedral register vol. > 9 p. 7)2.3.6 Gertrude Ellis bp. July 25, 1905 Carlow (Carlow > Cathedral register vol. 9 p. 26)2.3.7 Mary Ellis bp. Nov. 25, 1906 > Carlow (Carlow Cathedral register vol. 9 p. 37)2.3.8 Joseph Ellis bp. > Jan. 10, 1909 Carlow (Carlow Cathedral register vol. 9 p. 52)2.3.9 > Francis Ellis bp. Nov. 27, 1910 Carlow (Carlow Cathedral register vol. > 9 p. 66) So there might be descendants of my Bowles named Ellis in > Carlow but I've never had a chance to follow that up yet. They had > lots of daughters too so I could be related to lots of families there still. > Tom > > Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 08:41:39 +0100 > > From: carlowmike@gmail.com > > To: irl-carlow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [IRL-CARLOW] Clowry+Bowels > > > > Transcribed by Pat Purcell in 1957 from Death Register in Carlow > Cathedral. > > Michael Clowry died 22nd April 1877,aged 70, a mason, from Green > > Lane, > he > > was attended to by Father A. Phelan. > > Anne Clowry, died 25th October 1882, aged 70, a bricklayers wife, > > Green Lane, attended by Father J. Cullen. > > Catherine Clowry, died 22nd April 1889, aged 71, a Labourers wife > > from Green Lane attended by Father John Murray. > > John P. Clowry, died 4th May 1904, aged 50, shopkeeper, Tullow > > Street, attended by Father Lynam. > > Harriet Bowels, died Oct. 11th 1886, aged 22, a shoemakers daughter > > from Dublin Road, father Richard Bowels, mother, Mary Donnelly, > > attended by Father Joseph Mooney. > > Mrs Bowels, died 16th Nov. 1906, aged 67, Charlotte Street, attended > > by Father Killian. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Apologies to IGP readers, I did not realise Jean had posted to the IGP List. I thought the email exchanges were just between Jean and myself. ( same thing happened last year !, sorry again) , mick On 22 May 2013 08:39, jean casey <kildaregenealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > Fantastic Mike big thanks to you. What is the lecture in Trinity about ? I > will be in National Archives this morning maybe we could meet, Jean > > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Michael Purcell <carlowmike@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Jean, we have good tickets and your in the pot, we have also negotiated a > > good deal with the Gibson Hotel,............. > > Leonard and co are staying in their usual place but the Gibson is > > a plastic-cup throw from the 02 entrance. > > He will be performing at least three concerts and possibly a 4th added > on > > Sunday night. > > > > On 17 May 2013 19:57, jean casey <kildaregenealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Mike, have you received ticket allocations for Leonard Cohen > September > > > concerts in the 02, if you have remember to hold two good ones for me > > > again, thanks, Jean > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-CARLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >